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7. Have fun!

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know what's going on. The news media isn't very much help in getting the
specifics out, and you can listen to the incidents as they unfold.

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I am a new member, joined it hoping that current Frequencies for S.B. and
Ventura Cities and Counties wpold be kept currant on this site, obviously wrong.
The Moderator kindly sent me a list of do's and dont'samong them was that we
should have them on a piece of paper? Why not in our scanners?
My question to the Moderator is where do we find the currant ones??
I doubt if this gets posted!

New member,
Don

DONALD wrote:
> I am a new member, joined it hoping that current Frequencies for S.B. and
Ventura Cities and Counties wpold be kept currant on this site, obviously wrong.
The Moderator kindly sent me a list of do's and dont'samong them was that we
should have them on a piece of paper? Why not in our scanners?
> My question to the Moderator is where do we find the currant ones??
> I doubt if this gets posted!
>
> New member,
> Don
>
Check the files section for this list, there are some good resources
there. Also, try http://www.radioreference.com .. another good source.
If you still have questions after checking those, there are some very
knowledgeable people here on the list that can help.

Good luck!

Mike

--
miked911@...
Mike Derryberry

Dispatcher II
Kern County Sheriff's Department
Bakersfield, CA

Listen to my department:
http://216.66.69.100:3074/listen.pls

Listen to Kern County Scanning:
http://216.66.69.100:3070/listen.pls

Listen to Central California Fire Scanning
http://216.66.69.100:3072/listen.pls

Local CAL FIRE aircraft flying on Saturday in Southern California.
Looking at my aircraft alert email logs for Saturday.

N409DF (hexcode: A4CE61)- AATK330 @ 3:57pm - Altitude: 1900-2400
<http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?regsearch=N409DF>

N429DF (hexcode: A51D5F)- AA310 @ 1:29pm - Altitude 5200-5600
<http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?regsearch=N429DF>

N437DF (hexcode: A53D70)- Tanker 73 @ 1:35pm - Altitude: 4700-3900
<http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?regsearch=N437DF>

N435DF (hexcode: A53602)- Tanker 72 @ 2:03pm - Altitude: 14525
<http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?regsearch=N435DF>

-Brian
San Diego County

Thanks for joining SoCalFire! Here's a few rules to make everything run a
little smoother.

1. No whining.

I thought that I'd put this at the top of the list to remind all the newbies
and the oldbies that this list is not here for whining about other people and
their posts. If you have a problem with someone else on the list, send them a
message directly, or send a message to socalfire-owner@yahoogroups.com and
we'll take care of it.

2. Keep it on topic.

If the message has no fire-related content, keep it off the list. If you're
selling something, use the sale lists (there's at least a dozen fire/LMR
radio/ham radio sale lists on Y!G; use them.

There will be no posting of weather forecasts or discussions from any
organizations other than the National Weather Service or any other .gov
agency; Accuweather; The Weather Channel; or Intellicast. The only
exemption from this restriction is information from AMS or NWA certified
meteorologists or organizations.

3. No one-liners.

This goes for the "play-by-play" posters, and the one-line-question posters.
This is not a "play-by-play" list, that's SoCalFireNews. Please combine the
information that you've gathered into a larger post. If you're posting sooner
than every 15-30 minutes about a fire, you're posting too much.

Conversely, don't ask the endless stream of "what's the frequency" or "what
equipment" for fires. There's a usual set of frequencies used by the different
agencies, and you should have them programmed into your scanner, or on a sheet
close to it. The only exception to this rule is some of the air-air "Victor"
frequencies, which should be posted as soon as possible by whoever is covering
the fire. The rundown of equipment is done on the initial dispatch, which
someone should be writing down before posting to the list.

4. Trim your replies/Watch the subject line.

This is mainly for those people that recieve this list in digest form. At the
bottom of every message sent out by Y!G, there's an ad. GET RID OF IT!!!!! We
don't like to see them in the first place, why would we want to see them over
and over in replies?

When you're replying to someone, trim their quoted material, or clean it up as
to make what you're replying to more noticable. The digest readers don't need
to see 157 lines of quoting (including ads) for just a one line reply to a
message.

Digest readers: when you reply to a message in the digest, quote only what
you're replying to, and not the 2000+ lines of the digest. Make sure that you
change the subject of the message from "Digest ####" to the subject of the
section you're replying to. It helps keep everything on-thread.

When there's multiple incidents going on in a unit or county, make sure that the
thread has the right incident name listed. When there's several threads running
with the subject "New Start - RRU" it makes it rather tough to figure out which
incident is which. "New Start - RRU - Jurupa IC" is fine, and drop the "New
Start" after the first couple of posts or hours.

5. Moderation

New members are automatically placed on moderation. This is mainly to stop the
spam that has become pervasive on the system. It's also so that we (the
moderators) know that you're okay, and not some kind of wierdo. You'll come off
moderation when we feel that it's okay to turn you loose to the list.

Old members may go back on moderation if they break the rules. Mainly this is
for breaking Rule #1 (no whining), for flaming another list member, or posting
something completely off-topic. If you've been placed on moderation, you'll be
taken off when the moderators think you can be trusted again.

6. Check the archives

If you've missed a post, or need information about a fire, check the archives,
which are available to all members. Whatever goes out to the list is archived,
so you should be able to do a little research to get the info you need before
asking the list.

7. Have fun!

This list is for getting the information about fires in SoCal out, so we all
know what's going on. The news media isn't very much help in getting the
specifics out, and you can listen to the incidents as they unfold.

If you have any questions, complaints, or suggestions, email them to socalfire-
owner@yahoogroups.com and we will try to get to them as soon as possible.

Smokey Behr, List Owner

Little birdie told me where to look :)

Found it on this page.
1100am - Tanker 910 and C-130 Fire Attack Air Water Drops
<http://www.marchfieldairfest.com/general-information/schedule/>


Some photos on this forum topic!  But it was TANKER 911 not 910 ;)
United States - California - Thunder Over The Empire 2010 - March ARB, Riverside
- 05/01/10
<http://www.fencecheck.com/forums/index.php/topic,19940.0.html>



__________________________________________________
From: John Gleichweit PDA
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 10:37 AM
To: Socalfire
Subject: Re: [SoCalFire] SoCal Local CAL FIRE aircraft flying on Saturday.

That aircraft also runs regular cargo when it's not fire season, but its main
mission is MAFFS.
John Gleichweit


________________________________________
From: Mark Bonney
Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 07:45:31 -0700
To: SoCalFire
Subject: Re: [SoCalFire] SoCal Local CAL FIRE aircraft flying on Saturday.

I logged a this guy on my radarbox yesterday as well:
 
AE1162 MAFFS4 02-1464 C30J USA - Air Force 2010/05/01 10:47:03
 
Must be an air ops convention......

March air show is this weekend. CALFIRE is not involved. Ramona and Hemet fixed
wing are back on duty. First couple of days are spent with proficiency flying .

Just fate that CALFIRE and March aircraft are flying the same days.

Does the C-5M Super Galaxy plan to be thereĀæ

Are they going to be used for fires this year

Confirmed fire in the BDF off Snow Creek & Hwy 111,  units trying to gain
access.  BDF Forest Net  171.475  Pacific Incident

Hello fellow online scanning enthusiasts,

For the last two years, the Butte County Public Safety Scanner has offered to
share its enormous bandwidth with anyone in California who may be near a major
wildfire event but does not run a full-time feed or has limited resources
available to them free of charge. We have relayed feeds for several major
wildfire incidents in the past and it has worked out very well. Last year the
Butte County Public Safety Scanner website was acquired by the Butte County Fire
Safe Council and the governing board has decided that this year will be no
different and we would just like to remind the online scanning community that
our offer still stands and we're ready to share our resources when needed.

Benefits:
Support for Windows Media and ShoutCast MP3 streams (Possibly more if needed)
Bandwdith for 10,000+ simultaneous listeners (we've reached over 4,000
simultaneous listeners in the past with no sign of trouble)
Technical support to get your feed up and running
Blog space with comment support for you to post play-by-play information or
daily summaries of activity should you choose to do so and allow your community
to interact with you
Your own chat room dedicated to the incident for real-time information
(Moderated by volunteers of your choosing or our veteran moderators can help)

While it is our hope that California will not have any major incidents this
year, we stand ready to help in any way that we can. To get in touch with us,
just visit http://www.thenet411.net and use our contact form to let us know if
our free resources can benefit your community.

Sincerely,
Butte County Fire Safe Council
767 Birch Street
Paradise, CA 95969

I have been watching this pesky fire from my roof about 2-3 miles away.
A moment ago there were 3 planes making drops as the fire is moving down
the north side of these hills toward Fontana.  To the east the fire is
in a rugged box canyon  where a copter is making drops. It may get blown
up the west side of that small mountain. This is not a big fire, but the
territory is rugged and the hills are steep. It is located in the Jurupa
hills north of the 60 up from the ends of Pedley Road and Pyrite Road.

Dan Shapiro
Pedley


sunishun@... wrote:
>
>
> * *
>
> *Glen Avon fire at 60 acres*
>
> May 12, 2010 4:39 PM
>
>
>
> The wildfire that started north of Highway 60 in Glen Avon has grown
> from 40 to 60 acres and continues to burn in a northeasterly
> direction, according to Cal Fire.
>
> The fire is being driven by 15 mph westerly winds with gusts up to 25
> mph. Firefighters are expected to remain at the scene well into the night.
>
> California Highway Patrol officers have taken up position at Granite
> Hill Drive and Quartz Canyon Road, Granite Hill and Pedley Road and
> Granite Hill and Pyrite Street. Only local residents are being allowed
> access.
>
> Earlier, 32 of 126 mobile homes at Santiago Estates Mobile Home Park
> were evacuated. A woman who answered the phone at the park said the
> park was in the clear, but residents were having trouble getting back.
>
> * *
>
> http://blogs.pe.com/news/digest/wildfires/
>
>
>
>
>
>

Glen Avon fire at 60 acres May 12, 2010 4:39 PM The wildfire that started north of Highway 60 in Glen Avon has grown from 40 to 60 acres and continues to burn in a northeasterly direction, according to Cal Fire. The fire is being driven by 15 mph westerly winds with gusts up to 25 mph. Firefighters are expected to remain at the scene well into the night. California Highway Patrol officers have taken up position at Granite Hill Drive and Quartz Canyon Road, Granite Hill and Pedley Road and Granite Hill and Pyrite Street. Only local residents are being allowed access. Earlier, 32 of 126 mobile homes at Santiago Estates Mobile Home Park were evacuated. A woman who answered the phone at the park said the park was in the clear, but residents were having trouble getting back. http://blogs.pe.com/news/digest/wildfires/

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

300 acres, 30% containment.



Chris



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Chris



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There is currently flame at 34 degrees 01' 36.57" N , 117 degrees 28'
13.65" W

It is  NW Riverside County right at the San Bernardino County boundary.
South of Fontana, north of Glen Avon, East of Chino, NW of Riverside

Dan

Redhart wrote:
>
>
> Could you give those of us unfamiliar with these landmarks some idea
> of what area of California this might be? County would help.
> Redhart
>
>
>     Glen Avon fire at 60 acres May 12, 2010 4:39 PM The wildfire that
>     started north of Highway 60 in Glen Avon has grown from 40 to 60
>     acres and continues to burn in a northeasterly direction,
>     according to Cal Fire. The fire is being driven by 15 mph westerly
>     winds with gusts up to 25 mph. Firefighters are expected to remain
>     at the scene well into the night. California Highway Patrol
>     officers have taken up position at Granite Hill Drive and Quartz
>     Canyon Road, Granite Hill and Pedley Road and Granite Hill and
>     Pyrite Street. Only local residents are being allowed access.
>     Earlier, 32 of 126 mobile homes at Santiago Estates Mobile Home
>     Park were evacuated. A woman who answered the phone at the park
>     said the park was in the clear, but residents were having trouble
>     getting back. http://blogs.pe.com/news/digest/wildfires/
>
>
>
>

FYI, all:

Several groups are experiencing a problem where text messages (at least sent
or received via email) are being stripped of all carriage return/line feeds,
so that the whole message is one paragraph, including any "original message"
being replied to.

It appears YG is aware of this.

Thought you'd like to know, especially if you're seeing this happening.

" fully contained"


Wildfire scorches 500 acres in Glen Avon

07:04 AM PDT on Thursday, May 13, 2010
By JEFF HORSEMAN The Press-Enterprise
http://www.pe.com/localnews/stories/PE_News_Local_D_wavon13.3a97660.html

Video: Glen Avon fire fueled by wind   Photo Gallery: Glen Avon Fire
Special Section: Inland Wildfires
UPDATED: 6:30 a.m.

Five hundred acres have been blackened in the hills between Glen Avon and
Fontana, but fire crews fully contained the grass-and-brush blaze early this
morning, though some crews remain on scene extinguishing hotspots and
mopping up.

No injuries or damage have been reported, though deputy sheriffs temporarily
evacuated residents of 32 mobile homes yesterday in the 126-unit Santiago
Estates Mobile Home Park in Glen Avon. Cause of the fire hasn't been
determined.

The flames ignited at 1:31 p.m. Wednesday north of Highway 60 near Granite
Hill and Quartz Canyon Roads. The first fire crew to arrive reported that
two acres had burned and a 15-mph wind was helping to spread the flames.

At the height of the blaze, four air tankers and three water-dropping
helicopters were helping at least 215 fire fighters, including nine hand
crews.

The flames had blackened 300 acres by 9:30 p.m. Wednesday, and crews had cut
fire line around only 30 percent of the perimeter.

By 4:30 a.m. today, an additional 200 acres had burned, but crews had dug
containment lines around the entire perimeter.

As of 9:30 p.m. last night, the fire was 30 percent contained and burning
slowly northeast in the hills along the backside of Fontana, according to
Capt. Fernando Herrera, a spokesman for the Cal Fire. There was no estimate
on when it would be fully contained.

By late evening, although the fire was moving from an area with lighter
fuels in Riverside County toward denser fuels in San Bernardino County, the
wind had died down, which was helping firefighting efforts, Herrera said. No
evacuations were ordered as of 9:30.

However, firefighters were keeping an eye on a subdivision north of the
Jurupa Hills in case the flames threatened homes there. A large block wall
built around the hillside would provide protection, Herrera said.

Earlier Wednesday, authorities issued evacuation orders for 32 of 126 units
in the Santiago Estates Mobile Home Park. Residents were eventually allowed
to return.

More than 200 firefighters were deployed to the fire, along with 34 engines,
three helicopters and planes. The California Highway Patrol and Riverside
County Sheriff's Department controlled access to the scene and assisted with
evacuations.

Story continues below

Terry Pierson/The Press-Enterprise
A homeowner in Santiago Estates talks on the phone as a fast-moving grass
fire threatens homes in Glen Avon.
The CHP closed Pyrite Street north of the freeway and Granite Hill Drive
between Pedley Road and Pyrite Street. Access was limited to fire equipment.

The fire was visible throughout the Riverside area. One of those watching
was Giselle Santiago-Chanette, whose house was at the base of a hill near
the flames.

"(It's) very scary, especially when you're alone and disabled," she said.

Staff writer Jennifer Whitaker contributed to this report.

Reach Jeff Horseman at 951-375-3727 or jhorseman@...
http://www.pe.com/localnews/stories/PE_News_Local_D_wavon13.3a97660.html

Santa Barbara County. 200 Acres. 40% contained. Hwy 166 X Cottonwood Canyon. New
Cuyama area. Appears to be SRA.


NFI.


Chris



This message was sent via Verizon Wireless Blackberry

Thanks for joining SoCalFire! Here's a few rules to make everything run a
little smoother.

1. No whining.

I thought that I'd put this at the top of the list to remind all the newbies
and the oldbies that this list is not here for whining about other people and
their posts. If you have a problem with someone else on the list, send them a
message directly, or send a message to socalfire-owner@yahoogroups.com and
we'll take care of it.

2. Keep it on topic.

If the message has no fire-related content, keep it off the list. If you're
selling something, use the sale lists (there's at least a dozen fire/LMR
radio/ham radio sale lists on Y!G; use them.

There will be no posting of weather forecasts or discussions from any
organizations other than the National Weather Service or any other .gov
agency; Accuweather; The Weather Channel; or Intellicast. The only
exemption from this restriction is information from AMS or NWA certified
meteorologists or organizations.

3. No one-liners.

This goes for the "play-by-play" posters, and the one-line-question posters.
This is not a "play-by-play" list, that's SoCalFireNews. Please combine the
information that you've gathered into a larger post. If you're posting sooner
than every 15-30 minutes about a fire, you're posting too much.

Conversely, don't ask the endless stream of "what's the frequency" or "what
equipment" for fires. There's a usual set of frequencies used by the different
agencies, and you should have them programmed into your scanner, or on a sheet
close to it. The only exception to this rule is some of the air-air "Victor"
frequencies, which should be posted as soon as possible by whoever is covering
the fire. The rundown of equipment is done on the initial dispatch, which
someone should be writing down before posting to the list.

4. Trim your replies/Watch the subject line.

This is mainly for those people that recieve this list in digest form. At the
bottom of every message sent out by Y!G, there's an ad. GET RID OF IT!!!!! We
don't like to see them in the first place, why would we want to see them over
and over in replies?

When you're replying to someone, trim their quoted material, or clean it up as
to make what you're replying to more noticable. The digest readers don't need
to see 157 lines of quoting (including ads) for just a one line reply to a
message.

Digest readers: when you reply to a message in the digest, quote only what
you're replying to, and not the 2000+ lines of the digest. Make sure that you
change the subject of the message from "Digest ####" to the subject of the
section you're replying to. It helps keep everything on-thread.

When there's multiple incidents going on in a unit or county, make sure that the
thread has the right incident name listed. When there's several threads running
with the subject "New Start - RRU" it makes it rather tough to figure out which
incident is which. "New Start - RRU - Jurupa IC" is fine, and drop the "New
Start" after the first couple of posts or hours.

5. Moderation

New members are automatically placed on moderation. This is mainly to stop the
spam that has become pervasive on the system. It's also so that we (the
moderators) know that you're okay, and not some kind of wierdo. You'll come off
moderation when we feel that it's okay to turn you loose to the list.

Old members may go back on moderation if they break the rules. Mainly this is
for breaking Rule #1 (no whining), for flaming another list member, or posting
something completely off-topic. If you've been placed on moderation, you'll be
taken off when the moderators think you can be trusted again.

6. Check the archives

If you've missed a post, or need information about a fire, check the archives,
which are available to all members. Whatever goes out to the list is archived,
so you should be able to do a little research to get the info you need before
asking the list.

7. Have fun!

This list is for getting the information about fires in SoCal out, so we all
know what's going on. The news media isn't very much help in getting the
specifics out, and you can listen to the incidents as they unfold.

If you have any questions, complaints, or suggestions, email them to socalfire-
owner@yahoogroups.com and we will try to get to them as soon as possible.

Smokey Behr, List Owner

I thought you might find this article of interest.

Redondo Beach abandons fire department merger plan with Hermosa - By Kristin S. Agostoni Staff Writer

Redondo Beach city leaders have abandoned their study of a potential fire department merger with neighboring Hermosa Beach, deciding the plan poses significant hurdles and may not result in major cost savings. View Full Story

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