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#14132

From: "bricci101" <bricci101@...>
Date: Sat Oct 1, 2005 2:27 pm
Subject: Thurman : New Air 2 Ground

bricci101

168.0875 as of 0727hrs.

#14133

From: "Charles" <chill448@...>
Date: Sat Oct 1, 2005 2:28 pm
Subject: Pictures of So Cal Fires

aquaboy069

Ok, I noticed a few people asking for pictures, I cam across this link
below. Go to it then look at the 4 volumes that they have so far. Vol
3 and 4 have some good shoots of Tanker 21 and some P2's. For some
reason however once you are half way through them it will time out and
you have to start again, seems to be some sort of problem, anyways
it's better then nothing. Pictures are from both the Chatsworth fire
and Burbank fire, even have some shoots of the Super Poopers! :-)

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9552992/

#14134

From: "bricci101" <bricci101@...>
Date: Sat Oct 1, 2005 2:48 pm
Subject: Answering Request :: Current Audio Feeds

bricci101

The current audio feeds are still uip thtat I am aware of:

teamspeak://radio.scannerbuff.net:8767

http://radio.scannerbuff.net:8008/chatsworth.m3u - Topanga Fire
http://radio.scannerbuff.net:8008/bigbear.m3u - Thurman Flats
http://radio.scannerbuff.net:8008/verdugo.m3u - Castaways Fire
http://radio.scannerbuff.net:8008/lapd.m3u - Castaways LEO OPS
http://bigbearscanner.com

I will be down the hill all day and hope to return to Big Bear without
any road closures due to fire! In the event of a major incident please
login to our Teamspeak server and grab an Admin. The Admin. is able to
remote control our station.

#14135

From: Mike Meadows <meadows@...>
Date: Sat Oct 1, 2005 4:19 pm
Subject: Re: Pictures of So Cal Fires

fotoguy425

I'll try to post some pictures soon...
On Oct 1, 2005, at 7:28 AM, Charles wrote:

> Ok, I noticed a few people asking for pictures, I cam across this link
> below. Go to it then look at the 4 volumes that they have so far. Vol
> 3 and 4 have some good shoots of Tanker 21 and some P2's. For some
> reason however once you are half way through them it will time out and
> you have to start again, seems to be some sort of problem, anyways
> it's better then nothing. Pictures are from both the Chatsworth fire
> and Burbank fire, even have some shoots of the Super Poopers! :-)
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#14136

From: "R O'Connor" <rocdad@...>
Date: Sat Oct 1, 2005 4:41 pm
Subject: Re: "Topanga" incident

rocdad

That was a very informative answer much more than this "thing" is done one liner
   Since I am in Nor/Cen Cal where it is in the ninety's and clear with humidity
in the high 30's.
  I did not imagine that your weather was so cooperative down there where it is
usually hotter than here and the News people spit out Santa Anna winds every
other sentence!
  Lets hope the good weather holds for a few days so this "thing" can get wrapped
up.
   I have a lot of extended family down there (Burbank area) and was really
picturing another firestorm like the 2003 Cedar fire in my mind.
Bob

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Mike Meadows
   To: SoCalFire@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 8:50 PM
   Subject: Re: [SoCalFire] "Topanga" incident


   Bob, I'm not a rookie here. I've been on these fires for 30 years. The
   weather says it's done. The winds stopped and started onshore. We have
   cloud cover with humidity coming in now. Sure, there will be flare-ups
   and the such but the forward progression of the fire has been stopped.
   There was no further progression on the flanks either.
        Don't know if you remember the Old fire from 2003 in the
   firestorms.  If you do, you'll remember right after the fire went
   through Hook Creek near Arrowhead and took out 400 structures. Within 2
   hours, we had fog and light rain. The weather stopped the fire.
        Crews will be on this fire for a week or longer dousing hot spots,
   digging out snags and so on and so on.........containment is a shakey
   word. It means the fireline is tied in. Of course this line is not tied
   in but the fire had stopped it's movement.
       This doesn't mean an 80 MPH wind tomorrow wind send it flying.
   Oh well, thats my opinion. Perhaps you should ask the Chief and see
   what he thinks. hell, I never know what i'm talking about.
   On Sep 30, 2005, at 8:26 PM, R O'Connor wrote:

   > How could this "thing" be done? 20,000 plus acres with out 100%
   > containment and it is going to take days to mop up after containment
   > and longer to rehab.
   > So how is this "thing" done?
   > Bob
   >   ----- Original Message -----
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   >   Subject: Re: [SoCalFire] "Topanga" incident
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   >   David, this thing is all but done...
   >   On Sep 30, 2005, at 11:12 AM, David wrote:
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#14137

From: "Craig Lindstrom" <craigstrom@...>
Date: Sat Oct 1, 2005 4:50 pm
Subject: Thruman Fire...

craigystrom

Anyone have any updates on this fire. No header showing from Big Bear this
morning, but reports were that last night flames raged up to 100 feet.

Getting information is sketchy at best and the live scanner as good as it
is, isn't really providing "details".

Thanks.

Craig



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#14138

From: "R O'Connor" <rocdad@...>
Date: Sat Oct 1, 2005 4:50 pm
Subject: Re: "Topanga" incident

rocdad

Mike,
This morning's NIFC report apparently does not reflect the weather/fire
situation either so thanks for the clarification.
  Also shows nearly 24k acreage which I had not seen on any Fire/Scanlist.
Bob

SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AREA INCIDENTS / LARGE FIRES:

HARVARD, Burbank Fire Department.. This fire is located in Burbank, CA in
brush and grass. Voluntary evacuations are in progress. Electrical
transmission lines, communication facilities and a historical building are
threatened. High temperatures, low humidity and steep terrain are
hampering containment efforts.

THURMAN, San Bernardino National Forest. A Unified Command has been
established between a Type 2 Incident Management Team (Kerr), and San
Bernadino County agencies. A Type 1 Incident Management Team has been
ordered. This fire is five miles northeast of Redlands, CA in chaparral.
Mandatory evacuations are in place for surrounding communities. Cultural
archeological sites are threatened. Steep terrain, high temperatures, low
humidity and heavy fuels are contributing to plume dominated fire
conditions.

TOPANGA, Los Angeles County Fire Department. A Unified Command has been
established between a California Department of Forestry and Fire
Protection (CDF) Type 1 Incident Command Team (Heil) and other agencies.
This fire is located in Chatsworth, CA in chaparral. Residences,
watershed, electrical transmission lines, communication equipment and
wildlife habitats continue to be threatened. Road closures and evacuations
remain in place. Containment efforts continue to be hindered by steep,
inaccessible terrain, high winds, low humidity and unstable fire behavior.

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     INCIDENT    |ST|UNIT| SIZE | % | EST |TOTAL|CRW|ENG|HELI|STRC| $$$ |Org
       NAME      |  |    |      |CTN| CTN |PERS |   |   |    |LOSS|C-T-D|Own
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HARVARD        |CA| BRK|   917| 15| 10/2|  115|  8| 70|   3|   0| 500K|NTY
THURMAN        |CA| BDF|  1000|  5|  UNK|  650| 13| 31|   4|   0| 650K| FS
TOPANGA        |CA| LAC| 23970| 40| 10/3| 2710| 84|341|  11|   6| 4.2M|NTY
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   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Mike Meadows
   To: SoCalFire@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 8:50 PM
   Subject: Re: [SoCalFire] "Topanga" incident

   Bob, I'm not a rookie here. I've been on these fires for 30 years. The
   weather says it's done. The winds stopped and started onshore. We have
   cloud cover with humidity coming in now. Sure, there will be flare-ups
   and the such but the forward progression of the fire has been stopped.
   There was no further progression on the flanks either.
        Don't know if you remember the Old fire from 2003 in the
   firestorms.  If you do, you'll remember right after the fire went
   through Hook Creek near Arrowhead and took out 400 structures. Within 2
   hours, we had fog and light rain. The weather stopped the fire.
        Crews will be on this fire for a week or longer dousing hot spots,
   digging out snags and so on and so on.........containment is a shakey
   word. It means the fireline is tied in. Of course this line is not tied
   in but the fire had stopped it's movement.
       This doesn't mean an 80 MPH wind tomorrow wind send it flying.
   Oh well, thats my opinion. Perhaps you should ask the Chief and see
   what he thinks. hell, I never know what i'm talking about.
   On Sep 30, 2005, at 8:26 PM, R O'Connor wrote:

   > How could this "thing" be done? 20,000 plus acres with out 100%
   > containment and it is going to take days to mop up after containment
   > and longer to rehab.
   > So how is this "thing" done?
   > Bob
   >   ----- Original Message -----
   >   From: Mike Meadows
   >   To: SoCalFire@yahoogroups.com
   >   Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 8:00 PM
   >   Subject: Re: [SoCalFire] "Topanga" incident
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   >   David, this thing is all but done...
   >   On Sep 30, 2005, at 11:12 AM, David wrote:
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#14139

From: "Mark E. Robinson" <mrobin@...>
Date: Sat Oct 1, 2005 6:16 am
Subject: Re: Re: Castaways IC - Burbank

fibertalk_1

On 1 Oct 2005 at 5:55, gemcohauler wrote:

> Did anyone else happen to catch the poignant conversation between the
> Air Boss and the Super Scooper pilot shortly before 7pm?  And the
> subsequent conversation between the Air Boss and LAFD 6 after that?

No, so fill in...please..

Mark

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#14140

From: "antisocdragonfly" <Antisocdragonfly@...>
Date: Sat Oct 1, 2005 6:46 am
Subject: Good piece on LA Co Fire photographers- rebroadcast at 1:00am

antisocdrago...

Fox 11 10:00 news had some good front line images & a story on the
fire photographers, primarily from LA Co... they rebroadcast the 10:00
news again at 1:00am- so anyone able to catch it at 1:00 should check
it out. Awesome work you guys-
Laura

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#14141

From: Mark Panitz <mrpanitz@...>
Date: Sat Oct 1, 2005 4:54 pm
Subject: annoyed at the News Media -Topanga Fire

mrpanitz

I'm peeved at the News Media for calling this
Fire which stated in Chatsworth the Topanga fire
its NO WHERE NEAR area 0TOPANAGA CANYON
TOPANGA CANYON IS SOUTH OF THE 101 and this fire
start NORTH OF THE SIMI VALLEY FREEYWAY!
the news media should have called the CHATSWORTH
FIRE..
not the Topaga Fire and now people assume they
means Topana Canyon south of the 101 (Ventura Freeway)

#14142

From: Don Root <k6cdo@...>
Date: Sat Oct 1, 2005 5:13 pm
Subject: Re: annoyed at the News Media -Topanga Fire

k6cdo

Mark Panitz wrote:
> I'm peeved at the News Media for calling this
> Fire which stated in Chatsworth the Topanga fire
> its NO WHERE NEAR area 0TOPANAGA CANYON
> TOPANGA CANYON IS SOUTH OF THE 101 and this fire
> start NORTH OF THE SIMI VALLEY FREEYWAY!
> the news media should have called the CHATSWORTH
> FIRE..
> not the Topaga Fire and now people assume they
> means Topana Canyon south of the 101 (Ventura Freeway)

Mark -

Fires are named by the Incident Command or the dispatch center of the
initial responding agency, not the media.

The official name of the fire is the Topanga Incident.  The official
name of the fire in Burbank is the Harvard Incident.

Don

#14143

From: sherry bowden <sabowden30@...>
Date: Sat Oct 1, 2005 5:27 pm
Subject: Re: Firefighting aircraft

sabowden30

are these also the ground units feq
Matt

Mike <mikkel@...> wrote:
Today, not counting County FD's,
I've heard firefighting aircraft on:
123.975
135.975
151.2725
154.265
166.675
168.05
168.0875
168.10
168.675
168.625
169.125
169.150
169.3625
169.825





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#14144

From: "James Richardson" <jimmnn@...>
Date: Sat Oct 1, 2005 5:19 pm
Subject: RE: annoyed at the News Media -Topanga Fire

jimmnn2000

Mark Panitz wrote:
> I'm peeved at the News Media for calling this
> Fire which stated in Chatsworth the Topanga fire
> its NO WHERE NEAR area 0TOPANAGA CANYON
> TOPANGA CANYON IS SOUTH OF THE 101 and this fire
> start NORTH OF THE SIMI VALLEY FREEYWAY!
> the news media should have called the CHATSWORTH
> FIRE..
> not the Topaga Fire and now people assume they
> means Topana Canyon south of the 101 (Ventura Freeway)




But it's not the media's fault, fires are named by the incident commanders.



  Jim<

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#14145

From: "Hap W." <nkpcommando@...>
Date: Sat Oct 1, 2005 5:53 pm
Subject: Re: annoyed at the News Media -Topanga Fire

whapw

Its called the "Topanga" fire because it started near TOPANGA BLVD, which runs
right throught the middle of Chatsworth. Even back in my "Corriganville" days as
kid..........


Howard W.
Ryan AAB
Public Info



----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Panitz
To: SoCalFire@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 9:54 AM
Subject: [SoCalFire] annoyed at the News Media -Topanga Fire



I'm peeved at the News Media for calling this
Fire which stated in Chatsworth the Topanga fire
its NO WHERE NEAR area 0TOPANAGA CANYON
TOPANGA CANYON IS SOUTH OF THE 101 and this fire
start NORTH OF THE SIMI VALLEY FREEYWAY!
the news media should have called the CHATSWORTH
FIRE..
not the Topaga Fire and now people assume they
means Topana Canyon south of the 101 (Ventura Freeway)




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#14146

From: "Craig Lindstrom" <craigstrom@...>
Date: Sat Oct 1, 2005 5:57 pm
Subject: Thurman Fire Update...

craigystrom

Okay, just talked to the various PIO's etc on this fire near Big Bear /
Angeles Oaks.

The fire has burnt 1200 acres and is 12% contained. Winds are calm, and
humidities are running 30% which is good.

Fire is barely moving this morning as a massive air assault and over 900
firefighters attempt to get a handle on this fire.

Mandatory Evacs for: Angeles Oaks, Mountain Home Village, Forest Falls, and
Barton Flats, Seven Oaks areas (and all campgrounds in that area).



This afternoon will be the make or break point as winds are predicted to
change out to out of the west and increase to up to 15mph.



Anyone else have any info, comments??????



Craig

In Big Bear



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#14147

From: "Mike" <mikkel@...>
Date: Sat Oct 1, 2005 6:09 pm
Subject: Re: Firefighting aircraft

calif4nian

These are air-air or air-ground only.  Here's the latest for SoCal:
122.225
123.175
123.975
130.200
135.975
151.220
151.2725
154.265
166.675
168.05
168.0875
168.100
168.625
168.675
169.125
169.150
169.3625
169.825
170.00

--- In SoCalFire@yahoogroups.com, sherry bowden <sabowden30@y...> wrote:
> are these also the ground units feq
> Matt

#14148

From: co004@...
Date: Sat Oct 1, 2005 6:10 pm
Subject: Re: annoyed at the News Media -Topanga Fire

co004us

It refers to the point of origin. The westbound 118 at Topanga Canyon Blvd
(approximately). See
<www.steamboatnews.com> for more details.

On 1 Oct 2005 at 10:13, Don Root wrote:

>
> Fires are named by the Incident Command or the dispatch center of the
> initial responding agency, not the media.
>
> The official name of the fire is the Topanga Incident.  The official
> name of the fire in Burbank is the Harvard Incident.

#14149

From: "R O'Connor" <rocdad@...>
Date: Sat Oct 1, 2005 6:35 pm
Subject: Re: Firefighting aircraft poignant conversation

rocdad

Poignant conversation? Got me curious tell us about it.
Bob
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Mark E. Robinson
   To: SoCalFire@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 11:16 PM
   Subject: Re: [SoCalFire] Re: Castaways IC - Burbank


   On 1 Oct 2005 at 5:55, gemcohauler wrote:

   > Did anyone else happen to catch the poignant conversation between the
   > Air Boss and the Super Scooper pilot shortly before 7pm?  And the
   > subsequent conversation between the Air Boss and LAFD 6 after that?

   No, so fill in...please..

   Mark


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#14150

From: "R O'Connor" <rocdad@...>
Date: Sat Oct 1, 2005 6:37 pm
Subject: Re: accident investigation death of Eva Shicke.

rocdad

CDF has released the accident investigation report on the death of Helitack crew
member Eva Shicke.
  This is a large very comprehensive PDF file but well worth reading for
firefighters and Scanner buffs alike.
  Very surprised to find out that if I had been trying to listening to the fire
ground communications with my scanner programmed with all of the CDF freqs I
would of not heard the communications of the CDF Helitack crew because they were
only using USFS Tac #2..
  And communications both radio and face to face or lack there of were cited as a
causal factor in this tragedy.

Accident Investigation Report -
CDF Helitack Crew 404 Burnover -
http://www.fire.ca.gov/php/fire_er_fatalities_404burnover.php
   Bob
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Don Root
   To: SoCalFire@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 10:13 AM
   Subject: Re: [SoCalFire] annoyed at the News Media -Topanga Fire

   Mark Panitz wrote:
   > I'm peeved at the News Media for calling this
   > Fire which stated in Chatsworth the Topanga fire
   > its NO WHERE NEAR area 0TOPANAGA CANYON
   > TOPANGA CANYON IS SOUTH OF THE 101 and this fire
   > start NORTH OF THE SIMI VALLEY FREEYWAY!
   > the news media should have called the CHATSWORTH
   > FIRE..
   > not the Topaga Fire and now people assume they
   > means Topana Canyon south of the 101 (Ventura Freeway)

   Mark -

   Fires are named by the Incident Command or the dispatch center of the
   initial responding agency, not the media.

   The official name of the fire is the Topanga Incident.  The official
   name of the fire in Burbank is the Harvard Incident.

   Don

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#14151

From: sherry bowden <sabowden30@...>
Date: Sat Oct 1, 2005 6:42 pm
Subject: RE: Re: Thurman Fire

sabowden30

can I get the ground feqs for this fire
Thansk Matt

Craig Lindstrom <craigstrom@...> wrote:
Thank You!!! THAT'S THE FREQ!!! Picking up tons now! THANKS AGAIN!!

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Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 4:15 PM
To: SoCalFire@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [SoCalFire] Re: Thurman Fire

--- In SoCalFire@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Lindstrom" <craigstrom@e...>
wrote:
> Thanks, yes, its not looking so good.
> DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE THE AIR FREQUENCIES WERE MOVED TO?
> Yesterday I had it all on the Big Bear Scanner, and I have programmed
> everything known to man kind in the scanner.
> Are they using FRS or something?? LOL
>
> Evacs could be ordered for parts of Big Bear here shortly depending
on it
> reaching a trigger point which is not far from where the fire is
burning.
>

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#14152

From: Mike Meadows <fotoguy425@...>
Date: Sat Oct 1, 2005 6:44 pm
Subject: Re: annoyed at the News Media -Topanga Fire

fotoguy425

Topanga canyon runs from Highway 101 to the 118
Freeway in Chatsworth. The fire started along the 118
freeway just east of Topanga the first unit on scene
(battalion 14, LA City fd) called for a full alarrm
brush and named the incident the Topanga incident.
     This was an LA City fire.

--- "Hap W." <nkpcommando@...> wrote:

> Its called the "Topanga" fire because it started
> near TOPANGA BLVD, which runs right throught the
> middle of Chatsworth. Even back in my
> "Corriganville" days as kid..........
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> Howard W.
> Ryan AAB
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mark Panitz
> To: SoCalFire@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 9:54 AM
> Subject: [SoCalFire] annoyed at the News Media
> -Topanga Fire
>
>
>
> I'm peeved at the News Media for calling this
> Fire which stated in Chatsworth the Topanga fire
> its NO WHERE NEAR area 0TOPANAGA CANYON
> TOPANGA CANYON IS SOUTH OF THE 101 and this fire
> start NORTH OF THE SIMI VALLEY FREEYWAY!
> the news media should have called the CHATSWORTH
> FIRE..
> not the Topaga Fire and now people assume they
> means Topana Canyon south of the 101 (Ventura
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#14153

From: Mike Meadows <fotoguy425@...>
Date: Sat Oct 1, 2005 6:48 pm
Subject: Re: "Topanga" incident

fotoguy425

No problem. Just heard on the fire weather forecast
that another offshore event will start Monday evening
through Wed. Also the acreage is now 23,900 acres.

--- R O'Connor <rocdad@...> wrote:

> Mike,
> This morning's NIFC report apparently does not
> reflect the weather/fire situation either so thanks
> for the clarification.
>  Also shows nearly 24k acreage which I had not seen
> on any Fire/Scanlist.
> Bob
>
> SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AREA INCIDENTS / LARGE FIRES:
>
> HARVARD, Burbank Fire Department.. This fire is
> located in Burbank, CA in
> brush and grass. Voluntary evacuations are in
> progress. Electrical
> transmission lines, communication facilities and a
> historical building are
> threatened. High temperatures, low humidity and
> steep terrain are
> hampering containment efforts.
>
> THURMAN, San Bernardino National Forest. A Unified
> Command has been
> established between a Type 2 Incident Management
> Team (Kerr), and San
> Bernadino County agencies. A Type 1 Incident
> Management Team has been
> ordered. This fire is five miles northeast of
> Redlands, CA in chaparral.
> Mandatory evacuations are in place for surrounding
> communities. Cultural
> archeological sites are threatened. Steep terrain,
> high temperatures, low
> humidity and heavy fuels are contributing to plume
> dominated fire
> conditions.
>
> TOPANGA, Los Angeles County Fire Department. A
> Unified Command has been
> established between a California Department of
> Forestry and Fire
> Protection (CDF) Type 1 Incident Command Team (Heil)
> and other agencies.
> This fire is located in Chatsworth, CA in chaparral.
> Residences,
> watershed, electrical transmission lines,
> communication equipment and
> wildlife habitats continue to be threatened. Road
> closures and evacuations
> remain in place. Containment efforts continue to be
> hindered by steep,
> inaccessible terrain, high winds, low humidity and
> unstable fire behavior.
>
>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     INCIDENT    |ST|UNIT| SIZE | % | EST
> |TOTAL|CRW|ENG|HELI|STRC| $$$ |Org
>       NAME      |  |    |      |CTN| CTN |PERS |   |
>   |    |LOSS|C-T-D|Own
>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
> HARVARD        |CA| BRK|   917| 15| 10/2|  115|  8|
> 70|   3|   0| 500K|NTY
> THURMAN        |CA| BDF|  1000|  5|  UNK|  650| 13|
> 31|   4|   0| 650K| FS
> TOPANGA        |CA| LAC| 23970| 40| 10/3| 2710|
> 84|341|  11|   6| 4.2M|NTY
>
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>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Mike Meadows
>   To: SoCalFire@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 8:50 PM
>   Subject: Re: [SoCalFire] "Topanga" incident
>
>
>   Bob, I'm not a rookie here. I've been on these
> fires for 30 years. The
>   weather says it's done. The winds stopped and
> started onshore. We have
>   cloud cover with humidity coming in now. Sure,
> there will be flare-ups
>   and the such but the forward progression of the
> fire has been stopped.
>   There was no further progression on the flanks
> either.
>        Don't know if you remember the Old fire from
> 2003 in the
>   firestorms.  If you do, you'll remember right
> after the fire went
>   through Hook Creek near Arrowhead and took out 400
> structures. Within 2
>   hours, we had fog and light rain. The weather
> stopped the fire.
>        Crews will be on this fire for a week or
> longer dousing hot spots,
>   digging out snags and so on and so
> on.........containment is a shakey
>   word. It means the fireline is tied in. Of course
> this line is not tied
>   in but the fire had stopped it's movement.
>       This doesn't mean an 80 MPH wind tomorrow wind
> send it flying.
>   Oh well, thats my opinion. Perhaps you should ask
> the Chief and see
>   what he thinks. hell, I never know what i'm
> talking about.
>   On Sep 30, 2005, at 8:26 PM, R O'Connor wrote:
>
>   > How could this "thing" be done? 20,000 plus
> acres with out 100%
>   > containment and it is going to take days to mop
> up after containment
>   > and longer to rehab.
>   > So how is this "thing" done?
>   > Bob
>   >   ----- Original Message -----
>   >   From: Mike Meadows
>   >   To: SoCalFire@yahoogroups.com
>   >   Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 8:00 PM
>   >   Subject: Re: [SoCalFire] "Topanga" incident
>   >
>   >
>   >   David, this thing is all but done...
>   >   On Sep 30, 2005, at 11:12 AM, David wrote:
>   >
>   >> Any 11am update on the Topanga fire for us
> outside the area?
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#14154

From: "Craig Lindstrom" <craigstrom@...>
Date: Sat Oct 1, 2005 6:50 pm
Subject: RE: Re: Thurman Fire

craigystrom

Matt,
168.600, 168.100, 166.725 is their on ground tacs.
Command is on 171.475 mhz (may have moved though as I am hearing little).

-----Original Message-----
From: SoCalFire@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SoCalFire@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of sherry bowden
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 11:43 AM
To: SoCalFire@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [SoCalFire] Re: Thurman Fire

can I get the ground feqs for this fire
Thansk Matt

Craig Lindstrom <craigstrom@...> wrote:
Thank You!!! THAT'S THE FREQ!!! Picking up tons now! THANKS AGAIN!!

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Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 4:15 PM
To: SoCalFire@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [SoCalFire] Re: Thurman Fire

--- In SoCalFire@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Lindstrom" <craigstrom@e...>
wrote:
> Thanks, yes, its not looking so good.
> DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE THE AIR FREQUENCIES WERE MOVED TO?
> Yesterday I had it all on the Big Bear Scanner, and I have programmed
> everything known to man kind in the scanner.
> Are they using FRS or something?? LOL
>
> Evacs could be ordered for parts of Big Bear here shortly depending
on it
> reaching a trigger point which is not far from where the fire is
burning.
>

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#14155

From: sherry bowden <sabowden30@...>
Date: Sat Oct 1, 2005 6:54 pm
Subject: RE: Re: Thurman Fire

sabowden30

Thanks

Craig Lindstrom <craigstrom@...> wrote:Matt,
168.600, 168.100, 166.725 is their on ground tacs.
Command is on 171.475 mhz (may have moved though as I am hearing little).

-----Original Message-----
From: SoCalFire@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SoCalFire@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of sherry bowden
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 11:43 AM
To: SoCalFire@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [SoCalFire] Re: Thurman Fire

can I get the ground feqs for this fire
Thansk Matt

Craig Lindstrom <craigstrom@...> wrote:
Thank You!!! THAT'S THE FREQ!!! Picking up tons now! THANKS AGAIN!!

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Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 4:15 PM
To: SoCalFire@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [SoCalFire] Re: Thurman Fire

--- In SoCalFire@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Lindstrom" <craigstrom@e...>
wrote:
> Thanks, yes, its not looking so good.
> DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE THE AIR FREQUENCIES WERE MOVED TO?
> Yesterday I had it all on the Big Bear Scanner, and I have programmed
> everything known to man kind in the scanner.
> Are they using FRS or something?? LOL
>
> Evacs could be ordered for parts of Big Bear here shortly depending
on it
> reaching a trigger point which is not far from where the fire is
burning.
>

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#14156

From: Mike Meadows <fotoguy425@...>
Date: Sat Oct 1, 2005 6:57 pm
Subject: Re: "Topanga" incident

fotoguy425

Ok, perhaps a bad choice of word (thing) but I'm sure
everyone know what I was referring to Bob. You have to
understand I just spent 20 hours on this "thing" fire
and I was a tad spent.
     Down here when the Santa Ana is blowing, obviously
the fire is moving. When they do stop, you can always
tell by the smoke column. At this location the smoke
was heading in a south/west direction. It was very
obvious that when the smoke direction changed, it did
so dramatically from an offshore to an onshore and
covering the entire San Fernando Valley where 2 hours
earlier it had been clear as a bell. Down here a Santa
Ana wind is a north/east wind blowing to the
south/west. Sept, Oct and Nov are our Santa Ana wind
months (usually near the end of Oct) so this one was a
tad early as the one nect week will be.
   And also bob, it's usually not that hot when the
Santa Ana'a blow  (75 to 85)  Sorry for the "thing"
thing...lol

--- R O'Connor <rocdad@...> wrote:

> That was a very informative answer much more than
> this "thing" is done one liner
>   Since I am in Nor/Cen Cal where it is in the
> ninety's and clear with humidity in the high 30's.
>  I did not imagine that your weather was so
> cooperative down there where it is usually hotter
> than here and the News people spit out Santa Anna
> winds every other sentence!
>  Lets hope the good weather holds for a few days so
> this "thing" can get wrapped up.
>   I have a lot of extended family down there
> (Burbank area) and was really picturing another
> firestorm like the 2003 Cedar fire in my mind.
> Bob
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Mike Meadows
>   To: SoCalFire@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 8:50 PM
>   Subject: Re: [SoCalFire] "Topanga" incident
>
>
>   Bob, I'm not a rookie here. I've been on these
> fires for 30 years. The
>   weather says it's done. The winds stopped and
> started onshore. We have
>   cloud cover with humidity coming in now. Sure,
> there will be flare-ups
>   and the such but the forward progression of the
> fire has been stopped.
>   There was no further progression on the flanks
> either.
>        Don't know if you remember the Old fire from
> 2003 in the
>   firestorms.  If you do, you'll remember right
> after the fire went
>   through Hook Creek near Arrowhead and took out 400
> structures. Within 2
>   hours, we had fog and light rain. The weather
> stopped the fire.
>        Crews will be on this fire for a week or
> longer dousing hot spots,
>   digging out snags and so on and so
> on.........containment is a shakey
>   word. It means the fireline is tied in. Of course
> this line is not tied
>   in but the fire had stopped it's movement.
>       This doesn't mean an 80 MPH wind tomorrow wind
> send it flying.
>   Oh well, thats my opinion. Perhaps you should ask
> the Chief and see
>   what he thinks. hell, I never know what i'm
> talking about.
>   On Sep 30, 2005, at 8:26 PM, R O'Connor wrote:
>
>   > How could this "thing" be done? 20,000 plus
> acres with out 100%
>   > containment and it is going to take days to mop
> up after containment
>   > and longer to rehab.
>   > So how is this "thing" done?
>   > Bob
>   >   ----- Original Message -----
>   >   From: Mike Meadows
>   >   To: SoCalFire@yahoogroups.com
>   >   Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 8:00 PM
>   >   Subject: Re: [SoCalFire] "Topanga" incident
>   >
>   >
>   >   David, this thing is all but done...
>   >   On Sep 30, 2005, at 11:12 AM, David wrote:
>   >
>   >> Any 11am update on the Topanga fire for us
> outside the area?
>   >>
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>   >> David
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#14157

From: metrom129@...
Date: Sat Oct 1, 2005 3:55 pm
Subject: Update

lapd2600

Anyone have current updates on the Topanga and Burbank Fires????


I have just posted some of my shots from Topanga -

_http://www.sportsshooter.com/members.html?id=4464_
(http://www.sportsshooter.com/members.html?id=4464)


Enjoy!

Chris  Jensen
Action Fire & EMS  Photography
www.actionfirephoto.com


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#14158

From: "R O'Connor" <rocdad@...>
Date: Sat Oct 1, 2005 8:03 pm
Subject: Re: Update-Saturday Morning Topanga Incident Update

rocdad

I just received this link in my inbox. It is the official LAFD blog and has the
most current updates.
http://lafd.blogspot.com/2005/10/saturday-morning-topanga-incident.html

Saturday, October 01, 2005
Saturday Morning Topanga Incident Update
This information was approved for public release on 10/1/2005 at 0900 Hours and
was considered correct at that time. The information presented is not meant to
replace any formal information or updates presented to the public by the
Incident Commanders through the Joint Information Center.

TIME OF ALARM: 1:47 PM, WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 28, 2005
LAFD INCIDENT# 0542
INCIDENT NAME: Topanga

LOCATION: Initial Dispatch-W/Bound 118 Fwy x Topanga Canyon Bl.
BRUSH TYPE: Medium to Heavy Brush.

CONDITIONS ON ARRIVAL:Initial report - was 3 acres of light to moderate brush
with 20-30 mph winds, gusts up to 50 mph.

CURRENT SIZE: 23,970 Acres.

CURRENT CONDITION: 40% Containment

TOTAL FIRE SUPPRESSION COST TO DATE: $5,385,663

STRUCTURES BURNED: 1 Single Family Dwelling Destroyed, 1 Single Family Dwelling
Damaged, 1 Detached Garage Burned, 3 Out Buildings Burned, 1 Storage Building
(at Rocketdyne) Burned.

REPORTED INJURIES: On Wednesday, one Los Angeles City Fire Captain was struck by
a 40 lb. boulder. He was knocked unconscious for 5 minutes. Following an
evaluation at Holy Cross Medical Center in Mission Hills, including a CAT scan,
he has been released and is now resting at home. On Thursday, one Los Angeles
City Fire Engineer sustained an ankle injury. He was transported to a local
emergency room, evaluated and placed off duty. He is now recuperating at home.
There have been additional reports Friday of non-life threatening injuries to as
many as four Fire Service personnel from allied agencies. Specific information
regarding said injuries and the identification of personnel must come directly
from Incident Command Staff.
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   Subject: [SoCalFire] Update


   >Anyone have current updates on the Topanga and >Burbank Fires????



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#14159

From: RyanHBrewart@...
Date: Sat Oct 1, 2005 4:41 pm
Subject: Re: Thurman Fire Update...

fireman90200303

I just heard Rancho Cucamonga's water tender 175 be dispatched to the
Thurman fire..


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