We've come across an unusual CD in English.

I will be placing an order on Monday.

If anyone would like a copy, email greg@...
by Monday morning and we will add it to our order.

Cost will be $14.99, postpaid.

I think if the group gets enough exposure for the
CD they will have a very successful recording.

Make Ready O Bethlehem

The Byzantine Chants of Christmas sung in English by
Anaphora.

The CD features the Chants of the Orthodox Church and
Eastern Catholic Rites celebrating the Feast of the
Nativity of Our Lord. These are not the standard Koledy,
Schedrivky and Carols of Ukraine, Russia, and Slovakia
but the sacred music chant of the Feast of the Nativity.

In the tradition of the Eastern Christiam Churches
all chants are sung a Capella.

Chants on the CD are:

Let Us Go Before All Nations - Tone 1

Behold the Time of Our Salvation Aproacheth - Tone 8

Make Ready O Bethlehem - Tone 4

Christ is Born - Tone 1

More Honorable - Tone 1

Magnify O My Soul - Tone 1

The Virgin Cometh Today - Tone 3

The Gospel of the Third Hour - Luke 2:1-20

Thy Nativity, O Christ Our God - Tone 4

From My Youth Up - Tone 4

From the Womb - Tone 4

Today All Creatures - Tone 2

9th Odes of Both Nativity Canons - Tone 1

Our Savior Hath Visited Us Today - Tone 3

Let Everything That Hath Breathe - Tone 4

Come Let Us Praise the Mother - Tone 4

When It Was Time - Tone 6

As Many As Have Been Baptized - Tone 1

The Shepherds Hastened - Tone 8

Today All the Angels - Tone 6

Make Ready O Bethlehem stands solidly within the
pattern of Traditional Byzantine Chant -- robust, tasteful,
uplifting, powerful, inspiring; including a variety of
choral and solo chanting with (sometimes layered) eson.

The Anaphora Byzantine singers are a group of young chanters
at St. Mary Antiochian Orthodox Church in Omaha, Nebraska
(male and female), along with Rev. Father Michael Shanbour,
pastor of Ss. Peter and Paul Antiochian Orthodox Church in
Topeka, Kansas.

Greg Kopchak
It's All Relative

Good article on revival of Slovak Folk Dancing.


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Update - I ran across this interesting page giving the Our Father in a
zillion languages, including Slovak and Ruthenian and Ukrainian:

http://www.christusrex.org/www1/pater/index.html

Joe


-----Original Message-----
From: Gregory J Kopchak [mailto:greg@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 1:00 PM
To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Slovak-World] Language on Lord's Prayer Plaque


Can someone look at this "Our Father" plaque and
tell me if it is transliterated Ukrainian, Rusyn or
Church Slavonic?


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3250559773


Thanks

Greg Kopchak
www.iarelative.com

Hi! It's Church Slavic.  Notice the "daz~d" for "give", which would be
"daj" nowadays.

Since it uses "h" for "g" (as in "dolhi" instead of "dolgi" = debts),
it's a Ukrainian or Rusyn rendition, as a Russian rendition would have
kept the original "g".

Joe


-----Original Message-----
From: Gregory J Kopchak [mailto:greg@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 1:00 PM
To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Slovak-World] Language on Lord's Prayer Plaque


Can someone look at this "Our Father" plaque and
tell me if it is transliterated Ukrainian, Rusyn or
Church Slavonic?


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3250559773


Thanks

Greg Kopchak
www.iarelative.com




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What a coincidence! Andrea sent this email on the heels of Greg's
about the Our Father plaque.  "Zuzana Ocenasova" of course is Susan
OurFather!

Joe


-----Original Message-----
From: Andrea Vangor [mailto:drav@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 1:46 PM
To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Slovak-World] Folk Dance

Good article on revival of Slovak Folk Dancing.

>
> The Slovak Two-Step
> by Zuzana Ocenasova

In a message dated 11/5/2003 11:53:43 AM Central Standard Time,
greg@... writes:
> The Slovak Heritage Association
> of The Laurel Highlands
> P.O. Box 203
> Johnstown PA, 15907-0203
>
Is this an annual event?  I'm down here in at the tip of Texas on the border
of Mexico.  The house is up for sale.  When it sells we are moving to the
Pittsburgh area. (Latrobe) I feel like a cat pacing the cage.  Can't wait to get
out of here and start to enjoy all those festivals that you folks in PA and
Ohio go to.  I assume the one at Pitt is on every year, correct?

Joyce


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Igor Otcenas is the First Secretary, Culture and Science at the Slovak
Embassy in Washington, DC.

Bill Brna

On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:32:25 -0500 "Armata, Joseph R. (JArmata)"
<jarmata@...> writes:
> What a coincidence! Andrea sent this email on the heels of Greg's
> about the Our Father plaque.  "Zuzana Ocenasova" of course is Susan
> OurFather!
>
> Joe
>
>
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> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 1:46 PM
> To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Slovak-World] Folk Dance
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>
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Dear friends,

Does anyone know a good reference on Slavic mythology?  I've found only a
few web sites about Slavic mythology, and most of them seem to have some
political axe to grind.  Some related questions: How are the names of the
Slavic deities be spelled and pronounced in modern Slovak?  Does anyone know
of any Slovak Christmas traditions that have their origins in Slavic
mythology?

After having been subscribed to this list for some time now, I know these
questions are unusual, and I hope I'm not out of line for asking them.  It's
just that I don't know where else I could go to ask these questions.

For those who are wondering why I'm interested in this matter: I grew up
knowing that I was adopted, but I was told most of my life that I was part
Slovenian.  Now, at 25, I've learned that I'm part Slovak--not Slovenian.
Needless to say, I'm very angry about this error.  (Nothing against people
from Slovenia--I'd be just as angry if I'd been told I was Slovak when I was
really Slovenian.  The point is that I was misinformed about what little I
know concerning my biological self, and this was no doubt due to typical US
ignorance about all things relating to Eastern Europe.)  Anyway, I've
decided to turn this anger into something positive and find out everything I
can about being Slovak.  I've decided to start with Slovak mythology and
language, since I've always been interested in religion and linguistics.

So, again, I'm looking for a book or some other kind of reference concerning
Slavic mythology, including traditions that survive in the modern
celebration of Christmas.  Any help whatsoever will be greatly appreciated.

CF

At 05:57 PM 11/5/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>Igor Otcenas is the First Secretary, Culture and Science at the Slovak
>Embassy in Washington, DC.
>
>Bill Brna

Any Bohorodicedivova out there?

Janko


>On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:32:25 -0500 "Armata, Joseph R. (JArmata)"
><jarmata@...> writes:
> > What a coincidence! Andrea sent this email on the heels of Greg's
> > about the Our Father plaque.  "Zuzana Ocenasova" of course is Susan
> > OurFather!
> >
> > Joe
> >
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> > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 1:46 PM
> > To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Slovak-World] Folk Dance
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In a message dated 11/5/03 1:07:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,
greg@... writes:

> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3250559773
>

Hi Greg,
That is a real interesting plaque.  I put "Lukavaho" into the google search
engine because i wanted to see what language said that for "Amen"
this prayer or information came back.  also they spelled Chleb as chlib, same
as the plaque.  can you read this??:


Výsledok: zvítazilo HZDS

V sobotu je velký sviatok – Nanebovstúpenie Panny Márie. Z miestneho
pravoslávneho kostola sa ozýva modlitba: ,,Otce naš, iže jesi na nebesich,
da
svjatitsja imja Tvoje. Da príjdet carstvíje Tvoje. Da budet vola tvoja, jako
na
nebesi, i na zemli. Chlib naš nasušcnyj dažd nam dnes. I odstavi nam dolhi
naše,
jakože i my ostavlajem dolžnikom našim. I ne vvedi nas vo iskušeníje, no
izbavi nas ot lukavaho...“


the other entry for lukavaho was regarding Greek Orthodox.

best wishes,
Noreen





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

"Lukavaho" doesn't mean "amen", it means "evil".

Helen


Helen Fedor
European Division
Library of Congress
10 E. First St., S.E.
Washington, D.C.   20540-4830
tel. (202) 707-3704
fax (202) 707-8482
>>> krejc@... 11/05/03 6:41 PM >>>
In a message dated 11/5/03 1:07:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,
greg@... writes:

> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3250559773
>

Hi Greg,
That is a real interesting plaque.  I put "Lukavaho" into the google search
engine because i wanted to see what language said that for "Amen"
this prayer or information came back.  also they spelled Chleb as chlib, same
as the plaque.  can you read this??:


Výsledok: zvítazilo HZDS

V sobotu je velký sviatok * Nanebovstúpenie Panny Márie. Z miestneho
pravoslávneho kostola sa ozýva modlitba: ,,Otce na¹, i¾e jesi na nebesich, da
svjatitsja imja Tvoje. Da príjdet carstvíje Tvoje. Da budet vola tvoja, jako na
nebesi, i na zemli. Chlib na¹ nasu¹cnyj da¾d nam dnes. I odstavi nam dolhi na¹e,
jako¾e i my ostavlajem dol¾nikom na¹im. I ne vvedi nas vo isku¹eníje, no
izbavi nas ot lukavaho..."


the other entry for lukavaho was regarding Greek Orthodox.

best wishes,
Noreen





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If you open your inet browser of choice and type in www.google.com (or click on
this link) and then search "Slovak
mythology" or "Slavic mythology" (without the quotes) it will produce a rather
large number of hits that you can choose
from to explore. Everything from books to dictionaries to web sites.  It even
produced an Ebay Store for items being
sold by "It's All Relative".


______________________________________________________

Ever Wonder ?

__ bill kollar




----- Original Message -----
   From: Fan de Condorcet
   To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 6:04 PM
   Subject: [Slovak-World] My Roots


   Dear friends,

   Does anyone know a good reference on Slavic mythology?  I've found only a
   few web sites about Slavic mythology, and most of them seem to have some
   political axe to grind.  Some related questions: How are the names of the
   Slavic deities be spelled and pronounced in modern Slovak?  Does anyone know
   of any Slovak Christmas traditions that have their origins in Slavic
   mythology?


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Helen,
it does look more like evil than amen.
Noreen


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

The paperback version of "Slavic Mythology" is now
running 2 years late.

Hope they can get it published in the near future.

Slovak and Slavic publishing in America is a risky
business.

About the only "best seller" in the last few years was
"Year of the Frog" - a novel translated from the Slovak
original.

Greg Kopchak
It's All Relative



-----Original Message-----
From: William Kollar [mailto:wkollar@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 6:27 PM
To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] My Roots


If you open your inet browser of choice and type in www.google.com (or click
on this link) and then search "Slovak
mythology" or "Slavic mythology" (without the quotes) it will produce a
rather large number of hits that you can choose
from to explore. Everything from books to dictionaries to web sites.  It
even produced an Ebay Store for items being
sold by "It's All Relative".


______________________________________________________

Ever Wonder ?

__ bill kollar




----- Original Message -----
   From: Fan de Condorcet
   To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 6:04 PM
   Subject: [Slovak-World] My Roots


   Dear friends,

   Does anyone know a good reference on Slavic mythology?  I've found only a
   few web sites about Slavic mythology, and most of them seem to have some
   political axe to grind.  Some related questions: How are the names of the
   Slavic deities be spelled and pronounced in modern Slovak?  Does anyone
know
   of any Slovak Christmas traditions that have their origins in Slavic
   mythology?


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Greg,

Many thanks for the helpful response.

Regarding _Slavic Mythology_, I can't even find this title on the web.  But if I
should find it, is it, in your opinion, worth the price of the hardcover
edition?

"Slovak and Slavic publishing in America is a risky business"?  Is that because
there are few interested consumers in the US?

I've added _Year of the Frog_ to my wish list.  Maybe someday soon . . .

Thanks again for the help.

CF
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Gregory J Kopchak
   To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 7:16 PM
   Subject: RE: [Slovak-World] My Roots


   The paperback version of "Slavic Mythology" is now
   running 2 years late.

   Hope they can get it published in the near future.

   Slovak and Slavic publishing in America is a risky
   business.

   About the only "best seller" in the last few years was
   "Year of the Frog" - a novel translated from the Slovak
   original.

   Greg Kopchak
   It's All Relative


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Bill,

Thank you for replying, but I'm looking for more specific information.
Perhaps I wasn't clear in my last message, but as I tried to express, I know
how to search the Web--it's just that the information I've found so far
hasn't been very useful.

As I said, much of the information I've found seems to be written by someone
who has a political axe to grind.  (For example, there are some sites that
include quite a few goddesses in the Slavic pantheon, but there are others
who exclude said goddesses and say that the pantheon was composed primarily
of male deities.)  As far as the other sites I've found go, they don't
provide any information about how to separate the gold from the dross in the
study of Slavic mythology.

I've spent quite a bit of time informally studying the archeology of the
Middle East (specifically, Bible archeology), and I've learned the hard way
that it's best not to pick up one book and think it has all the answers.
This time around, I'd like to talk to someone more knoweledgeable than I and
find out the various disputes that relate to learning about Slavic mythology
and the principles each side uses to arrive at its conclusions.  But so far
I haven't found much help in this regard.

Ever hopeful,
CF

----- Original Message -----
From: William Kollar
To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] My Roots


If you open your inet browser of choice and type in www.google.com (or click
on this link) and then search "Slovak
mythology" or "Slavic mythology" (without the quotes) it will produce a
rather large number of hits that you can choose
from to explore. Everything from books to dictionaries to web sites.  It
even produced an Ebay Store for items being
sold by "It's All Relative".


______________________________________________________

Ever Wonder ?

__ bill kollar

Liechtenstein will sign EEA agreement
-------------------------------------
Liechtenstein has said it will sign the agreement on an expanded
European Economic Area despite its earlier refusal to do so because of
open disputes with the Czech Republic and Slovakia. Lichtenstein threw
a damper on hopes of creating a large area of free trade, finance and
travel in Europe, when it walked away from the agreement a few weeks
ago. Norway and Iceland also refused to sign in a show of solidarity.
The refusal came after the Czech Republic and Liechtenstein crossed
swords over sensitive SWW issues. Liechtenstein demanded that the Czech
Republic open the door to property claims by its citizens relating to
past confiscation of land and property - a demand that Prague refused
to comply with. Liechtenstein said on Wednesday that it did not want to
block progress on European integration and would sign the agreement,
along with Norway and Iceland. Its officials have stressed however that
this does not signify any change in position regarding the unresolved
SWW issues.

Dear CF,

What about the website:


<A
HREF="http://www.bolchazy.com/prod.php?cat=slovak&id=5033">http://www.bolchazy.c\
om/prod.php?cat=slovak&id=5033</A>

you may want to try Bolchazy Books for Slovak topics.  if what you seek is
not listed here, maybe they have a catalogue.
Noreen


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hello,
It seems to me you're looking for an "obscure" enough topic (globally
speaking) that you'll need to head to a big public library, a research
library or a used book vendor.  You might want to start by perusing the
online catlogs of US libraries at Harvard University, Stanford or New
York Public Library (the ones I'm most familiar with), just to see what
is available.  Harvard has a second-to-none Slavic Studies program with
an incredible book collection.  Both libraries contain international
collections and are multi-lingual.  What languages can you read?  I
think you will find most of the substantive material of these topic is
written in a non-English language.

A good link that ties together all the US-based collections is
http://www.nyu.edu/library/bobst/research/soc/slav/slavs.htm#libraries

http://www.nyu.edu/library/bobst/research/soc/slav/

Then once you find books of interest, try looking at the large libraries
near you for these titles.  The large libraries, including public,
private and university collections usually have an inter-library loan
program for researchers (consider yourself one.)  You will need to call
upon the skills of your local library's reference librarian to make the
request.  The reference librarian will need to make the request certify
that s/he has exhausted all local resources.  The actual terms of loan
vary from library to library.

I would also suggest getting involved in certain research-based groups
(and posing your questions there) such as:
American Association for the Advancement of Slavic Studies
http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~aaass/
The Early Slavic Studies Association
http://clover.slavic.pitt.edu/~essa/

Good Luck,
Bill Tarkulich

-----Original Message-----
From: Fan de Condorcet [mailto:condorcetfan@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 6:04 PM
To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Slovak-World] My Roots


Dear friends,

Does anyone know a good reference on Slavic mythology?  I've found only
a few web sites about Slavic mythology, and most of them seem to have
some political axe to grind.  Some related questions: How are the names
of the Slavic deities be spelled and pronounced in modern Slovak?  Does
anyone know of any Slovak Christmas traditions that have their origins
in Slavic mythology?

After having been subscribed to this list for some time now, I know
these questions are unusual, and I hope I'm not out of line for asking
them.  It's just that I don't know where else I could go to ask these
questions.

For those who are wondering why I'm interested in this matter: I grew up
knowing that I was adopted, but I was told most of my life that I was
part Slovenian.  Now, at 25, I've learned that I'm part Slovak--not
Slovenian. Needless to say, I'm very angry about this error.  (Nothing
against people from Slovenia--I'd be just as angry if I'd been told I
was Slovak when I was really Slovenian.  The point is that I was
misinformed about what little I know concerning my biological self, and
this was no doubt due to typical US ignorance about all things relating
to Eastern Europe.)  Anyway, I've decided to turn this anger into
something positive and find out everything I can about being Slovak.
I've decided to start with Slovak mythology and language, since I've
always been interested in religion and linguistics.

So, again, I'm looking for a book or some other kind of reference
concerning Slavic mythology, including traditions that survive in the
modern celebration of Christmas.  Any help whatsoever will be greatly
appreciated.

CF



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Hello everyone,
Well it looks like our beloved land of our forefathers, is now becoming
more like America. I guess we call this...PROGRESS!
This is sad because my Slovak email buddy loves the land and loves planting
on it. Here is what is probably going to happen to the land he uses as a
garden.

But I could have some troubles because certain people have interest to take
substantial part of my garden. Behind this group is also mayor of our
village who would like to buy for a low price the soil and sell it for the
price 150 times larger to people who would like to build there apartment
house. This action could bring these people large profits. I hope I can
defend my garden. The private property is undetachable even according to
our Constitution

We all know, you can't stop progress, especially if someone is going to
make a lot of money on the project. I see this happening all over America.
Dave Kuchta

I mentioned used booksellers.  To elaborate:
A great consortium of used booksellers is found at www.abebooks.com
You will find a number of copies of "Year of the Frog" available.
Also, do a keyword search on "slavic" and "myth" you will find a number
of publications.
I have used this service at least a dozen vendors worldwide and have had
fantastic success and never a problem.  Worth the wait and the price is
right.

Sometimes a wider search based on geographic, rather than ethnic
criteria can be more productive.  "Hungary" "Austria" "Bohemia"
"Romania" and so on.  While the books may not have as much focus,
sometimes you find the tidbits you are looking for buried in a few
pages.  I just went through a similar search looking for info on Soviet
military operations in Slovakia in 1944.  Looking for battles in
Slovakia in 1944 was of little fruit.  Taking the search to a more
global level, for example, "Ukrainian Front", yielded better results.

Bill Tarkulich

-----Original Message-----
From: Fan de Condorcet [mailto:condorcetfan@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 12:08 AM
To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] My Roots


Greg,

Many thanks for the helpful response.

Regarding _Slavic Mythology_, I can't even find this title on the web.
But if I should find it, is it, in your opinion, worth the price of the
hardcover edition?

"Slovak and Slavic publishing in America is a risky business"?  Is that
because there are few interested consumers in the US?

I've added _Year of the Frog_ to my wish list.  Maybe someday soon . . .

Thanks again for the help.

CF
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Gregory J Kopchak
   To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 7:16 PM
   Subject: RE: [Slovak-World] My Roots


   The paperback version of "Slavic Mythology" is now
   running 2 years late.

   Hope they can get it published in the near future.

   Slovak and Slavic publishing in America is a risky
   business.

   About the only "best seller" in the last few years was
   "Year of the Frog" - a novel translated from the Slovak
   original.

   Greg Kopchak
   It's All Relative


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Hi: This morning I picked up my morning newspaper and saw where a doctor,
about 8 nurses, a pharmacist etc. were arrested for selling prescription
drugs. It seems the doctor gave out prescriptions to anyone and everyone.
He also gave them out big time to certain people who got addicted to them.
I don't see anymore advertisements on the email messages for prescription
drugs where you didn't need a prescription because they had one on the
premises. Just maybe, this is the outfit that I was getting all the spam to
buy prescription drugs. Any way it's nice not getting all that junk and all
the porno stuff.
Dave

Yes, Dave.  If I responded to every spam message that promised to "increase
my length", and they worked...I'd be able to reel this thing out from here
to Los Angeles.  Nothing like advancing technology and the result of same.

Paul






> Hi: This morning I picked up my morning newspaper and saw where a doctor,
> about 8 nurses, a pharmacist etc. were arrested for selling prescription
> drugs. It seems the doctor gave out prescriptions to anyone and everyone.
> He also gave them out big time to certain people who got addicted to them.
> I don't see anymore advertisements on the email messages for prescription
> drugs where you didn't need a prescription because they had one on the
> premises. Just maybe, this is the outfit that I was getting all the spam
to
> buy prescription drugs. Any way it's nice not getting all that junk and
all
> the porno stuff.
> Dave

Hi Paul,
Last Spring you posted a wonderful recipe that featured pork, with wine, and
kraut and juniper berries. Two weekends ago, I made your recipe in the crock
pot-and it was wonderful! I made bread, and my family loved it! Thanks so
much for a wonderful fall meal-
Alyssa

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul J. Wolsko" <pwolsko@...>
To: <Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 5:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Spam


> Yes, Dave.  If I responded to every spam message that promised to
"increase
> my length", and they worked...I'd be able to reel this thing out from here
> to Los Angeles.  Nothing like advancing technology and the result of same.
>
> Paul
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi: This morning I picked up my morning newspaper and saw where a
doctor,
> > about 8 nurses, a pharmacist etc. were arrested for selling prescription
> > drugs. It seems the doctor gave out prescriptions to anyone and
everyone.
> > He also gave them out big time to certain people who got addicted to
them.
> > I don't see anymore advertisements on the email messages for
prescription
> > drugs where you didn't need a prescription because they had one on the
> > premises. Just maybe, this is the outfit that I was getting all the spam
> to
> > buy prescription drugs. Any way it's nice not getting all that junk and
> all
> > the porno stuff.
> > Dave
>
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Paul, I'm glad that someone else got this same message because I was
starting to get a little paranoid. If I  would have been about 16, not make
that 14 years of age I would have bought a ton of the stuff. Nothing like
being KING of the mountain. Yes, in my dreams!
I don't get anymore of those ads. I don't know if its all the words I put
in my filter that is doing it or they got taken off the Internet. Are you
still getting that particular spam?
Bashful Dave

At 05:56 PM 11/6/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>Yes, Dave.  If I responded to every spam message that promised to "increase
>my length", and they worked...I'd be able to reel this thing out from here
>to Los Angeles.  Nothing like advancing technology and the result of same.
>
>Paul
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi: This morning I picked up my morning newspaper and saw where a doctor,
> > about 8 nurses, a pharmacist etc. were arrested for selling prescription
> > drugs. It seems the doctor gave out prescriptions to anyone and everyone.
> > He also gave them out big time to certain people who got addicted to them.
> > I don't see anymore advertisements on the email messages for prescription
> > drugs where you didn't need a prescription because they had one on the
> > premises. Just maybe, this is the outfit that I was getting all the spam
>to
> > buy prescription drugs. Any way it's nice not getting all that junk and
>all
> > the porno stuff.
> > Dave
>
>
>
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Which reminds me of the question, where the Russian official newspaper
Pravda asked Radio Erewan, whether the sex on dictance is possible. The
answer was:" In principle yes, but the length must be greater than the
distance."
Vladimir

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul J. Wolsko" <pwolsko@...>
To: <Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 11:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Spam


> Yes, Dave.  If I responded to every spam message that promised to
"increase
> my length", and they worked...I'd be able to reel this thing out from here
> to Los Angeles.  Nothing like advancing technology and the result of same.
>
> Paul
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi: This morning I picked up my morning newspaper and saw where a
doctor,
> > about 8 nurses, a pharmacist etc. were arrested for selling prescription
> > drugs. It seems the doctor gave out prescriptions to anyone and
everyone.
> > He also gave them out big time to certain people who got addicted to
them.
> > I don't see anymore advertisements on the email messages for
prescription
> > drugs where you didn't need a prescription because they had one on the
> > premises. Just maybe, this is the outfit that I was getting all the spam
> to
> > buy prescription drugs. Any way it's nice not getting all that junk and
> all
> > the porno stuff.
> > Dave
>
>
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Vlad,

we tell this story to show the difference between how scientists and
engineers apply science and theory:

First place a scientist and an engineer side by side in a room, and
attractive people of the opposite sex at the other side of the room.  Then
you allow them to cross half the distance and stop, and again half the
remaining distance and stop.  Continue this routine ... and the scientist
will give up in frustration since he knows he will never reach the
beautiful lady on the other side of the room, because mathmatically there
will always be some remaining distance between him and the lady.

At the same time the engineer will happily proceed no matter how big the
room is to start.  She knows that while the distance will never be zero, it
will become small enough for all practical purposes.


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Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:57:21 +0100
To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Spam


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Which reminds me of the question, where the Russian official newspaper<BR>
Pravda asked Radio Erewan, whether the sex on dictance is possible. The<BR>
answer was:" In principle yes, but the length must be greater than the<BR>
distance."<BR>
Vladimir<BR>
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And I was wondering why I sometimes, when applying scientifical methods of
approach, I never have made it into a negative distance.
Now I know.:-)
Thanks,
Vladimir

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Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Spam


> Vlad,
>
> we tell this story to show the difference between how scientists and
> engineers apply science and theory:
>
> First place a scientist and an engineer side by side in a room, and
> attractive people of the opposite sex at the other side of the room.  Then
> you allow them to cross half the distance and stop, and again half the
> remaining distance and stop.  Continue this routine ... and the scientist
> will give up in frustration since he knows he will never reach the
> beautiful lady on the other side of the room, because mathmatically there
> will always be some remaining distance between him and the lady.
>
> At the same time the engineer will happily proceed no matter how big the
> room is to start.  She knows that while the distance will never be zero,
it
> will become small enough for all practical purposes.
>
>
> Original Message:
> -----------------
> Wrom: DREXCAXZOWCONEUQZAAFXISHJEXXIMQZU
> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:57:21 +0100
> To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Slovak-World] Spam
>
>
> <html><body>
>
>
> <tt>
> Which reminds me of the question, where the Russian official newspaper<BR>
> Pravda asked Radio Erewan, whether the sex on dictance is possible.
The<BR>
> answer was:" In principle yes, but the length must be greater than the<BR>
> distance."<BR>
> Vladimir<BR>
> <BR>
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Yes, I get hundreds of them per day, and it isn't like I'm encouraging it by
visiting porno sites.  I can delete very quickly, however.

Paul


> Paul, I'm glad that someone else got this same message because I was
> starting to get a little paranoid. If I  would have been about 16, not
make
> that 14 years of age I would have bought a ton of the stuff. Nothing like
> being KING of the mountain. Yes, in my dreams!
> I don't get anymore of those ads. I don't know if its all the words I put
> in my filter that is doing it or they got taken off the Internet. Are you
> still getting that particular spam?
> Bashful Dave

Paul,  Before opening any new mail, I went to "Special," and emptied the
trash. When I opened the new mail, I went back to "Special," and there were
three messages to trash. So my filter must be working overtime. I put so
many words in it that I know I'm missing some good legitimate mail. I had
to also filter, "Hi," from any messages with, 'Hi," in the subject matter.
To many gals, with sex in mind, were using these two letters in the subject
matter. So, if any of my friends can't think of something better then "Hi,"
then its garbage-can-heaven for the messages.
At this point, I'm one step ahead of the porno queens, but probably not for
long.
Dave
At 07:10 AM 11/7/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>Yes, I get hundreds of them per day, and it isn't like I'm encouraging it by
>visiting porno sites.  I can delete very quickly, however.
>
>Paul
>
>
> > Paul, I'm glad that someone else got this same message because I was
> > starting to get a little paranoid. If I  would have been about 16, not
>make
> > that 14 years of age I would have bought a ton of the stuff. Nothing like
> > being KING of the mountain. Yes, in my dreams!
> > I don't get anymore of those ads. I don't know if its all the words I put
> > in my filter that is doing it or they got taken off the Internet. Are you
> > still getting that particular spam?
> > Bashful Dave
>
>
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