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Dear all, I have just introduced a new online service on the Sejarah Melayu website that will provide you with a musical journey to the culture and history of...
I wonder if anyone has anything to say about Blagden's notion that there was a Khmer colony in southern Perak in ancient times. Being sudah tua dan sudah...
rkdentan
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May 21, 2003 4:44 pm
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Sory... testing.. ... From: Sejarah-Melayu@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, May 22, 2003 12:45:49 AM To: Sejarah-Melayu@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Sejarah...
Muhamad Sophian
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May 22, 2003 5:50 am
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Hi everyone, I am searching for information on Princess Hang Li Poh. From my research, all I seem to find is the basic tourist information: Princess Hang Li...
... No, it was definitely not Yongle. Mansur Shah reigned from 1459 to 1477. The Ming chronicles record that 'Su-tan Wang-Su-Sha' as sent envoys bringing...
... What is the fable about Putri Gunung Ledang? Regards JayBee But Puteri Li Po she was definitely a wife - she was an ... Malay Peninsula'...
JayBee
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May 22, 2003 10:28 am
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serupa saya juga...
rkdentan
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May 22, 2003 12:44 pm
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oh,oh, I know that one! (finally sth that I can say sth about ;)) But since most people on the list here would know the fable very well, I'd better tread...
Ahmad Fazurin Jamaludin
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May 22, 2003 7:49 pm
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... Indeed, there is no mention in the Sejarah Melayu of the origins of the fabled princess. She first comes up in conversation in the book when the Sultan...
Two sen worth... Though the origins of Puteri Gunung Ledang is more fabulous than historical, what is now northern Johor was in the 15C part of the Melaka...
Adlan Benan Omar
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May 23, 2003 2:20 am
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Thanks! ... I actually picked up 1469 from several of the touristy websites, including a website about Melaka. But if you ask me for the specific page, don't...
Just a short addition: The Chinese court records of the Ming record no examples of members of the ruling family marrying anyone in Southeast Asia. Hang Li Po...
gwade
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May 23, 2003 4:42 am
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... Mel, two good places to start would be - The Peranakan Legacy at http://baba.demo.kmu.edu.tw/1e.html The Peranakan Association at...
... And let me further confuse matters by reminding us of the Hikayat Hang Tuah, which mentions Puteri Gunung Ledang as actually being the Sultan's daughter,...
Saya sudah lama ingin mengetahui SEJARAH GANGGA NEGARA,sebuah kerajaan purba yang wujud dalam negeri PERAK,Malaysia. Puncanya ialah saya diberitahu bahawa...
... Zulela, You're in luck. I just returned from Malaysia a few weeks ago (my first time back in over four years!) and managed to do a whirlwind tour of quite...
your contribution geoff is much more than a short addition. I remember reading elsewhere that there was indeed no records of any such wedding between a chinese...
gilles massot
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May 27, 2003 2:42 am
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The recent coronation of Sultan Sharafuddin Idris Shah showed him as donning a cape and wearing a crown. My limited knowledge says that these are not part of...
Salim Ahmed
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May 27, 2003 3:38 am
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It is perfectly understandable to be sceptical of the stories of Hang Li Po - in fact various versions of the Sejarah Melayu do not mention the name Hang Li Po...
Adlan Benan Omar
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May 27, 2003 4:01 am
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Hi, IMHO, the cape is probably new c. 1961, as it was worn by Sultan Salahuddin Abdul Aziz Shah (1960-2001) at his coronation but not by the previous sultans. ...
Adlan Benan Omar
adlanbenan@...
May 27, 2003 4:09 am
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My two sen's worth on the wearing of crowns by Malay kings. Sejarah Melayu mentioned that Sang Nila Utama wore a crown and that he carried this crown with him...
Fazurin Jamaludin
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May 27, 2003 5:57 am
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Sdr Fazurin et al, May I give a small comment on Fazurin's interesting note: The "crown" or "mahkota" worn by Sang Nila Utama (later Sri Tri Buana) is a bit of...
Adlan Benan Omar
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May 27, 2003 7:36 am
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Thank you Fazurin and Adlan for the very interesting commentaries. Let's keep that flowing... It is interesting to note the seemingly universal attribution of...
Salim Ahmed
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May 27, 2003 9:37 am
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indeed you are right Adlan. Far from claiming Bugis descent, the contemporary Johor sultanate was in fact inaugurated as a reaction AGAINST the rising power of...
gilles massot
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May 28, 2003 10:18 am
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Yet the Sultan has officially denied being Malay....
rkdentan
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May 28, 2003 12:58 pm
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... Hi, Sabri. I had no problems with the sound or with skipping in something like 15 minutes of listening over a 56K connection which is really more like...
Michael
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May 29, 2003 12:58 am
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To add to Adlan's comments on Nobat... The origin of the Kedah Nobat as recounted by one Encik Hanapi bin Muhammad Ariff, a leader in a chain of leaders of the...
Salim Ahmed
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May 29, 2003 8:43 am
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Saudara Adlan Benan, Gilles, and others, Thank you for the very interesting comments, especially on the subject of the non-Buginese descent of the current...
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