Good to have the info on National Jamboree.  Thanks.
We'll be working you from here in Maine as WJ0TA /1

Some news from here in Maine:

This past fall I was asked to teach at an annual
"merit badge college" ... basically a night per week
for four weeks...  and there are several different
merit badge offerings.
As an experiment, I offered Radio Merit Badge with the
understanding that we'd also be going for Technician
Class licenses, and that Dad's or Mom's were highly
encouraged to go for it with their son's.

We got 7 boys and 6 Dads!...  We carried over a
few extra nights+an all day affair for JOTA weekend.

So far, the course netted 4 new hams (2 dads+2 scouts).
and most all the scouts got their merit badge.   The others
are hams just about ready to be born.

Its a great thing to do for Scouts and Dads... for all
kinds of reasons.   Its something they can enjoy
together, and it helps financially to have the Dad
into it also.

Congrats to:
KB1YFO - Del Cass
KB1YFP - Dana Baer
KB1YFQ - Andrew Baer
KB1YFR - Alex French

Antennas, power supplies etc are being donated
to get them on the air, and we also had a special
VE session for the course attendees.

A club callsign has been issued:  WJ0TA ...
For all these scouts, dads, VE's, and donors.
((No web page yet))
... another course is scheduled for this Spring.

We also show up at Camp Hinds (Raymond ME)
one night per week to do some HF and introduction
to the hobby with the boys who are there for one
week stints all summer long.  (ARRL Section Mgr
N1KAT and I do this.)

Without a Novice class, my findings are that
motivated 12+ year olds can handle the Technician
Class license... and online tests (like those at QRZ.com)
are the best thing to help them out.... besides an
enthusiastic instructor.

Basically the experiment to see if the course
format as described would work...  It did... I consider
it a big success... recommended for other communities.

Building relationships with the Scouts and their Dads,
the educational benefits, all the benefits of emergency
preparedness, and community service make Scouting
and Amatuer Radio go together extremely well.
We gotta do more with this!

73 N1RY -  Ray Sirois

I am contemplating taking my new HF rig to the upcoming Boy Scout
winter camp.  I have only been on the HF bands for a few months now,
but have been a Scouter for years. I am wandering how to make radio
fun for scouts. I have seen several suggestions for JOTA events, but
his camp will be different. First, radio will just be a small add on.
Second, it will be COLD! Third, there will not be thousands of other
scouts on the air that weekend.

Should I just get a few scouts around the radio, call CQ, and see what
happens? If I publicize my anticipated operating times and frequencies
can I expect more contacts? How should I get the boys involved?

Jeff
AD9T

Jeff, use the JOTA frequencies if possible, and also try to join one of
the Scout nets (I'm not sure how active they are since I'm not on HF at
present).  Most of the Scout nets are on Sunday and may be too late for
your trip.  Also check the net directory for any kids nets.  I'd give
you the URL for the list of Scout nets, but due to a computer failure I
lost a few hundred bookmarks and emails last month.  Perhaps someone
else on the list can help us both!
YIS
Dave, WA1ZCN

>    Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 18:20:27 -0000
>    From: jeffhburns@...
> Subject: radio at winter camp
>
> I am contemplating taking my new HF rig to the upcoming Boy Scout
> winter camp.  I have only been on the HF bands for a few months now,
> but have been a Scouter for years. I am wandering how to make radio
> fun for scouts. I have seen several suggestions for JOTA events, but
> his camp will be different. First, radio will just be a small add on.
> Second, it will be COLD! Third, there will not be thousands of other
> scouts on the air that weekend.
>
> Should I just get a few scouts around the radio, call CQ, and see what
> happens? If I publicize my anticipated operating times and frequencies
> can I expect more contacts? How should I get the boys involved?
>
> Jeff
> AD9T
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________

Jeff:

I've been trying to do some amateur radio missionary work with my troop
as well.  I just recently upgraded to my General license so most of my
experience has been as a Technician but the same principles apply.  By
all means publish your frequencies an operating times to this list.  This
will increase your chances of getting some scouters to respond to you who
will be able to engage the boys in scout related conversation.  Secondly
find the repeater that is local to where you will be camping and take a 2
meter radio along.  If the HF bands are dead for some reason you will
still have local hams on the repeater who will be eager to talk with the
boys.  We did this at a Jambo 2 years ago and the conversations were
really great.  In addition to radio and scouting, the hams talked about
their other hobbies and interests with the boys, demonstrating what well
rounder individuals hams really are.  Finally, the autopatch is always a
crowd pleaser.   Good luck

Jim Mahoney
KB3BYU
ASM troop 107 Alentown, PA


On Sun, 14 Jan 2001 18:20:27 -0000 jeffhburns@... writes:
> I am contemplating taking my new HF rig to the upcoming Boy Scout
> winter camp.  I have only been on the HF bands for a few months now,
>
> but have been a Scouter for years. I am wandering how to make radio
> fun for scouts. I have seen several suggestions for JOTA events, but
>
> his camp will be different. First, radio will just be a small add
> on.
> Second, it will be COLD! Third, there will not be thousands of other
>
> scouts on the air that weekend.
>
> Should I just get a few scouts around the radio, call CQ, and see
> what
> happens? If I publicize my anticipated operating times and
> frequencies
> can I expect more contacts? How should I get the boys involved?
>
> Jeff
> AD9T
>
>
>
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>

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Jeff,
Its my experience that the scouts are a lot
more comfortable talking with other scouts
or younger folks on the radio... so see if
you can orchestrate something there.

We "may" be able to set up a sched with you...?

Calling CQ is a fine backup of course... I explain
to kids (of all ages) that this is like fishing though...
You're never quite sure what you are going to catch...
and that sometimes it is harder to catch something
than other times.   This analogy works... and it kinda
gives them the same excitement when they get a
return as when they've caught their first fish.

73 de N1RY, Ray
Scout Club Call:  WJ0TA
Maine

> Message: 1
>    Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 18:20:27 -0000
>    From: jeffhburns@...
> Subject: radio at winter camp
>
> I am contemplating taking my new HF rig to the upcoming Boy Scout
> winter camp.  I have only been on the HF bands for a few months now,
> but have been a Scouter for years. I am wandering how to make radio
> fun for scouts. I have seen several suggestions for JOTA events, but
> his camp will be different. First, radio will just be a small add on.
> Second, it will be COLD! Third, there will not be thousands of other
> scouts on the air that weekend.
>
> Should I just get a few scouts around the radio, call CQ, and see what
> happens? If I publicize my anticipated operating times and frequencies
> can I expect more contacts? How should I get the boys involved?
>
> Jeff
> AD9T
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
>
>
>

K4BOY hit the air for the first timeat 11:00 AM on Saturday Jan. 20,
2001 From Camp Flying Eagle in Florida.

Congrats...

I had talked with Steve (W4SNW) about the camp radio club at the Tampa Bay
Hamfest.  How was the reaction from the campers and is this now a permanent
setup or just for those occasions when the camp sees some scheduled use?

And...is this Jim Jr. or Sr.???


Jon Pearl  W4ABC  St. Petersburg


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Woodson" <jwoodson@...>
To: <scoutradio@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 7:52 PM
Subject: [scoutradio] K4BOY


> K4BOY hit the air for the first timeat 11:00 AM on Saturday Jan. 20,
> 2001 From Camp Flying Eagle in Florida.
>
>
> SCOUTING and AMATEUR RADIO - FUN FOR ALL AGES
>
>

Hello Everyone:

My Troop will be on the air from 00:00 through 01:30 UTC on January
26,2001 using the JOTA frequencies.  We will be using the call sign of
KE3AW in Whitehall PA (grid FN20).  Let me know if you'd like to talk to
us or set up a sked.

YIS
Jim Mahoney KB3BYU
ASM Troop 107 Allentown, PA

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Hi Kerry - KK7JO:

I believe the K4BOY station is a Boy Scout HAM station on HF (they didn't
mention a frequency) on the air from Camp Flying Eagle in Florida.  You will
have to join the "scoutradio" egroup (scoutradio@egroups.com) to ask them
any details that they should have included in their original email.  Sorry
but you know all that I know about it.  I will cc the list and see if I get
a response to the HF frequency and their sched.

73 de N7TEK
John
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-----Original Message-----
From: Kerry Whittle [mailto:kk7jo@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 10:57 AM
To: jblackha@...
Subject: Re: [146620] FW: K4BOY is on the air from Camp Flying Eagle in
Florida.


John,

I don't understand the significance. Is he on HF per chance? Can I make
a contact? None of this is mentioned. Do you know any more?

Just knowing that the person is on the air is a "!*whoopie*!" for me and
not much else.

Now if I can make contact on the otherhand, I could truly get excited.
--

73 de kk7jo,

Kerry

What is UTC? in respect to like EST or PST?  I'm sorry but all these
different time zone stuff gets to be confusing.. ;)

Randy
KG6AYP
ASM Troop 773 Paradise, CA


>From: James Mahoney <jamesmahoney@...>
>Reply-To: scoutradio@egroups.com
>To: scoutradio@egroups.com
>Subject: [scoutradio] Troop 107 on the air
>Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 13:17:16 -0500
>
>Hello Everyone:
>
>My Troop will be on the air from 00:00 through 01:30 UTC on January
>26,2001 using the JOTA frequencies.  We will be using the call sign of
>KE3AW in Whitehall PA (grid FN20).  Let me know if you'd like to talk to
>us or set up a sked.
>
>YIS
>Jim Mahoney KB3BYU
>ASM Troop 107 Allentown, PA
>
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Hi,
It is  Universal Time Coordinated.  Sometimes called GMT or Zulu, but I
think
there is a difference, but I am not sure exactly what.  So they will
be on the air from 7:00 - 8:30 EST.

I will try to be there, which bands?

-darryl WA1GON


> -----Original Message-----
> From: KG6AYP Randy [mailto:KG6AYP@...]
> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 0:56 AM
> To: scoutradio@egroups.com
> Subject: Re: [scoutradio] Troop 107 on the air
>
>
> What is UTC? in respect to like EST or PST?  I'm sorry but all these
> different time zone stuff gets to be confusing.. ;)
>
> Randy
> KG6AYP
> ASM Troop 773 Paradise, CA
>
>
> >From: James Mahoney <jamesmahoney@...>
> >Reply-To: scoutradio@egroups.com
> >To: scoutradio@egroups.com
> >Subject: [scoutradio] Troop 107 on the air
> >Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 13:17:16 -0500
> >
> >Hello Everyone:
> >
> >My Troop will be on the air from 00:00 through 01:30 UTC on January
> >26,2001 using the JOTA frequencies.  We will be using the call sign of
> >KE3AW in Whitehall PA (grid FN20).  Let me know if you'd like to talk to
> >us or set up a sked.
> >
> >YIS
> >Jim Mahoney KB3BYU
> >ASM Troop 107 Allentown, PA
> >
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Randy:

UTC stands for Universal Coordinated Time or what is commonly known as
Greenwich Mean Time.  It is 5 hours ahead of EST so 7:00 PM Thursday EST
is 00:00 Friday UTC.  UTC is used to remove the confusion of different
time zones and daylight savings time.  As long as you know your local
time in relation to UTC you can set up a sked with anyone in the world
and know  you will both be there at the same time.

JIm


On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 21:56:11 -0800 "KG6AYP Randy" <KG6AYP@...>
writes:
> What is UTC? in respect to like EST or PST?  I'm sorry but all these
> different time zone stuff gets to be confusing.. ;)
>
> Randy
> KG6AYP
> ASM Troop 773 Paradise, CA
>
>
> >From: James Mahoney <jamesmahoney@...>
> >Reply-To: scoutradio@egroups.com
> >To: scoutradio@egroups.com
> >Subject: [scoutradio] Troop 107 on the air
> >Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 13:17:16 -0500
> >
> >Hello Everyone:
> >
> >My Troop will be on the air from 00:00 through 01:30 UTC on January
> >26,2001 using the JOTA frequencies.  We will be using the call sign
> of
> >KE3AW in Whitehall PA (grid FN20).  Let me know if you'd like to
> talk to
> >us or set up a sked.
> >
> >YIS
> >Jim Mahoney KB3BYU
> >ASM Troop 107 Allentown, PA
> >
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We will be on one of the following JOTA phone frequencies starting around
7PM EST on Thursday January 25.  Hope to hear you there.

80 meters  3.740 / 3.940 MHz
  40 meters   7.270 MHz
  20 meters   14.290 MHz
  17 meters   18.140 MHz
  15 meters   21.360 MHz
  12 meters   24.960 MHz
  10 meters   28.390 MHz

73
Jim Mahoney
KB3BYU


On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 06:52:47 -0500 "Darryl Wagoner" <darryl@...>
writes:
> Hi,
> It is  Universal Time Coordinated.  Sometimes called GMT or Zulu,
> but I
> think
> there is a difference, but I am not sure exactly what.  So they will
> be on the air from 7:00 - 8:30 EST.
>
> I will try to be there, which bands?
>
> -darryl WA1GON
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: KG6AYP Randy [mailto:KG6AYP@...]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 0:56 AM
> > To: scoutradio@egroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [scoutradio] Troop 107 on the air
> >
> >
> > What is UTC? in respect to like EST or PST?  I'm sorry but all
> these
> > different time zone stuff gets to be confusing.. ;)
> >
> > Randy
> > KG6AYP
> > ASM Troop 773 Paradise, CA
> >
> >
> > >From: James Mahoney <jamesmahoney@...>
> > >Reply-To: scoutradio@egroups.com
> > >To: scoutradio@egroups.com
> > >Subject: [scoutradio] Troop 107 on the air
> > >Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 13:17:16 -0500
> > >
> > >Hello Everyone:
> > >
> > >My Troop will be on the air from 00:00 through 01:30 UTC on
> January
> > >26,2001 using the JOTA frequencies.  We will be using the call
> sign of
> > >KE3AW in Whitehall PA (grid FN20).  Let me know if you'd like to
> talk to
> > >us or set up a sked.
> > >
> > >YIS
> > >Jim Mahoney KB3BYU
> > >ASM Troop 107 Allentown, PA
> > >
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Jim wrote:

Just about.  Greenwich Mean Time (GMT) was the previous international time
standard.  In 1970, the International Telecommunications Union (ITU)
adopted Coordinated Universal Time as the standard.  Needing a Three Letter
Acronym (TLA) for this standard, the ITU tried to figure out what to use.
Here's the story from the Web site of the U. S. National Institute of
Standards and Technology:

      http://www.boulder.nist.gov/timefreq/general/misc.htm

> Why is UTC used as the acronym for Coordinated
> Universal Time instead of CUT?
>
> In 1970 the Coordinated Universal Time system
> was devised by an international advisory group
> of technical experts within the International
> Telecommunication Union (ITU). The ITU felt it
> was best to designate a single abbreviation for
> use in all languages in order to minimize
> confusion. Since unanimous agreement could not
> be achieved on using either the English word
> order, CUT, or the French word order, TUC, the
> acronym UTC was chosen as a compromise.

There's a lot of information on that site about time, time zones, time
standards, and other fun stuff.  For your reference, the differences
between UTC and the local time zones in the US are:

Zone      Standard  Daylight Savings
----      --------  ----------------
Atlantic  UTC - 4      UTC - 3
Eastern   UTC - 5      UTC - 4
Central   UTC - 6      UTC - 5
Mountain  UTC - 7      UTC - 6
Pacific   UTC - 8      UTC - 7
Alaska    UTC - 9      UTC - 8
Hawaii    UTC - 10     UTC - 9

You can find a nice tables for converting between UTC and local time at the
U. S. Naval Observatory site at:

      http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/zones.html

And, of course, there ought to be all kinds of material here for scouts
needing information for merit badges...

                     - - Steve, KE1KF

>What is UTC? in respect to like EST or PST?  I'm sorry but all these
>different time zone stuff gets to be confusing.. ;)

http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/zones.html

The world in broken into 24 time zones so that sunrise/set is fairly
consistant with the local landscape. UTC is the baseline time in one of
those zones, with 23 offsets for (usually in 1 hour increments) to get to
the other time zones.

UTC is a standard that does not jump around (ie: standard and daylight
savings) so the table above represents both offsets in the US. In the
Eastern Time Zone, the offset will either be 4 or 5 hours, depending on if
daylight savings is in effect.

Note, the US is _behind_ UTC, so 12 noon UTC is about 5 thru 8 AM in the US
depending on where in the US you are.  So 3 AM UTC is something like 10 PM
in the US.

Find you offset (ie: 4 hours, 5 hours, etc.), and then just subtract that
number from the UTC time for your local time.

Darrell Hale, N3KTP

At 10:30 AM 1/25/01 +0000, you wrote:
>SCOUTING and AMATEUR RADIO - FUN FOR ALL AGES
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>________________________________________________________________________
>
>Message: 3
>    Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 21:56:11 -0800
>    From: "KG6AYP Randy" <KG6AYP@...>
>Subject: Re: Troop 107 on the air
>
>What is UTC? in respect to like EST or PST?  I'm sorry but all these
>different time zone stuff gets to be confusing.. ;)
>
>Randy
>KG6AYP
>ASM Troop 773 Paradise, CA
        Hi, Randy.  "UTC" is the French abbreviation for the 24 hour
Coordinated Universal Time, also known as "Zulu" or "GMT" time. Please
see:  http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/utc.html   and
http://ww2010.atmos.uiuc.edu/%28Gh%29/guides/maps/utc/def.rxml
For easy conversion from EST or PST to UTC and back again, please
see:  http://ww2010.atmos.uiuc.edu/(Gh)/guides/maps/utc/frutc.rxml

        Notice the "-0800" at the end of the "Date:" line of your message
above? That indicates 8 hours difference between Pacific Standard Time and
UTC. Here in Boston where I am, EST, the difference is -0500 hours. You can
think of it this way: London, England has their sunrise 5 hours before
Boston. Boston MA has their sunrise 3 hours before Paradise CA.

        Take the UTC time announced for various events and subtract 8 hours
from that to obtain your local PST time. Just be sure to make the change
when you go to daylight savings time, PDT.   :-)

         Hope that these Web URLs will be helpful to you.

73, Arthur  N1NHZ   Boston (MA) Amateur Radio Club
ARRL EMA ARES, MaSATERN
For an informal, unofficial look at BARC:   http://aabb.eboard.com
d(:-)  Hams wearing Call Sign baseball caps  d(:-)

It's a full time setup. and this is Jim Sr.

Jim

--- In scoutradio@y..., "Jon Pearl W4ABC" <w4abc@g...> wrote:
> Congrats...
>
> I had talked with Steve (W4SNW) about the camp radio club at the
Tampa Bay
> Hamfest.  How was the reaction from the campers and is this now a
permanent
> setup or just for those occasions when the camp sees some scheduled
use?
>
> And...is this Jim Jr. or Sr.???
>
>
> Jon Pearl  W4ABC  St. Petersburg
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Woodson" <jwoodson@t...>
> To: <scoutradio@egroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 7:52 PM
> Subject: [scoutradio] K4BOY
>
>
> > K4BOY hit the air for the first timeat 11:00 AM on Saturday Jan.
20,
> > 2001 From Camp Flying Eagle in Florida.
> >
> >
> > SCOUTING and AMATEUR RADIO - FUN FOR ALL AGES
> >
> >

Thanks for the reply Jim.  Look forward to talking with you later.


73,  Jon Pearl  W4ABC
Club Station - WA4BSA
http://www.scoutradio.org (under slow construction)


----- Original Message -----
From: "James Woodson" <jwoodson@...>
To: <scoutradio@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 6:19 AM
Subject: [scoutradio] Re: K4BOY


> It's a full time setup. and this is Jim Sr.
>
> Jim
>
> --- In scoutradio@y..., "Jon Pearl W4ABC" <w4abc@g...> wrote:
> > Congrats...
> >
> > I had talked with Steve (W4SNW) about the camp radio club at the
> Tampa Bay
> > Hamfest.  How was the reaction from the campers and is this now a
> permanent
> > setup or just for those occasions when the camp sees some scheduled
> use?
> >
> > And...is this Jim Jr. or Sr.???
> >
> >
> > Jon Pearl  W4ABC  St. Petersburg

TO: All HAMs, Scouters, & Scouts.

One of the districts in West Jordan Utah is holding a Radio merit badge
class this Saturday, 2/17/2001.  After the class the Scouts will be trying
to make contact on the following 10m, 20m, 40m (& maybe 15m depending on
propagation) JOTA phone frequencies at 11:00 AM MST (1:00 PM EST):

   BAND Phone (MHz)
   ----      -------
   40m  7.270**
   20m  14.290
   15m  21.360
   10m  28.390*

If possible we would like to talk to other Scouts (& HAMs) on the air.  We
hope we can link up with you on the air!  Call KK7JO (questions? Send him
email at kk7jo@...).

73 & Thank you,
N7TEK
______________________________________________
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HOME ADDRESS:
384 N. 75 E., North Salt Lake, UT 84054-2320
PHONE: (H)801-295-3036  (W)801-588-1216
EMAIL: n7tek@...


Here is a list of the JOTA frequencies:

   BAND  Phone (MHz) CW (MHz)

   80m  3.740 & 3.940 3.590
   40m  7.270**  7.030
   20m  14.290  14.070
   17m  18.140  18.080
   15m  21.360  21.140
   12m  24.960  24.910
   10m  28.390*  28.190


   *The World Scout Bureau has changed the 10 meter phone calling
   frequency to 28.390. The CW calling frequency will remain 28.190.

   **The traditional JOTA frequency on 40-meter is 7.290. This frequency
   is published in the "Considerate Operator's Frequency Guide" as the
   AM calling frequency. After discussing this conflict with ham/scouters,
   Ray Moyer, WD8JKV, (National JOTA organizer), and ARRL, we suggest
   using 7.270 as the US JOTA calling frequency.

After a successful experiment last fall with a
Ham Radio Course for Scouts and Dads, we
have another one planned starting March 6
thru April 9, six consecutive Monday nights.
6:30pm to 8:15pm.   Scouts, Dads, and
"anyone else" who wants to take the course
to prepare for their Technician Class exam.

The course will be held at Camp Hinds BSA,
and is co-sponsored by the American Red
Cross who has a number of volunteers to be
trained.   Scouts also can earn their Radio
Merit badge in the process.   We will be
setting up an HF station on Saturday 3/17
for some hands on at the Camp.

Last fall's course netted 4 new hams:
KB1FYO, FYP, FYQ, and FYR... and another
bunch who have not passed yet... However
the seed is planted, and its just a matter of time.
We'll keep you informed how this spring's class
turns out.
73 de N1RY
Ray
Scout Club call: WJ0TA

Greetings!

This is the second time in the last few weeks that I've heard of a group
here in the U.S.  combining the Radio merit badge and an Amateur Radio
Technician class for fathers & sons (and anyone else interested).  This
appeals to me for several reasons:

1.  The young man earns his Radio merit badge (he's one merit badge closer
to Eagle).
2.  The father & son can earn their Amateur Radio Technician class license.
3.  The father & son spend time doing something worthwhile together.
4.  The father & son develop a common interest that enhances communication
between them which probably will help them build a stronger bond or
relationship.
5.  Fathers & sons that do this will probably participate in the annual
"Jamboree On The Air", "On Target", and other Scouting events and may serve
to generate interest in others.
6.  These fathers & sons may participate in many Amateur Radio organizations
like Amateur Radio clubs, ARES/RACES, ERRS, MARA, SKYWARN, etc. and help
bolster support in disasters or emergencies, parades, or other community
events as HAM operators.

See the following link for a JOTA success story that contains many of the
things that I have mentioned:

http://www.dcarc.net/jota_2000_success.htm

Thanks for letting me share my thoughts with you!  I would encourage Amateur
Radio organizations (and individual operators) to consider holding a Ham
Radio class for Scouts and Dads (or perhaps for Daddies & Daughters OR Moms
& Daughters).

73 de N7TEK - John
P.S.  Be sure to scroll down and read the email from N1RY - Ray!
______________________________________________
John Blackham, N7TEK
HOME ADDRESS:
384 N. 75 E., North Salt Lake, UT 84054-2320
PHONE: (H)801-295-3036  (W)801-588-1216
EMAIL: n7tek@...




-----Original Message-----
From: scoutradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scoutradio@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 1:57 AM
To: scoutradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [scoutradio] Digest Number 134



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       1. Ham Radio for Scouts and Dads
            From: ray@...
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Message: 1
    Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 08:52:58 -0500
    From: ray@...
Subject: Ham Radio for Scouts and Dads

After a successful experiment last fall with a
Ham Radio Course for Scouts and Dads, we
have another one planned starting March 6
thru April 9, six consecutive Monday nights.
6:30pm to 8:15pm.   Scouts, Dads, and
"anyone else" who wants to take the course
to prepare for their Technician Class exam.

The course will be held at Camp Hinds BSA,
and is co-sponsored by the American Red
Cross who has a number of volunteers to be
trained.   Scouts also can earn their Radio
Merit badge in the process.   We will be
setting up an HF station on Saturday 3/17
for some hands on at the Camp.

Last fall's course netted 4 new hams:
KB1FYO, FYP, FYQ, and FYR... and another
bunch who have not passed yet... However
the seed is planted, and its just a matter of time.
We'll keep you informed how this spring's class
turns out.

73 de N1RY - Ray
Scout Club call: WJ0TA
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Ray Vaughan:

I totally agree with your observations about Scouts without Fathers!  I have
some boys in my neighborhood that don't have fathers in their homes.  I try
to pay them extra attention.  They need to feel included!  Sorry about the
way I worded things.


Wayne R Hatfield KD5JJP:

I only have a minute to respond but to learn more about Operation On Target
(an annual event) visit:

http://www.ontargetbsa.org/

We will be updating the webpage for On Target 2001 shortly but I hear they
will be doing On Target back east at the big Jamborall in Vally Forge this
Summer!  It would be neat to see it happen all across the U.S.!

We also have a list similar to "scoutradio" - see:

     http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/bsa_on_target

If you have more questions feel free to contact me!

John Blackham, N7TEK
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Ray Vaughan" ray@...
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 10:07 AM
To: n7tek@...
Subject: RE: [scoutradio] Ham Radio for Scouts and Dads (+ others)


While I totally agree about the radio and merit badge concept, the 'father &
son' focus is somewhat insensitive to the young men from non-traditional
families.   There's no reason why it couldn't be 'mother and son', 'step dad
and son' or any other role model.   I know this has nothing to do with ham
radio, just BSA in general, but I just had to mention it to you directly in
the hopes to get people to think about the effects of these comments on kids
who don't live with their father.  Every reminder that they don't have a
father at home stings a little.


________________________________________________________________________

Message: 2
    Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 12:40:12 -0600
    From: "Wayne R. Hatfield" <ice@...>
Subject: On Target


Wayne R Hatfield KD5JJP
Homer, LA 71040

I know about JOTA but what is On Target?


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From: scoutradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scoutradio@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 2:11 AM
To: scoutradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [scoutradio] Digest Number 135



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            From: n7tek@...
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Message: 1
    Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:45:57 -0700
    From: n7tek@...
Subject: RE: Ham Radio for Scouts and Dads (+ others)

Greetings!

This is the second time in the last few weeks that I've heard of a group
here in the U.S.  combining the Radio merit badge and an Amateur Radio
Technician class for fathers & sons (and anyone else interested).  This
appeals to me for several reasons:

1.  The young man earns his Radio merit badge (he's one merit badge closer
to Eagle).
2.  The father & son can earn their Amateur Radio Technician class license.
3.  The father & son spend time doing something worthwhile together.
4.  The father & son develop a common interest that enhances communication
between them which probably will help them build a stronger bond or
relationship.
5.  Fathers & sons that do this will probably participate in the annual
"Jamboree On The Air", "On Target", and other Scouting events and may serve
to generate interest in others.
6.  These fathers & sons may participate in many Amateur Radio organizations
like Amateur Radio clubs, ARES/RACES, ERRS, MARA, SKYWARN, etc. and help
bolster support in disasters or emergencies, parades, or other community
events as HAM operators.

See the following link for a JOTA success story that contains many of the
things that I have mentioned:

http://www.dcarc.net/jota_2000_success.htm

Thanks for letting me share my thoughts with you!  I would encourage Amateur
Radio organizations (and individual operators) to consider holding a Ham
Radio class for Scouts and Dads (or perhaps for Daddies & Daughters OR Moms
& Daughters).

73 de N7TEK - John
P.S.  Be sure to scroll down and read the email from N1RY - Ray!
______________________________________________
John Blackham, N7TEK
HOME ADDRESS:
384 N. 75 E., North Salt Lake, UT 84054-2320
PHONE: (H)801-295-3036  (W)801-588-1216
EMAIL: n7tek@...




-----Original Message-----
From: scoutradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scoutradio@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 1:57 AM
To: scoutradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [scoutradio] Digest Number 134



SCOUTING and AMATEUR RADIO - FUN FOR ALL AGES
------------------------------------------------------------------------

There is 1 message in this issue.

Topics in this digest:
       1. Ham Radio for Scouts and Dads
            From: ray@...
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________

Message: 1
    Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 08:52:58 -0500
    From: ray@...
Subject: Ham Radio for Scouts and Dads

After a successful experiment last fall with a
Ham Radio Course for Scouts and Dads, we
have another one planned starting March 6
thru April 9, six consecutive Monday nights.
6:30pm to 8:15pm.   Scouts, Dads, and
"anyone else" who wants to take the course
to prepare for their Technician Class exam.

The course will be held at Camp Hinds BSA,
and is co-sponsored by the American Red
Cross who has a number of volunteers to be
trained.   Scouts also can earn their Radio
Merit badge in the process.   We will be
setting up an HF station on Saturday 3/17
for some hands on at the Camp.

Last fall's course netted 4 new hams:
KB1FYO, FYP, FYQ, and FYR... and another
bunch who have not passed yet... However
the seed is planted, and its just a matter of time.
We'll keep you informed how this spring's class
turns out.

73 de N1RY - Ray
Scout Club call: WJ0TA
________________________________________________________________________
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Thanks, John, for the supportive comments.  I agree.

Those of us involved in both of these movements
know how well they belong together, and how
powerful a combination they can be to advance
the purposes of each!

In addition to the points made, eg. a hobby
a Dad and his Son can enjoy together at a
critical age in their relationship, I have a
couple other benefits to offer.

One is how the verbal communications
skills of the young men/women are advanced by
the training and fun of Amateur Radio.
Train them on all the protocols, and then
put them on the air with others their age,
and watch the magic.  They figure out how
to express themselves, verbalize their
thoughts... and with others their own age
almost all the aprehension is gone!
I had one fellow who didn't say a word
in class, very timid, but he got his licesnse,
and as soon as he was on the air, WOW
he was very articulate!

The carreers in communications, electronics,
and wireless are endless in this day and age,
and those of us who are involved in Amateur
Radio and Scouting really have a treasure
we need to share more, and make more
noise about in both circles.

The Big Project movement of the ARRL
which is focused on getting Ham Radio into
the Public Schools is a great idea.  But
I really think we'd get more impact getting
Hams involved in their local scout troops as well.

N1RY - Ray Sirois


>    Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:45:57 -0700
>    From: n7tek@...
> Subject: RE: Ham Radio for Scouts and Dads (+ others)
>
> Greetings!
>
> This is the second time in the last few weeks that I've heard of a group
> here in the U.S.  combining the Radio merit badge and an Amateur Radio
> Technician class for fathers & sons (and anyone else interested).  This
> appeals to me for several reasons:
>
> 1.  The young man earns his Radio merit badge (he's one merit badge closer
> to Eagle).
> 2.  The father & son can earn their Amateur Radio Technician class license.
> 3.  The father & son spend time doing something worthwhile together.
> 4.  The father & son develop a common interest that enhances communication
> between them which probably will help them build a stronger bond or
> relationship.
> 5.  Fathers & sons that do this will probably participate in the annual
> "Jamboree On The Air", "On Target", and other Scouting events and may serve
> to generate interest in others.
> 6.  These fathers & sons may participate in many Amateur Radio organizations
> like Amateur Radio clubs, ARES/RACES, ERRS, MARA, SKYWARN, etc. and help
> bolster support in disasters or emergencies, parades, or other community
> events as HAM operators.
>
> See the following link for a JOTA success story that contains many of the
> things that I have mentioned:
>
> http://www.dcarc.net/jota_2000_success.htm
>
> Thanks for letting me share my thoughts with you!  I would encourage Amateur
> Radio organizations (and individual operators) to consider holding a Ham
> Radio class for Scouts and Dads (or perhaps for Daddies & Daughters OR Moms
> & Daughters).
>
> 73 de N7TEK - John
> P.S.  Be sure to scroll down and read the email from N1RY - Ray!
> ______________________________________________
> John Blackham, N7TEK
> HOME ADDRESS:
> 384 N. 75 E., North Salt Lake, UT 84054-2320
> PHONE: (H)801-295-3036  (W)801-588-1216
> EMAIL: n7tek@...
>

I am currently working on starting a radio club at my local middle
school.  I my proposal I am stating the many benefits of amateur radio.
In addition to electronics the students learn  Math, Geography, Foreign
language skills, Social skills, and (always an attention getter)
diversity.  Studying for their licenses and learning the code give the
students the real self esteem they get from meeting a challenge head on
and being successful.  It's also a lot of fun.  Good luck with your
project.

Jim Mahoney  KB3BYU
SM Troop 107
Allentown, PA


On Sat, 24 Feb 2001 09:31:11 -0500 ray@... writes:
> Thanks, John, for the supportive comments.  I agree.
>
> Those of us involved in both of these movements
> know how well they belong together, and how
> powerful a combination they can be to advance
> the purposes of each!
>
> In addition to the points made, eg. a hobby
> a Dad and his Son can enjoy together at a
> critical age in their relationship, I have a
> couple other benefits to offer.
>
> One is how the verbal communications
> skills of the young men/women are advanced by
> the training and fun of Amateur Radio.
> Train them on all the protocols, and then
> put them on the air with others their age,
> and watch the magic.  They figure out how
> to express themselves, verbalize their
> thoughts... and with others their own age
> almost all the aprehension is gone!
> I had one fellow who didn't say a word
> in class, very timid, but he got his licesnse,
> and as soon as he was on the air, WOW
> he was very articulate!
>
> The carreers in communications, electronics,
> and wireless are endless in this day and age,
> and those of us who are involved in Amateur
> Radio and Scouting really have a treasure
> we need to share more, and make more
> noise about in both circles.
>
> The Big Project movement of the ARRL
> which is focused on getting Ham Radio into
> the Public Schools is a great idea.  But
> I really think we'd get more impact getting
> Hams involved in their local scout troops as well.
>
> N1RY - Ray Sirois
>
>
> >    Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:45:57 -0700
> >    From: n7tek@...
> > Subject: RE: Ham Radio for Scouts and Dads (+ others)
> >
> > Greetings!
> >
> > This is the second time in the last few weeks that I've heard of a
> group
> > here in the U.S.  combining the Radio merit badge and an Amateur
> Radio
> > Technician class for fathers & sons (and anyone else interested).
> This
> > appeals to me for several reasons:
> >
> > 1.  The young man earns his Radio merit badge (he's one merit
> badge closer
> > to Eagle).
> > 2.  The father & son can earn their Amateur Radio Technician class
> license.
> > 3.  The father & son spend time doing something worthwhile
> together.
> > 4.  The father & son develop a common interest that enhances
> communication
> > between them which probably will help them build a stronger bond
> or
> > relationship.
> > 5.  Fathers & sons that do this will probably participate in the
> annual
> > "Jamboree On The Air", "On Target", and other Scouting events and
> may serve
> > to generate interest in others.
> > 6.  These fathers & sons may participate in many Amateur Radio
> organizations
> > like Amateur Radio clubs, ARES/RACES, ERRS, MARA, SKYWARN, etc.
> and help
> > bolster support in disasters or emergencies, parades, or other
> community
> > events as HAM operators.
> >
> > See the following link for a JOTA success story that contains many
> of the
> > things that I have mentioned:
> >
> > http://www.dcarc.net/jota_2000_success.htm
> >
> > Thanks for letting me share my thoughts with you!  I would
> encourage Amateur
> > Radio organizations (and individual operators) to consider holding
> a Ham
> > Radio class for Scouts and Dads (or perhaps for Daddies &
> Daughters OR Moms
> > & Daughters).
> >
> > 73 de N7TEK - John
> > P.S.  Be sure to scroll down and read the email from N1RY - Ray!
> > ______________________________________________
> > John Blackham, N7TEK
> > HOME ADDRESS:
> > 384 N. 75 E., North Salt Lake, UT 84054-2320
> > PHONE: (H)801-295-3036  (W)801-588-1216
> > EMAIL: n7tek@...
> >
>
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What regulations apply during JOTA for allowing non licensed scouts
talk to stations outside the USA under the direction of a licensed
control operator? I asked a similar question in a different group and
the consensus was that the USA must have a Third-Party Traffic
agreement with the country in question. I just looked at the list of
countries with Third-Party Traffic agreements published in the April
QST. The list is not very big! If this interpretation of the
regulations is correct it would severely limit JOTA operations. So,
can we allow a scout to talk another scout in say Germany?

The complete current FCC regs apply all the time.  There's nothing special
about JOTA (as far as regs are concerned).  To answer your question, no, an
unlicensed Scout cannot talk legally to ANYONE in Germany, licensed or not.

73,
Don AE5K

At 01:10 PM 03/19/2001 -0000, you wrote:
>What regulations apply during JOTA for allowing non licensed scouts
>talk to stations outside the USA under the direction of a licensed
>control operator? I asked a similar question in a different group and
>the consensus was that the USA must have a Third-Party Traffic
>agreement with the country in question. I just looked at the list of
>countries with Third-Party Traffic agreements published in the April
>QST. The list is not very big! If this interpretation of the
>regulations is correct it would severely limit JOTA operations. So,
>can we allow a scout to talk another scout in say Germany?

Hi Jeff and Don

A couple of small addendums apply to the list that the ARRL has noted
below...

Third-party Traffic List
Countries that Share a Third-Party Traffic Agreement with the United States
of America

V2 -- Antigua/Barbuda
LU -- Argentina
VK -- Australia
V3 -- Belize
CP -- Bolivia
T9 -- Bosnia-Herzegovina
PY -- Brazil
VE -- Canada
CE -- Chile
HK -- Colombia
D6 -- Comoros
TI -- Costa Rica
CO -- Cuba
HI -- Dominican Republic
J7 -- Dominica
HC -- Ecuador
YS -- El Salvador
V6 -- Federated States of Micronesia
9G -- Ghana
J3 -- Grenada
TG -- Guatemala
8R -- Guyana
6Y -- Jamaica
HH -- Haiti
HR -- Honduras 4X -- Israel
JY -- Jordan
EL -- Liberia
V7 -- Marshall Islands
XE -- Mexico
YN -- Nicaragua
HP -- Panama
ZP -- Paraguay
OA -- Peru
DU -- Philippines
VR6 -- Pitcairn Islands*
V4 -- St.Christ./Nevis
J6 -- St. Lucia
J8 -- St. Vincent
9L -- Sierra Leone
ZS -- South Africa
3DA - Swaziland
9Y -- Trinidad/Tobago
TA -- Turkey
GB -- U.K.**
CX -- Uruguay
YV -- Venezuela
4U1ITU - ITU Geneva
4U1VIC - VIC Vienna


* Since 1970, there has been an informal agreement between the U.K. and the
US, permitting Pitcairn and US amateurs to exchange messages concerning
medical emergencies, urgent need for equipment of supplies, and private or
personal matters of island residents.

** Limited to special-event stations with call sign prefix GB, (GB3
excluded).

73,

Jon Pearl W4ABC
w4abc@...


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From: <jeffhburns@...>
To: <scoutradio@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 8:10 AM
Subject: [scoutradio] What regulations apply during JOTA?


> What regulations apply during JOTA for allowing non licensed scouts
> talk to stations outside the USA under the direction of a licensed
> control operator? I asked a similar question in a different group and
> the consensus was that the USA must have a Third-Party Traffic
> agreement with the country in question. I just looked at the list of
> countries with Third-Party Traffic agreements published in the April
> QST. The list is not very big! If this interpretation of the
> regulations is correct it would severely limit JOTA operations. So,
> can we allow a scout to talk another scout in say Germany?

The picture is better than you think ....

A number of European countries are granted 'special' 3rd party rights for
the annual JOTA event which opens up the number of countries to and from
which 3rd party greetings can be exchanged.  I don't have the full list to
hand, and in any case, it grows each year.

If I don't remember to post details before next October's JOTA in this
newsgroup, then drop me a line as a reminder.

I will also add details to the UK WEB site closer to the event.

73  Malcolm
G4CXT

www.radio-scouting.org.uk



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don L. Jackson [mailto:don@...]
> Sent: 19 March 2001 13:22
> To: scoutradio@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [scoutradio] What regulations apply during JOTA?
>
>
> The complete current FCC regs apply all the time.  There's
> nothing special
> about JOTA (as far as regs are concerned).  To answer your
> question, no, an
> unlicensed Scout cannot talk legally to ANYONE in Germany,
> licensed or not.
>
> 73,
> Don AE5K
>
> At 01:10 PM 03/19/2001 -0000, you wrote:
> >What regulations apply during JOTA for allowing non licensed scouts
> >talk to stations outside the USA under the direction of a licensed
> >control operator? I asked a similar question in a different
> group and
> >the consensus was that the USA must have a Third-Party Traffic
> >agreement with the country in question. I just looked at the list of
> >countries with Third-Party Traffic agreements published in the April
> >QST. The list is not very big! If this interpretation of the
> >regulations is correct it would severely limit JOTA operations. So,
> >can we allow a scout to talk another scout in say Germany?
>
>
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