SHIGS 706, bloco L , casa 22 – Asa Sul

The Longhorn Council and the Worth Ranch Amateur Radio Association
will be operating a new Scout Amateur Radio station from Worth Ranch
Scout Camp in Pala Pinto, TX. about 80 miles west of Ft. Worth, TX.
for our 2008 camp season.  The station call is WR5WR and we will be on
the air most morning and evening starting on the evening of June 8th
2008 and continue to operate until June the 28th which is the end of
the camp season at Worth Ranch.  We will be operateing HF on or near
the standard scout freqs.  We will try to operate some PSK-31 and
other digital modes as well. We will also try some APRS. I will be
teaching the Radio merit badge twice a day, and the station will be up
before and after the classes.  If you hear us give us a call and talk
to a scout.

I look forward to hearing from you.
Thank you for all you do!!

Tony Wooten AB5RO
Trustee of WR5WR
Worrth Ranch Scout Camp

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> Amateur Radio Club Station Of Tunisian Scouts

The Tunisian Scouts Organize:

- Scout Boys Branch
The 28th Arabic Scout Jamboree.
Form July, the 23 to August the 2, 2008
The meeting is  "Renewed Again " after 27th Arabic Jamborees the 1st
one on Zabbed (Country) many show cases will be hosted by the
different Arabic Regions. They will join us and participate in this
new opportunity.
(Encouraged by the Scout Boys Leader of the 28th Arabic Jamb) it is a
confirmation that our young's still have the Arabic Origins and the
"Covenant Reconfirmed".
The logo of the Jamboree « a Meeting Renewed…a Covenant Confirmed ».

- The Cubs and Flowers club Branch
The Mediterranean Camp of Cubs and Flowers club « Medcubs2008 »
Form August, the 06th to August the 15th, 2008
The camp will be organized in order to reserve the close relations of
love and prosperity to get an idea about the Mediterranean Countries
Cultures.
It is our belief that the comprehensive Education of our children go
through openness over the others over creating or put the values of
tolerance and love between all the world generations.
This is again a fellow up of the Scouts Movement's principles since
its beginnings.



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> > Amateur Radio Club Station Of Tunisian Scouts
>
> The Tunisian Scouts Organize:
>
> - Scout Boys Branch
> The 28th Arabic Scout Jamboree.
> Form July, the 23 to August the 2, 2008
> The meeting is  "Renewed Again " after 27th Arabic Jamborees the 1st
> one on Zabbed (Country) many show cases will be hosted by the
> different Arabic Regions. They will join us and participate in this
> new opportunity.
> (Encouraged by the Scout Boys Leader of the 28th Arabic Jamb) it is a
> confirmation that our young's still have the Arabic Origins and the
> "Covenant Reconfirmed".
> The logo of the Jamboree « a Meeting Renewed…a Covenant Confirmed ».
>
> - The Cubs and Flowers club Branch
> The Mediterranean Camp of Cubs and Flowers club « Medcubs2008 »
> Form August, the 06th to August the 15th, 2008
> The camp will be organized in order to reserve the close relations of
> love and prosperity to get an idea about the Mediterranean Countries
> Cultures.
> It is our belief that the comprehensive Education of our children go
> through openness over the others over creating or put the values of
> tolerance and love between all the world generations.
> This is again a fellow up of the Scouts Movement's principles since
> its beginnings.
>
     To fellow all this occasions, the Amateur Radio club of Tunisian
Scouts will be prepare an important program organized by many Scout
members
(Cubs, Flowers, Boys, Rovers…) will be very pleased if you confirm us
in  this program which will sums up in 4 stages:
1- PRE-MEDCUBS 2008
Form July, 6th at 00:00 UTC  to August 5th, 2008  at 24:00 UTC.
The Central Club - 3V8ST -  of the Tunisian Scouts will start a
special call sign TS1MSC before 30 days of the events.
The Radio Station will be activated of those bands: 15-17-20-40-80
meters and also for different modes: SSB-PSK31-RTTY-SSTV-CW.

2- PRE-THE 28th ARABIC SCOUT JAMBOREE
Form June, 23rd at 00:00 UTC to July 22nd, 2008 at 24:00 UTC.
The regional club stations of Borj-Cedria – 3V8CB - start a special
call sign TS1ASC before 30 days of the events.
The Radio Station will be activated of those bands: 15-17-20-40-80
meters and also for different modes: SSB-PSK31-RTTY-SSTV-CW

3- 28th ARABIC SCOUT JAMBOREE SPECIAL CALL SIGN
Form July, 23rd at 00:00 UTC to August 02nd, 2008 at 24:00 UTC.
The regional club stations of Borj-Cedria – 3V8CB - start a special
call sign TS28ASJ from the Mondial Centre of Formation and Camps of
Borj-Cedria, near TUNIS the capital city of TUNISIA, tow Radio Station
will be Centralized there to broadcast the scouts Radio  Calls for all
world and transfer the Camp's days info.

4- MEDCUBS 2008 SPECIAL CALL SIGN
Form August, 06th at 00:00 UTC to August 15th, 2008 at 24:00 UTC.
The Central Club - 3V8ST -  of the Tunisian Scouts will start a
special call sign TS1CUBS from the Mondial Centre of Formation and
Camps of Borj-Cedria, near TUNIS the capital city of TUNISIA, tow
Radio Station will be Centralized there to broadcast the scouts Radio
  Calls for all world and transfer the Camp's days info.

Do not Hesitate to be on the Scouts Frequencies and reply on this Call.

The participation of Non-Resident members of Tunisian Amateur Radio club:
     For those Amateur Radio from all over the world and who want to
Participate in activating the radio station can join us starting from
June, 24th 2008 they bear the TRANSPORT + STAYS DAYS LESS WILL BE THON
THEIR ON EXPENSES.
The Amateur Radio Club can HELP then to reserve their Stays Days in
TUNISIA as they like.
For more info please send enquiry:
Scout.tunisien@...
montajoti@...
CERTAFICATION

A Certificate will be formed for the 4 stages under the condition below:
1. Done once Communication as Minimum with: TS1CUBS & TS28ASJ.
2. Any Communication with those stations: TS1CUBS & TS28ASJ you can have
    5 points in SSB.
    7 points in DIGITALS MODES ( PSK31-RTTY-SSTV ).
    9 points in CW mode.
3. Any Communication with those stations: TS1MSC & TS28ASC you can have
    3 points in SSB.
    5 points in DIGITALS MODES (PSK31-RTTY-SSTV).
    7 points in CW mode.
4. The SCOUTS STATIONS get two more points for each Communication.
5. You can work the same station only once per band irrespective of mode.
6. Your final score will be calculated by a simple addition method.
7. The 1st and 3rd RANK will get Special Certificates and the other
stations will get Certificates of participation.
8. Log Submission Addresses and Terms:
  - We need electronics log! (Microsoft Office Excel) or paper log (no
problem).
  - The file name for the log should be <your call>
  - Submit your electronic log by e-mail if you don't have access to
e-mail sending a floppy or CD is acceptable too
  - Logs must be submitted to the AMATEUR RADIO CLUB OF TUNISIAN SCOUTS
no later than September 30th,2008.
  - Electronic logs must be submitted via E-mail to <
astra.awards@... > Be sure to put the station call sign in the
<Subject>.
  - Paper Logs, CDs, Floppies must be sent to:
AMATEUR RADIO CLUB STATION
TUNIS P.O.BOX 339
TUNIS MAHRAJENE 1082
TUNISIA

Remark:
For the scouts stations please confirm while your communication us «Am
a Scout Station »

All the scouts station will be prepared to this activities
So be prepared too to get your Awards
GOOD LUCK
Best'73  vy'88

Mr KAMMAKH MONTASSAR
Chief Operator In The Central Club - 3V8ST -
Of Tunisian Scouts

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Hi all,

W3BOY will be operating from Camp John H. Ware III in Peach Bottom,
Pennsylvania the week from 29 June to 4 July.  Look for them on the HF
bands as well as the CCAR (Chester County Ares Races) repeater system.

This is the annual Science and Radio Camp week.

For the Radio Camp portion of the program, the scouts can earn Radio
and Electronics MB and have the opportunity to test for a Radio
Amateur License at the end the week.

Happy Scouting,

YIS Jim Mc Nichol
N3LBY

Jim (at al) --

If the camp allows, recommend that W3BOY operate 20 meters -- at night --
from perhaps 8pm local until midnight.  Propagation has been awesome this
past month at nighttime, some evenings better than others, and the boys
will flip out at all of the stations across Europe, Asia, the
Mediterranean, down into the Middle East they'll likely hear and be able
to talk to.

Without putting much effort into it, since mid-May I've worked Hawaii, New
Zealand, European Russia, Chile, Asiatic Russia, South Cook Island,
Norfolk Island, Marshall Islands, Georgia, Australia, Mexico, East
Kiribati and Kuwait on 20 meters during the night time.  Almost got
Oman, Lebanon and Israel the other night, but couldn't quite lob my
signal that far.  My station is only 100 watts with a measily 20-meter
single-band dipole up only 25 feet.

Generally the "if you can hear them, you can work them" rule applies.

Also, 10 meters has been open at night from sporatic-E, though mainly
short skip.  I did work Hawaii on it a few days ago.  This has been fun,
but not as much as working some super-long DX on 20.

This general message goes out to other Scouts/scouters and summer camp
stations: HF is rocking, despite being at the bottom of the solar cycle
(in fact, the band openings above have nothing too much to do with the
solar cycle).  Take advantage of it as you show off ham radio, or enjoy
ham radio for yourself.

If you're a Technician ham, this is this is the perfect time to use your
new HF privileges, and even upgrade to General.  Or, if you're just
looking to rekindle the excitement of ham radio, this is your passport to
easily work exotic DX and hang some new QSL cards on the wall.

73 es gud dx,
Brian N5ZGT
ARRL Director, Rocky Mountain Division
ASM Troop 409, Albuquerque, NM
Associate Lodge Adviser, Lodge 66 Yah-Tah-Hey-Si-Kess

On Fri, 6 Jun 2008, James Mc Nichol wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> W3BOY will be operating from Camp John H. Ware III in Peach Bottom,
> Pennsylvania the week from 29 June to 4 July.  Look for them on the HF
> bands as well as the CCAR (Chester County Ares Races) repeater system.
>
> This is the annual Science and Radio Camp week.
>
> For the Radio Camp portion of the program, the scouts can earn Radio
> and Electronics MB and have the opportunity to test for a Radio
> Amateur License at the end the week.
>
> Happy Scouting,
>
> YIS Jim Mc Nichol
> N3LBY
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Check out the UK Radio-Scouting page here at Yahoo!Groups.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/radio-scouting-uk
>
> Now that you've got new licensees in your unit, why not have them subscibe to
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ScoutRadioYouth
>
> Visit "Operation On Target BSA" Mountain Top Signaling:
> http://www.ontargetbsa.org/
>
> Great list of Scouting/Amateur Radio web sites:
> http://www.k1dwu.net/ham-links/clubs.-.scouting.phtml
>
> SCOUTING and AMATEUR RADIO - FUN FOR ALL AGESYahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

ARRL Director, Rocky Mountain Division
On the web at www.RockyMountainDivision.org

Boy Scout Radio Merit Badge at HamCom 2008


On June 14, 2008, HamCom 2008, the Biggest Amateur Radio gathering
in Texas, will host the innovative one day Boy Scout Radio Merit
Badge program at the Plano Center in Plano, Texas. This year's
program will be like no other Merit Badge session. The class is
limited to the first 130 Boy Scouts enrolled. We currently have 128
Boy Scouts enrolled.

This Radio Merit Badge will be done in a fun and constructive way.
All instructors are Amateur Radio operators and Boy Scout leaders.
This year our guest speaker is the one-and-only Gordon West (Gordo),
WB7NOA. We will also have representatives from the National Weather
Service (NOAA), American Radio Relay League (ARRL) and West Gulf
Division of ARRL.

Scouts participating in the program will be able to see and use
Amateur Radio equipment. We will also have a hidden transmitter
hunt. If you've never been part of an Amateur Radio "fox hunt"
you've missed out on some real fun!

The cost is FREE to all Scouts in Uniform and FREE lunch for all
scouts 18 years of age and under.

Radio contacts are for 10 minutes. On Saturday, June 14th at HAMCOM
2008 between 2:30 to 4:30pm CST (17:30 to 19:30 Z), the Boy Scouts,
who will have just finished their Radio Merit Badge classes, will
have the opportunity to apply their new knowledge.  Two GET ON THE
AIR stations:  K5RKW and KB5RP from the Rockwall Amateur Radio Club
will have H.F. operations available in the patio area.

Based on the time of day and the sun spot cycle minimum /propagation
conditions, the planned bands and approximate frequencies are as
follows:

Band     MHZ      Comments
40M      7.215     & down
20M     14.250    & down
17M     18.135    & up
15M     21.315    & up   (if open)
10M     28.550    & up  ( if open)

Bear in mind with only two hours of operations the bands with the
best conditions will be selected.   It is anticipated that 20M and
17M may offer the best propagation for HF.  40M will be checked
during the last hour.

On VHF/UHF, other RARC members will be using their handie-talkies to
demonstrate selected local repeaters and perhaps some simplex
operation.
Rockwall's primary repeater is 441.525Mhz (PL 141.3).  Some of the
UHF activity can be expected on this repeater.

The nucleus of the RARC crew and operators at this event will be Les
Darlington, Ferris Watson, John Walker, Leo Luker, Eric Wolf and
Rusty Hensley.  Members of the Garland, Plano and the McKinney
Amateur Radio clubs will also be helping the Boy Scouts to complete
this Merit Badge in one day.

See you at HamCom 2008.

YIS&OA / 73's

Richard
KB5YBQ/AE

Camp Operating Location Announcement (COLA)
Scout Camp Name:Camp La-No-Che
Location: Paisley, Florida
Operating Days:June 22-38, 2008
Operating Times: SCCP as schedule permits
Operating Frequencies: SCCP +/- QRM
Troop 101, Fort Myers, Fl. de John Hendricks KI4LTX

-------------- Original message from "ki4ltx" <ki4ltx@...>: --------------

Camp Operating Location Announcement (COLA)
Scout Camp Name:Camp La-No-Che
Location: Paisley, Florida
Operating Days:June 22-38, 2008
Operating Times: SCCP as schedule permits
Operating Frequencies: SCCP +/- QRM
Troop 101, Fort Myers, Fl. de John Hendricks KI4LTX

Norm, K9ZKS, saw a post I made on the NUE-PSK group about a digital
light communications idea for use as a Scout activity.  He suggested
that I bring the idea over to this group.

Rather than repeat that post, let me "test the waters" so to speak
and first ask if the discussion of light communications, which would
not be exclusively an amateur radio topic would fit in to the intent
and personality of this list.

The amateur radio electromagnetic spectrum does include light, so
light communications can be an amateur radio topic.  However, it
should be obvious that building and using light sources, and by
extention light communication systems, does not require any license.

I think that light communication goes well with Scouting.  Scout
signalling has included daylight mirror and night flashlight systems
for longer than I can remember.  Modern tools have provided what I
see as a bridge between those legacy methods and the wonderous
additional benefits of amateur radio.

I have demonstration that I call "Talk on a Beam of Light" that I
have used for several years with elementary school students.  It
started with a kit using a microprocessor to pulse width modulate a
laser pointer.  I replaced the "transmitter" with an audio amplifier
driving an LED mounted in a tube and lens assembly.  This resulted
in a system the was easier to use, it could be done with the skills
and on the budget of Scouts.

I tried to think up a way to make a communications activity using
light communications.  It works better at night, but I am still
trying to work on a daylight version.  The idea is something like
this:

A patrol reports to a station and are tasked to assemble the
communications equipment, probably a lens and tube that must be
attached to the light emitter, and another set attached to the light
detector.  Then the assemblies joined and aligned, then connected to
the electronic assembly.  The patrol must then receive instructions
from the communications link and relay messages to a third party.

A field version might also be considered by directing the patrol to
a series of communications sites.  In that instance the
communication equipment should be pre-assembled and tested, also
very rugged if my experience as a Scout is any guide.  It might be
similar to a night hike to a hilltop, then shining a bright
flashlight at another hilltop.  The difference is the flashlight
beam talks.

The mode of communication is optional.  While Morse Code might seem
to be the simplest for the hardware, it places a stiff training
requirement on the Scouts and in the enviroment that I have tested
so far it does not seem to have the communications advantage that it
has over voice in the amateur radio realm.  Digital modes ( keyboard
chat ) seem to hold a lot of potential that I had not recognised
before my experience with the NUE-PSK digital modem.  Unfortunately,
I feel that it is too expensive and too much "married" to an amateur
radio transceiver to be used by groups of Scouts.  But a stripped
down, optical optimized, version might work.

Similar activities could be done with radios.  However, most radios
are too expensive.  Licensing is also a factor. There are times when
the narrow beam of a light communication system is a benefit, other
times a limitation.

As I said, the point of this post is see if this is a topic worth
discussing on this group.

Best Wishes.

James
  n5gui

----- Original Message -----

From: ki4fus@...

To: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 5:03 PM

Subject: Re: [ScoutRadio] Camp Operating Location Announcement (COLA)

Where do I go to list an operating schedule ? I am going to be at summer camp for the next three weeks and I am going to set-up an HF station for the boys to talk on.I have not got the times or frequencies  set yet. Does anybody have any suggestions for frequencies? I need to "plug-into" the scouting radio page but I do not know it. Can anyone help me out?

 

Leading Scouts into the twenty-first century

Curtis W. Jennings

ASM T-7-Auburn Alabama

UC

Emergency Preparedness/radio MB instructor

Chattahoochee Scout Reservation

Camp Lumpkin,Georgia

-------------- Original message from "ki4ltx" <ki4ltx@...>: --------------

Camp Operating Location Announcement (COLA)
Scout Camp Name:Camp La-No-Che
Location: Paisley, Florida
Operating Days:June 22-38, 2008
Operating Times: SCCP as schedule permits
Operating Frequencies: SCCP +/- QRM
Troop 101, Fort Myers, Fl. de John Hendricks KI4LTX

Hi James,

I think this would be a great topic for discussion.  I don't know of any other
venue for
discussing this method of communication.

Here's a great source of info on experiments in Australia:
http://modulatedlight.org/Modulated_Light_DX/MODULATED_LIGHT_DX.html

There's also Operation On-Target: http://ontargetbsa.org/about.htm

Looking forward to more thoughts.

73, Frank KR1ZAN
Garland, TX


--- In ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com, "n5gui" <n5gui@...> wrote:
>
> Norm, K9ZKS, saw a post I made on the NUE-PSK group about a digital
> light communications idea for use as a Scout activity.  He suggested
> that I bring the idea over to this group.
>
> Rather than repeat that post, let me "test the waters" so to speak
> and first ask if the discussion of light communications, which would
> not be exclusively an amateur radio topic would fit in to the intent
> and personality of this list.
>
> The amateur radio electromagnetic spectrum does include light, so
> light communications can be an amateur radio topic.  However, it
> should be obvious that building and using light sources, and by
> extention light communication systems, does not require any license.
>
> I think that light communication goes well with Scouting.  Scout
> signalling has included daylight mirror and night flashlight systems
> for longer than I can remember.  Modern tools have provided what I
> see as a bridge between those legacy methods and the wonderous
> additional benefits of amateur radio.
>
> I have demonstration that I call "Talk on a Beam of Light" that I
> have used for several years with elementary school students.  It
> started with a kit using a microprocessor to pulse width modulate a
> laser pointer.  I replaced the "transmitter" with an audio amplifier
> driving an LED mounted in a tube and lens assembly.  This resulted
> in a system the was easier to use, it could be done with the skills
> and on the budget of Scouts.
>
> I tried to think up a way to make a communications activity using
> light communications.  It works better at night, but I am still
> trying to work on a daylight version.  The idea is something like
> this:
>
> A patrol reports to a station and are tasked to assemble the
> communications equipment, probably a lens and tube that must be
> attached to the light emitter, and another set attached to the light
> detector.  Then the assemblies joined and aligned, then connected to
> the electronic assembly.  The patrol must then receive instructions
> from the communications link and relay messages to a third party.
>
> A field version might also be considered by directing the patrol to
> a series of communications sites.  In that instance the
> communication equipment should be pre-assembled and tested, also
> very rugged if my experience as a Scout is any guide.  It might be
> similar to a night hike to a hilltop, then shining a bright
> flashlight at another hilltop.  The difference is the flashlight
> beam talks.
>
> The mode of communication is optional.  While Morse Code might seem
> to be the simplest for the hardware, it places a stiff training
> requirement on the Scouts and in the enviroment that I have tested
> so far it does not seem to have the communications advantage that it
> has over voice in the amateur radio realm.  Digital modes ( keyboard
> chat ) seem to hold a lot of potential that I had not recognised
> before my experience with the NUE-PSK digital modem.  Unfortunately,
> I feel that it is too expensive and too much "married" to an amateur
> radio transceiver to be used by groups of Scouts.  But a stripped
> down, optical optimized, version might work.
>
> Similar activities could be done with radios.  However, most radios
> are too expensive.  Licensing is also a factor. There are times when
> the narrow beam of a light communication system is a benefit, other
> times a limitation.
>
> As I said, the point of this post is see if this is a topic worth
> discussing on this group.
>
> Best Wishes.
>
> James
>  n5gui
>

Frank,

Thank you for the response.

To the list of resources, I would add:

   http://modulatedlight.org/

Which includes the recent 173 mile optical QSOs




    http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/laser/

Which is the archives of a freespace laser communications discussion
group.


Most of the information is aimed at long distance systems, and in
the case of On Target, daylight distance with mirrors for sunlight
signaling by Venture Scouts.  Once a concept is refined these may
provide excellent technical assistance, but their interests lie
outside what I am suggesting.

I presented a team concept in my original post.  Let me suggest a
possible concept for a single person device:  two parallel tubes
about two inches in diameter and forty-four inches long ( assuming
the optics use 20X1000 mm lenses ) that with some hand grips might
look like a long water gun.  In receive only mode the Scout is sent
out in a field that is criss-crossed with modulated laser beams.
The Scout has instructions to listen to the messages of the various
beams, two of which intersect at the location of a box where he is
to leave his token and then proceed to his next intersection.

In a two way communication mode, the Scout has fixed locations from
which he is to establish communications, receive and relay messages,
then proceed to another location.

A single user device may need wider beam widths, or perhaps the
communication locations can provide a support to steady the Scout's
aim.  A wall or picnic table should do. It may be similar to trying
to point a rifle at a target.  In fact the system probably needs a
push to talk button that may well resemble a gun trigger.

My suggestions are intended to convey a basic concept and thereby
spark much more suitable uses.  The equipment should then be
designed to perform the necessary tasks.  I do not want to limit the
imagination of this group in suggesting uses by trying to pre-
determine the equipment design.

James
  n5gui


--- In ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com, "Frank Krizan" <frank.krizan@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi James,
>
> I think this would be a great topic for discussion.  I don't know
of any other venue for
> discussing this method of communication.
>
> Here's a great source of info on experiments in Australia:
>
http://modulatedlight.org/Modulated_Light_DX/MODULATED_LIGHT_DX.html
>
> There's also Operation On-Target: http://ontargetbsa.org/about.htm
>
> Looking forward to more thoughts.
>
> 73, Frank KR1ZAN
> Garland, TX
>

I think it would be more than just a new activity but it will also
improve scouting skills including the use of light as a form of
communication...

i've been discussing this with the Philippine Nat'l training staff and
we ought to hear a lot more improvements from you sir...

more power

ES Francis Campos
National Office
Boy Scout of the Philippines
Public Relations Respondent

--- In ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com, "n5gui" <n5gui@...> wrote:
>
> Frank,
>
> Thank you for the response.
>
> To the list of resources, I would add:
>
>   http://modulatedlight.org/
>
> Which includes the recent 173 mile optical QSOs
>
>
>
>
>    http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/laser/
>
> Which is the archives of a freespace laser communications discussion
> group.
>
>
> Most of the information is aimed at long distance systems, and in
> the case of On Target, daylight distance with mirrors for sunlight
> signaling by Venture Scouts.  Once a concept is refined these may
> provide excellent technical assistance, but their interests lie
> outside what I am suggesting.
>
> I presented a team concept in my original post.  Let me suggest a
> possible concept for a single person device:  two parallel tubes
> about two inches in diameter and forty-four inches long ( assuming
> the optics use 20X1000 mm lenses ) that with some hand grips might
> look like a long water gun.  In receive only mode the Scout is sent
> out in a field that is criss-crossed with modulated laser beams.
> The Scout has instructions to listen to the messages of the various
> beams, two of which intersect at the location of a box where he is
> to leave his token and then proceed to his next intersection.
>
> In a two way communication mode, the Scout has fixed locations from
> which he is to establish communications, receive and relay messages,
> then proceed to another location.
>
> A single user device may need wider beam widths, or perhaps the
> communication locations can provide a support to steady the Scout's
> aim.  A wall or picnic table should do. It may be similar to trying
> to point a rifle at a target.  In fact the system probably needs a
> push to talk button that may well resemble a gun trigger.
>
> My suggestions are intended to convey a basic concept and thereby
> spark much more suitable uses.  The equipment should then be
> designed to perform the necessary tasks.  I do not want to limit the
> imagination of this group in suggesting uses by trying to pre-
> determine the equipment design.
>
> James
>  n5gui
>
>
> --- In ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com, "Frank Krizan" <frank.krizan@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi James,
> >
> > I think this would be a great topic for discussion.  I don't know
> of any other venue for
> > discussing this method of communication.
> >
> > Here's a great source of info on experiments in Australia:
> >
> http://modulatedlight.org/Modulated_Light_DX/MODULATED_LIGHT_DX.html
> >
> > There's also Operation On-Target: http://ontargetbsa.org/about.htm
> >
> > Looking forward to more thoughts.
> >
> > 73, Frank KR1ZAN
> > Garland, TX
> >
>

I'm off with our troop next week for Summer Camp.

I'm debating taking either an Icom 706 or a Yaesu 817, for demo and
(perhaps) if anyone wants to work on Radio Merit Badge.

Has anyone else brought an HF rig to camp?  How did it work out?

Jon
W2MC
ASM, Troop 48 Medford Lakes NJ

> I'm off with our troop next week for Summer Camp.
> Has anyone else brought an HF rig to camp?  How did it work
out?

Remember, the Best way to get the most boys involved is to hang
a big sign in the mess hall something like this:

HAM Radio Demonstrations
THIS WEEK in site __________________


This lets the dad that brings the radio stay in his campsite
where he probably has assigned duties, but it also lets other
scouts come visit.

Bob, WB4APR

On Fri, 4 Jul 2008, JonEMac wrote:

> I'm off with our troop next week for Summer Camp.

Have fun, and have great weather (I hope)!

> Has anyone else brought an HF rig to camp?  How did it work out?

I did, this past week at Camp Rotary in Michigan, and it was fun.  I've
also done so in past years and worked quite a few.  I brought the TS690
powered by an old car battery, and an 80m doublet about 40 feet up in the
trees (fed with ladder line).  The main purpose was to get in the Canada
Day contest and I made about 65 QSOs.  Several of the boys were
interested, as well as many of the adults and visitors to our site,
including the camp commissioner.  I tried to keep the SCCP schedule a
couple times but there was just no response, but most of the hams I worked
outside the contest were either scouts as a youth or involved currently in
some way. I've found that if you mention you are at a scout camp, you'll
frequently find out the other ham has a scouting connection as well.
It's also great to put the boys on the air just to say hi, if they are up
to it.  Looking at my Bencher paddle, one boy said "Is that a telegraph
key? I didn't know they still made those."

I agree with Don - bring some wattage.  QRP is fun, and can be a
challenge, but unless you plan on working mainly CW or PSK31, you'll be
frustrated.  I had some trouble making contacts at 100w.

If you can bring the materials to do so, try offering the radio merit
badge, even if only for your own troop.  The camp might even help spread
the word and let you offer it camp-wide.

Good luck and let us know how you do!

--
Yours in Scouting,
Frank Maynard, NF8M
CC, Troop 407; CR, Pack 54, Novi, Michigan
Ottawa District Training Chair, Clinton Valley Council
Trustee, WB8BSA ...and a good old Bobwhite too! (C-23-04)

I have taken my radio to camp several times and always had a great
time.  Only problem was we would run out of places for everyone to
sit.  The radio would be running off batteries, G5RV up in the tree,
and we would have QSOs around the camp fire while sipping coffe and
making cobbler in the Dutch Ovens.

This year Gerber Scout Camp Reservation said they are going to have a
radio in place all summer in one of the lodges for use.  Of course,
control operators will be present.  I have not been to the camp to
see if in fact, it has been setup.  There are other camps in Michigan
that due have permanent year around amateur stations setup.

Take it and have fun!
Best Regards,
Rich "Doc" AC8AL

--- In ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com, "JonEMac" <w2mc@...> wrote:
>
> I'm off with our troop next week for Summer Camp.
>
> I'm debating taking either an Icom 706 or a Yaesu 817, for demo and
> (perhaps) if anyone wants to work on Radio Merit Badge.
>
> Has anyone else brought an HF rig to camp?  How did it work out?
>
> Jon
> W2MC
> ASM, Troop 48 Medford Lakes NJ
>

Hi Jon,

My first year at camp with my troop, I took my radio.  I got a warm
welcome from the staff.  Having a feel for the land, the next year I
offered to do the Radio Merit badge.  I had 25 in my class (this was a
small camp). There was one young scout 12 or 13 that really got into it.
I had one of the best locations in camp to set up.  On the front porch
of the office building overlooking the lake.  It doesn't get any better
than that.

I got my start in ham radio from the Boy Scouts.  It took me until I was
about 40 to get my licenses, but I did.  Chances are without being
expose to it by the Scouting program I would have never considered it.
I hope that some of the seeds I planted with the 3 years with my radio
program will take root.  You never know how a single event like this can
touch a passion in a Scout.

I would say go for it.  Call the camp ahead of time and make
arrangements.  It is also a good idea to have some scheds so that you
can get the boys on the air.

Good luck and 73


--

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> This year Gerber Scout Camp Reservation said they
> are going to have a radio in place all summer in
> one of the lodges for use...

We had a similar offer for a permanent ham station at one of our
camps.  But try as we could, it was impopssible to keep manned,
and so the typical scout would always see a padlocked door.  And
since he had to hike across camp to see if someone was there, it
didn't take long for most scouts not to bother.

So we came up with the two ideas:
1) If there is such a site, then have a remote control link to a
sign in the center of camp that lights up "ON AIR" when the
shack is open, so that scouts can decide to take the hike...

2) Put a permanent sign in the mess hall (or other central
place) that announces "Ham radio demo this week in campsite
_____________."  This lets different troops and different dads
at different times bring their own equipment and be available
for mentoring where they are comfortable for a far greater
amount of time, since they are required to be at the campsite
with their troop much more often...

Something like that.  My web page (not updated in years ):

http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/shacks4packs.html

Good luck.
Bob, Wb4APR

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Has anyone else brought an HF rig to camp?  How did it work out?

[ end snip ]

Below is a link to something I wrote for a Scouting newsletter that might
answer your question. Starts on page 3. Still doing this. Main change now
(after two years) is I no longer take an IC-746 out in the field (too
delicate). My TS-480SAT or other radios that can survive in a typical mobile
situation do just fine. By that, I mean that if a radio can last inside an
automobile (with windows rolled down and dust blowing all over), it can
probably stand up to being used outdoors many times a year. Allow the
expensive radios designed for an air-conditioned room to sit at home.

http://homepage.mac.com/k2frd/EagleSep2006.pdf

73 de NX8J