Thanks to QBSA and K2BSA this is probably the closest
I've come to being at the National Jamboree. Based on
the number of scouts I've run across on the air and
the number of DJ's I've heard on QBSA I suspect there
will be a radio merit badge patch shortage for
awhile.

Its been fun taking part form home. Thanks for sharing
all the experiences with those of us who could nto
attend.

Brian K9WIS



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You can see the QBSA studio in the Boom Box plus photos of the QBSA
staff at www.qbsa.troop184.net

Great job guys!  I'll be going through withdrawal after they leave the
air on Wednesday!

73

Gary Wilson, K2GW

----- Original Message -----

From: Gary Wilson

To: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 6:56 PM

Subject: [ScoutRadio] QBSA Website with photos

You can see the QBSA studio in the Boom Box plus photos of the QBSA
staff at www.qbsa.troop184.net

Great job guys!  I'll be going through withdrawal after they leave the
air on Wednesday!

73

Gary Wilson, K2GW

The programming was especially enjoyable for those of
us who were tuning into our FM radioes in the 70's.
Lots of tunes that were hits before those kids were
born.

Brian K9WIS

PS IF anyone picks up an extra staff shirt at one of
those trading post sales I would be interested in
buying it from you. (size XL)



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--- In ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Pearl - W4ABC" <jonpearl@t...>
wrote:
> www.qbsa.troop184.net
>
> Good address, Gary?

I was close.  See if this works as a link:

http://qbsa.troop184.net/


If not, just type  qbsa.troop184.net  in your browser.

Check out the bios of the staff and you'll see why it was such a
professional production.

73

Gary, K2GW

Briefly:
The K2BSA operation at the National BSA Jamboree
was headed up by Ray Moyer WD8JKV and many
others on his experienced management team who have
been to previous National Jamboree operations.    Many
of us were experienced in Radio Scouting on a smaller scale.
But we were first-timers to such a huge Jamboree event
like this one... where 40,000 scouts were at
the base.

52 hams who are also registered scouts or
Scout Leaders were on the K2BSA staff for this operation.
We were each on one or more of the following teams:

K2BSA Demo Team
License Prep Training Team
Radio Merit Badge Team
VE Team

Some worked as demo/operators in the K2BSA station tent.
HUNDREDS of scouts EACH DAY would come to this
tent for a 20 minute demo/hands on experience with
Ham Radio.  For most of them, it was their first
exposure to the hobby-service.
We had dedicated stations for 10m, 15m, 20m, 80m,
40m, 2m+440 repeater, ATV
on several bands, one ATV was attached to a
Radio Controlled car "Rover" that the boys could
navigate remotely, Several Satellite contacts were
made.  (The sched with the ISS was cancelled due
to the extra workload the crew is dealing with up
there surrounding possible damage to the orbiter.)
Hundreds of scouts each day got their tour and
hands-on demo or qso by this team.   There was
even a laser unit to show which had been used
in some mountain topping qsos.
There was a long list of equipment loaners/donors and
station sponsors.   We had a 5 element 20m monobander
which performed great for us in this period of low
sunspot activity.

Over 325 hams came by K2BSA tents and signed in.
These were scouts or leaders who were participants
who were hams, but not a part of the K2BSA staff.
A 7:00pm net on the K2BSA repeater each night
had a large number them checking in.

Another team was the Merit Badge team.
This group broke the merit badge down into
3 one-hour parts (Theory, Practical, and Amateur option)
and helped over 400 boys earn their Radio Merit Badge.
Over 100 "partials" were also given out for the
boys to complete back home.

Several individuals teamed up to teach daily
4 hour crash course + 4 hour review+practice
test sessions for Scouts and leaders who wanted
to get their license.   Many succeeded.

Six evening VE Sessions were conducted on-site with
well over 200 indivuduals signing up for exams.
Over 100 new hams were licensed at the Jamboree,
plus several upgrades were issued.
One night there was over 80 examinees to handle,
and the session went later than 10pm.
There were about 20 ARRL VE's among the K2BSA staff
to assist in this testing effort, in many cases after putting in
a full day's work with the boys program.

Larry Wolfgang WR1B of the ARRL was among
the many experienced scout leaders and Ham operators
on the K2BSA staff.

I was not the team's statistician, so my numbers above
are not exact.  But at each morning's
K2BSA Staff Meeting we would brief each other with
the numbers we had.   So, I can pass on the above info
as an accurate picture of the operation.

There were no injuries or health issues surrounding
the K2BSA operation.  It was a safe week for all
those participating in our part of the operation.

Challenges included:  HEAT & Humidity, No A/C,
sheer Number of participants,
Transportation delays around the Jamboree's
many venues,  All the K2BSA TX, Fans, Lights, and support
gear running on one 20 amp circuit breaker.

Luxuries included: Shower and Laundry facilities were nice.
Electricity in our sleeping tents.
Most of us brought fans to help us get cool on our
cots at night.

The Jamboree was a great thing to be a part of... a great
experience.   I particularly enjoyed my shifts on the
Merit Badge team, and engaging the scouts with this very
stimulating subject matter.

Ray Sirois N1RY

Briefly:
The K2BSA operation at the National BSA Jamboree
was headed up by Ray Moyer WD8JKV and many
others on his experienced management team who have
been to previous National Jamboree operations.    Many
of us were experienced in Radio Scouting on a smaller scale.
But we were first-timers to such a huge Jamboree event
like this one... where 40,000 scouts were at
the base.

52 hams who are also registered scouts or
Scout Leaders were on the K2BSA staff for this operation.  
We were each on one or more of the following teams:

K2BSA Demo Team
License Prep Training Team
Radio Merit Badge Team
VE Team

Some worked as demo/operators in the K2BSA station tent.
HUNDREDS of scouts EACH DAY would come to this
tent for a 20 minute demo/hands on experience with
Ham Radio.  For most of them, it was their first
exposure to the hobby-service.
We had dedicated stations for 10m, 15m, 20m, 80m,
40m, 2m+440 repeater, ATV
on several bands, one ATV was attached to a
Radio Controlled car "Rover" that the boys could
navigate remotely, Several Satellite contacts were
made.  (The sched with the ISS was cancelled due
to the extra workload the crew is dealing with up
there surrounding possible damage to the orbiter.)
Hundreds of scouts each day got their tour and
hands-on demo or qso by this team.   There was
even a laser unit to show which had been used
in some mountain topping qsos.
There was a long list of equipment loaners/donors and
station sponsors.   We had a 5 element 20m monobander
which performed great for us in this period of low
sunspot activity.

Over 325 hams came by K2BSA tents and signed in.
These were scouts or leaders who were participants
who were hams, but not a part of the K2BSA staff.
A 7:00pm net on the K2BSA repeater each night
had a large number them checking in.

Another team was the Merit Badge team.
This group broke the merit badge down into
3 one-hour parts (Theory, Practical, and Amateur option)
and helped over 400 boys earn their Radio Merit Badge.
Over 100 "partials" were also given out for the
boys to complete back home.

Several individuals teamed up to teach daily
4 hour crash course + 4 hour review+practice
test sessions for Scouts and leaders who wanted
to get their license.   Many succeeded.

Six evening VE Sessions were conducted on-site with
well over 200 indivuduals signing up for exams.
Over 100 new hams were licensed at the Jamboree,
plus several upgrades were issued.
One night there was over 80 examinees to handle,
and the session went later than 10pm.
There were about 20 ARRL VE's among the K2BSA staff
to assist in this testing effort, in many cases after putting in
a full day's work with the boys program.

Larry Wolfgang WR1B of the ARRL was among
the many experienced scout leaders and Ham operators
on the K2BSA staff.

I was not the team's statistician, so my numbers above
are not exact.  But at each morning's
K2BSA Staff Meeting we would brief each other with
the numbers we had.   So, I can pass on the above info
as an accurate picture of the operation.

There were no injuries or health issues surrounding
the K2BSA operation.  It was a safe week for all
those participating in our part of the operation.

Challenges included:  HEAT & Humidity, No A/C,
sheer Number of participants,
Transportation delays around the Jamboree's
many venues,  All the K2BSA TX, Fans, Lights, and support
gear running on one 20 amp circuit breaker.

Luxuries included: Shower and Laundry facilities were nice. 
Electricity in our sleeping tents. 
Most of us brought fans to help us get cool on our
cots at night.

The Jamboree was a great thing to be a part of... a great
experience.   I particularly enjoyed my shifts on the
Merit Badge team, and engaging the scouts with this very
stimulating subject matter.

Ray Sirois N1RY

Ray,

Likewise, thanks for the update. For those of us who couldn't attend,
receiving updates via this list, working K2BSA when possible, and
listening to "QBSA" on the web were the next best thing.

Hoping to be considered for staff next time...
YiS,
Frank Maynard, NF8M
CM, Pack 54; MC, Troop 407; District Cub Training Chair & Roundtable Staff
...and a good old Bobwhite too! (C-23-04)
Mighty Ottawa District, Clinton Valley Council (10 Year Quality District)
Novi, Michigan

Ray:

Excellent summary!  I suggest you send a copy to N1RL@... for
use by the league while the story is still current.  The Merit badge
and licensing efforts are phenonemal!

Although I couldn't be there due to work, between QBSA streaming,
being the other end for three scouts in a twenty minute QSO on 40,
and forwarding 35 NTS messages from parents in NJ to Scouts at
Jambo, I felt a bit of a connection.

Thanks to you and all of the folks for your hard work.  See you at
the Hill in 2010.

73

Yours in Scouting,

Gary Wilson, K2GW
Radio MB Counselor
Central New Jersey Council, BSA

1964 Jamboree Participant

Dear Ham Scouters:

I too served on the staff of K2BSA this Jamboree, and want to
congratulate Ray Sirois, N1RY, for his superb summary of
accomplishments at K2BSA.  While the staff size grew by 6 from 42 to
48, some numbers were down.  The number of those starting and
completing the Radio Merit Badge was down about 35% to 40% from
2001.  I believe this can be attributed to the intense heat and the
badge having less square footage and classroom space.  Several other
badges near the Radio Merit Badge were also down by the same
approximate percentages from their 2001 numbers.

As for K2BSA itself, there were fewer countries contacted.  109 in
2001 and 27 was the last posting on the tote board for 2005.  HF
conditions were challenging with the decline in the sunspot cycle.
No question, the highlight of K2BSA this time around were the 100 new
licenses awarded through the VE testing sessions.  The new format of
teaching the Tech license through the one day W8BBS method resulted
in lower passing rates the first round of testing, and marginal
success in subsequent testing.  I think it would be best to reserve
comments on this until Dave Gaddis, KE4KPC, head of the K2BSA
Licensing Group, provides a formal analysis.

There were some remarks about the lack of CW. K2BSA's traditional
warhorse of CW, Shelly Weil (K2BS), did not join us this year because
of an illness in his family.  Bob Johnson, K3RC, did NTS on CW, and
others blended it in with phone.  If you haven't been to Jamboree,
you are tired at the end of the day because of the vigorous exercise
of walking everywhere and the heat sapping your strength.  I slept at
the K2BSA tent one night as the overnight security guard and repeater
monitor, and the last operators left by 1:30 A.M. because you have to
be up, fed and ready for the next day.  So despite good intentions,
the station was dark from 1:30 to 7:30 Eastern almost every night.
Kudos need to go to Nathaniel Frissel, W2NAF, a Youth staff member
majoring in Music and Physics at Montclair State U. in New Jersey.
Nathaniel faithfully would pound brass on 40 meters from 10 PM to
Midnight on the Ten-Tec Jupiter.  In an era when CW holds little
interest to younger people, Nathaniel was a beacon in putting K2BSA
on-the-air regularly with CW.  Who cares if he only paddled along at
10 WPM?  Cut the kid some slack and QRS; it was a joy to watch a
young person get into CW.

Having served on the staff of K2BSA at the 2001 and 2005 Jamborees, I
will tell you that the staff of K2BSA this year was solid and
delivered reliable results that should please BSA top brass.  K2BSA
can hold its head high.  I will go on record, however, as critical of
BSA National staff for their inept management of pan-Jamboree
events.  99% of the Jamboree went flawlessly with dedicated Scouters,
but the Yellow bars were largely responsible for the gaffs that gave
the Jamboree a black eye - especially with their handling of heat
related issues surrounding the Arena shows.

Finally, there were questions about post Jamboree reports and
publicity for K2BSA.  To my surprise and others, the editors of QST
were not interested in promoting K2BSA in advance, while CQ embraced
the chance with its 4 page story in its July issue.  Larry Wolfgang
(WR1B), Mark Abramowicz (NT3V) and I plan to submit a collaborative
article to QST as a post-event article.  Also, those who live in the
southeast will see an article in the Repeater Journal of SERA, the
Southeastern Repeater Association.  Moreover, Andrea Hartlage,
KG4IUM, Youth Editor at ARRL, has already contacted the 5 Youth staff
members of K2BSA for a follow-up on her blog.  She's been very
supportive of K2BSA, and I invite you to check out her column on
ARRL's website.

Thanks to all for their support, interest and attempts to contact
K2BSA.

73,
Bill Morine, N2COP
Radio Merit Badge Instructor - 2001 & 2005 National Jamborees
ARRL Public Information Coordinator - North Carolina Section
Member - ARRL National Public Relations Committee

The ARRL jumped on the article I sent them about K2BSA
and sending traffic to scouts. They ran it two days
after I submitted it on the ARRL website. I found you
have to get the article to the right editor at the
right time. I wish I knew someone at Boys Life, talk
about a hard sell.

I heard stories from a guy in our area that one of the
big problems was the amount of visitors crowding out
scouts at some of the events. And yes, scarcity of
water.

But everyone I ran into at church this morning who
came back from the Jamobree made it a point to mention
that they visited K2BSA. Good Job.

Brian K9WIS

--- ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com wrote:

> There is 1 message in this issue.
>
> Topics in this digest:
>
>       1. K2BSA  Post Mortems
>            From: "Bill Morine" <n2cop@...>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________
>
________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 1
>    Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2005 13:27:00 -0000
>    From: "Bill Morine" <n2cop@...>
> Subject: K2BSA  Post Mortems
>
> Dear Ham Scouters:
>
> I too served on the staff of K2BSA this Jamboree,
> and want to
> congratulate Ray Sirois, N1RY, for his superb
> summary of
> accomplishments at K2BSA.  While the staff size grew
> by 6 from 42 to
> 48, some numbers were down.  The number of those
> starting and
> completing the Radio Merit Badge was down about 35%
> to 40% from
> 2001.  I believe this can be attributed to the
> intense heat and the
> badge having less square footage and classroom
> space.  Several other
> badges near the Radio Merit Badge were also down by
> the same
> approximate percentages from their 2001 numbers.
>
> As for K2BSA itself, there were fewer countries
> contacted.  109 in
> 2001 and 27 was the last posting on the tote board
> for 2005.  HF
> conditions were challenging with the decline in the
> sunspot cycle.
> No question, the highlight of K2BSA this time around
> were the 100 new
> licenses awarded through the VE testing sessions.
> The new format of
> teaching the Tech license through the one day W8BBS
> method resulted
> in lower passing rates the first round of testing,
> and marginal
> success in subsequent testing.  I think it would be
> best to reserve
> comments on this until Dave Gaddis, KE4KPC, head of
> the K2BSA
> Licensing Group, provides a formal analysis.
>
> There were some remarks about the lack of CW.
> K2BSA's traditional
> warhorse of CW, Shelly Weil (K2BS), did not join us
> this year because
> of an illness in his family.  Bob Johnson, K3RC, did
> NTS on CW, and
> others blended it in with phone.  If you haven't
> been to Jamboree,
> you are tired at the end of the day because of the
> vigorous exercise
> of walking everywhere and the heat sapping your
> strength.  I slept at
> the K2BSA tent one night as the overnight security
> guard and repeater
> monitor, and the last operators left by 1:30 A.M.
> because you have to
> be up, fed and ready for the next day.  So despite
> good intentions,
> the station was dark from 1:30 to 7:30 Eastern
> almost every night.
> Kudos need to go to Nathaniel Frissel, W2NAF, a
> Youth staff member
> majoring in Music and Physics at Montclair State U.
> in New Jersey.
> Nathaniel faithfully would pound brass on 40 meters
> from 10 PM to
> Midnight on the Ten-Tec Jupiter.  In an era when CW
> holds little
> interest to younger people, Nathaniel was a beacon
> in putting K2BSA
> on-the-air regularly with CW.  Who cares if he only
> paddled along at
> 10 WPM?  Cut the kid some slack and QRS; it was a
> joy to watch a
> young person get into CW.
>
> Having served on the staff of K2BSA at the 2001 and
> 2005 Jamborees, I
> will tell you that the staff of K2BSA this year was
> solid and
> delivered reliable results that should please BSA
> top brass.  K2BSA
> can hold its head high.  I will go on record,
> however, as critical of
> BSA National staff for their inept management of
> pan-Jamboree
> events.  99% of the Jamboree went flawlessly with
> dedicated Scouters,
> but the Yellow bars were largely responsible for the
> gaffs that gave
> the Jamboree a black eye - especially with their
> handling of heat
> related issues surrounding the Arena shows.
>
> Finally, there were questions about post Jamboree
> reports and
> publicity for K2BSA.  To my surprise and others, the
> editors of QST
> were not interested in promoting K2BSA in advance,
> while CQ embraced
> the chance with its 4 page story in its July issue.
> Larry Wolfgang
> (WR1B), Mark Abramowicz (NT3V) and I plan to submit
> a collaborative
> article to QST as a post-event article.  Also, those
> who live in the
> southeast will see an article in the Repeater
> Journal of SERA, the
> Southeastern Repeater Association.  Moreover, Andrea
> Hartlage,
> KG4IUM, Youth Editor at ARRL, has already contacted
> the 5 Youth staff
> members of K2BSA for a follow-up on her blog.  She's
> been very
> supportive of K2BSA, and I invite you to check out
> her column on
> ARRL's website.
>
> Thanks to all for their support, interest and
> attempts to contact
> K2BSA.
>
> 73,
> Bill Morine, N2COP
> Radio Merit Badge Instructor - 2001 & 2005 National
> Jamborees
> ARRL Public Information Coordinator - North Carolina
> Section
> Member - ARRL National Public Relations Committee
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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>
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Club station KC5OUR will be hosting NM Troop 111 during our
annual "Get Your Radio Merit Badge Day" on August 13.  Expect the
scouts will be on the air starting about 1500 UTC and running to about
1800 UTC so each can make their required 10-minute HF QSO.  Around
14.277 if 20 M is open or 7.277 if we need to go to 40 M.  We hope to
have each scout visit with a different station (maybe high hopes), so
would appreciate your help with a contact (or maybe several contacts
if band conditions limit who we can hear).  73, Ralph NM5RC

I will be at a cub scout campout and will try and
contact you

What time in EST is it?

Steve Milligan

W1IEU

--- nm5rc <nm5rc@...> wrote:

> Club station KC5OUR will be hosting NM Troop 111
> during our
> annual "Get Your Radio Merit Badge Day" on August
> 13.  Expect the
> scouts will be on the air starting about 1500 UTC
> and running to about
> 1800 UTC so each can make their required 10-minute
> HF QSO.  Around
> 14.277 if 20 M is open or 7.277 if we need to go to
> 40 M.  We hope to
> have each scout visit with a different station
> (maybe high hopes), so
> would appreciate your help with a contact (or maybe
> several contacts
> if band conditions limit who we can hear).  73,
> Ralph NM5RC
>
>
>
>
>




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Dear Fellow Ham Scouters:

I am a member of ARRL's National Public Relations Committee.  Last
night during our monthly teleconference call, our committee's
chairman alerted us that ARRL's board created an Ad Hoc subcommittee
on Scouting and Amateur Radio.  Attached is a hyperlink to that
subcommittee's two page report, plus I uploaded the file to this
group's file section as a Word document.

In reading the report, it appears that the group believes the current
version of the Radio Merit Badge curriculum is appropriately up-to-
date, but that the Scouting On-The-Air brochure and the JOTA page on
the ARRL website need overhauling.

Brian Mileshosky, former K2BSA staff member from the 2001 Jamboree
and Hiram Percy Maxim Youth Award recipient, is a subcommittee
member, but I'm unfamiliar with the other members and their
relationship to Scouting.  Surprisingly, the ARRL staff member
perhaps most qualified to serve this committee, Larry Wolfgang
(WR1B), is not the staff liaison.  Larry has served on the K2BSA
staff for many Jamborees and holds a JOTA weekend every year in his
Three Rivers Connecticut Council.  He's also active in getting Youth
licensed.

http://www.arrl.org/announce/reports-2005/july/

73,
Bill Morine, N2COP
Radio Merit Badge Instructor
2001 and 2005 National Jamboree

Now maybe the League can convince BSA and WOSM to get the BSA/WOSM 20m CW
calling frequency off the international PSK-31 frequency of 14.070.

At 12:59 +0000 11/08/2005, Bill Morine wrote:
>Dear Fellow Ham Scouters:
>
>I am a member of ARRL's National Public Relations Committee.  Last
>night during our monthly teleconference call, our committee's
>chairman alerted us that ARRL's board created an Ad Hoc subcommittee
>on Scouting and Amateur Radio.  Attached is a hyperlink to that
>subcommittee's two page report, plus I uploaded the file to this
>group's file section as a Word document.
>
>In reading the report, it appears that the group believes the current
>version of the Radio Merit Badge curriculum is appropriately up-to-
>date, but that the Scouting On-The-Air brochure and the JOTA page on
>the ARRL website need overhauling.
>
>Brian Mileshosky, former K2BSA staff member from the 2001 Jamboree
>and Hiram Percy Maxim Youth Award recipient, is a subcommittee
>member, but I'm unfamiliar with the other members and their
>relationship to Scouting.  Surprisingly, the ARRL staff member
>perhaps most qualified to serve this committee, Larry Wolfgang
>(WR1B), is not the staff liaison.  Larry has served on the K2BSA
>staff for many Jamborees and holds a JOTA weekend every year in his
>Three Rivers Connecticut Council.  He's also active in getting Youth
>licensed.
>
>http://www.arrl.org/announce/reports-2005/july/
>
>73,
>Bill Morine, N2COP
>Radio Merit Badge Instructor
>2001 and 2005 National Jamboree

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Subject: Re: [ScoutRadio] ARRL creates Ad Hoc Subcommittee on Scouting & Amateur Radio

Now maybe the League can convince BSA and WOSM to get the BSA/WOSM 20m CW calling frequency off the international PSK-31 frequency of 14.070.

At 12:59 +0000 11/08/2005, Bill Morine wrote:
>Dear Fellow Ham Scouters:
>
>I am a member of ARRL's National Public Relations Committee.  Last
>night during our monthly teleconference call, our committee's
>chairman alerted us that ARRL's board created an Ad Hoc subcommittee
>on Scouting and Amateur Radio.  Attached is a hyperlink to that
>subcommittee's two page report, plus I uploaded the file to this
>group's file section as a Word document.
>
>In reading the report, it appears that the group believes the current
>version of the Radio Merit Badge curriculum is appropriately up-to-
>date, but that the Scouting On-The-Air brochure and the JOTA page on
>the ARRL website need overhauling.
>
>Brian Mileshosky, former K2BSA staff member from the 2001 Jamboree
>and Hiram Percy Maxim Youth Award recipient, is a subcommittee
>member, but I'm unfamiliar with the other members and their
>relationship to Scouting.  Surprisingly, the ARRL staff member
>perhaps most qualified to serve this committee, Larry Wolfgang
>(WR1B), is not the staff liaison.  Larry has served on the K2BSA
>staff for many Jamborees and holds a JOTA weekend every year in his
>Three Rivers Connecticut Council.  He's also active in getting Youth
>licensed.
>
>http://www.arrl.org/announce/reports-2005/july/
>
>73,
>Bill Morine, N2COP
>Radio Merit Badge Instructor
>2001 and 2005 National Jamboree

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More than that. I believe that a formal relationship between the League
and the BSA/GSUSA would be in order. Something along the same lines
as the MOU between the League and the Red Cross except in this case it
would be an educational relationship.
I also think that, not knowing the make up of the ad hoc committee, that
League member Scouters should be more involved in building this
relationship.
There are many of us here on this list that are both Scouters of many
years and League members of many years this pool of knowledge should be
utilized by the League.

73,

Bill Stewart, W2BSA, National Capital Area Council, Colonial District,
Health and Safety, Chairperson

Fred Stevens K2FRD wrote:

> Now maybe the League can convince BSA and WOSM to get the BSA/WOSM 20m
> CW calling frequency off the international PSK-31 frequency of 14.070.
>
> At 12:59 +0000 11/08/2005, Bill Morine wrote:
> >Dear Fellow Ham Scouters:
> >
> >I am a member of ARRL's National Public Relations Committee.  Last
> >night during our monthly teleconference call, our committee's
> >chairman alerted us that ARRL's board created an Ad Hoc subcommittee
> >on Scouting and Amateur Radio.  Attached is a hyperlink to that
> >subcommittee's two page report, plus I uploaded the file to this
> >group's file section as a Word document.
> >
> >In reading the report, it appears that the group believes the current
> >version of the Radio Merit Badge curriculum is appropriately up-to-
> >date, but that the Scouting On-The-Air brochure and the JOTA page on
> >the ARRL website need overhauling.
> >
> >Brian Mileshosky, former K2BSA staff member from the 2001 Jamboree
> >and Hiram Percy Maxim Youth Award recipient, is a subcommittee
> >member, but I'm unfamiliar with the other members and their
> >relationship to Scouting.  Surprisingly, the ARRL staff member
> >perhaps most qualified to serve this committee, Larry Wolfgang
> >(WR1B), is not the staff liaison.  Larry has served on the K2BSA
> >staff for many Jamborees and holds a JOTA weekend every year in his
> >Three Rivers Connecticut Council.  He's also active in getting Youth
> >licensed.
> >
> >http://www.arrl.org/announce/reports-2005/july/
> >
> >73,
> >Bill Morine, N2COP
> >Radio Merit Badge Instructor
> >2001 and 2005 National Jamboree
>
> --
> 73 de Fred K2FRD, VO2FS
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Bill and Frank both bring up excellent perspectives. I think the only means by
which we are going to see any institutional change is via pressure from us
ham-Scouters; this Group is as good a place as any as a venue for such change.
All of us have a vested interest in both Scouting and ham radio and we are all
willing and anxious to see mutually positive changes in both programs. In fact,
thinking on it, I don't know of any other organized ham-Scouting group with
potentially as much influence as this group. Perhaps we need to start (at the
least) an email or letter-writing campaign and muster support at both the
national and international levels. (I'm still at Scout Camp and am still pressed
for time, but can become more active after camp and this fall.)

73 de Fred K2FRD, VO2FS
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At 9:37 -0400 11/08/2005, Bill Stewart wrote:
>More than that. I believe that a formal relationship between the League
>and the BSA/GSUSA would be in order. Something along the same lines
>as the MOU between the League and the Red Cross except in this case it
>would be an educational relationship.
>I also think that, not knowing the make up of the ad hoc committee, that
>League member Scouters should be more involved in building this
>relationship.
>There are many of us here on this list that are both Scouters of many
>years and League members of many years this pool of knowledge should be
>utilized by the League.

At 9:30 -0400 11/08/2005, Frank Krizan wrote:
>And, while we're on the issue of correctness,
>
>It's GSUSA not GSA.
>
>see <http://www.girlscouts.org/>http://www.girlscouts.org/
>
>I'm glad to see some level of interest in the interface between ARRL and the
BSA and GSUSA.  There's a great deal going on in BSA regarding Emergency
Preparedness/Homeland Security not addressed by the MB requirements.  This
wasn't mentioned in the report.  Seems to me that getting someone like Ray Moyer
from BSA HQ and someone from GSUSA, along with ARRL, to discuss relationships
would also be a good idea.
>
>JOTA is international, but, let's face it, most contacts are local or national.
I think the JOTA brochures should be revamped for the USA to more closely
reflect what is and can be done here at home.  It's fun to contact other
countries, but, Third Party Agreements often get in the way.  Many Techs are
scared away from participating in JOTA because they think if they can't get on
HF, then they can't help.  There's IRLP and EchoLink ... and repeaters and
simplex ... and satellites and VHF/UHF sideband.
>
>Fred K2FRD makes a good point.  International has been reluctant to change
14070 or even add a comment to the frequency.  It's the old NIH syndrone.  I'd
like to see the frequency chart changed to a range of frequencies instead of one
calling freq.  14290, for example, has a number of nets on it that get stepped
on by many JOTA groups.  The US moved 7290 to 7270 to avoid a major traffic net.
How about suggestions for the VHF/UHF bands?  Also, APRS, Packet, PSK-31, etc.
recommendations.
>
>73, Frank KR1ZAN
>Garland, TX (... but portable in Scarborough, ME)

--
73 de Fred K2FRD, VO2FS
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Does anyone know when the official circular doer 2005 will be posted
on http://www.scout.org/wse/jota.shtml

Larry Worthington (KC9HDP)
Advancment Chair Troop 11 La Crosse WI
JOTA 2005 Riverland Amaure Radio Club

Hi group,

I would like to start a discussion on the Scout CW frequency on 20M.

14.070 MHz is taken over by PSK. If we want to see the recommendation
of 14.070 MHz change then we need to come with a suggestion.

Any change will step on some toes / nets.
This news group is some what US centric and I am not a CW operator but
I hope we can come up with a suggestion that is satisfactory for
everybody.

Once we have a (or some) suggestion(s) we can make a recommendation to
WOSM and they might be able to poll the NJOs (national JOTA organizers).

This will not be a change that will happen overnight and probably not
before this year's JOTA.

When replying please add your call and / or country code to your comments.
Example:
KG4ZZZ suggested 14.060 but G8XXX objects because of a national net in
the UK on Saturdays

YIS,

Sjaak, W4RIS ex-PA3GVR

----- Original Message -----

From: jhun dacanay

To: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 4:29 AM

Subject: Re: [ScoutRadio] JOTA

Hi larry hope this will help you regarding the circular for 2005 memo

73,

 

DV1VGN - Jhun

Rover Leader

Rover Scout Circle 25

Manila Council, Boy Scout of the Philippines

 

 

Lawrence Worthington <kc9hdp@...> wrote:

Does anyone know when the official circular doer 2005 will be posted
on http://www.scout.org/wse/jota.shtml

Larry Worthington (KC9HDP)
Advancment Chair Troop 11 La Crosse WI
JOTA 2005 Riverland Amaure Radio Club

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This subject has been discussed in previous years. EXACTLY two years ago today,
the frequency 14.065 was suggested by Sean O'Suilleabhain EI3IP, National JOTA
Organizer for Ireland (see message below). Other frequencies between 14.060 and
14.067 have been suggested. However, we did not see any changes because the WOSM
JOTA Coordinator preferred not to make the effort; BSA JOTA Coordinator deferred
to WOSM, so no other pressure was brought to bear on WOSM. With the addition of
the League into ham-Scouting affairs, we can only hope that the combined efforts
will bring about a change.

An additional note: 14.070 is at the extreme upper limit of most CW band plans
or, if one reads the band plans from one perspective ("to" instead of
"through"), is actually outside the 20m CW range. The fact that 14.070 is on the
cusp and was not clearly spoken for by other modes is the reason it was selected
for PSK.

FWIW, the proposed ARRL plans to change the band plans via use by bandwidth, if
ever officially adopted wouldn't be effective for a number of years. The time to
change JOTA and the international Scouting 20m CW frequency is now before there
is even more interference on the PSK-31 spectrum.

73 de Fred K2FRD, VO2FS

At 21:28 +0100 12/08/2003, Seán O'Súilleabháin wrote:
>Before changing info on the Scouting Ireland (CSI) JOTA Webpage, I wish to
>confirm whether the suggested change of the JOTA 20m CW frequency to 14.065
>been adopted / agreed (pl see JOTAsked mail below)?
>
>If not yet adopted I would be in favour changing the 20m CW frequency to
>14.065 if this is agreeable to you and other NJO's as the PSK mode is
>operated in Ireland and other countries during JOTA.  Perhaps we should
>discuss.
>
>Regards
>
>Sean
>
>Seán Ó'Súilleabháin EI3IP
>National JOTA Organiser
>Scouting Ireland (CSI)
>
>http://www.qsl.net/ei3ip/jota.htm


At 13:10 +0000 12/08/2005, Sjaak van Dam wrote:
>Hi group,
>
>I would like to start a discussion on the Scout CW frequency on 20M.
>
>14.070 MHz is taken over by PSK. If we want to see the recommendation
>of 14.070 MHz change then we need to come with a suggestion.
>
>Any change will step on some toes / nets.
>This news group is some what US centric and I am not a CW operator but
>I hope we can come up with a suggestion that is satisfactory for
>everybody.
>
>Once we have a (or some) suggestion(s) we can make a recommendation to
>WOSM and they might be able to poll the NJOs (national JOTA organizers).
>
>This will not be a change that will happen overnight and probably not
>before this year's JOTA.
>
>When replying please add your call and / or country code to your comments.
>Example:
>KG4ZZZ suggested 14.060 but G8XXX objects because of a national net in
>the UK on Saturdays
>
>YIS,
>
>Sjaak, W4RIS ex-PA3GVR

--
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--- In ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com, Bill Stewart <w2bsa@c...> wrote:
> More than that. I believe that a formal relationship between the
League
> and the BSA/GSUSA would be in order.

> I also think that, not knowing the make up of the ad hoc
committee, that
> League member Scouters should be more involved in building this
> relationship.
> There are many of us here on this list that are both Scouters of
many
> years and League members of many years this pool of knowledge
should be
> utilized by the League.

Hear Hear!.

The fact that the committee spent time reviewing two Merit Badge
pamphlets that have little to do with the League is an indication
that active Scouter/Hams from this group need to be involved.

In addition to a formal MOU with BSA, the league should:

1.  Update the web page on teaching Radio MB to include the Power
Point slides, workbooks and agendas we have here in ScoutRadio.

2.  Provide an interactive web page for Boy Scouts learning the
Radio MB requirments.  Obviously the hands on stuff still needs to
be done directly with a counselor, but lots of the "book" stuff
could be done interactively.  Check out my Bird Study MB page on the
web for some ideas.

3.  Update the Scouts On the Air and Girl Scout pamphlets.  Have
Scouters from here proof them before publishing.

4.  Create 2 JOTA web pages and pamphlets.  One for hams and one for
Scouters who don't know a microphone from a megaphone.

5.  Createthe ARRL field appointments of Scouting Coordinator (SC)
and Assistant Scouting Coordinators (ASC).  Each Section would have
an SC and each council within that section would have an ASC.  Their
jobs would be to ensure that:
  1. A Radio MB day is run in each Council annually.
  2. That each troop knows of a location to participate in JOTA.
  3. That each parent of a Scout at a Jamboree has an e-mail address
of an NTS Traffic handler for relay of NTS traffic to their son.
  4.  That the local Ham community works to establish an Amateur
Radio station at every summer camp and ensure that a radio MB
counsleor is on the staff or available in the evening.

Other ideas are appreciated

73

Gary Wilson, K2GW
ARRL SNJ SEC, PIO and Life Member
BSA Forty year Veteran and Radio Merit Badge Counselor
Central NJ Council

----- Original Message -----

From: Gary Wilson

To: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 12:11 PM

Subject: [ScoutRadio] Re: ARRL creates Ad Hoc Subcommittee on Scouting & Amateur Radio

Hear Hear!. 

<<< Snip ... Snip >>>

 

5.  Createthe ARRL field appointments of Scouting Coordinator (SC)
and Assistant Scouting Coordinators (ASC).  Each Section would have
an SC and each council within that section would have an ASC.  Their
jobs would be to ensure that:
1. A Radio MB day is run in each Council annually.
2. That each troop knows of a location to participate in JOTA.
3. That each parent of a Scout at a Jamboree has an e-mail address
of an NTS Traffic handler for relay of NTS traffic to their son.
4.  That the local Ham community works to establish an Amateur
Radio station at every summer camp and ensure that a radio MB
counsleor is on the staff or available in the evening.

Other ideas are appreciated

73

Gary Wilson, K2GW
ARRL SNJ SEC, PIO and Life Member
BSA Forty year Veteran and Radio Merit Badge Counselor
Central NJ Council



<<< Snip ... Snip >>>

Frank , Gary
    Or you could have the meeting here in DFW in conjunction with Ham-Com
and event at the Scout HQ, or Camp Wisdom.

Allan - WB5QNG

Frank Krizan wrote:

> Gary,
>
> Good thoughts.  This is probably the time to let everyone know that
> the K2BSA Amateur Radio Association (KARA), which is a 501(c)
> organization formed several years ago to protect the K2BSA call sign
> and promote radio scouting is being revitalized by a bunch of us in
> the DFW area.  Since I am currently traveling and won't be home until
> mid-September, it will take a few months to get the ball rolling.
>
> Your suggestions for Field appointments through the League are good;
> however, that's another level of organization that the SMs and the
> League may not want to tackle.  We may want to use the KARA as a focal
> point for such organization and develop a close relationship with the
> ARRL, National BSA, GSUSA and others.  Since KARA is a 501(c), this
> may provide an opportunity to gather donations which can be allocated
> to scout groups throughout the US as grants (either equipment or dollars).
>
> For those of you who've ventured onto the JOTA Organizers web pages,
> http://home.versatel.nl/worldscout/Seminars/seminars.htm, you've
> probably noted that every three years, the EUs have a RadioScouting
> conference "over there."    I think the Ham scouters in the US should
> do something similar.  Maybe we could organize something similar to
> the AMSAT or Digital Conferences that migrate to different
> geographical parts of the nation ... or just have a meeting every year
> at Dayton ... or a meeting at National BSA in Irving, TX ... or at a
> different National BSA High Adventure camp ... or just Dayton ... or
> at the ARRL HQ.
>
> 73, Frank KR1ZAN
> Garland, TX (temporary portable in Scarborough, ME)
>
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* Gary Wilson <mailto:k2gw@...>
>     *To:* ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com>
>     *Sent:* Friday, August 12, 2005 12:11 PM
>     *Subject:* [ScoutRadio] Re: ARRL creates Ad Hoc Subcommittee on
>     Scouting & Amateur Radio
>
>     Hear Hear!.
>
>     <<< Snip ... Snip >>>
>
>     5.  Createthe ARRL field appointments of Scouting Coordinator (SC)
>     and Assistant Scouting Coordinators (ASC).  Each Section would have
>     an SC and each council within that section would have an ASC.  Their
>     jobs would be to ensure that:
>     1. A Radio MB day is run in each Council annually.
>     2. That each troop knows of a location to participate in JOTA.
>     3. That each parent of a Scout at a Jamboree has an e-mail address
>     of an NTS Traffic handler for relay of NTS traffic to their son.
>     4.  That the local Ham community works to establish an Amateur
>     Radio station at every summer camp and ensure that a radio MB
>     counsleor is on the staff or available in the evening.
>
>     Other ideas are appreciated
>
>     73
>
>     Gary Wilson, K2GW
>     ARRL SNJ SEC, PIO and Life Member
>     BSA Forty year Veteran and Radio Merit Badge Counselor
>     Central NJ Council
>

----- Original Message -----

From: Allan R. Batteiger

To: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 5:25 PM

Subject: Re: [ScoutRadio] Re: ARRL creates Ad Hoc Subcommittee on Scouting & Amateur Radio

Frank , Gary
   Or you could have the meeting here in DFW in conjunction with Ham-Com
and event at the Scout HQ, or Camp Wisdom.

Allan - WB5QNG

Frank Krizan wrote:

> Gary,
> 
> Good thoughts.  This is probably the time to let everyone know that
> the K2BSA Amateur Radio Association (KARA), which is a 501(c)
> organization formed several years ago to protect the K2BSA call sign
> and promote radio scouting is being revitalized by a bunch of us in
> the DFW area.  Since I am currently traveling and won't be home until
> mid-September, it will take a few months to get the ball rolling.
> 
> Your suggestions for Field appointments through the League are good;
> however, that's another level of organization that the SMs and the
> League may not want to tackle.  We may want to use the KARA as a focal
> point for such organization and develop a close relationship with the
> ARRL, National BSA, GSUSA and others.  Since KARA is a 501(c), this
> may provide an opportunity to gather donations which can be allocated
> to scout groups throughout the US as grants (either equipment or dollars).
> 
> For those of you who've ventured onto the JOTA Organizers web pages,
> http://home.versatel.nl/worldscout/Seminars/seminars.htm, you've
> probably noted that every three years, the EUs have a RadioScouting
> conference "over there."    I think the Ham scouters in the US should
> do something similar.  Maybe we could organize something similar to
> the AMSAT or Digital Conferences that migrate to different
> geographical parts of the nation ... or just have a meeting every year
> at Dayton ... or a meeting at National BSA in Irving, TX ... or at a
> different National BSA High Adventure camp ... or just Dayton ... or
> at the ARRL HQ.
> 
> 73, Frank KR1ZAN
> Garland, TX (temporary portable in Scarborough, ME)
> 
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* Gary Wilson <mailto:k2gw@...>
>     *To:* ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com>
>     *Sent:* Friday, August 12, 2005 12:11 PM
>     *Subject:* [ScoutRadio] Re: ARRL creates Ad Hoc Subcommittee on
>     Scouting & Amateur Radio
>
>     Hear Hear!.
>
>     <<< Snip ... Snip >>>
>     
>     5.  Createthe ARRL field appointments of Scouting Coordinator (SC)
>     and Assistant Scouting Coordinators (ASC).  Each Section would have
>     an SC and each council within that section would have an ASC.  Their
>     jobs would be to ensure that:
>     1. A Radio MB day is run in each Council annually.
>     2. That each troop knows of a location to participate in JOTA.
>     3. That each parent of a Scout at a Jamboree has an e-mail address
>     of an NTS Traffic handler for relay of NTS traffic to their son.
>     4.  That the local Ham community works to establish an Amateur
>     Radio station at every summer camp and ensure that a radio MB
>     counsleor is on the staff or available in the evening.
>
>     Other ideas are appreciated
>
>     73
>
>     Gary Wilson, K2GW
>     ARRL SNJ SEC, PIO and Life Member
>     BSA Forty year Veteran and Radio Merit Badge Counselor
>     Central NJ Council
>

--- In ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com, "Frank Krizan"
<frank.krizan@v...>

>This is probably the time to let everyone know that the K2BSA
Amateur Radio Association (KARA), which is a 501(c) organization
formed several years ago to protect the K2BSA call sign and promote
radio scouting is being revitalized by a bunch of us in the DFW
area.

> Your suggestions for Field appointments through the League are
good; however, that's another level of organization that the SMs and
the League may not want to tackle.

I already see an interest in increasing youth involvement with some
sections having ASM's for youth activities, so the time might be
right in the league.

>We may want to use the KARA as a focal point for such organization
and develop a close relationship with the ARRL, National BSA, GSUSA
and others.  Since KARA is a 501(c), this may provide an opportunity
to gather donations which can be allocated to scout groups throughout
the US as grants (either equipment or dollars).

That's an interesting idea, but it would have to be VERY tightly
linked with ARRL to avoid "balkanizing" an already tiny subgroup
(Scouters) within a small hobby (Amateur Radio).  The goal is to
increase the number of hams thinking about reaching out to Scouts,
not creating a small sub-group of the already converted.

> I think the Ham scouters in the US should do something similar.
Maybe we could organize something similar to the AMSAT or Digital
Conferences that migrate to different geographical parts of the
nation ... or just have a meeting every year at Dayton ... or a
meeting at National BSA in Irving, TX ... or at a different National
BSA High Adventure camp ... or just Dayton ... or at the ARRL HQ.

I attend Dayton every year and they do have a youth forum that
occasionally touches on Scouting.  I supect if we had enough interest
we could have a seperate one hour forum on Radio Scouting.  I
wouldn't mind organizing it.  Topics to start could be 1. Running a
Radio Merit Badge Day; 2. promoting JOTA, 3. building a station at
your camp.  Any volunteers for presenters?  I can do the first one in
my sleep.

73

Gary, K2GW

Gary
   Something to think about, for the last couple of years at Ham-Com we
have had a focus on Scouting and youth.  Scouts (BSA, GSUSA, Venture
etc)  in Uniform and their leaders get in free, we have a Radio merit
badge session (this year I think about 70 scouts got their Radio MB in a
1/2 day class and after class on air time).  This year we also had free
VE testing for Scouts, if they showed proof of passing an online test
exam.  Lunch was provided, and several stations were setup for on the
air contacts, these stations were also part of the Hamcom exhibits.  It
would be nice to see this duplicated at Dayton and other Hamfest
around.  We are already discussing the possibility of adding to the
program for next year to include a No Code Tech class in addition to the
Radio MB class.  If you look at the the requirements once you have
finished the Radio MB amateur option, you have already covered a lot of
the material required for the NCT.  I do not know how far the ARRL
ad-hoc committee has looked in this issue, but I think some of us are
way ahead in the thinking when it comes to Scouts and Amateur Radio.  I
think a session at Dayton, Hamcom and other hamfest to spread the ideas,
and materials around would be a great starting point.

Allan Batteiger - WB5QNG

Gary Wilson wrote:

>--- In ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com, "Frank Krizan"
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>>This is probably the time to let everyone know that the K2BSA
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>Amateur Radio Association (KARA), which is a 501(c) organization
>formed several years ago to protect the K2BSA call sign and promote
>radio scouting is being revitalized by a bunch of us in the DFW
>area.
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>>Your suggestions for Field appointments through the League are
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>good; however, that's another level of organization that the SMs and
>the League may not want to tackle.
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>I already see an interest in increasing youth involvement with some
>sections having ASM's for youth activities, so the time might be
>right in the league.
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>>We may want to use the KARA as a focal point for such organization
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>and develop a close relationship with the ARRL, National BSA, GSUSA
>and others.  Since KARA is a 501(c), this may provide an opportunity
>to gather donations which can be allocated to scout groups throughout
>the US as grants (either equipment or dollars).
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>That's an interesting idea, but it would have to be VERY tightly
>linked with ARRL to avoid "balkanizing" an already tiny subgroup
>(Scouters) within a small hobby (Amateur Radio).  The goal is to
>increase the number of hams thinking about reaching out to Scouts,
>not creating a small sub-group of the already converted.
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>>I think the Ham scouters in the US should do something similar.
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>Maybe we could organize something similar to the AMSAT or Digital
>Conferences that migrate to different geographical parts of the
>nation ... or just have a meeting every year at Dayton ... or a
>meeting at National BSA in Irving, TX ... or at a different National
>BSA High Adventure camp ... or just Dayton ... or at the ARRL HQ.
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>I attend Dayton every year and they do have a youth forum that
>occasionally touches on Scouting.  I supect if we had enough interest
>we could have a seperate one hour forum on Radio Scouting.  I
>wouldn't mind organizing it.  Topics to start could be 1. Running a
>Radio Merit Badge Day; 2. promoting JOTA, 3. building a station at
>your camp.  Any volunteers for presenters?  I can do the first one in
>my sleep.
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>73
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>Gary, K2GW
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