FYI.  Thanks to all of your help, the USPS has now announced there will be 2010
Celebrate Scouting Postage stamp which it will unveil on Thursday November 12. 
It will be a regular 44 cent commemorative postage stamp to be issued in July
2010 in conjunction with the BSA National Jamboree in Virginia.

Details are at http://www.sossi.org/pdffiles/unveilingannouncement.pdf


73

Gary Wilson, K2GW

http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2009/10/31/11174/?nc=1


                 Ray Brown, KB0STN
                 BSRTC, Nih-Ka-Ga-Hah District
                 Ozark Trails Council
                 kb0stn@...

We really do need to get going on firm planning for APRS at jamboree 2010.  The
most important part will be identifying those people that are APRS savvy and
will be there.

> *  Will the APRS [digi]peaters outside of the
> Jamboree be able to handle low power hand held
> APRS from the Jamboree?
> Did anyone do this in 2005?

We will need to install one-or more on-site digis for handheld coverage.  But
that is as simple as a few mobile D700s parked in a few places or some small
portable digis.

> * Thinking ahead... what would make a
> nice APRS demo for the boys at the
> Jamboree?  (send an email home?
> would they care it was via APRS?
> -- radiograms are sent out every day
> mostly via packet)

When we identify all the APRS hams that will be there, we must also find how
many of them can bring along a tracker device or 2-way APRS HT.  There just may
be enough of them to provide some fun tracking of existing people as the move
around.

But sending Email FROM THE HT out in the field or in the subcamps to mee is the
killer-ap...

Maybe prepare a FLAG that is UNIQUE to APRS that indicates THAT FLAG or bearer
is being tracked over at K2BSA?  Or an OVERSHIRT saying "See me on APRS.FI" See
ham radio!

Bob, WB4APR

Yes, and there is a petition to revise 97.113 already at FCC to resolve
the problem.
It has been submitted by WB6NOA and others to actually address the problems.
Personally, in the times we live in now, there should be no reason that
professional
emergency communicators who are also hams should not be able to drill,
train, and plan
for the use of amateur radio in times of emergency.

Methinks that someone in the FCC staff  hath gone overboard when they
made the earlier
ruling, since the earlier ruling seems to contradict 97.1.

73,

Bill, W2BSA

Stephen M. Shearer wrote:
>
>
> I got a chance to actually sit down and read 97.113 and in 97.113c it
> says "A control operator may accept compensation as an incident of a
> teaching position during periods of time when an amateur station is used
> by that teacher as a part of classroom instruction at an educational
> institution." -- thanks Bill for the direction. The "ruckus" is more
> related to ECOM and 97.113a. The ability to teach "the art" is also
> covered in 97.1 -- schools (scout camp) would have a difficult time
> teaching without at some point in time getting on the air...
>
> (on the ECOM side, one could argue the point that 97.1 also wants to
> "... advancing skills in both the communications and technical phases of
> the art." is difficult without having drills and often need to include
> the paid responders too. [yes the local government can ask for an
> exception - what about a local private hospital?] - no answer required,
> just my mumbling.)
>
> steve
>
> Bill Stewart, w2bsa wrote:
> >
> >
> > That would come under the education exemption, in that the paid person
> > who also has a ham radio
> > license is teaching the Radio Merit badge class. There is nothing to
> > preclude a licensee from doing that.
> > The licensee gets no remuneration by virtue of the fact that the
> > licensee is a ham.
> > The licensee gets remuneration by virtue of the fact that the licensee
> > is hired to teach. Most likely
> > the licensee was hired to teach other merit badges as well, for example,
> > computers and/or electronics and/or
> > electricity, if I am remembering my merit badge titles right.
> >
> > Bill, W2BSA
> >
> > Stephen M. Shearer wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > The issue of FCC 97.113 has raised discussion in many email groups and
> > > web forums. BSA summer camps running radio merit badge could have an
> > > issue. "obviously" using ham radio for camp staff communications isn't
> > > OK, but will making a radio contact (using paid camp staff) for radio
> > > merit badge be an issue? Some camps have a volunteer running the merit
> > > badge (lack of a ham in the camp staff). The merit badge
> communications
> > > does "benefit the public" (the scout) and only indirectly the Camp
> (the
> > > camp may get campers because of the merit badge - science camp for
> > > example)...
> > > Something to think/talk about. What do you think?
> > >
> > > also see:
> > > http://www.arrl.org/news/files/ARRL_AppropriateUseGuidelines.pdf
> <http://www.arrl.org/news/files/ARRL_AppropriateUseGuidelines.pdf>
> > <http://www.arrl.org/news/files/ARRL_AppropriateUseGuidelines.pdf
> <http://www.arrl.org/news/files/ARRL_AppropriateUseGuidelines.pdf>>
> > > <http://www.arrl.org/news/files/ARRL_AppropriateUseGuidelines.pdf
> <http://www.arrl.org/news/files/ARRL_AppropriateUseGuidelines.pdf>
> > <http://www.arrl.org/news/files/ARRL_AppropriateUseGuidelines.pdf
> <http://www.arrl.org/news/files/ARRL_AppropriateUseGuidelines.pdf>>>
> > > <http://www.arrl.org/news/files/ARRL_AppropriateUseGuidelines.pdf
> <http://www.arrl.org/news/files/ARRL_AppropriateUseGuidelines.pdf>
> > <http://www.arrl.org/news/files/ARRL_AppropriateUseGuidelines.pdf
> <http://www.arrl.org/news/files/ARRL_AppropriateUseGuidelines.pdf>>
> > > <http://www.arrl.org/news/files/ARRL_AppropriateUseGuidelines.pdf
> <http://www.arrl.org/news/files/ARRL_AppropriateUseGuidelines.pdf>
> > <http://www.arrl.org/news/files/ARRL_AppropriateUseGuidelines.pdf
> <http://www.arrl.org/news/files/ARRL_AppropriateUseGuidelines.pdf>>>>
> > > and see: http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?t=220443
> <http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?t=220443>
> > <http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?t=220443
> <http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?t=220443>>
> > > <http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?t=220443
> <http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?t=220443>
> > <http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?t=220443
> <http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?t=220443>>>
> > > <http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?t=220443
> <http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?t=220443>
> > <http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?t=220443
> <http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?t=220443>>
> > > <http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?t=220443
> <http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?t=220443>
> > <http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?t=220443
> <http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?t=220443>>>>
> > >
> > > steve WB3LGC
> > >
> >
> > .
> >
> >
>
>

I got a chance to actually sit down and read 97.113 and in 97.113c it
says "A control operator may accept compensation as an incident of a
teaching position during periods of time when an amateur station is used
by that teacher as a part of classroom instruction at an educational
institution." -- thanks Bill for the direction.  The "ruckus" is more
related to ECOM and 97.113a.  The ability to teach "the art"  is also
covered in 97.1 -- schools (scout camp) would have a difficult time
teaching without at some point in time getting on the air...

(on the ECOM side, one could argue the point that 97.1 also wants to
"... advancing skills in both the communications and technical phases of
the art." is difficult without having drills and often need to include
the paid responders too.  [yes the local government can ask for an
exception - what about a local private hospital?] -  no answer required,
just my mumbling.)

steve

Bill Stewart, w2bsa wrote:
>
>
> That would come under the education exemption, in that the paid person
> who also has a ham radio
> license is teaching the Radio Merit badge class. There is nothing to
> preclude a licensee from doing that.
> The licensee gets no remuneration by virtue of the fact that the
> licensee is a ham.
> The licensee gets remuneration by virtue of the fact that the licensee
> is hired to teach. Most likely
> the licensee was hired to teach other merit badges as well, for example,
> computers and/or electronics and/or
> electricity, if I am remembering my merit badge titles right.
>
> Bill, W2BSA
>
> Stephen M. Shearer wrote:
> >
> >
> > The issue of FCC 97.113 has raised discussion in many email groups and
> > web forums. BSA summer camps running radio merit badge could have an
> > issue. "obviously" using ham radio for camp staff communications isn't
> > OK, but will making a radio contact (using paid camp staff) for radio
> > merit badge be an issue? Some camps have a volunteer running the merit
> > badge (lack of a ham in the camp staff). The merit badge communications
> > does "benefit the public" (the scout) and only indirectly the Camp (the
> > camp may get campers because of the merit badge - science camp for
> > example)...
> > Something to think/talk about. What do you think?
> >
> > also see:
> > http://www.arrl.org/news/files/ARRL_AppropriateUseGuidelines.pdf
> <http://www.arrl.org/news/files/ARRL_AppropriateUseGuidelines.pdf>
> > <http://www.arrl.org/news/files/ARRL_AppropriateUseGuidelines.pdf
> <http://www.arrl.org/news/files/ARRL_AppropriateUseGuidelines.pdf>>
> > <http://www.arrl.org/news/files/ARRL_AppropriateUseGuidelines.pdf
> <http://www.arrl.org/news/files/ARRL_AppropriateUseGuidelines.pdf>
> > <http://www.arrl.org/news/files/ARRL_AppropriateUseGuidelines.pdf
> <http://www.arrl.org/news/files/ARRL_AppropriateUseGuidelines.pdf>>>
> > and see: http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?t=220443
> <http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?t=220443>
> > <http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?t=220443
> <http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?t=220443>>
> > <http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?t=220443
> <http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?t=220443>
> > <http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?t=220443
> <http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?t=220443>>>
> >
> > steve WB3LGC
> >
>
> .
>
>

The words "keyer" and "klondike" can mean different things to various scouters. 
Are you referring to a Morse Code Oscillator?  Need a little more definition.

Thanks, 72, Frank KR1ZAN


--- In ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com, "dizzy2788" <dragon_slayer1980@...> wrote:
>
> I am looking for away to make some keyers for klondike. I need to make 4 of
them and dont want to spend alot of money. Can someone help me?
>

Buongiorno a tutti gli scouts e guide del mondo intero

Bonjour les scouts du monde entier.
goodmornig alls scouts and girls from world

Also this year our scout group blind 'baden-powell-', near milan/italy
  WAZ 15 -ITU 28- LOCATOR JN4ON is present with
   5 wolf
10 scout
   4 girl
  5  rover
  2 leader

HAPPY JOTI and JOTA 2009

  blindscout@...

SCOUT GROUP BLIND
% CULTURAL CENTER BLIND
PHILTEMA
PO. BOX 99
20092 CINISELLO BALSAMO
                               ITALY

I am looking for away to make some keyers for klondike. I need to make 4 of them
and dont want to spend alot of money. Can someone help me?

NEED STATIONS TO CONTACT US FOR IRLP NET SCHEDULE BEGINNING 1530GMT/0830CDT 
EVERY 30 MINUTES THEREAFTER UNTIL 2130GMT/1530CDT. WE WILL HAVE GROUPS OF 10-15
SCOUTS ROTATING THROUGH OUT THE DAY. PLEASE EMAIL US DIRECT AT
www.scouts@... to schedule.

73!

WRLRD
CAMP HUISACHE
LAREDO, TEXAS USA
AZTEC DISTRICT
SOUTH TEXAS AREA COUNCIL

Venturing Crew 80, W3BSA has CANCELED it's participation in JOTA this
year due to weather.

73,

Bill, W2BSA

byjimeny wrote:
>
>
> There are only 23 events posted in the d/b section this year. Last
> year we had 40. I find it hard to manage all the posted email messages
> of activity but using the d/b and then before we head to JOTA, we do a
> PRINTABLE REPORT.
>
> Add your event to the database called JOTA2009:
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ScoutRadio/database?method=reportRows&tbl=6
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ScoutRadio/database?method=reportRows&tbl=6>
>
> or use this TINY URL:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ygxbw2a <http://tinyurl.com/ygxbw2a>
>
> Simply use the ADD RECORD function to add yours. If you mess up, just
> enter a second version. We'll figure it out.
>
> jim/w4qo
>
>

The Irving Amateur Radio Club in association with the Circle Ten Council
International Committe and the National Scouting Museum in Irving, TX will be
holding a JOTA/JOTI event at the National Scouting Museum from 1400Z-2200Z on 17
October.  Active stations on HF SSB, PSK, IRLP node 4150 and IRLP 9451 which is
Channel 1 of the Dallas Reflector.

Highlight for the event will be a scheduled ARISS Space Station contact at 2153
which will be rebroadcast locally on 442.4 and on the Echolink AMSAT conference.

See you on air, 73, de N5HYP

Laredo Hams Amateur Radio Club will have W5LRD on the air beginning at 0000Z
SAT/1800CST FRI for JOTA. Look for us on IRLP Node 5380, voice on the standard
HF scout freqencies, as well as PSK31. Email direct at scouts@... to
set up a net sked.

There are only 23 events posted in the d/b section this year.  Last year we had
40.  I find it hard to manage all the posted email messages of activity but
using the d/b and then before we head to JOTA, we do a PRINTABLE REPORT.

Add your event to the database called JOTA2009:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ScoutRadio/database?method=reportRows&tbl=6

or use this TINY URL:

http://tinyurl.com/ygxbw2a

Simply use the ADD RECORD function to add yours.  If you mess up, just enter a
second version.  We'll figure it out.

jim/w4qo

Who cares???

There's a contest or QSO party almost every weekend!

Jon
W2MC

--- In ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com, Mike Lukas <iamadivebum@...> wrote:
>
>
> why is it that Hams insist on clugging up the air waves the one weekend of the
year, the same weekend every year with a QSO PARTY. Thats why the ARRL and
everyone else in the ******* world does not schedule QSO parties or contests. 
That way the kids can hear each other thats who they want to talk to...Maybe
it's just me.. 73's  KE7YTM.
>
> To: ScoutRadio@yahoogroups.com
> From: byrdhaus@...
> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:30:20 -0500
> Subject: [ScoutRadio] JOTA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   Just a heads up for JOTA. This weekend is also
>   the 1st Iowa QSO party. I am sending a email to the sponsors to tell them
and
>   ask that they post the scouting freqs on their website. Don't know if it
will
>   help , but it might.
>   73's
>   KB0GVI
>
>
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft.
> http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/
>

Greetings,

If anyone is interested, I can set up a 2M rig in Avalon, GA  I would need to
know by 19:00 Friday, so that I can get the equipment set up.

KD4JFD

My comment about contesters comes from personal experience. We have a
number of contesters
in our club. The club also happens to be one of the sponsors of our
Venturing Crew. We have many
in this group who will help when asked. These folks are also the same
people who run our VE team, have in the past been
Section Emergency Coordinator and have run other activities. But,
unfortunately we have many more who find many excuses
not to help. These also happen to be the same people who moan about the
"old age" of ham radio. We want them
to help. But, getting them to help is almost impossible. It kinda gives
a bit of a bad taste in our mouths.

73,

Bill, W2BSA**

Jim Stafford wrote:
>
>
> Well... here is an angle you may not realize - kids like contests!!!!
> I bring'em over to the shack all the time and they really get into
> it.   Our Field Day Merit Badge class moves them right over to the
> station to work clubs all over the place very quickly.  They walk away
> comparing all the states and provinces they have exchanged with.
>
> As far as the IOWA contest is concerned, 3/4 of the activity is on CW
> so you want them to cancel their CW activity so kids can talk on SSB?
> And it's not even all weekend, just a small segment of the weekend.
>
> Have the scouts work any contest station they find.  OK, it's not
> talking to another Scout which they can do in all other ways such as
> their iPHONE.  Contesting on radio is not found anywhere else so don't
> disparage it, join it!  And whatever you do, don't disparage it in
> front of the scouts - it's a valid ham radio activity.
>
> When life gives you lemmons, make lemonade!
>
> W4QO Jim Stafford www.w4qo.com QRP - When you care enough to send the
> very least!
>
>

Venturing Crew 80, W3BSA will be operating JOTA as part of the Colonial
District Fall Camporee.
We will be located at Fort Washington National Historical Park, MD. We
will be operating on HF and VHF
serving some 400 scouts and Webelos. Hope to see you on the air.

73,

Bill, W2BSA

Shamelessly stolen from a local (to me) list...
Nolanville is about 50 miles SW of Waco, TX.


                 _Ray_    KBØSTN  Joplin, MO
                 BSRTC, Merit Badge Dean,
                 Nih-Ka-Ga-Hah District,
                 Ozark Trails Council, BSA


----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Staples" <lstaples@...>


> Hi Larry
>
> Oct 16, WA5DTY is setting up a station at Nolanvillie Elementary
> School in Texas.
>
> Plans are to be operating on 7.285 mhz. from 7:30am to 2:30pm
>
> So if you can, lets load them up with lots of contacts; as you say
> Larry, get them while they are young.
>
> Joel, KC0ELZ
> <kc0elz@...>

This message is from AC0EG who organized the JOTA event for Quivira Council in
south central Kansas.  I edited some.

James
  n5gui


A group of Hams will be traveling to Scout Camp Kanza this weekend to operate
four stations, selected from HF, VHF, UHF, and Echolink, as a part of the Scouts
Webelos Woods.  We will be seeing over 300 Webelos...  Operating times are 17
Oct from 9:00 AM CDT (1200 UTC) to 6:00 PM (2300 UTC).  To find out what
repeaters and HF frequencies we are using, go to
http://jota.whitebuffalodistrict.info .  We will be updating this throughout the
day as we move around the bands.  If you hear that the band is busy, try again
in 30 minutes.

We will be operating as KC0AHN.

If you are with another scout unit, look us up and try to contact us.  We would
love to talk with you.

Take care
  Harvey Jones
harvey.jones@...
ac0eg

Fellow scouts from all over the world:

We from Scouting Antiano (Netherlands Antilles) hereby invite all of you to
point your antennas
to our island Curaçao Netherlands Antilles. Curaçao is located in the
southwestern Caribbean,
at latitude (station) : 12° 9' 36.00" north and longitude 68° 51' 36.00" west.
The island is just 70 km (44 miles) north of South America.

We are pleased to communicate with you coming weekend during the 52nd Jamboree
On The Air.

Call Sign : PJ2SA

Dates  : October 16 till 18, 2009

Frequency : 40, 20 – 10 m

IRLP  : Repeater PJ2A-R   Node number: 7992

Echolink : PJ2BR-R     Node number: 127954

Visit: http://scoutroly.spaces.live.com

There will be Dutch Antilles Scouts in the 13th Jamboree on the Internet.

We look forward in communicating with you!!!!!

73

Rolando Manuel - PJ2RM, PJ2SA
National Jota Coordinator
Curasol Kavel G-11
Curaçao, the Netherlands Antilles
Email: scoutroly1965@...

> Hey folks. Unfortunately, there are many
> people in our hobby who whine about there
> not being enough young people in the hobby.
...

As a tangential point, don't forget, that we REACHOUT to kids
and scouts, but we are also reeling in any parents too.  Do not
overlook including material that might appeal to the parents.
Ham radio is generally attractive to adults and probably most
new hams come from the adult crowd.

This does not in any way mean we should not reach out to the
kids as best we can, but also be prepared to invite in the
parents too.

Bob, WB4APR