Second attempt.  M orignal sending did not get to the group.  I hve
deleted the mesage boady with the url which the Yhoogroups spm filter
probably caught the second time.

I assume you have all seen this SPAM and a couple of others.  On 23 Jan
I forwarded the last spam to the group owner with a suggestion that he
approve new members as the owners of several other groups do.  I asked
for a reply si I would know to know that he still active; I have
received no reply.

sexy jessica passion 3029 wrote:  snip
  >

I wrote to Yahoogroups asking if they could check son the owner and got
this reply:

  >Thank you for writing to Yahoo! Groups.
  >
  >We understand the situation you are in. Please keep in mind that Group
  >owners have total control over their Group. Yahoo! does not operate or
  >maintain Groups.  We only give Group owners the tools to create and run
  >their own communities.
  >
  >We encourage you to contact the Group owner.  To contact the Group
  >owner, you may send a message to:
  >
  >   ScottishWarPrisoners-owner@yahoogroups.com
  >

I had explianed that I had tried to contact the owner.

  >
  >We are sorry to inform you that due to our Privacy Policy, we cannot
  >appoint a new owner/moderator to the group.
  >
  >*If the owner cannot be contacted, an option available for you is to
  >*create your own group and send out invitations to those people who you
  >*would like to join your new group.
  >
  >We realize that this may pose an inconvenience, and for this we
  >sincerely apologize. We appreciate your understanding with this matter.
  >
  >Thank you again for contacting Yahoo! Customer Care.
  >
  >Regards,
  >
  >Lenny
  >

I suspect that the  owner has lost interest in the group or has even
died.  If someone is interested in continuing this group or list I
suggest starting new list but on on rootsweb, not Yahoogroups. Rootsweb
monitors the lists and if an admin is reported absent they check and if
they caonnot contact the admin they will find a new admin and transfer.

I will not recommend Yahoogroups to anyone.

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matter.

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----- Original Message -----
From: bob gillis
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 10:45 AM
To: ScottishWarPrisoners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ScottishWarPrisoners] Whre is the owner

Second attempt. M orignal sending did not get to the group. I hve
deleted the mesage boady with the url which the Yhoogroups spm filter
probably caught the second time.

I assume you have all seen this SPAM and a couple of others. On 23 Jan
I forwarded the last spam to the group owner with a suggestion that he
approve new members as the owners of several other groups do. I asked
for a reply si I would know to know that he still active; I have
received no reply.

sexy jessica passion 3029 wrote: snip
>

I wrote to Yahoogroups asking if they could check son the owner and got
this reply:

>Thank you for writing to Yahoo! Groups.
>
>We understand the situation you are in. Please keep in mind that Group
>owners have total control over their Group. Yahoo! does not operate or
>maintain Groups. We only give Group owners the tools to create and run
>their own communities.
>
>We encourage you to contact the Group owner. To contact the Group
>owner, you may send a message to:
>
> ScottishWarPrisoners-owner@yahoogroups.com
>

I had explianed that I had tried to contact the owner.

>
>We are sorry to inform you that due to our Privacy Policy, we cannot
>appoint a new owner/moderator to the group.
>
>*If the owner cannot be contacted, an option available for you is to
>*create your own group and send out invitations to those people who you
>*would like to join your new group.
>
>We realize that this may pose an inconvenience, and for this we
>sincerely apologize. We appreciate your understanding with this matter.
>
>Thank you again for contacting Yahoo! Customer Care.
>
>Regards,
>
>Lenny
>

I suspect that the owner has lost interest in the group or has even
died. If someone is interested in continuing this group or list I
suggest starting new list but on on rootsweb, not Yahoogroups. Rootsweb
monitors the lists and if an admin is reported absent they check and if
they caonnot contact the admin they will find a new admin and transfer.

I will not recommend Yahoogroups to anyone.

bob gillis





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Please, let's be a little tolerant. Have you been the
owner of a yahoo group? I have, and it is not easy
because yahoo doesn't provide many instructions. The
owner is doing this as a volunteer and is probably not
an IT professional. So we can't expect everything to
run perfectly. The owner may even be seriously ill or
have some personal crisis that prevents attending to
the group.

Due to this wonderful invention, the Internet, we
descendents of Scottish war prisoners are in touch
with each other in a way that would have been
impossible 20 years ago. I was fascinated by the
discussion of criminal emigrants who may have claimed
to be war prisoners. So I am willing to put up with a
few glitches and spam. I don't think the amount of
spam is that bad, in fact, I was amused by the offer
to do criminal background checks. The amount of spam
is not enough to make me not want to open messages.

So let's be patient and see if the owner reappears.
The group actually could go on without a owner for
awhile. If there are serious problems, we could follow
yahoo's suggestion and form another Scottish War
Prisoners group.

And owner, wherever you are, thank you for setting up
this very helpful and interesting group.

Eleanor Hall

--- MARY MASON <mmason50@...> wrote:

> Thank you Bob. I, too am tired of receiving spam
> stuff on this site. I truly hope something can be
> done about this problem. I stopped opening a lot of
> the messages unless I recognized a name.  I
> appreciate your diligence in this matter.
>
> Mary (Cone descendent)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: bob gillis
> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 10:45 AM
> To: ScottishWarPrisoners@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [ScottishWarPrisoners] Whre is the
> owner
>
> Second attempt. M orignal sending did not get to the
> group. I hve
> deleted the mesage boady with the url which the
> Yhoogroups spm filter
> probably caught the second time.
>
> I assume you have all seen this SPAM and a couple of
> others. On 23 Jan
> I forwarded the last spam to the group owner with a
> suggestion that he
> approve new members as the owners of several other
> groups do. I asked
> for a reply si I would know to know that he still
> active; I have
> received no reply.
>
> sexy jessica passion 3029 wrote: snip
> >
>
> I wrote to Yahoogroups asking if they could check
> son the owner and got
> this reply:
>
> >Thank you for writing to Yahoo! Groups.
> >
> >We understand the situation you are in. Please keep
> in mind that Group
> >owners have total control over their Group. Yahoo!
> does not operate or
> >maintain Groups. We only give Group owners the
> tools to create and run
> >their own communities.
> >
> >We encourage you to contact the Group owner. To
> contact the Group
> >owner, you may send a message to:
> >
> > ScottishWarPrisoners-owner@yahoogroups.com
> >
>
> I had explianed that I had tried to contact the
> owner.
>
> >
> >We are sorry to inform you that due to our Privacy
> Policy, we cannot
> >appoint a new owner/moderator to the group.
> >
> >*If the owner cannot be contacted, an option
> available for you is to
> >*create your own group and send out invitations to
> those people who you
> >*would like to join your new group.
> >
> >We realize that this may pose an inconvenience, and
> for this we
> >sincerely apologize. We appreciate your
> understanding with this matter.
> >
> >Thank you again for contacting Yahoo! Customer
> Care.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Lenny
> >
>
> I suspect that the owner has lost interest in the
> group or has even
> died. If someone is interested in continuing this
> group or list I
> suggest starting new list but on on rootsweb, not
> Yahoogroups. Rootsweb
> monitors the lists and if an admin is reported
> absent they check and if
> they caonnot contact the admin they will find a new
> admin and transfer.
>
> I will not recommend Yahoogroups to anyone.
>
> bob gillis
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>

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Eleanor Hall wrote:

>Please, let's be a little tolerant. Have you been the
>owner of a yahoo group? I have, and it is not easy
>because yahoo doesn't provide many instructions. The
>owner is doing this as a volunteer and is probably not
>an IT professional. So we can't expect everything to
>run perfectly. The owner may even be seriously ill or
>have some personal crisis that prevents attending to
>the group.
>

My ire is not so much at the group owner as at Yahoogroups.

A rootsweb list admin can appoint someone else to take over temporarily
or permanently.

A group owner does not have to be an IT professional.  There are
controls that other group owners use to prevent the potential spammers
spammers from subscribing to a group.

>
>Due to this wonderful invention, the Internet, we
>descendents of Scottish war prisoners are in touch
>with each other in a way that would have been
>impossible 20 years ago. I was fascinated by the
>discussion of criminal emigrants who may have claimed
>to be war prisoners. So I am willing to put up with a
>few glitches and spam. I don't think the amount of
>spam is that bad, in fact, I was amused by the offer
>to do criminal background checks. The amount of spam
>is not enough to make me not want to open messages.
>
>So let's be patient and see if the owner reappears.
>The group actually could go on without a owner for
>awhile. If there are serious problems, we could follow
>yahoo's suggestion and form another Scottish War
>Prisoners group.
>
>And owner, wherever you are, thank you for setting up
>this very helpful and interesting group.
>
>Eleanor Hall
>
>--- MARY MASON <mmason50@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>>Thank you Bob. I, too am tired of receiving spam
>>stuff on this site. I truly hope something can be
>>done about this problem. I stopped opening a lot of
>>the messages unless I recognized a name.  I
>>appreciate your diligence in this matter.
>>
>>Mary (Cone descendent)
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: bob gillis
>>Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 10:45 AM
>>To: ScottishWarPrisoners@yahoogroups.com
>>Subject: Re: [ScottishWarPrisoners] Whre is the
>>owner
>>
>>Second attempt. M orignal sending did not get to the
>>group. I hve
>>deleted the mesage boady with the url which the
>>Yhoogroups spm filter
>>probably caught the second time.
>>
>>I assume you have all seen this SPAM and a couple of
>>others. On 23 Jan
>>I forwarded the last spam to the group owner with a
>>suggestion that he
>>approve new members as the owners of several other
>>groups do. I asked
>>for a reply si I would know to know that he still
>>active; I have
>>received no reply.
>>
>>sexy jessica passion 3029 wrote: snip
>>
>>
>>I wrote to Yahoogroups asking if they could check
>>son the owner and got
>>this reply:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Thank you for writing to Yahoo! Groups.
>>>
>>>We understand the situation you are in. Please keep
>>>
>>>
>>in mind that Group
>>
>>
>>>owners have total control over their Group. Yahoo!
>>>
>>>
>>does not operate or
>>
>>
>>>maintain Groups. We only give Group owners the
>>>
>>>
>>tools to create and run
>>
>>
>>>their own communities.
>>>
>>>We encourage you to contact the Group owner. To
>>>
>>>
>>contact the Group
>>
>>
>>>owner, you may send a message to:
>>>
>>>ScottishWarPrisoners-owner@yahoogroups.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>I had explianed that I had tried to contact the
>>owner.
>>
>>
>>
>>>We are sorry to inform you that due to our Privacy
>>>
>>>
>>Policy, we cannot
>>
>>
>>>appoint a new owner/moderator to the group.
>>>
>>>*If the owner cannot be contacted, an option
>>>
>>>
>>available for you is to
>>
>>
>>>*create your own group and send out invitations to
>>>
>>>
>>those people who you
>>
>>
>>>*would like to join your new group.
>>>
>>>We realize that this may pose an inconvenience, and
>>>
>>>
>>for this we
>>
>>
>>>sincerely apologize. We appreciate your
>>>
>>>
>>understanding with this matter.
>>
>>
>>>Thank you again for contacting Yahoo! Customer
>>>
>>>
>>Care.
>>
>>
>>>Regards,
>>>
>>>Lenny
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>I suspect that the owner has lost interest in the
>>group or has even
>>died. If someone is interested in continuing this
>>group or list I
>>suggest starting new list but on on rootsweb, not
>>Yahoogroups. Rootsweb
>>monitors the lists and if an admin is reported
>>absent they check and if
>>they caonnot contact the admin they will find a new
>>admin and transfer.
>>
>>I will not recommend Yahoogroups to anyone.
>>
>>bob gillis
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>[Non-text portions of this message have been
>>removed]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

I too am an owner of a Yahoo! group (different subject matter than
here).  The group came about when a previous "open" group became spam-
ridden and the owner specifically chose not to do anything about it,
though he could have.  It included such prolific spamming luminaries
as our "josalyne-overfelt…" and "chani-kopnicky…," among others.  So
I set up an alternative group, this time "moderated," and I have one
trusted co-moderator to share the administrative and housekeeping
chores.  I know that I have full control and responsibility for the
group, and feel that I am given adequate tools by Yahoo! to do so.  A
moderated group is probably easier to run than an open one, though an
owner is expected to be attentive.

If in time it is felt that an alternative to this group should be
established I would recommend that it also be moderated.  Once
established, I would leave a message here with the new group's URL,
and inviting this membership to check it out and request to join if
they choose.  The simple vetting process in requesting to join is
effective for culling out the dis-interested, lurkers, and spammers.
In my case, virtually all the serious people came over in time, and
none of the spammers.  I had one spammer try to gain entry by overt
deception and was detected, booted and banned within minutes.

Dave Fisher

--- In ScottishWarPrisoners@yahoogroups.com, bob gillis
<robertgillis@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Eleanor Hall wrote:
>
> >Please, let's be a little tolerant. Have you been the
> >owner of a yahoo group? I have, and it is not easy
> >because yahoo doesn't provide many instructions. The
> >owner is doing this as a volunteer and is probably not
> >an IT professional. So we can't expect everything to
> >run perfectly. The owner may even be seriously ill or
> >have some personal crisis that prevents attending to
> >the group.
> >
>
> My ire is not so much at the group owner as at Yahoogroups.
>
> A rootsweb list admin can appoint someone else to take over
temporarily
> or permanently.
>
> A group owner does not have to be an IT professional.  There are
> controls that other group owners use to prevent the potential
spammers
> spammers from subscribing to a group.
>
> >
> >Due to this wonderful invention, the Internet, we
> >descendents of Scottish war prisoners are in touch
> >with each other in a way that would have been
> >impossible 20 years ago. I was fascinated by the
> >discussion of criminal emigrants who may have claimed
> >to be war prisoners. So I am willing to put up with a
> >few glitches and spam. I don't think the amount of
> >spam is that bad, in fact, I was amused by the offer
> >to do criminal background checks. The amount of spam
> >is not enough to make me not want to open messages.
> >
> >So let's be patient and see if the owner reappears.
> >The group actually could go on without a owner for
> >awhile. If there are serious problems, we could follow
> >yahoo's suggestion and form another Scottish War
> >Prisoners group.
> >
> >And owner, wherever you are, thank you for setting up
> >this very helpful and interesting group.
> >
> >Eleanor Hall
> >
> >--- MARY MASON <mmason50@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>Thank you Bob. I, too am tired of receiving spam
> >>stuff on this site. I truly hope something can be
> >>done about this problem. I stopped opening a lot of
> >>the messages unless I recognized a name.  I
> >>appreciate your diligence in this matter.
> >>
> >>Mary (Cone descendent)
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: bob gillis
> >>Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 10:45 AM
> >>To: ScottishWarPrisoners@yahoogroups.com
> >>Subject: Re: [ScottishWarPrisoners] Whre is the
> >>owner
> >>
> >>Second attempt. M orignal sending did not get to the
> >>group. I hve
> >>deleted the mesage boady with the url which the
> >>Yhoogroups spm filter
> >>probably caught the second time.
> >>
> >>I assume you have all seen this SPAM and a couple of
> >>others. On 23 Jan
> >>I forwarded the last spam to the group owner with a
> >>suggestion that he
> >>approve new members as the owners of several other
> >>groups do. I asked
> >>for a reply si I would know to know that he still
> >>active; I have
> >>received no reply.
> >>
> >>sexy jessica passion 3029 wrote: snip
> >>
> >>
> >>I wrote to Yahoogroups asking if they could check
> >>son the owner and got
> >>this reply:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Thank you for writing to Yahoo! Groups.
> >>>
> >>>We understand the situation you are in. Please keep
> >>>
> >>>
> >>in mind that Group
> >>
> >>
> >>>owners have total control over their Group. Yahoo!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>does not operate or
> >>
> >>
> >>>maintain Groups. We only give Group owners the
> >>>
> >>>
> >>tools to create and run
> >>
> >>
> >>>their own communities.
> >>>
> >>>We encourage you to contact the Group owner. To
> >>>
> >>>
> >>contact the Group
> >>
> >>
> >>>owner, you may send a message to:
> >>>
> >>>ScottishWarPrisoners-owner@yahoogroups.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>I had explianed that I had tried to contact the
> >>owner.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>We are sorry to inform you that due to our Privacy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Policy, we cannot
> >>
> >>
> >>>appoint a new owner/moderator to the group.
> >>>
> >>>*If the owner cannot be contacted, an option
> >>>
> >>>
> >>available for you is to
> >>
> >>
> >>>*create your own group and send out invitations to
> >>>
> >>>
> >>those people who you
> >>
> >>
> >>>*would like to join your new group.
> >>>
> >>>We realize that this may pose an inconvenience, and
> >>>
> >>>
> >>for this we
> >>
> >>
> >>>sincerely apologize. We appreciate your
> >>>
> >>>
> >>understanding with this matter.
> >>
> >>
> >>>Thank you again for contacting Yahoo! Customer
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Care.
> >>
> >>
> >>>Regards,
> >>>
> >>>Lenny
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>I suspect that the owner has lost interest in the
> >>group or has even
> >>died. If someone is interested in continuing this
> >>group or list I
> >>suggest starting new list but on on rootsweb, not
> >>Yahoogroups. Rootsweb
> >>monitors the lists and if an admin is reported
> >>absent they check and if
> >>they caonnot contact the admin they will find a new
> >>admin and transfer.
> >>
> >>I will not recommend Yahoogroups to anyone.
> >>
> >>bob gillis
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>[Non-text portions of this message have been
> >>removed]
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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   _____

From: ScottishWarPrisoners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:ScottishWarPrisoners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rpgillis
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 10:03 AM
To: ScottishWarPrisoners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ScottishWarPrisoners] Group owner



As the group owner is AWOL, I am leaving the group.





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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