Unfortunately, no McHoe, or anything close appears in the book.  Many
entries concerning the ship JOHN AND SARAH though.

The only Abernathy (Abernethy) noted is:

"ABERNETHY JANET
Daughter of William Abernethy
deceased, in Old Manse of Foveran. Petty thief. Banished
at Aberdeen. Transported on
BETSY, master James Ramsay.
Landed Port of James River
Upper District 29 April 1772"

Thus is the typical entry in the book.  The James River is in
Virginia, and the "Upper District" could be no further inland than
the Fall Line at Richmond.

Directory of Scots Banished to the American Plantations 1650-1775
by David Dobson
Geneological Publishing Co., Baltimore, 1983
ISBN 0-8063-1035-9, LCCN 83-81052

Sorry no more information.  My guy isn't in it either.

Dave

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>
> Dave,
>   Wow, where'd you find that book?  Could you look for Robert
Abernathy while you are at it?  If anyone could every circulate such
a list, it would be wonderful.  I know that Robert Abernathy was
inthe Battle of Dunbar and the Battle of Worcester, and that he came
over in or around 1652.  He was an indentured servant for several
years and then began a long history of farming in Brunswick County,
Virginia.  If you see an Abernathy (or Abernethy) on the list, please
let me know!-Ericka Morgan
>
> Dave Fisher <stonehorse148@y...> wrote:
>   Jan,
>
> There is no known ship list for the UNITY, at least on this side of
> the pond.  The Saugus Iron works may have some information, or
> leads.  I am not at home in VA now, but I have a book listing
> Scottish prisoners, and includes prisoners transported in JOHN &
> SARAH.  I'll check it out when I get back.
>
> Dave (of George Gray)
>
> --- In ScottishWarPrisoners@yahoogroups.com, "Larry Highman"
> <medievaltents@h...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Dave,
> >
> > Thank you for joining the list.  My ancestor was Daniel Cone.  We
> don't know
> > if his name was changed, he may have been the Daniel McHoe on the
> John and
> > Sara (I believe, the ship of prisoners from the Battle of
> Worcester).  Our
> > family history is that he was taken in the Battle of Dunbar.  We
> found a
> > reference that he was born in Edinburgh, but I think that was
> assumed from
> > his death certificate (Haddam CT).  I appreciate what you have
> added about
> > the history of the men fighting at Dunbar.  I had not heard that
> Gen Leslie
> > raised the troops from the lowlands.  Do you have any more gems?
> Is there a
> > passenger manifest for the Unity?
> >
> >
> >
> > Jan (Cone) Highman
> >
> >
> >
> > >>>
> > >I too am a direct relative of George Gray on my mother's side
> > >(grandmother Myrtle Gray (decd.) of Georgetown, MA).  I realize
> that
> > >the early affairs of G.G. are a bit hazy (gray!?).  While poking
> > >about for information, I came up on the comprehensive Cederman
> > >geneology ( http://www.cederman.com/genealogy/ ) with notations
of
> a
> > >(the?) Gray family.  Within it I note that a Lord Patrick Gray
was
> > >born in the Dundee/Perthshire area in 1538.  His son, William is
> also
> > >noted as being in the area as Sheriff of Forfar and then Burgess
of
> > >Dundee 1589-1590.  No dates of birth or death in given.
William's
> > >son was Andrew, who also died in the area (at Pitscandly, near
> > >Forfar), no date given.  Andrew had one son, GEORGE.  No other
> > >information is noted for George, and there are no other George
> Grays
> > >listed in any near period.  If you allow a standard of 25 years
> > >between generations beginning with Lord Patrick G., George G.
would
> > >have been born in the first quarter of the 1600s, and in his mid-
> 30s
> > >at the time of the Battle of Dunbar.  That George left no
progeny,
> > >and is not listed as dying in Scotland.  Maybe sent off in the
> > >UNITY?  Who knows?
> > >
> > >The Grays have been claimed as a sept of the Southerland clan
(far
> > >northeast Scotland), but the history of the Battle of Dunbar is
> that
> > >the highland clans did not participate, and that General Lesley
> > >raised his Covenenter Army in the lowlands - Dundee and
Perthshire
> > >being quite close to the north across the River Tay.
> > >
> > >So, it is not unreasonable to speculate that Cederman's George G.
> > >could have been the one in the right place at the right time.
> Maybe
> > >there is a paper-trail somewhere in the Forfar/Pitscandly area.
> > >
> > >Dave Fisher
> > >
> >
>
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This message is for Mr. Dave Fisher.

Dear Mr. Dave Fisher,


           On November 18, 2005 you posted a message stating that information
about many Scots war prisoners who were sent to North America on the ship John
and Sarah can be found in the book Directory of Scots Banished to the
American Plantations 1650-1775 by David Dobson.
          I do not own this book.  If you own it, could you please look up in
your copy and send me any information this book contains about Walter Jackson?
  He fought at the battle of Worcester on September 3, 1651 for Charles
Stewart and was taken prisoner.  Walter Jackson was sent on the ship John and
Sarah
to Boston, Massachusetts Bay Colony.  He worked as an indentured servant for
Mr. Nicholas Lissen at his sawmill in Exeter, New Hampshire and for Mr.
Valentine Hill at his sawmill in Oyster River (now Durham), New Hampshire. 
Walter
Jackson died in Oyster River around 1683.
         My 84-year-old mother is descended from Walter Jackson and we are
trying to find out where in Scotland he was born.
        Could you please xerox any information the book contains about Walter
Jackson and mail it to me?  My address is:

                         Ms. Susan M. Grady
                         6330 Hillcrest Place
                         Alexandria, Virginia 22312

         Thank you.  I would be very glad to pay you for the cost of xeroxing
and mailing me this information if it is necessary.

Sincerely,


Susan M. Grady


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Susan,

An entry for Walter Jackson reads:

"JACKSON WALTER
Royalist soldier captured at
Worcester. Thansported on the
JOHN AND SARAH, master John
Greene, from Gravesend to
Boston 13 May 1652"

Information from The New England Historical and Geneological Register.

Best Regards,
Dave Fisher
City of Williamsburg, VA
--- In ScottishWarPrisoners@yahoogroups.com, SusanG1400@a... wrote:
>
> This message is for Mr. Dave Fisher.
>
> Dear Mr. Dave Fisher,
>
>
>           On November 18, 2005 you posted a message stating that
information
> about many Scots war prisoners who were sent to North America on
the ship John
> and Sarah can be found in the book Directory of Scots Banished to
the
> American Plantations 1650-1775 by David Dobson.
>          I do not own this book.  If you own it, could you please
look up in
> your copy and send me any information this book contains about
Walter Jackson?
>  He fought at the battle of Worcester on September 3, 1651 for
Charles
> Stewart and was taken prisoner.  Walter Jackson was sent on the
ship John and Sarah
> to Boston, Massachusetts Bay Colony.  He worked as an indentured
servant for
> Mr. Nicholas Lissen at his sawmill in Exeter, New Hampshire and for
Mr.
> Valentine Hill at his sawmill in Oyster River (now Durham), New
Hampshire.  Walter
> Jackson died in Oyster River around 1683.
>         My 84-year-old mother is descended from Walter Jackson and
we are
> trying to find out where in Scotland he was born.
>        Could you please xerox any information the book contains
about Walter
> Jackson and mail it to me?  My address is:
>
>                         Ms. Susan M. Grady
>                         6330 Hillcrest Place
>                         Alexandria, Virginia 22312
>
>         Thank you.  I would be very glad to pay you for the cost of
xeroxing
> and mailing me this information if it is necessary.
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
> Susan M. Grady
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Walter Jackson is listed in the transcript of the lettter from Robert
Rich and William Geene to Thomas Kenble instructing the latter to
dispose of the men and to buy goods for trade in the Barbadoes. Letter
recorded by the Suffolk County Registrar of Deeds on 13 May 1652.  There
are no residences for any of the ~150 men.

Tthis letter and list of men was in the NEHGR Vol 1, page 377, Oct 1847
and has been reproduced in other web sites and books.

bob gillis

In addition to Water there were James and Rchard and Patricke Jacson.

SusanG1400@... wrote:

>This message is for Mr. Dave Fisher.
>
>Dear Mr. Dave Fisher,
>
>
>          On November 18, 2005 you posted a message stating that information
>about many Scots war prisoners who were sent to North America on the ship John
>and Sarah can be found in the book Directory of Scots Banished to the
>American Plantations 1650-1775 by David Dobson.
>         I do not own this book.  If you own it, could you please look up in
>your copy and send me any information this book contains about Walter Jackson?
> He fought at the battle of Worcester on September 3, 1651 for Charles
>Stewart and was taken prisoner.  Walter Jackson was sent on the ship John and
Sarah
>to Boston, Massachusetts Bay Colony.  He worked as an indentured servant for
>Mr. Nicholas Lissen at his sawmill in Exeter, New Hampshire and for Mr.
>Valentine Hill at his sawmill in Oyster River (now Durham), New Hampshire. 
Walter
>Jackson died in Oyster River around 1683.
>        My 84-year-old mother is descended from Walter Jackson and we are
>trying to find out where in Scotland he was born.
>       Could you please xerox any information the book contains about Walter
>Jackson and mail it to me?  My address is:
>
>                        Ms. Susan M. Grady
>                        6330 Hillcrest Place
>                        Alexandria, Virginia 22312
>
>        Thank you.  I would be very glad to pay you for the cost of xeroxing
>and mailing me this information if it is necessary.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>
>Susan M. Grady
>
>
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The entries in the Dobson book, "Directory of Scots Banished to the
American Plantations 1650-1775" are quite short, as the two examplars
quoted so far indicate.  In his introduction, Dobson states that the
book can not be considered comprehensive, and in particular, the
Cromwellian deportation records have not survived.  It is apparent that
the entries do not attempt to be full biographies, though in some
cases, origins and occupations are noted.  But, every little bit could
be a help, and all entries note their source(s).  Those sources could
be a useful start-point for further elaboration.

Dave Fisher

Bob,

    My grandfather Alexander Gordon was a prisoner from the same war, and married
Lissan's daughter. Small world.
   Merle

bob gillis <robertgillis@...> wrote:
   Walter Jackson is listed in the transcript of the lettter from Robert
Rich and William Geene to Thomas Kenble instructing the latter to
dispose of the men and to buy goods for trade in the Barbadoes. Letter
recorded by the Suffolk County Registrar of Deeds on 13 May 1652.  There
are no residences for any of the ~150 men.

Tthis letter and list of men was in the NEHGR Vol 1, page 377, Oct 1847
and has been reproduced in other web sites and books.

bob gillis

In addition to Water there were James and Rchard and Patricke Jacson.

SusanG1400@... wrote:

>This message is for Mr. Dave Fisher.
>
>Dear Mr. Dave Fisher,
>
>
>          On November 18, 2005 you posted a message stating that information
>about many Scots war prisoners who were sent to North America on the ship John
>and Sarah can be found in the book Directory of Scots Banished to the
>American Plantations 1650-1775 by David Dobson.
>         I do not own this book.  If you own it, could you please look up in
>your copy and send me any information this book contains about Walter Jackson?
> He fought at the battle of Worcester on September 3, 1651 for Charles
>Stewart and was taken prisoner.  Walter Jackson was sent on the ship John and
Sarah
>to Boston, Massachusetts Bay Colony.  He worked as an indentured servant for
>Mr. Nicholas Lissen at his sawmill in Exeter, New Hampshire and for Mr.
>Valentine Hill at his sawmill in Oyster River (now Durham), New Hampshire. 
Walter
>Jackson died in Oyster River around 1683.
>        My 84-year-old mother is descended from Walter Jackson and we are
>trying to find out where in Scotland he was born.
>       Could you please xerox any information the book contains about Walter
>Jackson and mail it to me?  My address is:
>
>                        Ms. Susan M. Grady
>                        6330 Hillcrest Place
>                        Alexandria, Virginia 22312
>
>        Thank you.  I would be very glad to pay you for the cost of xeroxing
>and mailing me this information if it is necessary.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>
>Susan M. Grady
>
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Hello,
     I may have posed this question several years ago, but thought it's worth
another try in case there are new members with new information.
     Does anyone have info about prisoners after the 1715 rebellion who were sent
to Marshalsea Prison and then sent to Virginia? Some were indentured and others
were not.  I am particularly interested about those who shipped out on the
Elizabeth and Ann and landed in Yorktown in January of 1716. Also, does anyone
know where the Marshalsea Prison records are kept or if any have survived?
Thanks!



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Leila,

First, a quick Google search indicated that Marshalsea Prison was in
London, Borough High Street, Southwark SE1.

In the previously noted directory of Scots banished to America, there
are many persons noted as captured at Preston in the Rebellion of
1715.  For the most part, all the directory entries read as follows:

"NAME
Jacobite captured at Preston.
Transported to Virginia or Jamaica on the ELIZABETH
AND ANNE, master Edward Trafford, from Liverpool
29 June 1716.  Landed in Virginia."

A few entries (same voyage) include "York" Virginia.  Some entries
indicate that the person was indentured, while a couple have other
amplifying information.

The list of men on the ELIZABETH AND ANNE is as follows:
Abercromby, John; Abbot, Frederick; Anderson, Robert; Arnott, David;
Ayston, James; Beatty, Francis; Blackwood, James; Brown,  John;
Bruce, Alexander; Bruce, Robert; Burne, John; Cane, Hugh; Carr,
Alexander; Carus, Christopher; Chisholm, Adam; Clark, Duncan;
Copeland, Robert; Craster, William; Donaldson, John; Donaldson,
Thomas; Donaldson, William; Dunbar, John; Duncan, Robert; Dunn,
William; Ferguson, Alexander; Ferguson, Donald; Ferguson, James;
Ferguson, Lawrence; Ferguson, Patrick; Finlay, William; Finney,
Robert; Foster, Thomas; Glendenning, John; Graham, Fergus; Grant,
Robert; Harris, John; Henderson, Charles; Holland, Thomas; Home,
Francis; Hunter, John; Johnston, James; Johnston, John; Johnston,
Robert; Kennedy, John; Kerr, John; Kerr, Robert; Kidd, Alexander;
Lindsay, James; Lyon, William; McBean, John; McCullon, John;
McGiliveray, Daniel; McGillivray, William; McGruther, William;
McIntosh, James; McIntosh, James; McIntosh, John; McIntosh, John;
McIntosh, Thomas; McKenney, Alexander; McLoughlan, Archibald;
McNaughton, Malcom; McPhail, Duncan; McPherson, Owen; McQuin, Duncan
or Daniel; Malcom, James; MarJorybanks, George; Martin, William;
Maxwell, William; Menzies, Archibald; Menzies, Robert; Mitchey, John;
Mitchell, David; Mondell, John; Murray, James; Nisbet, James; Noble,
William; Ogilvy, John; Patterson, James; Pattullo, James or John;
Peter, James; Petter, John; Porteous, John; Prophet, Sylvester; Rae,
James; Reid of Mid Clova, Robert; Robinson, James; Robinson, John;
Robinson, Robert; Rutherford, George; Rutherford, John; Rutherford,
John; Shaw, Donald; Shaw, John; Smith, Charles; Smith, Robert;
Stewart, Alexander; Stewart, Alexander; Stewart, Donald; Stewart,
James; Stewart, John; Stewart, John; Stewart, John; Stewart, John;
Stewart, Malcom; Stewart, Patrick; Stewart, Robert; Stewart, Robert;
Stroak (Sturrock?), James; Stuart, Robert; Tankard, Walter; Thompson,
Daniel; Turner, William; Urquhart, James; Watson, James; Watson,
James; Watt, Alexander; White, Alexander; White, John; Wright, William

The above information was compiled from the Calendar of Treasury
Books, State Papers (Colonial), and Calendar of Virginia State Papers.

In regard to spelling, David Dobson (or perhaps the records) did not
distinguish between "MacXXX" and "McXXX"; they are all spelled as the
later.

Dave Fisher

--- In ScottishWarPrisoners@yahoogroups.com, "Leila Boyer"
<boyerlo@g...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>     I may have posed this question several years ago, but thought
it's worth another try in case there are new members with new
information.
>     Does anyone have info about prisoners after the 1715 rebellion
who were sent to Marshalsea Prison and then sent to Virginia? Some
were indentured and others were not.  I am particularly interested
about those who shipped out on the Elizabeth and Ann and landed in
Yorktown in January of 1716. Also, does anyone know where the
Marshalsea Prison records are kept or if any have survived?
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Thanks so much, Dave, you deserve a medal.  I am familiar with the Calendar
of Va. State Papers entry, and some related data noted there that discussed
the fact that some prisoners (who evidently were not included in that list)
who paid Trafford to let them off the ship in Cork! So much for a vacation
in the colonies. Do you have any suggestions for sources that might expand
on the records from Marshalsea? (I think its the prison Dickens wrote about
in Little Dorrit.)  I've done a good bit of research on the 1715 in
Edinburgh, but haven't tackled British records (presumably at Kew.)  Any
ideas?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Fisher" <stonehorse148@...>
To: <ScottishWarPrisoners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 9:15 PM
Subject: [ScottishWarPrisoners] Re: 1715 Rebellion


> Leila,
>
> First, a quick Google search indicated that Marshalsea Prison was in
> London, Borough High Street, Southwark SE1.
>
> In the previously noted directory of Scots banished to America, there
> are many persons noted as captured at Preston in the Rebellion of
> 1715.  For the most part, all the directory entries read as follows:
>
> "NAME
> Jacobite captured at Preston.
> Transported to Virginia or Jamaica on the ELIZABETH
> AND ANNE, master Edward Trafford, from Liverpool
> 29 June 1716.  Landed in Virginia."
>
> A few entries (same voyage) include "York" Virginia.  Some entries
> indicate that the person was indentured, while a couple have other
> amplifying information.
>
> The list of men on the ELIZABETH AND ANNE is as follows:
> Abercromby, John; Abbot, Frederick; Anderson, Robert; Arnott, David;
> Ayston, James; Beatty, Francis; Blackwood, James; Brown,  John;
> Bruce, Alexander; Bruce, Robert; Burne, John; Cane, Hugh; Carr,
> Alexander; Carus, Christopher; Chisholm, Adam; Clark, Duncan;
> Copeland, Robert; Craster, William; Donaldson, John; Donaldson,
> Thomas; Donaldson, William; Dunbar, John; Duncan, Robert; Dunn,
> William; Ferguson, Alexander; Ferguson, Donald; Ferguson, James;
> Ferguson, Lawrence; Ferguson, Patrick; Finlay, William; Finney,
> Robert; Foster, Thomas; Glendenning, John; Graham, Fergus; Grant,
> Robert; Harris, John; Henderson, Charles; Holland, Thomas; Home,
> Francis; Hunter, John; Johnston, James; Johnston, John; Johnston,
> Robert; Kennedy, John; Kerr, John; Kerr, Robert; Kidd, Alexander;
> Lindsay, James; Lyon, William; McBean, John; McCullon, John;
> McGiliveray, Daniel; McGillivray, William; McGruther, William;
> McIntosh, James; McIntosh, James; McIntosh, John; McIntosh, John;
> McIntosh, Thomas; McKenney, Alexander; McLoughlan, Archibald;
> McNaughton, Malcom; McPhail, Duncan; McPherson, Owen; McQuin, Duncan
> or Daniel; Malcom, James; MarJorybanks, George; Martin, William;
> Maxwell, William; Menzies, Archibald; Menzies, Robert; Mitchey, John;
> Mitchell, David; Mondell, John; Murray, James; Nisbet, James; Noble,
> William; Ogilvy, John; Patterson, James; Pattullo, James or John;
> Peter, James; Petter, John; Porteous, John; Prophet, Sylvester; Rae,
> James; Reid of Mid Clova, Robert; Robinson, James; Robinson, John;
> Robinson, Robert; Rutherford, George; Rutherford, John; Rutherford,
> John; Shaw, Donald; Shaw, John; Smith, Charles; Smith, Robert;
> Stewart, Alexander; Stewart, Alexander; Stewart, Donald; Stewart,
> James; Stewart, John; Stewart, John; Stewart, John; Stewart, John;
> Stewart, Malcom; Stewart, Patrick; Stewart, Robert; Stewart, Robert;
> Stroak (Sturrock?), James; Stuart, Robert; Tankard, Walter; Thompson,
> Daniel; Turner, William; Urquhart, James; Watson, James; Watson,
> James; Watt, Alexander; White, Alexander; White, John; Wright, William
>
> The above information was compiled from the Calendar of Treasury
> Books, State Papers (Colonial), and Calendar of Virginia State Papers.
>
> In regard to spelling, David Dobson (or perhaps the records) did not
> distinguish between "MacXXX" and "McXXX"; they are all spelled as the
> later.
>
> Dave Fisher
>
> --- In ScottishWarPrisoners@yahoogroups.com, "Leila Boyer"
> <boyerlo@g...> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >     I may have posed this question several years ago, but thought
> it's worth another try in case there are new members with new
> information.
> >     Does anyone have info about prisoners after the 1715 rebellion
> who were sent to Marshalsea Prison and then sent to Virginia? Some
> were indentured and others were not.  I am particularly interested
> about those who shipped out on the Elizabeth and Ann and landed in
> Yorktown in January of 1716. Also, does anyone know where the
> Marshalsea Prison records are kept or if any have survived?
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
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Sorry, no ideas about Marshalsea.

Dave


--- In ScottishWarPrisoners@yahoogroups.com, "Leila Boyer"
<boyerlo@g...> wrote:
>
> Thanks so much, Dave, you deserve a medal.  I am familiar with the
Calendar
> of Va. State Papers entry, and some related data noted there that
discussed
> the fact that some prisoners (who evidently were not included in
that list)
> who paid Trafford to let them off the ship in Cork! So much for a
vacation
> in the colonies. Do you have any suggestions for sources that might
expand
> on the records from Marshalsea? (I think its the prison Dickens
wrote about
> in Little Dorrit.)  I've done a good bit of research on the 1715 in
> Edinburgh, but haven't tackled British records (presumably at
Kew.)  Any
> ideas?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Fisher" <stonehorse148@y...>
> To: <ScottishWarPrisoners@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 9:15 PM
> Subject: [ScottishWarPrisoners] Re: 1715 Rebellion
>
>
> > Leila,
> >
> > First, a quick Google search indicated that Marshalsea Prison was
in
> > London, Borough High Street, Southwark SE1.
> >
> > In the previously noted directory of Scots banished to America,
there
> > are many persons noted as captured at Preston in the Rebellion of
> > 1715.  For the most part, all the directory entries read as
follows:
> >
> > "NAME
> > Jacobite captured at Preston.
> > Transported to Virginia or Jamaica on the ELIZABETH
> > AND ANNE, master Edward Trafford, from Liverpool
> > 29 June 1716.  Landed in Virginia."
> >
> > A few entries (same voyage) include "York" Virginia.  Some entries
> > indicate that the person was indentured, while a couple have other
> > amplifying information.
> >
> > The list of men on the ELIZABETH AND ANNE is as follows:
> > Abercromby, John; Abbot, Frederick; Anderson, Robert; Arnott,
David;
> > Ayston, James; Beatty, Francis; Blackwood, James; Brown,  John;
> > Bruce, Alexander; Bruce, Robert; Burne, John; Cane, Hugh; Carr,
> > Alexander; Carus, Christopher; Chisholm, Adam; Clark, Duncan;
> > Copeland, Robert; Craster, William; Donaldson, John; Donaldson,
> > Thomas; Donaldson, William; Dunbar, John; Duncan, Robert; Dunn,
> > William; Ferguson, Alexander; Ferguson, Donald; Ferguson, James;
> > Ferguson, Lawrence; Ferguson, Patrick; Finlay, William; Finney,
> > Robert; Foster, Thomas; Glendenning, John; Graham, Fergus; Grant,
> > Robert; Harris, John; Henderson, Charles; Holland, Thomas; Home,
> > Francis; Hunter, John; Johnston, James; Johnston, John; Johnston,
> > Robert; Kennedy, John; Kerr, John; Kerr, Robert; Kidd, Alexander;
> > Lindsay, James; Lyon, William; McBean, John; McCullon, John;
> > McGiliveray, Daniel; McGillivray, William; McGruther, William;
> > McIntosh, James; McIntosh, James; McIntosh, John; McIntosh, John;
> > McIntosh, Thomas; McKenney, Alexander; McLoughlan, Archibald;
> > McNaughton, Malcom; McPhail, Duncan; McPherson, Owen; McQuin,
Duncan
> > or Daniel; Malcom, James; MarJorybanks, George; Martin, William;
> > Maxwell, William; Menzies, Archibald; Menzies, Robert; Mitchey,
John;
> > Mitchell, David; Mondell, John; Murray, James; Nisbet, James;
Noble,
> > William; Ogilvy, John; Patterson, James; Pattullo, James or John;
> > Peter, James; Petter, John; Porteous, John; Prophet, Sylvester;
Rae,
> > James; Reid of Mid Clova, Robert; Robinson, James; Robinson, John;
> > Robinson, Robert; Rutherford, George; Rutherford, John;
Rutherford,
> > John; Shaw, Donald; Shaw, John; Smith, Charles; Smith, Robert;
> > Stewart, Alexander; Stewart, Alexander; Stewart, Donald; Stewart,
> > James; Stewart, John; Stewart, John; Stewart, John; Stewart, John;
> > Stewart, Malcom; Stewart, Patrick; Stewart, Robert; Stewart,
Robert;
> > Stroak (Sturrock?), James; Stuart, Robert; Tankard, Walter;
Thompson,
> > Daniel; Turner, William; Urquhart, James; Watson, James; Watson,
> > James; Watt, Alexander; White, Alexander; White, John; Wright,
William
> >
> > The above information was compiled from the Calendar of Treasury
> > Books, State Papers (Colonial), and Calendar of Virginia State
Papers.
> >
> > In regard to spelling, David Dobson (or perhaps the records) did
not
> > distinguish between "MacXXX" and "McXXX"; they are all spelled as
the
> > later.
> >
> > Dave Fisher
> >
> > --- In ScottishWarPrisoners@yahoogroups.com, "Leila Boyer"
> > <boyerlo@g...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >     I may have posed this question several years ago, but
thought
> > it's worth another try in case there are new members with new
> > information.
> > >     Does anyone have info about prisoners after the 1715
rebellion
> > who were sent to Marshalsea Prison and then sent to Virginia? Some
> > were indentured and others were not.  I am particularly interested
> > about those who shipped out on the Elizabeth and Ann and landed in
> > Yorktown in January of 1716. Also, does anyone know where the
> > Marshalsea Prison records are kept or if any have survived?
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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G'day!

I have just joined the List and am a little unsure of whether I can
benefit or assist.

I am researching the name of GUIL/GUILE/GOLD as the name was recorded in
the Parish Registers at Douglas in Lanarkshire, Scotland. The name was
obviously seated in the town well before the extant records reveal and
the male members were predominantly miners at Rigside.

I have seen several references to the fact that these Douglas/Rigside
people staunchly supported the Covenanter movement. I suppose I am now
looking for guidance to extend my knowledge of the family through the
possibility that some may have been captured and sent to America,
thereby creating some gaps in families and sudden cessation of children
in others.

Can anyone assist me?

Bill
Melbourne, Oz

The Scottish soldiers that were deported to America were captured by the
Cromwell forces at the Battles  of Dunbar and Worcester.  the Worcester
captives were on the John and Sarah which departed Gravesend  in Nov
1651 arrived in Boston before 14 May 1652.  There is no one in the John
and  Sara list with a name like one of yours.

I do not think there was a passenger list of the dunbar capives on the
Unity but most went to the Iron Works in Saugus, then Lynn, or
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Works papers and the Vital Records of Essex County.

the Golds/Goulds in the Essex County VRs are after 1700.  There was a
Zaccheus Gould probably of Lynn mentioned in the Essex County Probate in
1644 and later.  There were several Zaccheus Gould's in the late 1600s.
  Some are probably the same man as he moved from town to town but no
records connect them..

bob gillis

Bill Eye wrote:

>G'day!
>
>I have just joined the List and am a little unsure of whether I can
>benefit or assist.
>
>I am researching the name of GUIL/GUILE/GOLD as the name was recorded in
>the Parish Registers at Douglas in Lanarkshire, Scotland. The name was
>obviously seated in the town well before the extant records reveal and
>the male members were predominantly miners at Rigside.
>
>I have seen several references to the fact that these Douglas/Rigside
>people staunchly supported the Covenanter movement. I suppose I am now
>looking for guidance to extend my knowledge of the family through the
>possibility that some may have been captured and sent to America,
>thereby creating some gaps in families and sudden cessation of children
>in others.
>

Hi,
I haven't done much with this group in a while, I've
been getting lots of junk mail through this list.  But
I wonder if there were any Abernathy/Abernethys on the
John and Sara?  I have some info on Robert Abernathy
coming from the Cathedral where many pows were held
after the Battles of Dunbar/Worcester, and being sent
over here to Charles City?-Ericka

--- bob gillis <robertgillis@...> wrote:

> The Scottish soldiers that were deported to America
> were captured by the
> Cromwell forces at the Battles  of Dunbar and
> Worcester.  the Worcester
> captives were on the John and Sarah which departed
> Gravesend  in Nov
> 1651 arrived in Boston before 14 May 1652.  There is
> no one in the John
> and  Sara list with a name like one of yours.
>
> I do not think there was a passenger list of the
> dunbar capives on the
> Unity but most went to the Iron Works in Saugus,
> then Lynn, or
> Braintree.  There are references to those some of
> those men in the Iron
> Works papers and the Vital Records of Essex County.
>
> the Golds/Goulds in the Essex County VRs are after
> 1700.  There was a
> Zaccheus Gould probably of Lynn mentioned in the
> Essex County Probate in
> 1644 and later.  There were several Zaccheus Gould's
> in the late 1600s.
>  Some are probably the same man as he moved from
> town to town but no
> records connect them..
>
> bob gillis
>
> Bill Eye wrote:
>
> >G'day!
> >
> >I have just joined the List and am a little unsure
> of whether I can
> >benefit or assist.
> >
> >I am researching the name of GUIL/GUILE/GOLD as the
> name was recorded in
> >the Parish Registers at Douglas in Lanarkshire,
> Scotland. The name was
> >obviously seated in the town well before the extant
> records reveal and
> >the male members were predominantly miners at
> Rigside.
> >
> >I have seen several references to the fact that
> these Douglas/Rigside
> >people staunchly supported the Covenanter movement.
> I suppose I am now
> >looking for guidance to extend my knowledge of the
> family through the
> >possibility that some may have been captured and
> sent to America,
> >thereby creating some gaps in families and sudden
> cessation of children
> >in others.
> >
>
>
>


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bob gillis wrote:
> The Scottish soldiers that were deported to America were captured by the
> Cromwell forces at the Battles  of Dunbar and Worcester.  the Worcester
> captives were on the John and Sarah which departed Gravesend  in Nov
> 1651 arrived in Boston before 14 May 1652.  There is no one in the John
> and  Sara list with a name like one of yours.
>
> I do not think there was a passenger list of the dunbar capives on the
> Unity but most went to the Iron Works in Saugus, then Lynn, or
> Braintree.  There are references to those some of those men in the Iron
> Works papers and the Vital Records of Essex County.
>
> the Golds/Goulds in the Essex County VRs are after 1700.  There was a
> Zaccheus Gould probably of Lynn mentioned in the Essex County Probate in
> 1644 and later.  There were several Zaccheus Gould's in the late 1600s.
>  Some are probably the same man as he moved from town to town but no
> records connect them..
>
> bob gillis
>
> Bill Eye wrote:
>
>
G'day Bob,

Such a quick response!

Thanks for the resume, I suppose on the face of things, it is unlikely
that there were any of my people involved or that I would have any real
chance of tracing them.

But I will stay on the List for a while, just in case something
evolves.....and at least I am learning something!

Thanks,

Bill

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