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#232 From: "Co Owner" <maccone4@...>
Date: Sun Apr 11, 2004 3:12 pm
Subject: Re: Mackhoe on the John and Sara
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--- In ScottishWarPrisoners@yahoogroups.com, Tom Cone <crenbut@y...>
wrote:
>
> --- Larry Highman <medievaltents@h...> wrote:
> > This is in reply to Tom Cone's post.  Tom said that
> > he believes he is
> > decended from Neil Mackhoe.  I am descended from
> > Daniel Cone and there is
> > some belief that he was Daniel Mackhoe on the John
> > and Sara.  Tom, do you
> > have any "proof" that Neil Mackhoe changed his name
> > to Cone?
>
> No, I think that was something Jesse did, probably
> when he got to North Carolina.
>
> >Wm Cone replies:  >
In researching the Cone's mainly in the Southern States it
appears that Neil Machone is the progentor of many of these lines.
For many years after the Some Account of the Cone family In America
the consensus was that Daniel Machoe was the blue blood of all Cone
Lineages that sought reconginition in the SAR and DAR.

One thing that is most apparent is that Daniel was Daniel Machoe with
the rooster of the prisoners followed by Neile Machone. The "N" was
the only letter of difference in the spelling.

Certainly the most obvious thing in common was two points. First
these were prisoners taken at Worchester in 1651 and transported in
1652 to Mass.The spelling and proxiemity of the Machoe and Machone on
the list as presented across the internet.

Neile Machone actualy in the records did not change to Cone as there
is his Last Will and Testament as recorded in the Isle of WIght
Parrish, Virginia in 1680. Adding too a William Maccone recorde his
Will in the same parrish in 1710.

Then it appears an Aaron Peter Cone turned up in North Carolina which
it does semm this may have been the transformation point of the
Maccone to Cone. Peter had several sons yet during the American
Revolution his namesake saw things to become a loyalist or Tory
poloticaly remaining loyal to the King, yet after all was said and
done this Cone imagrated to Nova Scotia and the State of North
Carolina seized property and removed these partys from records.

I dont see where Tom Cone's Jesse comes in but there were several
Jesse Cones. DNA testing does show that many the Cones south of the
Mason Dixon do not relate to those that can successfuly say they are
of Daniel Mchoe "Cone" which leads some to question any relation back
beyond the voyage of the John and Sara. I add that the Book SACFA was
done at turn of the century by mail replys to W.W.Cone and although a
true work of earnest, there are some conflicts mainly in the lineages
of the Southern group.
Wm. Cone
A Descendent of Lewis Cone of North Carolina from Georgia.
>

Hey, sure!  Anyone doing work in this direction is an
> ally.  Heck, you're family... maybe.
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#233 From: bob gillis <rpgillis@...>
Date: Mon Apr 12, 2004 9:39 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Mackhoe on the John and Sara
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Co Owner wrote:
>
snip

>
> One thing that is most apparent is that Daniel was Daniel Machoe with
> the roster of the prisoners followed by Neile Machone. The "N" was
> the only letter of difference in the spelling.
>
> Certainly the most obvious thing in common was two points. First
> these were prisoners taken at Worchester in 1651 and transported in
> 1652 to Mass.The spelling and proxiemity of the Machoe and Machone on
> the list as presented across the internet.>

In a transcription of the letter filed in the Massachusetts Deeds
contained in Vol 1 of the NEHGR, Page 377-379  Dan: Mackhoe is followed
by Dan: Mackajne.  Neile Mackhone is 23 names earlier in the listing.  I
feel that  the the order in the NEHGR reflects the order in the letter
as the names are not in order.

You cannot make any assumptions based on the sort of a such a list in an
on-line transcription.

In the list there is also a David Mackhome in Col 1, and Senly Mackonne,
Daniell Mackhan, and Alester Mackhene in Col 2.  Neile Mackhone is in
Col 5 and Dan: Mackhoe in Col 6 of 6.

bob gillis

#234 From: bob gillis <rpgillis@...>
Date: Tue Apr 13, 2004 1:07 pm
Subject: Messages from MSN Customer support
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Every time I send a message to ScottishWar Prisoners I get a return
message from "MSN Customer Support" <webmaster@...>.  the latest one
had a subject:

RE: CST154628131ID - Re: [ScottishWarPrisoners] Re: Mackhoe on the John
and Sara.

Somehow the group must have this address as a member.  Would the List
Moderator/Owner/Administrator please check the address of members and
remove this address.  This is the only YahooGroups list that I get these
from.

bob gillis

#235 From: "Larry Highman" <medievaltents@...>
Date: Fri Apr 16, 2004 3:10 pm
Subject: Daniel Cone
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On the Haddam CT web page, they list Daniel Cone with (MackHoe)
after it.  I don't think they listed it that way a few years back when I
started searching on the internet.  I wonder if they have found a proof that
Daniel MackHoe on the John and Sara was our Daniel Cone.

Jan Cone Highman




> > --- Larry Highman <medievaltents@h...> wrote:
> > > This is in reply to Tom Cone's post.  Tom said that
> > > he believes he is
> > > decended from Neil Mackhoe.  I am descended from
> > > Daniel Cone and there is
> > > some belief that he was Daniel Mackhoe on the John
> > > and Sara.  Tom, do you
> > > have any "proof" that Neil Mackhoe changed his name
> > > to Cone?
> >
> > No, I think that was something Jesse did, probably
> > when he got to North Carolina.
> >
>

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#236 From: "Co Owner" <Maccone4@...>
Date: Sun May 16, 2004 11:15 am
Subject: Scots Regiments at Worcester UK History
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Here is a Link to the Scots Regiment at Worcester UK 1651
Battlehttp://www.electricscotland.com/history/articles/worcester.htm

#237 From: "Co Owner" <Maccone4@...>
Date: Sun May 16, 2004 11:39 am
Subject: Re: Daniel Cone
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--- In ScottishWarPrisoners@yahoogroups.com, "Larry Highman"
<medievaltents@h...> wrote:
> On the Haddam CT web page, they list Daniel Cone with (MackHoe)
> after it.  I don't think they listed it that way a few years back
when I
> started searching on the internet.  I wonder if they have found a
proof that
> Daniel MackHoe on the John and Sara was our Daniel Cone.
>
> Jan Cone Highman
>
>
>
>
> > > --- Larry Highman <medievaltents@h...> wrote:
> > > > This is in reply to Tom Cone's post.  Tom said that
> > > > he believes he is
> > > > decended from Neil Mackhoe.  I am descended from
> > > > Daniel Cone and there is
> > > > some belief that he was Daniel Mackhoe on the John
> > > > and Sara.  Tom, do you
> > > > have any "proof" that Neil Mackhoe changed his name
> > > > to Cone?
> > >
> > > No, I think that was something Jesse did, probably
> > > when he got to North Carolina.
> > >
> >
>
>>>>>>>>>> When one gets down to it The Descendents of the Cone
lineages are and have been for years claiming Daniel Cone was Daniel
Mchoe even in their DAR and SAR applications for membership adding to
that W W Cone who wrote Some Account of the Cone Family in America
after reciving back mail from those he wrote to and the fact is that
the book is written based on the replies he recived back in that the
responses were a sum of 98 percent from the Daniel Cone lineages. The
Southern group did write him but it was a write off on their part as
he did in fact write one rather boldly and so challanged him to write
and tell him who his daddy was if he could read and write. And there
is a copy of that letter. But take his book and see who did write W W
Cone with Cone Family information. It's sorta like fruing catfish
when you shake them in a bag of corn meal.After they are coated how
would one be capable of telling if that one was the one they caught
as they all will come out of the bag coated, and ready to hit the
pan. Some of the Cone genealogist can't even keep their William Cones
straight even by who they each were married to. Some even proclaim
one was having families with two differant women in two differant
Georgia Counties at the same time. I realize that some have notions
that Southerners are backwoods but give it a rest at least for those
gone on and even more for those who today bear the Cone name.

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#238 From: "June Raw" <june@...>
Date: Sun May 16, 2004 12:18 pm
Subject: Cardno connection at the Battle of Worcester
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Hi everyone
This is possibly a long shot - but any details would be very much
appreciated ! I am researching my CARDNO family line and so far have
managed to trace back to a James Cardno who fought at the Battle of
Worcester. Rumour has it that he helped Alexander Fraser escape at
the end of the battle and they both made it back to Fraserburgh,
Aberdeenshire.I have not been able find any other links - or definate
proof that this information is 100% correct.I have managed to compile
large amounts of data from around 1620 to the present day.
If any one has information on the Cardno line / Cardno folk connected
to the battle /  then I would love to
hear from them and I am also willing to share my research details if
anyone is interested.
Many thanks - June

#239 From: bob gillis <rpgillis@...>
Date: Sun May 16, 2004 12:32 pm
Subject: Re: Scots Regiments at Worcester UK History
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Co Owner wrote:
>
> Here is a Link to the Scots Regiment at Worcester UK 1651
> Battlehttp://www.electricscotland.com/history/articles/worcester.htm
>

In my browser the right side of the first two paragraphs were hidden by
frames?  of links. By saving and opening in WORD I was able to read.

Here is part of the paragraph with some corrections:

"The following List shows the [regiments of] Scots wh[ich] fought at the
Battle of Worcester, UK on September 3, 1651 [u]nder Leslie for Charles
I against the forces of Oliver Cromwell. These Regiments came from all
parts of Scotland and are identified as having been at Worcester.
Referenced by the Edinburgh Castle Museum as historicaly factual. These
Regiments represented an army of Scots under David Leslie and
Keith....."

Are there any records that show the names of the members of these
regiments?

bob gillis

#240 From: Maccone4@...
Date: Sun May 16, 2004 12:36 pm
Subject: Re: Scots Regiments at Worcester UK History
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That is being researched for in Edinbourgh Scotland and as of yet no thing
being reported


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#241 From: "onpmfmdb147" <onpmfmdb147@...>
Date: Mon Jun 14, 2004 5:24 pm
Subject: Important News for ScottishWarPrisoners Members
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#242 From: bob gillis <rpgillis@...>
Date: Tue Jun 15, 2004 9:45 pm
Subject: Re: Important News for ScottishWarPrisoners Members
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I gather that all received this Spam sent to the list.  I have seen Spam
ona couple of other Yahoo Groups.  I trust the moderator has reported
this to Yahoo Groups.

bob gillis

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#244 From: "Dan Fraas" <fraasrd@...>
Date: Mon Aug 30, 2004 2:39 pm
Subject: Covenanter martyrdom pics?
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I'm looking for a picture to use on the flyer for our (Presbyterian)
study on the
Westminster Confession of Faith.  I thought it might be pertinent to
show how many were tortured and killed for their belief in the truths
contained in it.  I think we need something that will
really jump out at them. Does anyone have any pics of
Presbyterian and/or Covenanter martyrdoms? Were there any
illustrations in the "Scots Worthies" or perhaps "A Hind Let Loose?"
Scary is good if it scares off the right people.

thanks,

Riley

#245 From: "MacCone Group" <Maccone4@...>
Date: Mon Sep 13, 2004 12:46 pm
Subject: The Nerve of posting such
maccone4
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Clearly disgudting that a such a message was posted on a family
orientated site. These weirdos seem to feel that they have rights to
invade wholesome and family orientated sites with their behavior and
I for one see this as crude and pervated behavior that should be not
tolerated at all. Our family list has suffered by those that should
have stayed in their closet with their brethern of low moral
standards.I dont care for such behavior and that is my view of these
sick weirdos. That is my right to state such. This site is no dating
site but a research site. Take your garbage back into your closet and
close the door.........

#246 From: bob gillis <rpgillis@...>
Date: Mon Sep 13, 2004 6:31 pm
Subject: Re: The Nerve of posting such
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MacCone Group wrote:
>
> Clearly disgudting that a such a message was posted on a family
> orientated site. These weirdos seem to feel that they have rights to
> invade wholesome and family orientated sites with their behavior and
> I for one see this as crude and pervated behavior that should be not
> tolerated at all. Our family list has suffered by those that should
> have stayed in their closet with their brethern of low moral
> standards.I dont care for such behavior and that is my view of these
> sick weirdos. That is my right to state such. This site is no dating
> site but a research site. Take your garbage back into your closet and
> close the door.........
>

What are you talking about?  I have not received any off color messages
on this list in over two or three months.  Some porn sites have found a
way to subscribe to Yahoo Groups but I think Yahoo has stopped them.

bob gillis

#247 From: "MARY MASON" <mmason50@...>
Date: Tue Sep 14, 2004 12:06 am
Subject: Re: The Nerve of posting such
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I have not received anything either.  ??

Mary

----- Original Message -----
From: bob gillis
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To: ScottishWarPrisoners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ScottishWarPrisoners] The Nerve of posting such

MacCone Group wrote:
>
> Clearly disgudting that a such a message was posted on a family
> orientated site. These weirdos seem to feel that they have rights to
> invade wholesome and family orientated sites with their behavior and
> I for one see this as crude and pervated behavior that should be not
> tolerated at all. Our family list has suffered by those that should
> have stayed in their closet with their brethern of low moral
> standards.I dont care for such behavior and that is my view of these
> sick weirdos. That is my right to state such. This site is no dating
> site but a research site. Take your garbage back into your closet and
> close the door.........
>

What are you talking about?  I have not received any off color messages
on this list in over two or three months.  Some porn sites have found a
way to subscribe to Yahoo Groups but I think Yahoo has stopped them.

bob gillis

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#248 From: SusanG1400@...
Date: Wed Sep 22, 2004 7:08 pm
Subject: Articles in HIghlander Magazine about Scottish War Prisoners
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Recently I learned that a two-part series of articles about the
Scottish War Prisoners is appearing in The Highlander magazine.  The series is
titled "Scottish Slaves in Colonial New England" by Diane Rapaport.  The first
article is in the current issue (Sept./Oct. issue) of this magazine.  The second
article will be in the Nov./Dec. issue which is supposed to come out in late
October.
     It is possible to purchase individual issues of this magazine.  This is
the magazine's address:

         The Highlander
         P.O. Box 760
         Vandalia, Ohio 45377

         Telephone:  1-800-607-4410

     I hope this information will be of interest to you.

Sincerely,

Susan M. Grady
Alexandria, Virginia


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#249 From: dillard_he@...
Date: Wed Sep 22, 2004 11:08 pm
Subject: Re: Articles in HIghlander Magazine about Scottish War Prisoners
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#250 From: dillard_he@...
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Subject: Re: Re: Articles in HIghlander Magazine about Scottish War Prisoners
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#252 From: dillard_he@...
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#254 From: dillard_he@...
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#256 From: dillard_he@...
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#257 From: JennyCone@...
Date: Wed Sep 22, 2004 8:06 pm
Subject: Highlander Magazine
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You may also subscribe online to this magazine at:

www.highlandermagazine.com

I received my first issue very promptly and am looking forward to Diane's
second article on "Scottish Slaves in Colonial New England".

Jennifer Cone


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#260 From: "Dale Leathead Juno" <dleathead1@...>
Date: Thu Sep 23, 2004 12:25 am
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Hi can someone out get these messages turned off? I have received 10 of them in
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#261 From: SusanG1400@...
Date: Mon Oct 4, 2004 8:23 pm
Subject: Descendants of Scottish War Prisoners
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Hello!

     I was wondering where in the United States the descendants of Scottish
War Prisoners live?  If you would like to tell me, I would appreciate it.  Could
you also please tell me where your Scots War Prisoner ancestor was sent in
the Thirteen Colonies?
     My mother's ancestor was Walter Jackson who fought at the Battle of
Worcester on September 3, 1651.  He was sent on the ship John and Sara to
Boston,
Massachusetts Bay Colony.  He worked in Exeter, New Hampshire in the sawmill of
Nicholas Lissen, a Scot who paid the ship's captain for Walter Jackson's
passage money.  After seven years Walter Jackson was given his freedom.  In 1683
he died in Durham, New Hampshire.
     I live in Alexandria, Virginia, near Washington, D.C.
     Thank you for responding to my message.

Sincerely,

Susan M. Grady


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