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#33 From: "WhiteWolf" <WhiteWolf_McBride@...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 12:22 am
Subject: Re: Rivet-Rivet
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--- In Sci-Fi_Armor@yahoogroups.com, j.dumhard@t... wrote:
> Dan,
>
> I guess you call this sheet plastic "styrene
> board" or "polystyrene board".

Styrene it is. And Evergreen is the biggest N.A.
retailer, but their prices can be expensive. I've
found that looking at a sign-maker or plastics
place you can often find equivalent 'scraps' for
a much better price. Regular styrene will take
model glues, but the German kit stuff is wierd,
and you need to use a ~liquid~ solvent glue like
Tenax-R.

I had to use the Canadian version for a tainted
plastic kit from 30 years ago, & while tube-glue
was useless and epoxy and CA as well, the solvent
worked like a charm. You'll want a tool called a
"Touch-n-Flow". Do a web-search and you can find
them sold together as a 'kit'. I love the stuff,
& doubt I'll ever go back, using the last of my
tubes as 'filler'

As for paints, if stays attached to the plastic,
use it. Lots are using the Tremclad aerosol camo
colors for their tanks.

WhiteWolf

#32 From: j.dumhard@...
Date: Thu Dec 18, 2003 5:40 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Rivet-Rivet
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Dan,

here are a few links in Germany, whereas the "architekturbedarf.de" has
the best prices but "modulor" is also in English.  This Polystyrol
(German spelling) is the same material as the "evergreen" profiles they
sell at hobby stores and I guess you call this sheet plastic "styrene
board" or "polystyrene board".

http://www.modulor.de/
http://www.architekturbedarf.de/Shop/Modellbau1/Kunststoff/Polystyrol/polystyrol\
.html
http://www.bastler-zentrale.de/

Here is one link from IL which I found over google looking for "styrene
board sheet plastic". They will know what you want.

http://www.adaptplastics.com/contact.htm

These people sell a book on styrene modelling:

http://www.fleetscale.co.uk/system/index.html
http://www.ppw-aline.com/books.htm

The deck of my avenger and the turret are 2mm, the round part on the
turret is bent round and is of 0,5mm Styrene. The best is a good
selection of sheets form 0,5mm (for fine and rounded) over 1 and 2mm
(for normal buildung) up to 3, 4 and 5 mm (Tank Hull or stressed parts).
You use the same glue and paints as for your 1/35th scale models.

Hope I was of some help.

Regards,

Hannes




grauwulf@... schrieb:

> Greetings All,
>
> Well Duh! -- Smacks forehead with heal of hand. -- And I didn't think
> of any of this? Now I know I'm loosing it! --LOL
>
> Thanks for all of the Ideas / reminders guys!!!
>
> Hannes, thanks for the Great Photos! I would really like to see your
> Avenger once its completed.
>
> BTW -- You mentioned this sheet plastic (polystyrol). I've been
> hunting around town here for some time now for something just like
> that. Can't find it anywhere. (Hey, this IS Montana you know. --LOL)
> The closes that I can get is this thin useless Styrofoam like stuff
> that seems rather popular with the Crafters these days. Would anybody
> happen to have any Links to some online sources for this plastic or
> something similar??? Preferably available in different thickness???
> Working with wood, sheet-metal and Plexiglas are all well and good,
> but sheet-plastic could sure make my life a lot easier.
>
>
> Dan
>
>

#31 From: grauwulf@...
Date: Thu Dec 18, 2003 12:53 pm
Subject: Re: Rivet-Rivet
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Greetings All,

Well Duh! -- Smacks forehead with heal of hand. -- And I didn't think
of any of this? Now I know I'm loosing it! --LOL

Thanks for all of the Ideas / reminders guys!!!

Hannes, thanks for the Great Photos! I would really like to see your
Avenger once its completed.

BTW -- You mentioned this sheet plastic (polystyrol). I've been
hunting around town here for some time now for something just like
that. Can't find it anywhere. (Hey, this IS Montana you know. --LOL)
The closes that I can get is this thin useless Styrofoam like stuff
that seems rather popular with the Crafters these days. Would anybody
happen to have any Links to some online sources for this plastic or
something similar??? Preferably available in different thickness???
Working with wood, sheet-metal and Plexiglas are all well and good,
but sheet-plastic could sure make my life a lot easier.


Dan

#30 From: "hannibal160169" <j.dumhard@...>
Date: Mon Dec 15, 2003 4:44 pm
Subject: Re: Rivet-Rivet
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Hi Dan,

I added the pics with to the "Avenger" folder...

Regards,

Hannes

#29 From: "WhiteWolf" <WhiteWolf_McBride@...>
Date: Mon Dec 15, 2003 3:11 am
Subject: Re: Rivet-Rivet
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ERF, should have remembered this when I was
posting, but had other trash on my mind.
I thought about dollar-store common pins,
pack of 100 for a buck...

If you want the heads a bit bigger, Walmart,
in with the beading supplies, "sequin pins"
(#73551 by Create-a-Craft, blue header card)

They look like a cross between a big short
pin and a small nail, 1/2" long, and only
$1.29 for 300, if I remember right (Cdn)
They came in both silver and brass colors.
I have the header card if anyone needs the
bar code #'s... (*stuff them in the bag so
when I get low, I know what to buy again)

Need thin metal? Strip a pop can down! Use
an old pair of scissors or knife & saw the
ends of, and then among the seam, & presto.
A nice size piece of thin metal, for DIY
metal parts (like simulated PE fenders, etc)

And in the same aisles: rope? braided cord
for necklaces.

Storage? I've found the Plano tackle-trays
are perfect. Many sizes, depths & dividers.
I have one for Tamiya/metric hardware, one
for my German gear, another for my Allied,
then detailing parts I've not yet painted
or added (or just is 'left over')

Insulation for capacitor leads? Use the
casing from solid telco wiring.

Thats all I can think of for now...

WhiteWolf

#27 From: j.dumhard@...
Date: Sun Dec 14, 2003 6:58 pm
Subject: Re: Rivet-Rivet
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Hi Dan,

I used tiny 1mm brass nails from the hardware store  (like you would use to fix little hooks to the back picture frames) on my 1/12the scale HUMVEE "Avenger"-conversion to replicate rivets.

When you scratch build of polystyrol (we get that stuff here in Germany, it is a type of sheet plastic for making mainly architectual models) just make the holes into the plastic with a hot needle and glue the little nail in. Then clip the rest off from the back. When painted it looks quite realistic.

Should your scale be smaller you could also use rivets for model railways - these are of course much more expensive than the nails from the hardware store as you can immagine. To get the whole thing in a nice row you might want to draw a line withe the exact positions for the rivets to sit on.

Here you can see the Avenger-turret before and after "riveting".


Also on the rear deck before and after "riveting" - and with the paint job it looks quite ok.


Hope I was of any help to you.

Regards,

Hannes

grauwulf schrieb:
Greetings All,

A couple of the vehicle designs that I'm working on tend to favor a
more Heavy Metal look to the finished body. Does anyone here have any
suggestions on how I can replicate consistent rows of rivets all
retaining relatively the same size and shape??? 


Dan


#26 From: "grauwulf" <grauwulf@...>
Date: Sun Dec 14, 2003 2:35 pm
Subject: Rivet-Rivet
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Greetings All,

A couple of the vehicle designs that I'm working on tend to favor a
more Heavy Metal look to the finished body. Does anyone here have any
suggestions on how I can replicate consistent rows of rivets all
retaining relatively the same size and shape???


Dan

#25 From: "grauwulf" <grauwulf@...>
Date: Sat Dec 13, 2003 3:51 pm
Subject: Re: Questions:
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Greetings White Wolf,

>One of the Sci-Fi/Ancients miniatures crossovers did
>this, was called Space 1889. I played a session, was
>quite fun, they had armed dirigables too.<

I went hunting about and wondered if you might have seen this site.

Landships
http://zeitcom.com/majgen/60lshp.html

Throw an active weapons system and an RC unit onboard and these things
could really be a bit of fun! --LOL

Landships vs. armed dirigibles. Now that could get interesting. To bad
that there doesn't seem to be all that much interest in this field of
speculative Sci-Fi.

Dan

#24 From: "grauwulf" <grauwulf@...>
Date: Sat Dec 13, 2003 3:06 pm
Subject: Reinventing The Wheel
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Greetings All,

Okay, I've run into a bit of a wall of my own creation. For sometime
now I have been trying to reinvent the paintball gun. Why? Lots of
reasons.

1) I want a compact weapon system that will fit into an RC vehicle
that is smaller than my old life-size pickup truck.

2) I want the components to be cheap, simple, easy to repair/replace
and be available for all from any local hardware store.

3) I really like to be able to SEE that I have hit something when I
shoot at it.

4) Cheap.

5) I don't have a machine shop so I really don't want to have to go out
and buy one just to downsize an off the shelf PBM.

6) I don't want to pay out the wazzoo for that PBM that I would have
to chop all up anyway.

7) Did I mention Cheap?


I have been looking over the systems used by the Ship To Ship Warfare
groups ( http://www.swampworks.com/Catalog-BB%20systems.html ) and I
can't believe that PBM's can not be done along much the same line. I
more than realize that the type of ammo used by each has a lot to do
with design limits, but I refuse to give up! There has simply got to
be something that can be done about scaling down the breech systems on
the standard PBM. Even a 6mm PB ammo firing unit would be as large as
a 1/16 or 1/24 scale tank.

Any ideas guys??????????


Dan

#23 From: Grauwolf <grauwulf@...>
Date: Sat Dec 13, 2003 2:21 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Questions:
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Greetings White Wolf,

>> Regarding the 1/6 scale sandbags. -- You might want
>> to check with these guys at RCArmor. They like their
>> stuff BIG!

>Already have an ad there, and the majority are 1/16,
>like me (smirk)

Sorry, must have sent you the wrong link. Try this one. I know these
guys only do 1/6 scale, production line battle tank, paintball combat.

RC Tank Combat
http://www.rctankcombat.com/


In a Multi-Dimensional Battle Arena scale is only relevant to the eye
of the beholder. A very good prime example would be the old early
Robotech cartoon series. "Micronians" (Earthlings) who could stand in
the palm of the hand of their giant adversaries yet could still kick
their giant behinds! --LOL


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#22 From: Grauwolf <grauwulf@...>
Date: Sat Dec 13, 2003 2:04 pm
Subject: Re: Re: R/C Armor on the cheap
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Greetings John,

You've got a great site there! Tons of Links and the FAQ were very
helpful. I'll certainly need a lot more time to explore. Thanks.

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#21 From: "WhiteWolf" <WhiteWolf_McBride@...>
Date: Wed Dec 10, 2003 2:06 am
Subject: Re: Rail Gun Lights
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--- In Sci-Fi_Armor@yahoogroups.com, "grauwulf" <grauwulf@y...> wrote:
> Greetings White Wolf,
>
> I was doing some thinking about that sequential
> light system you wanted for your rail gun. Short
> of bread boarding your own circuit I think I may
> have come up with a couple of ideas. That is if
> you don't mind some suggestions from an old
> scavenger regarding some less than conventional
> sources.

Thought about those , its geting the 'flash' and
the 'pulse' effects to co-ordinate. I can do them
separately without a problem ( old Tamiya KT flash
unit + LED counter circuit) but its how to get one
to set off the other...

And given a diagram, I can make it; trained as an
Electronics Engineering Tech in college, built a
'KITT' type nose-scanner for an RC car as extra
credit (not that I needed it) still have the board

> BTW All --
> I just grabbed a new David Drake Slammers book,
> "Paying The Piper". I haven't even had time to
> flip through the pages yet. Saw it at the grocery
> store, grabbed it and went. Hope that its not
> another repackage job. (Old book with a new cover
> and/or title.)

Bad news Dan, its a partial recycle. I have all the
others. Give me the story names and I could tell ya
which one it was in initially.

I'm almost desperate enough to buy it just for the
new stories. But with about 3 of Weber's behind, and
at least 3 others I want, its a low priority.

Oh, saw that Hasbro is re-releasing 3 & 3/4 inchers!
New sculpts too, apparently. One of the new ones called
" Wild Bill" looks like Stone Cold Steve Austin.

They used to make wonderful vehicle crews...

#20 From: "grauwulf" <grauwulf@...>
Date: Tue Dec 9, 2003 11:06 pm
Subject: Rail Gun Lights
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Greetings White Wolf,

I was doing some thinking about that sequential light system you
wanted for your rail gun. Short of bread boarding your own circuit I
think I may have come up with a couple of ideas. That is if you don't
mind some suggestions from an old scavenger regarding some less than
conventional sources.

Auto Parts Stores -- The kids around here like to add fancy light
systems to their Rump Rockets. I've even seen light up valve stem
caps. Go figure.

Discount Stores -- A lot of those cheap, made in Taiwan type Ray Guns
and emergency rescue vehicles use flashing and sequential light
systems. Most might only put you out a buck or two.

X'mas and Craft Stores -- Tis the Season. I've seen a lot of small
battery powered X'mas light goodies around of late. Whole strings of
lights that can be set to flash through any number of combinations.
Some of these unit are extremely small. The only drawback is that you
will have to figure out how to keep the unit from playing Jingle Bells
every time you fire your gun. --LOL

Just some No Budget ideas. Parts Are Parts!


BTW All -- I just grabbed a new David Drake Slammers book, "Paying The
Piper". I haven't even had time to flip through the pages yet. Saw it
at the grocery store, grabbed it and went. Hope that its not another
repackage job. (Old book with a new cover and/or title.)


Dan

#19 From: "WhiteWolf" <WhiteWolf_McBride@...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 10:55 am
Subject: Re: Questions:
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--- Grauwolf <grauwulf@y...> wrote:
> Greetings White Wolf and All,
>
> Preferred Scale -- 1/20 (3 3/4 GI Joe stuff)
> Size is easy to work with and parts are darn
> near everywhere.

1/16 here, to use the Tamiya stuff, though shifting
a bit smaller to use the 1/18's would be ok.

> Favorite Sci-Fi --
> Video = Aliens, Starship Troopers, (and all of the
> off the wall Sci-Fi stuff - MIB, Evolution,
> Wild, Wild West, Mars Attacks!, etc. --LOL)
> TV = Space Above and Beyond, Babylon 5
> Books = David Drake, Ian Douglas, HG Wells,
> Jules Verne, Michael Moorcock, Harry Harrison,
> Douglas Adams

Ain't Video TV & Movies about the same these days?

Old U.F.O. series (SHADO-Mobile) by the Andersons;
Space Above & Beyond was mostly fighters, but nice;
The customized Hummers in 'Earth 2' (short-lived TV);
B5 of course (got both Star Fury's, want a White Star)
And you forgot Keith Laumer (Bolo's & Retief) but I
definately agree on Drake, Wells, & Verne.

> QUESTION --
> If you could only pick just one ultimate dream
> armored RC combat vehicle, irregardless of cost
> or available technology, to build?
> What would it be???
>
> My #1 Choice - The Hammers Slammer's Tank complete
> with working Tri-barrels. (One of these days!!!)

The Tanks had the 20mm Powergun as main armament, and
a tribarrel on the roof, the Combat Cars had the trio
of Tribarrels in the bed (styled on 'Nam GunTrucks)
and yea, Drake was in 'Nam...

> My Second Choice -- An Ironclad Land Ship (Sort of a,
> What If the Civil War had dragged on for a couple of
> decades?, thing. I love that very heavy metal with
> brass trimmings look! Think about it, a steam powered
> tank! Wow! --LOL)

One of the Sci-Fi/Ancients miniatures crossovers did
this, was called Space 1889. I played a session, was
quite fun, they had armed dirigables too.

> Regarding the 1/6 scale sandbags. -- You might want
> to check with these guys at RCArmor. They like their
> stuff BIG!

Already have an ad there, and the majority are 1/16,
like me (smirk)

> Dan

WhiteWolf

#18 From: "mmgun2001" <bolligj@...>
Date: Sun Dec 7, 2003 9:56 pm
Subject: Re: R/C Armor on the cheap
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Dan,

I can tell you that some of our members have had Good luck with the
Hen Long Brand of tank. These tanks are 1/24th scale and shoot a 6mm
BB made of plastic.  You can pick on up on Ebay for less than 25
dollars. Go on to the Marui Tank Group website and go to links. When
you get to links, you will find " places to get airsoft tanks" Go to
that site and click on the ones that sell Hen Long Tanks. I think
you will find that the hen Long's have improved over the years. They
make good tanks to use for modifications.

I hope that you enjoy the Marui Tank Group. We want to help you with
your tank. Check out the FAQ section of the database.

Thanks for joining and please let me know if you have problems with
your tank.

Sincerely,

John Bollig
President and Owner of Marui Tank Group









--- In Sci-Fi_Armor@yahoogroups.com, Grauwolf <grauwulf@y...> wrote:
> Greetings John,
>
> Okay, fair enough, I submitted to join your group.
>
> I would still like to see more about these tanks. Does Hen have
it's
> own website?
>
> How are the electronics on these guys? The reason I ask is just
that
> some time back I picked up a cheap MARS tank from some
manufacturer and
> the wiring job was certainly third rate. Very fragile stuff. No big
> deal because the whole reason I bought it was to see how they had
> worked out the multiple missile launcher system.
>
> I was hoping that these Hen Tanks might be built a bit tougher.
Able to
> take a bit of combat. That MARS unit (and I have seen where these
same
> folks sell tanks at Wal-Mart now too) sure wouldn't have lasted for
> more than a couple of minutes. After a bounce or bang or two she
would
> have been headed for my salvage yard. As they say, "Parts are
Parts".
> You can bet I will be using pieces here and there to build other
> machines.
>
> Cheap is GOOD and FUN!  I just like to have an idea of what I
might be
> able to expect from any manufacturer. Sometimes even the cheapest
> manufacturer can surprise you by producing a very good product for
your
> low budget buck. And Man, am I for that! --LOL
>
>
> Dan
>
>
> > Dan,
> >
> > Info on the Hen long tanks is as easy as joining my group.
> >
> > Http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MaruiTankGroup/
> >
> > These are the no name version of the 150 dollar Marui Tank. In
my
> > opinion however the marui is a better tank. Since you are on a
> > budget, a Hen long tank will suffire. These tanks are available
on
> > ebay under the radio control section of hobbies and toys.
> >
> > You should be able to buy one for under 40 dollars US
> >
> > John Bollig
> >
>
>
>
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#17 From: Grauwolf <grauwulf@...>
Date: Sun Dec 7, 2003 4:46 pm
Subject: Re: Re: R/C Armor on the cheap
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Greetings John,

Okay, fair enough, I submitted to join your group.

I would still like to see more about these tanks. Does Hen have it's
own website?

How are the electronics on these guys? The reason I ask is just that
some time back I picked up a cheap MARS tank from some manufacturer and
the wiring job was certainly third rate. Very fragile stuff. No big
deal because the whole reason I bought it was to see how they had
worked out the multiple missile launcher system.

I was hoping that these Hen Tanks might be built a bit tougher. Able to
take a bit of combat. That MARS unit (and I have seen where these same
folks sell tanks at Wal-Mart now too) sure wouldn't have lasted for
more than a couple of minutes. After a bounce or bang or two she would
have been headed for my salvage yard. As they say, "Parts are Parts".
You can bet I will be using pieces here and there to build other
machines.

Cheap is GOOD and FUN!  I just like to have an idea of what I might be
able to expect from any manufacturer. Sometimes even the cheapest
manufacturer can surprise you by producing a very good product for your
low budget buck. And Man, am I for that! --LOL


Dan


> Dan,
>
> Info on the Hen long tanks is as easy as joining my group.
>
> Http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MaruiTankGroup/
>
> These are the no name version of the 150 dollar Marui Tank. In my
> opinion however the marui is a better tank. Since you are on a
> budget, a Hen long tank will suffire. These tanks are available on
> ebay under the radio control section of hobbies and toys.
>
> You should be able to buy one for under 40 dollars US
>
> John Bollig
>



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#16 From: Grauwolf <grauwulf@...>
Date: Sun Dec 7, 2003 4:15 pm
Subject: Re: Questions:
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Greetings White Wolf and All,

Hey! I was going to ask that question! --LOL

Preferred Scale -- 1/20 (3 3/4 GI Joe stuff)
Size is easy to work with and parts are darn near everywhere.

Favorite Sci-Fi --
Video = Aliens, Starship Troopers, (and all of the off the wall Sci-Fi
stuff - MIB, Evolution, Wild, Wild West, Mars Attacks!, etc. --LOL)
TV = Space Above and Beyond, Babylon 5
Books = David Drake, Ian Douglas, HG Wells, Jules Verne, Michael
Moorcock, Harry Harrison, Douglas Adams


QUESTION --
If you could only pick just one ultimate dream armored RC combat
vehicle, irregardless of cost or available technology, to build? What
would it be???

My #1 Choice -- The Hammers Slammer's Tank complete with working
Tri-barrels. (One of these days!!!)

My Second Choice -- An Ironclad Land Ship (Sort of a, What If the Civil
War had dragged on for a couple of decades?, thing. I love that very
heavy metal with brass trimmings look! Think about it, a steam powered
tank! Wow! --LOL)



Regarding the 1/6 scale sandbags. -- You might want to check with these
guys at RCArmor. They like their stuff BIG!

http://www.rcarmorforum.org/cgi-win/TopicSearch.exe


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#15 From: "mmgun2001" <bolligj@...>
Date: Sun Dec 7, 2003 1:36 am
Subject: Re: R/C Armor on the cheap
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Dan,

Info on the Hen long tanks is as easy as joining my group.

Http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MaruiTankGroup/

These are the no name version of the 150 dollar Marui Tank. In my
opinion however the marui is a better tank. Since you are on a
budget, a Hen long tank will suffire. These tanks are available on
ebay under the radio control section of hobbies and toys.

You should be able to buy one for under 40 dollars US

John Bollig


--- In Sci-Fi_Armor@yahoogroups.com, Grauwolf <grauwulf@y...> wrote:
> Greetings John,
>
> Cheap is always good. Especially if you are like me and are
operating
> on the "No Budget Productions Plan." --LOL
>
> Can you dig up some Links and/or give me some ideas of where I can
find
> these tanks?
>
> Question -- What qualifies as "The Real World"???
>
> I have always found that "Reality" is in the mind of the beholder.
> --LOL
>
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> --- mmgun2001 <bolligj@h...> wrote:
> > Greetings from the real world,
> >
> > I have been looking at modifications of existing R/C armor  and
I
> > think that the 1/24 scale Hen long R/C tanks have the edge.
> > First,the Hen Long tanks are cheap. Second they are easy to
modify.
> > Third, they are easy to buy.
> >
> > What do you guys think ?
> >
> >
> > John Bollig
> >
> >
>
>
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#14 From: "grauwulf" <grauwulf@...>
Date: Sat Dec 6, 2003 5:04 pm
Subject: APC Wheels
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Greetings Hannes and All,

You mention having trouble locating wheels for your APC. Have you
given any thought to using skateboard or mountain board wheels? I was
caught by my wife the other day eyeballing the wheels used on our
granddaughter's stroller. Like I wouldn't wait till she outgrew it!
--LOL

http://users.rcn.com/gui/blem/longbdw.html

http://www.mountainboards.net/mountainboard_access
ories/mountainboard_tires.htm



Dan

#13 From: "WhiteWolf" <WhiteWolf_McBride@...>
Date: Sat Dec 6, 2003 4:53 pm
Subject: Questions:
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For everyone: What is:

Your preferred scale and why?
Your Fav Sci-Fi, regardless of whether you could
repro a vehicle from it or not.

And specifically to John:

Which tanks do ya use, and which are the most
capable yet cheapest? Ignore the electronics
aspect; just count tracks, suspension, & gearbox.

I ask as I've got a few ideas, but don't want
to snag one off eBay to find out it has no
suspension and a crappy gearbox. Ideally I'd
like one of the ones that can take a separate
link track upgrade set, working suspension, and
a respectable gearbox (even if it isn't Tamiya
DMD quality)

And what brand names or models to avoid?
(like MegaTech, etc.)

And one last note to 1/6 scalers:

I accidentially bought a load of 1/6 sandbags
instead of 1/18, if someone wants to take them
off my paws, please let me know? They are still
mint-in-bag with Ultimate Soldier points on the
bag-tag. I pack very well but economically.

WhiteWolf

#12 From: Grauwolf <grauwulf@...>
Date: Sat Dec 6, 2003 4:28 pm
Subject: Re: Re: My favourites in Sci-Fi Armor...
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Greetings WhiteWolf,

Yet another man after my own heart! Little surprise that, after all
insects were the first armored vehicles. Been trying to work out a six
legged walker for some time now. You are right, the turning is what
makes for the greatest challenge. Darn bugs make it look so easy. --LOL


Dan




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#11 From: Grauwolf <grauwulf@...>
Date: Sat Dec 6, 2003 4:17 pm
Subject: Re: R/C Armor on the cheap
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Greetings John,

Cheap is always good. Especially if you are like me and are operating
on the "No Budget Productions Plan." --LOL

Can you dig up some Links and/or give me some ideas of where I can find
these tanks?

Question -- What qualifies as "The Real World"???

I have always found that "Reality" is in the mind of the beholder.
--LOL


Dan



--- mmgun2001 <bolligj@...> wrote:
> Greetings from the real world,
>
> I have been looking at modifications of existing R/C armor  and I
> think that the 1/24 scale Hen long R/C tanks have the edge.
> First,the Hen Long tanks are cheap. Second they are easy to modify.
> Third, they are easy to buy.
>
> What do you guys think ?
>
>
> John Bollig
>
>



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#10 From: Grauwolf <grauwulf@...>
Date: Sat Dec 6, 2003 4:05 pm
Subject: Re: My favourites in Sci-Fi Armor...
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Greetings Hannes,

Yeah, you have got to love the simple clean lines and functionality
that went into the design of the Aliens APC. I think that vehicle is
the one that has done more to push me into craving Sci-Fi armor than
any other. The trouble that I kept running into was in designing a
functional weapons system that could work within their design. (The
forward gun and the retractable upper turret unit) Many sleepless
nights didn't help to resolve the problem. --LOL

Dan



--- j.dumhard@... wrote:
> Hi Dan,
>
> I started building the Aliens APC in 1/7th scale but in lack of
> wheels
> stopped the project in that scale. Next time I will go for 1/6th
> scale
> as I found rather suitable wheels for it in that scale. First of all
> I
> will carry on with my M113A1 - that will take long enough...
>
> Hannes
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#9 From: j.dumhard@...
Date: Wed Dec 3, 2003 8:22 am
Subject: Re: Re: My favourites in Sci-Fi Armor...
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Hi White Wolf,

the wheels would have to be 260mm in diameter for the 1/6th scale Aliens
APC - that size I have found, but suitable for 1/7th scale...no chance
(unless you are rich and have a set made). Also a good reason for 1/6th
scale are the Colonial Marines outfits by EVA Models (
http://members.aol.com/M56SG/uscm.html ) you can get to match the APC...

Hannes



WhiteWolf schrieb:

> --- In Sci-Fi_Armor@yahoogroups.com, j.dumhard@t... wrote:
> > Hi Dan,
> >
> > I started building the Aliens APC in 1/7th scale
> > but in lack of wheels stopped the project in that
> > scale. Next time I will go for 1/6th scale as I
> > found rather suitable wheels for it in that scale.
> > First of all I  will carry on with my M113A1 -
> > that will take long enough...
> >
> > Hannes
>
> Hannes, how big a diameter do the APC's tires need to
> be? Wouldn't the Tamiya Mammoth tires be about right?
> Or perhaps one of the Leimbach or Kyosho loaders?
>
> What I wanted to make was a 6x6 APC based on a Robbe
> Rodeo swamp craft, but a Rodeo is HARD. I've got the
> image of the armored vehicle saved, it was nice.
>
> I want to make a SHADO-Mobile on a Blizzard, and have
> a source for the Lost In Space 'Chariot' plans.
>
> Another alternate for the Blizzard is Keith Laumer's
> now-famous Bolo's, the Mark 3 aka 'Markie' (I'll get
> the name of the stories that featured that unit from
> my 'archives' later if anyone wants)
>
> My 8x8 Robbe 'Panther' may get an alternate body as a
> futuristic hauler, possibly with a launch-erector in
> the bed.
>
> I may use one of the 1/24 or 1/25 chassis for a chassis
> Which have suspension & optional link-track available?
> And is the stock drive train decent, even if we scrap
> the rest, or should we renovate with new 1/25 boxes?
>
> I need is an electronics whiz to design a simple
> setup for a railgun or plasma gun barrel. I'd want
> it to pulse a sequence down the barrel very quickly
> to a final flash at the end of the barrel.
>
> If done right, the same design could put the flash
> before the pulse sequence, simulating a recoil-less
> launcher of some design.
>
> My dream design though?
>
> I'd love to build a 6-leg walker-tank (like the Revell
> Robotech Defenders one from way back) Its getting the
> leg sequencing done that would bugger me, as the left
> and right legs would have to be synched differently.
>
> The right-side legs would have to move less on one side
> to create a gradual turn, but would have to reverse for
> an in-place turn (like a tank) That kinda modeling is
> ~robotics~ & computer programming, I'm the design type.
>
> Well, that & finances. When I win the lottery, I'll hire
> someone to make it for me.
>
> WhiteWolf
>
> PS: anyone interested in a Mad Max 'Pursuit Special'

#8 From: "WhiteWolf" <WhiteWolf_McBride@...>
Date: Wed Dec 3, 2003 5:20 am
Subject: Re: My favourites in Sci-Fi Armor...
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--- In Sci-Fi_Armor@yahoogroups.com, j.dumhard@t... wrote:
> Hi Dan,
>
> I started building the Aliens APC in 1/7th scale
> but in lack of wheels stopped the project in that
> scale. Next time I will go for 1/6th scale as I
> found rather suitable wheels for it in that scale.
> First of all I  will carry on with my M113A1 -
> that will take long enough...
>
> Hannes

Hannes, how big a diameter do the APC's tires need to
be? Wouldn't the Tamiya Mammoth tires be about right?
Or perhaps one of the Leimbach or Kyosho loaders?

What I wanted to make was a 6x6 APC based on a Robbe
Rodeo swamp craft, but a Rodeo is HARD. I've got the
image of the armored vehicle saved, it was nice.

I want to make a SHADO-Mobile on a Blizzard, and have
a source for the Lost In Space 'Chariot' plans.

Another alternate for the Blizzard is Keith Laumer's
now-famous Bolo's, the Mark 3 aka 'Markie' (I'll get
the name of the stories that featured that unit from
my 'archives' later if anyone wants)

My 8x8 Robbe 'Panther' may get an alternate body as a
futuristic hauler, possibly with a launch-erector in
the bed.

I may use one of the 1/24 or 1/25 chassis for a chassis
Which have suspension & optional link-track available?
And is the stock drive train decent, even if we scrap
the rest, or should we renovate with new 1/25 boxes?

I need is an electronics whiz to design a simple
setup for a railgun or plasma gun barrel. I'd want
it to pulse a sequence down the barrel very quickly
to a final flash at the end of the barrel.

If done right, the same design could put the flash
before the pulse sequence, simulating a recoil-less
launcher of some design.

My dream design though?

I'd love to build a 6-leg walker-tank (like the Revell
Robotech Defenders one from way back) Its getting the
leg sequencing done that would bugger me, as the left
and right legs would have to be synched differently.

The right-side legs would have to move less on one side
to create a gradual turn, but would have to reverse for
an in-place turn (like a tank) That kinda modeling is
~robotics~ & computer programming, I'm the design type.

Well, that & finances. When I win the lottery, I'll hire
someone to make it for me.

WhiteWolf

PS: anyone interested in a Mad Max 'Pursuit Special'

#7 From: j.dumhard@...
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 4:04 pm
Subject: Re: My favourites in Sci-Fi Armor...
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Hi Dan,

I started building the Aliens APC in 1/7th scale but in lack of wheels
stopped the project in that scale. Next time I will go for 1/6th scale
as I found rather suitable wheels for it in that scale. First of all I
will carry on with my M113A1 - that will take long enough...

Hannes

Grauwolf schrieb:

> Greetings Hannes,
>
>   Have you ever thought about constructing RC versions of any of these
> vehicles?
>
> Dan
>
>

#6 From: "mmgun2001" <bolligj@...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 1:17 am
Subject: R/C Armor on the cheap
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Greetings from the real world,

I have been looking at modifications of existing R/C armor  and I
think that the 1/24 scale Hen long R/C tanks have the edge.
First,the Hen Long tanks are cheap. Second they are easy to modify.
Third, they are easy to buy.

What do you guys think ?


John Bollig

#5 From: Grauwolf <grauwulf@...>
Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 11:57 pm
Subject: Re: My favourites in Sci-Fi Armor...
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Greetings Hannes,

   Have you ever thought about constructing RC versions of any of these
vehicles?

Dan



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> Hi there,
>
> nice to find someone also interested in sci-fi armor! My interest
> (besides modern Armor of the 20th and 21st Century) is more on stuff
> already "existing" in films, games and books. For example the Aliens
> APC, the "Mad Cat" from mechwarrior, ED-209 form Robocop or the AT-ST
> and AT-AT from Star Wars. It can have wheels, legs or tracks - I like
> them all.
>
> Also I am into future "realistic" armor like the FCS (future combat
> system) or other studies of armor which might be on the battle field
> in time to come. Here weapons like rockets, rail guns and laser are
> allready being "tested" but far from being actually used in lack of
> power supply - exept for the rockets which are very "successfull" all
> ready.
>
> Hope to find more people who are into this topic...
>
> Regards from Germany,
>
> Hannes
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#4 From: "hannibal160169" <j.dumhard@...>
Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 4:50 pm
Subject: My favourites in Sci-Fi Armor...
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Hi there,

nice to find someone also interested in sci-fi armor! My interest
(besides modern Armor of the 20th and 21st Century) is more on stuff
already "existing" in films, games and books. For example the Aliens
APC, the "Mad Cat" from mechwarrior, ED-209 form Robocop or the AT-ST
and AT-AT from Star Wars. It can have wheels, legs or tracks - I like
them all.

Also I am into future "realistic" armor like the FCS (future combat
system) or other studies of armor which might be on the battle field
in time to come. Here weapons like rockets, rail guns and laser are
allready being "tested" but far from being actually used in lack of
power supply - exept for the rockets which are very "successfull" all
ready.

Hope to find more people who are into this topic...

Regards from Germany,

Hannes

#1 From: "grauwulf" <grauwulf@...>
Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 2:07 am
Subject: What If....
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Greetings All,

WHAT IF.... Somewhere within the great expanse of the universe there
existed a junction point in time and space. As a source of amusement
and diversion a race of aliens has setup an arena type battlefield
where other citizens of the multiverse may wager apon the conflicts
held within. To fill the need for contestants these aliens rove
through space-time plucking hapless combatants from the heat of battle
and drop them into the arena.

In short, the only limits to your vehicle design would be your
imagination, skills of construction, and the confines of modern
technology.

If you can dream it... If you can build it... If you can control it
("Never create that which you can not control." famous last words of
Dr. Victor Von Frankenstein).... YOU CAN FIGHT IT!

A new doorway into the world of  RC Armor Combat has just opened. The
question you have to ask yourself is, "Are you tough enough to step
through?"

What are the limits of your imagination????


Dan

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