Black/White Tobiano, triple registered with: Spotted Saddle Horse; Spotted Mountain Horse; and as a Pinto Pony. Qualifies to also be reg. with the Racking Horse, and the American Gaited Pony Assoc., among others. HE DOES NOT TROT !! He is so laid back, easy going and super mellow as a stud colt, he would probably make someone a wonderful saddle gelding. He was shown at this year's Albany Gaited Horse Show where he caused quite a bit of interest. PHOTOS on his web page: http://www.wyantswintersprings.com/JustMySize.html He is not expected to mature over 13 hands.
we are thinking of getting a gaited pony for your almost 8 year old that has been ridding a mini for 4 years we live in south central montana was wondering id any one knew of anty one in montana ot wyoming who has gaited ponies
we are thinking of getting a gaited pony for your almost 8 year old that has
been ridding a mini for 4 years we live in south central montana was
wondering id any one knew of anty one in montana ot wyoming who has gaited
ponies
Forward from the PoniesForGrownies@yahoogroups.com egroup/list:
------------------------------ After a delay this year in the printing of The Paisley Pony magazine, we are at work on the upcoming issue!
If you would like to submit any advertising, Brags, photos, foal announcements or stories- we will need them by Tuesday.
This next issue will be the one distributed during The Pony Finals.
We also have begun in the last few issues to do special features on specific breeds of ponies. It can be a glossy or matte feature- depending on what your group is interested in doing. The minimum number of pages of advertising is 4 and included in the feature is at least one page of photos and one page of editorial- as well as inclusion on the cover by a pony of your breed (there is no charge for these extras- they are part of the feature). If you would like more information on this special advertising opportunity for your group- please let me know and I will be happy to answer your questions.
Please feel free to contact me with any questions you might have.
Note: If you are a subscriber to The Paisley Pony- please know that you will still receive the proper number of issues you have paid for. We apologize for this delay in our regular printing schedule.
Cindy
Cindy Taylor Publisher Phone - 732-684-4565 *NEW *Fax: 609-283-0214
UPDATED Web Site!! Banner advertising now available. The Paisley Pony - _www.thepaisleypony.com_ (http://www.thepaisleypony.com/)
Registered Tennessee walker mare for sale: SHe is 4 years old, has been started, but not ridden much. She does like to go,, but is a really smart horse and is not afraid of much. She is 13.3 hands tall. I have come down in price to 400.00. I also have a gaited appaloosa fewspot colt. He just turned two. He is a very sweet horse. He is only 13.3 also. But he is still growing. He is a beautiful boy. He is only 300.00. Like i said, I have come down in price because i have to move and can't take all my horses so I have had them for sale. I will have to take them to the sale if I can't sell them soon. I would love for them to go to homes that they will be used. If anyone is interested please contact me. Thanks, Becky beckybernardo@yahoo.com
Photos hubby took with his new camera of Little Joe (Just My Size) at the horse show this last weekend. Little Joe is now 2 yrs old 12.1+ hands, reg. PtHA; SSHBEA; and SMHA.
Obviously, hubby is not a great horse photographer, and these were the best of the lot........... The first one I edited because it was so dark I could barely see pony boy Joe at all !?!?!?
If you like the Paso Fino gaits you might be interested in this 13 hh
10 yrs gray mare with fabulous pedigree for breeding. Her fino gait is
lightning-quick and very smooth. She is not currently registered AGPR,
but is eligible per size and gait (as an AGPR inspector I can attest to
this). Very people-oriented and friendly. She is not being used much
and currently requires an intermediate rider. Very healthy and sound,
easy keeper. Gets along well with other horses in pasture. Owner is
being forced to move horses due to stable closing and is looking to
downsize. However, owner would consider trade for a beginner-safe Paso
Fino gelding that could be ridden on drill team. (This mare cannot be
used for drill team because she is fearful of riding in very close-
quarters with other horses). In Houston, TX.
Nina
2yr old, ASPC/PtHA, very sweet and gentle mare. Paces (have video).
Currently a pasture ornament but would make a great youth trail horse.
She doesn't fit my program so she needs to go. $500 email for
current pictures and video.
The American Farriers Journal published a series of four articles throughout 2008 on the issue of soring of Tennessee Walkers and other gaited horses. The series is now available on the AFJ Web site.
they're having a drive to increase horses (ponies?) in their registry,
and so they are having an 2008 "deal" with NO membership (fee) required
to reg. with them !!!!
--- In SaddlePony@yahoogroups.com, wwntrsprgs@... wrote:
>
> which doesn't say anywhere on their web site
> if there are specific height requirements............
>
> Pleasure Saddle Horse Registry
> _http://www.pshr.com/index.htm_ (http://www.pshr.com/index.htm)
>
>
I have several trotters, one pacer, and several that are somewhere in
between. Some breeds have common out crops of some type of lateral
gaits, Morgans, Standardbreds, etc. from what you describe, i don't
think you have a "pacer" but a fox trotter type gait more likely, they
seem to be doing one gait in front and another in the rear. If you
study the lateral gaited horses, you may come across an article that I
found very enlightening. Think of it this way, "hard" wired trotters,
if you tied the lateral legs together they would fall over, on one end
of a line....on the other extreme is the hard wired pacers, they CANNOT
trot, if you put caveletti down, they would trip over them. So,
everything in between on that line, some lean toward trot, but can
gait, some mostly gait but can trot, and some right in the middle. It
is possible to train to only trot at certain times. I trained a
morgan cross to only trot while in English tack. But, when I put
plantation saddle on her and put her on a trail or road she can do a
stepping pace that is fantastic.
marti
On Friday, August 22, 2008, at 04:57 PM, Carin Ponder wrote:
Thanks for replying Janis. Darn, so no quick fix? I'm half tempted to show her anyway and see how many judges pick up on the gait! Luckily, I have a farrier that is familiar with Standardbreds, TW, etc and she's coming out on Sunday. I've been fretting over this filly for several months now (she was originally sold on payments and then repo'ed with the discovery of the pacing) and she just laughs at me. I'll have to video her and put her on YouTube because she is quite interesting to watch. At times, it's almost like the front half is moving at a different speed/gait than the back half.
I'm glad to here it's not hereditary as I've been stalking her dam and her half brother every time I see them move out at the trot. I'd hate to sell the mare if I thought it was hereditary because she produces pretty babies! It's just strange that she didn't do this as a weanling as I have several pictures of her trotting.
Carin Ponder, RVT www.ponderingoaksstables.com
--- On Fri, 8/22/08, JDJones <jdjones@...> wrote:
From: JDJones <jdjones@...> Subject: Re: [SaddlePony] New member with questions To: SaddlePony@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 22, 2008, 3:47 PM
I am not a pony pro...I breed and race Standardbred pacers and also retrain my own horses for other use after they retire, something that follows a long tradition in my family. Gait is mainly a result of conformation. There are not genes that control gait. Gaited individuals and families occur in Arabians, Quarter Horses, Friesians, Andalusians, Thoroughbreds, miniature horses, drafts, probably every breed. People who breed gaited horses wish it were a simple genetic trait. :) It is not very predictable, and yes, there are non-gaited individuals born among gaited breeds, though most gaiteds beget gaiteds, and nons beget nons. That's about the best we can all hope for. :)
Most Standardbreds, whether they race as trotters or pacers, have one or more additional non-trotting intermediate gaits. Generally speaking, people who say they can force a gaited Standardbred to trot at racing speeds are using
methods I consider cruel. Most Standardbreds that race as pacers or are ridden and driven for pleasure do have a trot in them that can be brought up with conditioning.
The best approach, in my opinion, to developing a trot from a true pacing horse is to spend a lot of time with slow work over uneven ground and up and down hills. If she won't trot slowly, do this at a walk. Test her to find the trot, and work on that at the slower speed as you condition her, speeding it up when she can sustain the trot at slower speeds. You will also want to work with her farrier to have her shod to support balance at the trot. I always do a lot of ground driving through cones and/or barrels, and very short periods (no more than 15 minutes a day) with the longe, working on transitions and collection.
If you find she really won't trot but has a smooth riding gait, you may want to market her as a gaited pony. In
areas where Walking and Racking shows are popular, there are usually small children in need of nice gaited ponies for their own show classes.
It is possible to show a gaited horse in non-gaited competition. Many people who show Road Horses, which are all Standardbreds, prefer pacers, even though the horses may not pace in the class. I have trained and shown a pacer as Road Horse, and I had to be sure not to take turns too fast when she was first conditioning, else she would shift into a rack. I also have a pacing gelding that never gallops, with a top speed that is a very fast pace. At liberty, he racks at slower speeds. I have shown him in carriage driving after developing his very stylish trot. Both he and the roadster had three distinct speeds of trot as needed for those competitions. I like to say, if I could do this, anyone can. :D And they did not have to give up their "easy gaits" to do
this.
Janis ----- Original Message ----- From: "ponderingoaksstabl es" <ponderingoaksstable s@...> To: <SaddlePony@yahoogro ups.com> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 9:07 AM Subject: [SaddlePony] New member with questions
> Hello all, my name is Carin Ponder and I operate a small American > Shetland Pony farm and professional training barn in Iola, TX. The > reason I am here is I have a very nice shetland filly that in the last > year has started to pace (gait). While some might find it appealing, > unfortuantely, I don't. She is show quality otherwise but I can't show > her on the ASPC circuit if she paces. Can anyone provide suggestions > on how to make her stop? Can I make her stop? Is it hereditary? >
Neither her dam or sire, or any half siblings that I have owned, has > paced so I'm a little confused about why she does. > > Thank you in advance! > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > To register your Gaited Pony and/or support the American Gaited Pony > Registry go to http://www.gaitedpo ny.comYahoo! Groups Links > > > >
>>reason I am here is I have a very nice shetland filly that in the last
year has started to pace (gait). While some might find it appealing,
unfortuantely, I don't.
>>If your pony just started pacing, it may be a physical problem.
Yes, it might be a physical problem. You can try doing trotting poles, but
I'm not sure how well that would work with a young horse.
Judy
http://iceryder.nethttp://clickryder.com
When the horse goes into the pace, they hollow out their backs and elevate their heads. If your pony just started pacing, it may be a physical problem. If it is her desired gait, then you can work her over poles and cavallettis. Working like this makes it harder for the pony to pace.
If the pace is her true gait, she would be an assest to someone who is breeding gaited ponies. I had one pony who I raced as a pacer with his hopples on and then when we took them off, he was shown in pleasure driving classes at a trot.
Toni
--- On Fri, 8/22/08, ponderingoaksstables <ponderingoaksstables@...> wrote:
From: ponderingoaksstables <ponderingoaksstables@...> Subject: [SaddlePony] New member with questions To: SaddlePony@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 22, 2008, 8:07 AM
Hello all, my name is Carin Ponder and I operate a small American Shetland Pony farm and professional training barn in Iola, TX. The reason I am here is I have a very nice shetland filly that in the last year has started to pace (gait). While some might find it appealing, unfortuantely, I don't. She is show quality otherwise but I can't show her on the ASPC circuit if she paces. Can anyone provide suggestions on how to make her stop? Can I make her stop? Is it hereditary? Neither her dam or sire, or any half siblings that I have owned, has paced so I'm a little confused about why she does.
I am not a pony pro...I breed and race Standardbred pacers and also retrain
my own horses for other use after they retire, something that follows a long
tradition in my family. Gait is mainly a result of conformation. There are
not genes that control gait. Gaited individuals and families occur in
Arabians, Quarter Horses, Friesians, Andalusians, Thoroughbreds, miniature
horses, drafts, probably every breed. People who breed gaited horses wish
it were a simple genetic trait. :) It is not very predictable, and yes,
there are non-gaited individuals born among gaited breeds, though most
gaiteds beget gaiteds, and nons beget nons. That's about the best we can
all hope for. :)
Most Standardbreds, whether they race as trotters or pacers, have one or
more additional non-trotting intermediate gaits. Generally speaking, people
who say they can force a gaited Standardbred to trot at racing speeds are
using methods I consider cruel. Most Standardbreds that race as pacers or
are ridden and driven for pleasure do have a trot in them that can be
brought up with conditioning.
The best approach, in my opinion, to developing a trot from a true pacing
horse is to spend a lot of time with slow work over uneven ground and up and
down hills. If she won't trot slowly, do this at a walk. Test her to find
the trot, and work on that at the slower speed as you condition her,
speeding it up when she can sustain the trot at slower speeds. You will
also want to work with her farrier to have her shod to support balance at
the trot. I always do a lot of ground driving through cones and/or barrels,
and very short periods (no more than 15 minutes a day) with the longe,
working on transitions and collection.
If you find she really won't trot but has a smooth riding gait, you may want
to market her as a gaited pony. In areas where Walking and Racking shows
are popular, there are usually small children in need of nice gaited ponies
for their own show classes.
It is possible to show a gaited horse in non-gaited competition. Many
people who show Road Horses, which are all Standardbreds, prefer pacers,
even though the horses may not pace in the class. I have trained and shown
a pacer as Road Horse, and I had to be sure not to take turns too fast when
she was first conditioning, else she would shift into a rack. I also have a
pacing gelding that never gallops, with a top speed that is a very fast
pace. At liberty, he racks at slower speeds. I have shown him in carriage
driving after developing his very stylish trot. Both he and the roadster
had three distinct speeds of trot as needed for those competitions. I like
to say, if I could do this, anyone can. :D And they did not have to give up
their "easy gaits" to do this.
Janis
----- Original Message -----
From: "ponderingoaksstables" <ponderingoaksstables@...>
To: <SaddlePony@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 9:07 AM
Subject: [SaddlePony] New member with questions
> Hello all, my name is Carin Ponder and I operate a small American
> Shetland Pony farm and professional training barn in Iola, TX. The
> reason I am here is I have a very nice shetland filly that in the last
> year has started to pace (gait). While some might find it appealing,
> unfortuantely, I don't. She is show quality otherwise but I can't show
> her on the ASPC circuit if she paces. Can anyone provide suggestions
> on how to make her stop? Can I make her stop? Is it hereditary?
> Neither her dam or sire, or any half siblings that I have owned, has
> paced so I'm a little confused about why she does.
>
> Thank you in advance!
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> To register your Gaited Pony and/or support the American Gaited Pony
> Registry go to http://www.gaitedpony.comYahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
Hello all, my name is Carin Ponder and I operate a small American
Shetland Pony farm and professional training barn in Iola, TX. The
reason I am here is I have a very nice shetland filly that in the last
year has started to pace (gait). While some might find it appealing,
unfortuantely, I don't. She is show quality otherwise but I can't show
her on the ASPC circuit if she paces. Can anyone provide suggestions
on how to make her stop? Can I make her stop? Is it hereditary?
Neither her dam or sire, or any half siblings that I have owned, has
paced so I'm a little confused about why she does.
Thank you in advance!
I am going to be gelding my stallion this fall, giving me a couple of months to arrange freezing semen. After gelding, I will be looking to place him in a lease with a good junior rider.
Paisano stands 14 hands and packs fire and lovely baroque style into a small package. He passes along his engaging temperament and correct conformation. He is being brought along slowly under saddle, schooling Training Level dressage this year. Paisano has a nice jump and easily clears 3' free jumping. He has natural collection and plenty of suspension, consistently scoring 8's on his uphill canter departs in dressage schooling shows.
Paisano is also starting to show gait under saddle with a nice 4 beat diagonal. This could be developed in the future, but for now I am focusing on basic training. This does not effect his ability to TROT either.
Paisano can contribute style and flash to your breeding program, as he carries both Sabino-1 pinto and LP appaloosa patterns, as well as being homozygous black. He is also negative for lethal white overo (LWO). Bred by Emmett Brislawn of the Cayuse Ranch, Paisano is the product of over 70 years of selective breeding for the old Spanish type horse that helped build America. He is truly Yesterday's Horse for Today's Rider.
Some comments from the judges at the ASPR inspection:
"His front legs are substantial. His alignment is straight. His joints are dry. His pasterns are correct. And his hooves are absolutely fabulous. They are well shaped and of correct length, they are just picture perfect. When he travels, he is correct in front and behind and he has good rhythm. He has a good walk. He really steps well under himself. He has a good trot and a good canter. In his loose jumping, he does everything with ease. He is neat in front and behind, his approach is great. He is well balanced and very light footed. When he trots and canters, you cannot hear him. That is what we want. We want to see the movement. When the horse is in motion, the less you hear of the footfall, the better it is."
He traces back to both Mexican Joe and Chief Pushmataha, the two foundation sources of appaloosa color in the Spanish Mustang Registry. Other notable foundation horses in his lineage are Scarface through Tahoka, Narragansett though Jack Slade, Mexi Cali Rose, Buckshot, Red Ant, Cochise, Blue Corn, Ute, Queenie, Ka-Maw-I, San Domingo, Yellow Fox, Choctaw and Teton.
His foal from this year, AR Theory, can be seen on the owner's blog here:
Anyone interested in a share of straws, is welcome to put in funds, with whatever straws are collected split between the parties.
I can take him up to the clinic I've chosen, Oakhurst Thoroughbreds (http://www.oakhurstthoroughbreds.com/equine_rep.asp), about 2 hours north of us. I would stay for one collection, freeze and test thaw to see if we had viable semen. If it looked good, I could leave him for a week (or more depending on the money put in).
If the test thaw did not look good, I could just take Paisano home and we would only be out our share of that vet work. The balance would be returned to all parties.
I have one person in. Is anyone else interested?? I would need one or two more people to make it a go. Please contact me in the next couple of weeks or definitely email, if you have further questions.
Just getting things back in order after attending Equine Affaire in Columbus, Ohio. Low turn out but serious buyers. I have two pictures for you to see, the first being Doug Kane, author of a young adult adventure series of 4-H members journeying back in time to Iceland via the magical powers of their horses. In the first picture you can see Doug signing books for people. You can relearn more and review his book, Ariel's Journey on Amazon.com.
The second is a pictures of my colts & fillies recently moved to the stud farm. Had to because of the sad situation broodmare farm is currently in brought on by last years drought followed by non stop rain over the winter. It's a situation where I'll have to reseed forty acres and remove a lot of uprooted trees. Should make for a busy summer. Hopefully there
will still be some time for riding.