Disclaimer: I do not wish to start any kind of boat wars with this thread rather I am seeking objective information :) All things being equal (boat condition),...
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coppolar99
Feb 19, 2013 1:05 am
My son has sailed on Sultana, Lynx, Quinpiac, Pride, and more. Good reading is Tall Ships Down by Daniel Parrott. I've read Waldron's Pride of the Sea but my...
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Jules Bender
sundance362
Feb 19, 2013 1:18 am
I can't comment on Tartans other than to say they are pretty boats and are similar in appearance to a Sabre...I have owned a 362 for 14 years and still enjoy...
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jack horner
captbluwater
Feb 19, 2013 1:25 am
I have seen ,at the boat yard next to my boat slip , here in florida , a guy painted his mast himself by using Rustoleum top side marine paint ! I know...
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navip11
Feb 19, 2013 1:25 am
Jules, Thanks for your comment. What you mentioned is a very strong factor in our want for 362. I will be checking out the one that looks im good shape near...
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Jules Bender
sundance362
Feb 19, 2013 1:32 am
My boat is awl gripped Flag Blue, having gotten over "the pretty factor" it's easier to maintain a white boat.....Jules...
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navip11
Feb 19, 2013 1:36 am
Agreed on all counts. May i ask how often it needs to be painted?...
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Peter Tollini
petertr3
Feb 19, 2013 1:37 am
The Tartan sails differently than the Sabre. If you want to knock off big mile days with little fuss or effort, the S&S heritage works. If you like a...
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Jules Bender
sundance362
Feb 19, 2013 1:43 am
I had it done 12 years ago, still holding up....Jules...
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Jim Starkey
humblecoder
Feb 19, 2013 1:43 am
You'know, selling stuff below cost eventually gets tedious. By all means, buy stuff from the low bidders. The faster they go bankrupt, the faster we return to...
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navip11
Feb 19, 2013 1:46 am
Pete, I always appreciate your posts. I especially enjoyed your most recent comparison of a s30 to a spirited horse... Right on. I took a ride down to our...
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JOHN CALLIS
fs3873
Feb 19, 2013 2:00 am
The paint I used was Matterhorn white Interlux perfection. I remember my research leading me to believe that the Perfection would be just as durable, but would...
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Allison Lehman
allisonleh
Feb 19, 2013 2:30 am
I too own a 362 and love the boat. in my experience the Sabres are better built than the Tartans as well as nicer sailing. the Tartans have move volume...
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Allison Lehman
allisonleh
Feb 19, 2013 2:32 am
AJ are you talking about the Tartan 37 (S&S) or the Tartan 3700 (Tim Jacket)? I just presumed you meant the 3700. Allison...
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navip11
Feb 19, 2013 2:45 am
Alison, I am refering to the 372. http://features.boats.com/boat-content/2000/08/perry-design-review-tartan-372/...
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Allison Lehman
allisonleh
Feb 19, 2013 2:53 am
That boat is a Tim Jacket design and came with an upgrade option of Yanmar in lieu of the Volvo. Allison...
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Michael Grishman
twingrillero...
Feb 19, 2013 3:06 am
Your statement makes no sense. Both Hamilton and Defender have been around for a long time. I doubt that they are run as charities....
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john kalinowski
sabre32sailor
Feb 19, 2013 3:16 am
Have a  buddy with a T-30 that he really keeps up.He is looking to go larger.Went to both the Tartan and Sabre factories. His comments mirror yours...
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Dan Trainor
dptrainor1
Feb 19, 2013 5:26 am
Sustainable (for profit) businesses strive to make profit and serve their stakeholders well over the long term in the context of free market competition. As a...
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john kalinowski
sabre32sailor
Feb 19, 2013 1:06 pm
The business models are very different. Jamestown has a focus on builders.Used to be a time if you were looking for 1" s/s bolts that were 10" long and threads...
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Dave Lochner
ontariosailor52
Feb 19, 2013 2:24 pm
John's assessment of the four business models is pretty accurate. A visit to each of the bricks and mortar stores as well as their websites reinforces his...
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Jim Starkey
humblecoder
Feb 19, 2013 3:02 pm
When West started, boat stuff came from mom and pop boat stores with really high prices and very limited stock. West was fresh air with reasonable prices and...
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THOMAS JOHNSON
tomsp...
Feb 19, 2013 6:35 pm
On my "new" 1986 S34 - which surveyed to be in excellent condition - the surveyor indicated that the through hull valves for water intake and holding tank...
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Scott
targa387
Feb 19, 2013 7:06 pm
Start at the link below for Compass Marine. http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/tapered_cone_seacocks Sent from my iPhone...
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Thomas Johnson
tomsp...
Feb 19, 2013 7:17 pm
Perfect Sent from my iPhone...
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Peter Tollini
petertr3
Feb 19, 2013 8:48 pm
My familiarity with Volvo diesels is minimal. I know that Maine lobster boat builders love them and that owners of older Sabres can't kill them. Also that...
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David and Catherine A...
svsolitaire1
Feb 20, 2013 12:31 am
My two cents worth for what they are worth..... we were in a similar position before buying our S402... i.e. after 3 years of looking and dithering, we sold...
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sailor11767
Feb 20, 2013 1:25 am
Jim, SailBoatOwners.Com seems to be growing strongly APS keeps moving to larger digs Hamilton and Defender seem to be stable and viable None of these four...
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sailor11767
Feb 20, 2013 1:57 am
If well maintained, those valves will outlast the boat. If your boat is in the water, the instructions you were sent to will get you a lot of water inside!...
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pbfein
Feb 20, 2013 2:02 am
There is a big difference between the old Volvo MDs and the early 2000 series. Do plenty of research in this area....
