Hello, I'm starting to add more SP&S locomotives to my roster and need to know
what phase the GP9's where and what number boards are used for the RS-2's and
RS-3's, as well as the class lights. For the first FA1's, who makes the nose
number board.

Eric Torrence.

--- In SPSRY@yahoogroups.com, "spsoeot_rys" <spsoeot_rys@...> wrote:
>
> Hello, I'm starting to add more SP&S locomotives to my roster and need to know
what phase the GP9's where and what number boards are used for the RS-2's and
RS-3's, as well as the class lights. For the first FA1's, who makes the nose
number board.
>
> Eric Torrence.
>

I believe the GP's were Phase I, 'cause that would explain why I have a couple
of non-dynamic undecs in my closet.  It's been a long time since I worked this
one out, so my supporting evidence is unavailable.  I'll note, though, that the
GP9 was introduced in 1954, and the SP&S GP's were delivered in 1956, so it
kinda fits.


Ed

Actually, you don't need a detail part. LL P2K's 1st FA-1 release came with the
side-number board. The 1st FA-1 engines from Alco for the SP&S had the
side-number boards, AND were non-dynamic equipped. None of these engines made it
into the "Broad Stripe" scheme, as they were retired prior to the adoption of
the latest scheme. These engines are out there, might want to see if Ebay can
supply you with one. Later runs came with the angled number boards.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA
> --- In SPSRY@yahoogroups.com,
> "spsoeot_rys" <spsoeot_rys@...> wrote:
>
> >
>............. For
> the first FA1's, who makes the nose number board.
>

The SP&S diesels in color shows that the 850-855 have a nose number board. How
do I add that number board?

Eric Torrence.

--- In SPSRY@yahoogroups.com, Andy Carlson <midcentury@...> wrote:
>
> Actually, you don't need a detail part. LL P2K's 1st FA-1 release came with
the side-number board. The 1st FA-1 engines from Alco for the SP&S had the
side-number boards, AND were non-dynamic equipped. None of these engines made it
into the "Broad Stripe" scheme, as they were retired prior to the adoption of
the latest scheme. These engines are out there, might want to see if Ebay can
supply you with one. Later runs came with the angled number boards.
> -Andy Carlson
> Ojai CA

Paul Hobbs has recently completed his latest book:  "SP&S Locomotive
Diagrams".  The book includes diagrams of all of the SP&S's steam engines
and diesels as well as OE electric locos and is 80 pages long.  As with his
past diagram books, Paul has laboriously taken every original diagram and
digitally cleaned and restored it to "like new" condition.  The books are
available from his US distributor: Vintage Ads - North America.  All books
are spiral bound so that they layout flat during use.  Payment can be by
PayPal or check/money order.



Still available are Paul's previous books:



SP&S Locomotive Diagram Book  $24.95

SP&S Caboose Diagram Book      $24.95

SP&S Passenger Diagram Book  $29.95

SP&S Freight Car Diagram CD (paper book is out of print)  $15.00



Shipping for 1 to 5 items is $5.00 in the US.  (Non-US shipping will be
individually calculated at actual cost.)



Mail checks to:

Vintage Ads

8002 NE Hwy 99, Ste B

PMB 577

Vancouver WA 98665



Or email me at prints@... with your desire and I'll send you a
PayPal invoice.



Doug Auburg

SP&SHS member

Vintage Ads - North America owner



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--- In SPSRY@yahoogroups.com, "spsoeot_rys" <spsoeot_rys@...> wrote:
>
> The SP&S diesels in color shows that the 850-855 have a nose number board. How
do I add that number board?
>
> Eric Torrence.
>
I'd glue it on.  That out of the way, you're going to have to fabricate one--an
easy task, I think.  Page 1 of Schwenk's book has an excellent photo for the
purpose.  I think the trick will be coming up with the right decals (typeface
and size) for the numbers, though maybe they're lurking on a Microscale sheet
somewhere.


Ed

Edward Sutorik

If Brett Gibson is still in this group can you contact me off thread.  I have a
? about your cabeeses.
Thanks,
Chris Arnold

Eric,

Check out this message thread, 7198. Put that number in the "message" area and
you should find some helpful info. I have actually asked the same questions and
done lots of research and gathered lots of books and photos. Basically you'll
need a P2k GP9 PhII with "Torpedo tubes" Non-dynamic brake for the first 4 units
150 - 153 which were equipped with steam generators, initially used in passenger
service. For #154
and 155 you need P2k GP9 Ph II non-dynamic brake unit Proto #23764.
  A cheaper version would be to use Athearn or Front Range shells if you can find
them. I don't know if Rail power made any GP9's. George
Hardy had one for sale at the convention with the torpedo tube and it looked
great! Needless to say, It was sold rather quickly. If you'd like more info on
detail parts contact me off line. I have lots of info regarding the GP9's.
Chris Arnold

Guys & Gals,
   I just uploaded a few photos of the train ride from this years convention in
Bend.
Enjoy!
Chris Arnold

SP&S GP9 HO Scale Locomotives #s 151, 152, 153, & 155.  These are same as SP&S
#150 and #154 which were for sale at the SP&S convention in Bend May 2011.

See SP&S GP9 photos in Photos Section.

Models are Front Range Shells and chassis with smooth operating Kato Drives from
Stewart F units, programmed Digitrax decoder, directional lighting, Kadee
couplers, wire drop grab irons, brass horn and firecracker antenna and
all-weather windows.

Price per model is $150.00 plus shipping and insurance if requested.  Shipping
depends on destination and method requested.

For more information contact Don Thamer, don.nprz6@... or (916) 549-7195
or George Hardy, stacystreetnpvet@...

George Hardy

Achieve good erection after about some minutes!..
http://www.santoadriano.org/friends.links.php?fiCID=30c2

Ladies and gentlemen,

I noticed that a highly inappropriate post was made from my email account to the
list and I want to apologize for its content and assure everyone that I had
nothing to do with it getting here.  Apparently my AOL email account was hacked
and has been spewing out random spam to every contact in my distribution list. 
I will keep an eye on it and if it does not cease I will delete the account.

Thanks,

Chris

<<Ladies and gentlemen,

I noticed that a highly inappropriate post was made from my email account to
the list and I want to apologize for its content and assure everyone that I
had nothing to do with it getting here.  Apparently my AOL email account was
hacked and has been spewing out random spam to every contact in my
distribution list.  I will keep an eye on it and if it does not cease I will
delete the account.

Thanks,

Chris>>


A common event these days, Chris.

Buy each of us a beer and we'll call it even <GRIN>.

For the rest of us, this is a good reminder to make sure you use strong
passwords, and keep your virus and firewall software up to date. Y'all know
about all the other things you should and shouldn't be doing, so pay
attention to what's going on with your computer and your accounts.

Steve Haas
Snoqualmie, WA

Hi Folks
I am wondering what the "going price" of Paul Hobbs SPS Caboose book is these
days assuming one was available?
I could not find any listed on a variety of internet sites and realize it is out
of print but am wondering what the market price is.
Thanks for any answers.

Thanks
Dave Hickcox


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Hi,

   So I was snooping around and discovered a youtube recording
of a C-415 on the Burlington Junction Ry.  The loco is in
operation (ex-CN?) but only ever handles 1 or 2 cars.  So
has any one who was there and did that listened to this video
and can say ... "Yup, that's how they sounded." ... ?

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_hycPj-8uI

   The obvious followup question is "what sound decoder has
the best/closest representation of this 'beast'?  And then -
"I have one of the Overland HO models ... has anyone put
sound in one yet?".  (If yes, please contact me off list.)

   Thanks!
                                                         - Jim

An awesome video. The unit is ex SP, see the light packages. Interesting to
  note they wired the upper Gyralight to come on directionally in this
movement  anyway, clear one way red to the rear.

JB MCcallum


In a message dated 6/17/2011 4:08:20 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
jimbetz@... writes:




Hi,

So I was snooping around and discovered a youtube  recording
of a C-415 on the Burlington Junction Ry. The loco is  in
operation (ex-CN?) but only ever handles 1 or 2 cars. So
has any one  who was there and did that listened to this video
and can say ... "Yup,  that's how they sounded." ... ?

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_hycPj-8uI_
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_hycPj-8uI)

The  obvious followup question is "what sound decoder has
the best/closest  representation of this 'beast'? And then -
"I have one of the Overland HO  models ... has anyone put
sound in one yet?". (If yes, please contact me  off list.)

Thanks!
- Jim






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PS > Yes, that's exactly how they sound !

JBM


In a message dated 6/17/2011 4:08:20 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
jimbetz@... writes:




Hi,

So I was snooping around and discovered a youtube  recording
of a C-415 on the Burlington Junction Ry. The loco is  in
operation (ex-CN?) but only ever handles 1 or 2 cars. So
has any one  who was there and did that listened to this video
and can say ... "Yup,  that's how they sounded." ... ?

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_hycPj-8uI_
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_hycPj-8uI)

The  obvious followup question is "what sound decoder has
the best/closest  representation of this 'beast'? And then -
"I have one of the Overland HO  models ... has anyone put
sound in one yet?". (If yes, please contact me  off list.)

Thanks!
- Jim






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On 6/17/2011 6:56 AM, JBM875@... wrote:
> An awesome video. The unit is ex SP, see the light packages. Interesting to
> note they wired the upper Gyralight to come on directionally in this
> movement anyway, clear one way red to the rear.
>

I think that was one of the units that ran tourist trains on the Port of
Tillamook Bay (one of Bob Steele's ventures) and then it went briefly to
the Mt. Hood RR.

--
Jeff Shultz
http://www.shultzinfosystems.com

Classic Alco.





From: SPSRY@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SPSRY@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Betz
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 4:08 AM
To: SPSRY@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [SPSRY] C-415 Questions ...





Hi,

So I was snooping around and discovered a youtube recording
of a C-415 on the Burlington Junction Ry. The loco is in
operation (ex-CN?) but only ever handles 1 or 2 cars. So
has any one who was there and did that listened to this video
and can say ... "Yup, that's how they sounded." ... ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_hycPj-8uI

The obvious followup question is "what sound decoder has
the best/closest representation of this 'beast'? And then -
"I have one of the Overland HO models ... has anyone put
sound in one yet?". (If yes, please contact me off list.)

Thanks!
- Jim





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>
>   So I was snooping around and discovered a youtube recording
> of a C-415 on the Burlington Junction Ry.
>                                                         - Jim

Why not listen to the SP&S C-415s?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75chdSrWGwY

Troyce Brooks

I think the Pentrex "Those Incredible Alcos" series has two C415 working a rail
to barge coal transfer operation in WV and the C415 are ex SPS 100 and 101. 
I'll have to dig it out and see. Steve in Walla Walla

--- In SPSRY@yahoogroups.com, Jim Betz <jimbetz@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>   So I was snooping around and discovered a youtube recording
> of a C-415 on the Burlington Junction Ry.  The loco is in
> operation (ex-CN?) but only ever handles 1 or 2 cars.  So
> has any one who was there and did that listened to this video
> and can say ... "Yup, that's how they sounded." ... ?
>
>        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_hycPj-8uI
>
>   The obvious followup question is "what sound decoder has
> the best/closest representation of this 'beast'?  And then -
> "I have one of the Overland HO models ... has anyone put
> sound in one yet?".  (If yes, please contact me off list.)
>
>   Thanks!
>                                                         - Jim
>

Hi,

   OK, so that video is 'correct' for a C-415.  So I'll ask
again ...
           what sound decoder are you using for this?
                                                          - Jim

P.S. I've heard a goose decoder that sounded a lot like this one
      does - 'at idle/slow' ... but not 'at speed' (of course).

It is availble from a hobby shop or from a member.

EricTorrence


--- In SPSRY@yahoogroups.com, david hickcox <daveslists2000@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Folks
> I am wondering what the "going price" of Paul Hobbs SPS Caboose book is these
days assuming one was available?
> I could not find any listed on a variety of internet sites and realize it is
out of print but am wondering what the market price is.
> Thanks for any answers.
>
> Thanks
> Dave Hickcox
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I am asking what the long out of print book is selling for when it can be found.

thanks

Dave Hickcox


--- In SPSRY@yahoogroups.com, "spsoeot_rys" <spsoeot_rys@...> wrote:
>
> It is availble from a hobby shop or from a member.
>
> EricTorrence
>
>
> --- In SPSRY@yahoogroups.com, david hickcox <daveslists2000@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Folks
> > I am wondering what the "going price" of Paul Hobbs SPS Caboose book is
these days assuming one was available?
> > I could not find any listed on a variety of internet sites and realize it is
out of print but am wondering what the market price is.
> > Thanks for any answers.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Dave Hickcox
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

David, I was told about $24.00 and at Tammies Hobbies and other hobby shops.
Doug Auburg is the member who told me this info.

Eric Torrence.

--- In SPSRY@yahoogroups.com, "daveslists2000" <daveslists2000@...> wrote:
>
>
> I am asking what the long out of print book is selling for when it can be
found.
>
> thanks
>
> Dave Hickcox
>
>
> --- In SPSRY@yahoogroups.com, "spsoeot_rys" <spsoeot_rys@> wrote:
> >
> > It is availble from a hobby shop or from a member.
> >
> > EricTorrence
> >
> >
> > --- In SPSRY@yahoogroups.com, david hickcox <daveslists2000@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Folks
> > > I am wondering what the "going price" of Paul Hobbs SPS Caboose book is
these days assuming one was available?
> > > I could not find any listed on a variety of internet sites and realize it
is out of print but am wondering what the market price is.
> > > Thanks for any answers.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Dave Hickcox
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>

Hi Dave,

          I think what people are missing is that You are talking
about Paul's earlier hardback book
"Spokane, Portland and Seattle Ry. Cabooses, A History" published in
1996 by Great Northern
Pacific Publications.

          I don't have good current pricing information; I was lucky
to find one in 2006 for $40.00,
when any other copies I could find were going for $60.00 at the time.
I haven't really been looking,
but I haven't seen one come up for sale recently, I'm afraid.

          Good luck in Your search! It's a dandy book, of course. All
of Paul's works are.

Best Regards,
Mark Huffstutter






At 10:26 PM 6/15/2011, you wrote:
>Hi Folks
>I am wondering what the "going price" of Paul Hobbs SPS Caboose book
>is these days assuming one was available?
>I could not find any listed on a variety of internet sites and
>realize it is out of print but am wondering what the market price is.
>Thanks for any answers.
>
>Thanks
>Dave Hickcox
>
>
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>
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Thanks Mark, you are correct concerning what I was asking for and the responses
I was getting.  Thanks very much for the info and clarification.  I had one
response off-line and from that and your comments I would gather that $60 seems
to be what the market price would be now.  The reason I was asking was that I am
a part time dealer of railroad books, doing most of my business at flea
markets/shows in Ohio and Michigan, and found a few mint copies of that book
which got buried as the sales tapered off some years ago.

Thanks again for your response

Dave Hickcox
Delaware, Ohio (I did live along the SPS at one time in my life!)

--- In SPSRY@yahoogroups.com, Mark Huffstutter <mhuffstutter@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Dave,
>
>          I think what people are missing is that You are talking
> about Paul's earlier hardback book
> "Spokane, Portland and Seattle Ry. Cabooses, A History" published in
> 1996 by Great Northern
> Pacific Publications.
>
>          I don't have good current pricing information; I was lucky
> to find one in 2006 for $40.00,
> when any other copies I could find were going for $60.00 at the time.
> I haven't really been looking,
> but I haven't seen one come up for sale recently, I'm afraid.
>
>          Good luck in Your search! It's a dandy book, of course. All
> of Paul's works are.
>
> Best Regards,
> Mark Huffstutter
>
>
>
>
>
>
> At 10:26 PM 6/15/2011, you wrote:
> >Hi Folks
> >I am wondering what the "going price" of Paul Hobbs SPS Caboose book
> >is these days assuming one was available?
> >I could not find any listed on a variety of internet sites and
> >realize it is out of print but am wondering what the market price is.
> >Thanks for any answers.
> >
> >Thanks
> >Dave Hickcox
> >
> >
> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------------
> >
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>

Does anyone have a formula for this shade as shown on gondolas, etc.?

Thanks
Rich Christie

Hey guys, I have one too many cabooses.  Help me out and take this off my hands.

The end of the Overland box says: GN 30' wood caboose, #X198, X200-X228,
X230-X249 w/swing motion trucks, unpainted.  OMI 3954.

What that means to us SP&S guys is that it is an SP&S #850-855.
There are a couple of great photos of these in Austin's freight car book.

The model is in mint condition, no tarnish and only been out of it's box a
couple of times.  It is the latest run of this caboose,and a very nice model. 
It has see-thru steps and full brake rigging.  I think it was imported in Oct.
1997.

I'm asking $175.00 shipping included.  Please contact me off-list if interested.
If I still have it on Saturday I'm going to give the GN and BN guys a shot at
it.

Thanks, Tom Bacarella

This Saturday I be listing two Atlas RS-1's on ebay. Here is my ebay id:
sps-oe-ot_rys.

Eric Torrence.