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Reading: From the Gospel according to St. Matthew 16: 13-23.



Dear and Respected Brethren,



Koodos Etho is the first day of the worship Calendar of a year. As everyone

knows, it is the day for the sanctification of the Holy Church. Our surprise

will increase more and more when we would think how wisely and meaningfully our

Church Fathers have arranged the Church Calendar. As God Almighty is holy

without a drop of dirt or filth, God desires that all the faithful who are set

apart for the abide ness in God are to be made free from all sorts of drawbacks

so that they could stay in the holiness and divine cleanliness. Our Church

Fathers have separated a day for the sanctification of the entire members of the

Church by considering this desire of God. We all are obliged to realize that it

is our responsibility to co-operate with the Holy Church in sanctification

process. The sanctification of the Holy Church means the sanctification of all

her members together. The Church cannot persuade a member by force, advice or by

inspiration for the transformation of the mind of an individual. The Church

could provide all possible helps for the individuals or group of members for the

necessary arrangement of the possibilities of sanctification. The real desire

and instigation for the sanctification must originate from the individuals.



When our Lord reached Caesarea with the blessed Apostles, our Lord asked the

disciples: “Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?” All of them gave the

answers as they had heard from the people. We read about the same question and

similar answers in St. Mark 8:27 and St. Luke 9:18. Kindly read Daniel and 7:13

and see the comparison of the Son of Man. After listening the answers based on

the opinion of others, our Lord asked “But whom you say that I am”. When all

were surprised, St. Peter came forward and said his answer bravely, “You are the

Christ, the Son of the living God”. Immediately our Lord said “my Father who is

heaven has revealed this great truth to you”. (Verse 17) As God Almighty

selected St. Peter to confess this great truth and faith, St. Peter is honored

by the Church from that moment and grants primacy to him. The blessing of God is

the greatness of St. Peter. One Church which remains still on the shores of

Galilee Sea is named “Primacy of St. Peter”.



We must note our Lord’s phrase “my Father who is in heaven”. Our Lord uses the

term “Son of Man” about himself all along the gospels and uses “My Father in

Heaven” emphatically. We all will have to take this verse as a reply to the ones

who might question our Lord’s Godliness and the theory of the Holy Trinity

namely the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit. In 1 Corinthians 2:10 St. Paul tells

us “God has revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searches all

things, yea, the deep things of God”. St. Paul, who had no direct contact with

Lord Jesus when our Lord was on earth, explains Galatians 1:16-17, how he got

great information and wisdom about Lord Jesus. We read, “To reveal his son to

me, that I might preach him among the heathen: immediately I conferred not with

flesh and blood, Neither I went to Jerusalem to them which were Apostles, before

me, but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus”. This is the

reason for granting importance and reverence to St. Paul in the Church. St. Paul

is honored as the leader of Apostles along with St. Peter. St. Paul was also

blessed by God Almighty to learn the greatness of God and His begotten Son. That

is the uniqueness of the greatness of St. Peter and St. Paul. Both of them were

blessed in the similar way. So the Holy Church grants reverence and honor to

them both.



Today our Lord is asking you and me, ‘who I am for you.’ What answer we could

give spontaneously? Kindly think and find out the answer. As our blessed father

St. Thomas retorted, could we confess “Lord you are our God and Lord.” Let us

pray earnestly for a rare blessing to utter in high voice that Lord Jesus is our

Lord and God. Let us prepare ourselves to call Him our Lord and God, by looking

at His blessed face, watching through our spiritual eyes.



May God bless us all.

Jose Kurian Puliyeril.

Dear Brothers and Sister in Christ,



I would like to express my humble feelings about some of the recent photos I saw

in SOCM & SOCMNet. I am rather delighted to see Bishops from Malankara visit

Ethnic Syrian and Middle Eastern congregations. One of the often used slogans of

the certain MOSC fanatics is that Ethnic Middle Easterners took down upon

Bishops and Priests from Malankara. As to incite that they believe their (Ethnic

Syrian) ordination is superior to Malankara Clergies ordination. Many times they

spread stories about how the Catholicos is an unknown ambiguous position, given

to Malankara as some sort of Syriac Charity. Yet, take one look at the multiple

sites that have Bishops from Malankara visiting Damascus, Europe, etc. Their

faces express the truth. They look at Malankara Bishops as equal Spiritual

Fathers. I was moved when I was looking at photos from the Holy Patriarch's

Enthronement Jubilee Celebration in Damascus, When the Blessed Catholicos came

there. The love and respect the Holy Fathers showed each other. The utmost

respect the people showered upon the Blessed Catholicos and the Bishops from

Malankara will easily expose the truth behind such MOSC propaganda. The recent

photos from the Memorial of the Syrian Bishop that Passed away, where the

Blessed Catholicos was the Chief Celebrant. The people showed great respect and

love towards the Blessed Catholicos. It did not seem that the Catholicos was an

unknown dignitary. These events are true works of a Universal Church. I believe

this is the way Christ pictured the Holy Church, where nationality is not

important, but rather as members of Christ's Body. I firmly hope people will

begin to realize that the solution to lasting Peace in India is through HH

Patriarch.



Your servant in Christ,

Robin J. Mani

2364

I agree..but what saddens me is that it was many of these syriac/assyrian groups

who were firmly behind Mr. Bush to invade Iraq. Now Iraq has been invaded and

what is the fate of the christians there? It is worser than under Saddam.



Where are these assyrian groups now? Why don't they go to Mr. Bush and ask him

to help. He will not help them as they were only pawns in a great game.



Anyway, the past is past. What can be done is to drum up support from

legislators in the US, parts of Europe and India wherever populations of syrian

christians is high and force them to represent to the Iraqi govt. that the

safety of Iraqi minority groups is of paramount importance.



That's about all that can be done now. And about a 'free  zone' fro christians

in Iraq, forget it! The whole muslim world will rise in a jehad against the west

then. America with it's current problems will not even dream of it.



The best possible solution...Lebanon is the last refuge of our community in the

Middle East. Why doesn't the church encourage Iraqi christians to emigrate to

Lebanon(and not only to Syria, as being done now). This will help shore up our

number in Lebanon and the muslims will have no any problems about it too as it

is an intra-arab migration after all similar, to the palestinian muslim influx

into beirut after they were kicked out of Jordan by Hussein.



The assyrian christians should think logically and not live in a fools world.

Iraq is forever lost to us. Let us salvage whatever little we have.



-Nidhin Olikara,

Shimoga, India

# 3264

Shomo Amokh,



I am the one who wrote once regarding our congregation in Baroda. I

do not agree to your first paragraph, but certainly agree to the

fact that our church heads are not really concerned about the growth

of the church everywhere and are confined to certain geographical

areas only. This is not the case with IOC. Their bishops and clergy

are dedicated to keep the flocks together. They have the budget to

build institutes and churches where ever they want but our poor

people cannot afford the cost their own. We must request our Holy

Synod to fix the budget and plan for the churches and establishments

wherever our people live.



In his love



Johnson #2335



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> Dear All,

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> I am more or less happy to note that atleast Jobin and Aniyankunju

> openly admitted that they are going to Indian Orthodox Church in

> Singapore.  This is what IOC always want to happen everywhere

> outside Kerala!!! They will try every means to stop our members

> forming their own church, and will try to explain that both are

> same!!!! This we had seen in many of their postings in all forums.

> But in disguise they want our church to be destroyed and our

innocent

> (??)members will submit to their passionate words!!!!

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Dear Moderators,



We all at St.Mary's JSC Baroda wish a Happy anniversary to all of you and are

thankful to the services being rendered by the Forum.



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The tradition of St. Thomas Christians that the Apostle St. Thomas

established the Church in India has been questioned. Every St. Thomas Christian

should pray for the Pope, that God give him good sense.



God St. Thomas the Apostle of India or of Pakistan?



Author: Fr George Nedungatt S.J



“Thomas first evangelized Syria and Persia and then penetrated as far as western

India from where Christianity reached also south India” – Said Pope Benedict XVI



Pope Benedict XVI has recently spoken of the Apostle Thomas during a series of

Wednesday catechesis on the twelve apostles of Jesus Christ. He had started the

series with St. Peter on 7 June 2006. He spoke of St. Thomas the Apostle on

Wednesday 27 September, seemingly taking away from him the traditional title

Apostle of India. Though the pope did not actually use the expression “Apostle

of Pakistan,” what he said may seem to imply it. This matter must surely be of

interest to Christians in India, especially the Thomaschristians who

traditionally venerate St. Thomas as their father in faith.



1. Pope Benedict on St Thomas the Apostle



Pope Benedict may seem to distance himself from his predecessors, especially

Pope John Paul II, who on several occasions has referred to St. Thomas as the

Apostle of India. According to Pope Benedict XVI, however, the area St. Thomas

evangelized was not south India, but what he called “western India,”

corresponding roughly to Pakistan today. Addressing a vast crowd gathered in St.

Peter’s square, the pope first sketched the New Testament figure of Thomas as

the daring disciple, ready to go and die with the Master and made the explicit

profession of faith in the risen Christ as Lord and God. And then the pope went

on to add:



In his name were then written the Acts and the Gospel of Thomas, both apocryphal

but still important for the study of Christian origins. Let us recall finally

that, according to an ancient tradition, Thomas first evangelized Syria and

Persia (thus states already Origen, as cited by Eusebius of Caesarea, Hist.

Eccl. 3, 1) and then penetrated as far as western India (cf. Acts of Thomas 12

and 17ss), from where Christianity reached also south India. (1)



For a clearer understanding of this catechetical teaching of the pope, it may be

helpful to articulate the following five points he made.



1) Pope Benedict recognizes that the Acts of Thomas (ATh), though an

apocryphal work, is “important for the study of Christian origins.”



2) The pope cites the ATh in support of his statement that the Apostle Thomas

evangelized “western India.”



3) By “western India” what is meant is northwestern India of former times, or

IndoParthia, the realm of King Gundaphar of the first century A.D.



4) The pope clearly distinguishes between the evangelization of “western India”

and that of south India: whereas the Apostle Thomas himself brought the gospel

to western India, he did not “penetrate” beyond to south India or Malabar.



5) Finally, it was from western India that “Christianity reached also south

India.”



Thus, according to Pope Benedict, while northwestern India was evangelized by

St. Thomas, south India was not evangelized by him. He does not specify who

first preached the gospel in south India: whether some disciple or disciples of

the Apostle himself or others in the postapostolic age or later. As the pope

sees it, south India was not evangelized by St. Thomas but by Christians coming

from northwestern India, seemingly at a later period. The Thomas christians of

south India, both Catholic and others, are not likely to be thankful for this

papal statement. This is a clear departure from the pronouncements of his

predecessors.



2. Former Popes on St. Thomas as the Apostle of India Several popes have

asserted the origin of south Indian Christianity from the Apostle Thomas. For

example, Pope Paul V in 1606 erected the diocese of San Thome of Mylapore

“because there lay buried the body of St. Thomas.”



Establishing the hierarchy of the Latin Church in India in 1886, Pope Leo XIII

referred to India as having first received the light of the gospel from the

Apostle Thomas. On the occasion of the centenary celebrations in honour of St.

Thomas the Apostle and of St. Francis Xavier, Pope Pius XII declared in his

radio message on 31 December 1952 as follows:



Nineteen hundred years have passed since the Apostle [Thomas] came to India and

in word and deed and utter selfsacrifice bore witness to Christ in your land. …

The Christian community formed by the Apostle conserved intact the legacy he

left them…. This Apostolic lineage, beloved sons and daughters, is the proud

privilege of many among you who glory in the name of Thomas Christians, and We

are happy on this occasion to acknowledge and bear witness to it. (2)



In 1986, during his apostolic visit to India, Pope John Paul II made it a point

to visit the Mylapore tomb and in a brief discourse, in which he cited the words

of the Apostle Thomas to his companions, “Let us also go and die with him” (Jn

11: 16), the globetrotting pope said:



According to tradition, at this very place, which is now called Saint Thomas

Mount, the great Apostle of India fulfilled his own exhortation. Out of love for

Jesus, here in Madras, Saint Thomas died for Christ. He gave his life as a

martyr for the sake of Christ and the gospel.(3)



Again, in his discourse to the bishops of the SyroMalabar Church and the

SyroMalankara Church on 25 August 1990, on the occasion of their ad limina

visit, Pope John Paul II said: “Truly it may be said that, through you, your

father in the faith, Thomas, meets Peter and exchanges with him the ‘holy kiss’

(2 Cor 13: 12), so as to be comforted and confirmed in the service of the

gospel.” (4) In the same year, raising the SyroMalabar Church as a Major

Archiepiscopal Church, he wrote that this Church “as the constant tradition 

holds, owed its origin to the preaching of the Apostle St. Thomas.” (5) And

later in his apostolic exhortation Ecclesia in Asia, published on 6 November

1999 from New Delhi, Pope John Paul II spoke in particular of Churches founded

in south India by the Apostle Thomas.



From Jerusalem the Church spread to Antioch, to Rome, and beyond. It reached

Ethiopia in the south, Scythia in the north, and India in the east, where

tradition has it that Saint Thomas the Apostle went in the year 52 A.D. and 

founded Churches in South India.(6) Finally, and beyond statements of primarily

local interest, Pope John Paul II wrote in his apostolic letter Tertio millennio

adveniente, addressed to the whole Church in view of the Great Jubilee Year

2000, as follows:



As far as Asia is concerned, the Jubilee will remind us of the Apostle Thomas,

who, according to tradition, brought the proclamation of the gospel at the very

beginning of the Christian era to India.(7)



After all these clear statements of his predecessors about St. Thomas being the

Apostle of India, the recent pronouncement of Benedict XVI may sound like

striking a dissonant note. It may be ungainly to pit one pope against another,

but his position needs to be understood properly.



3. Understanding Pope Benedict XVI



Pope Benedict seems to have stepped on unfamiliar ground. First of all, for his

statement that “Thomas first evangelized Syria and Persia” let us look at the

authority of Origen whom he cites. Actually Origen does not mention either Syria

or Persia but Parthia.



The holy Apostles and disciples of our Saviour were dispersed throughout the

inhabited world. For, as tradition has it, Thomas got Parthia by lot, Andrew

Scythia, and John Asia, who stayed on for some time in Ephesus and died there.

As for Peter, he preached in Pontus, Galatia, Bithynia ….(…was crucified in

Rome, where Paul also was martyred under Nero). This is what is related word for

word in the third volume of Origen’s exegetical Commentary on Genesis.”(8)



Origen’s work on Genesis has not survived. Instead, what we have is a citation

of Origen by the church historian Eusebius of Caesarea. Origen himself is citing

a tradition that the Apostle Thomas got Parthia by lot.



Pope Benedict makes out from this that the Apostle evangelized “Syria and

Persia.” This is not quite exact. The Parthian Empire included modern Iran and

Iraq (ancient “Persia”) but not Syria. Moreover, what Origen says about Parthia

is the same as what the ATh narrates about the Apostle Thomas converting the

King Gundaphar of India, that is, of IndoParthia or northwestern India. Hence it

is a doubleton to state “and then penetrated as far as western India” and cite

as source “Acts of Thomas 12 and 17ss.”



Finally, the Pope makes no attempt to cite any authority for his final statement

that it was from northwest India that Christianity reached south India. This is

quite surprising, since he was so careful to cite sources in support of his

previous statements about the evangelization of “Persia” and “west India.” As a

matter of fact there is no known, extant, ancient text or tradition that

explicitly or implicitly supports the evangelization of south India by

Christians coming from northwest India. Certain savants who deny

the evangelization of India by the Apostle Thomas have put forward the theory

that it was missionaries coming from the Edessan Church or the Persian Church

that first preached the gospel in India. But the evangelization of south India

by north Indian Christianity is a new theory.



Here, Pope Benedict not only ignores the Indian tradition about the

evangelization of south India by the Apostle Thomas, and sets aside the clear

and repeated statements of his predecessors supporting this tradition.



In short, he denies the apostolic origin of the churches of the Thomaschristians

by excluding the Apostle Thomas from the evangelization of south India.



From a methodological standpoint, it is odd that on the one hand Pope Benedict

attributes much historical value to the apocryphal Acts of Thomas, while on the

other hand he ignores that the same work also probably hints at the

evangelization of south India by the Apostle Thomas: the Apostle leaves the

realm of Gundaphar in India to go to another realm. Benedict seems to be

aligning himself with the majority of the German savants as well as other

western scholars today, who do not think that the Apostle Thomas evangelized

India. That is a larger issue, which will be addressed in a forthcoming book of

mine, of which this article is an extract.



4. Conclusion



According to Church magisterium at least since Galileo, papal teaching is said

to be authoritative in matters of faith and morals, but not outside it in the

areas of science, astronomy or history unrelated to the core mission of the

Church. This mission is to proclaim the good news and to teach all nations

whatever Jesus has commanded. This mission is realized and expressed in the

pastoral charge of the bishops and in a unique manner in the authority of the

popes. Popes can be and have been also theologians, canonists, historians, etc.



For example, a predecessor and namesake of the present Pope, namely Benedict

XIV, was a great canonist, Prospero Lambertini, who wrote the monumental work De

Servorum Dei Beatificatione et Canonizatione published after he was elected

Pope. Pope Benedict XIV’s authority as canonist in the area of the beatification

and canonization of the Servants of God is of the highest order, comparable to

that of St. Thomas Aquinas in western theology. That is, not his authority as

Pope but as canonist.



Pope Benedict XVI has the reputation of being a great theologian, but this is

not the same as competence in church history. The Catholic faithful should

distinguish the authority value of papal pronouncements or of Vatican documents

that are pastoral or administrative in nature but not magisterial.



The negative stand of Pope Benedict XVI does not erode the merit of the Indian

tradition about St. Thomas as the Apostle of India, including south India.

Indeed, according to this tradition, St. Thomas is the Apostle of India in as

much as he evangelized south India. According to Pope Benedict, it was “western

India” that the Apostle evangelized, today Pakistan.



In support of the apostolic origins of Christianity in India certain Indian

writers cite the statements of politicians like the Presidents of the Republic

of India, whether Dr. Rajendra Prasad or Sankar Dayal Sharma, made on the

occasion of some particular Christian celebrations. For example, President

Rajendra Prasad stated: “St. Thomas came to India, when many of  the countries

of Europe had not yet become Christian…. And it is a matter of pride to us that

it so happened.” India has also issued a postal stamp of the Apostle Thomas,

thus claiming him as her own.



When the authority of Popes is invoked in favour of the Indian apostolate of St.

Thomas, it is important to be clear about its precise value. We may mention here

a precedent. With his bull Deus Omnipotens (1884) Pope Leo XIII confirmed the

apostolic origin of Santiago da Campostella in Spain and exhorted the faithful

to resume the tradition of pilgrimage to the holy tomb of the Apostle James. But

this papal bull has not served to swing scholarly opinion, which is against the

apostolic credentials of Santiago da Campostella.



Pontifical or presidential pronouncements or postal initiatives can have some

pastoral or political value; but they do not necessarily contribute to the

historical argument. When a papal statement is cited in favour of the Indian

apostolate of St. Thomas, it is not to be given undue value, as if it were

historical evidence, certainly not as if it were a dogmatic definition.



The same applies also to a papal statement in favour of the opposite thesis.



In this light may be read the latest papal pronouncement on St. Thomas the

Apostle.



(Endnotes)

(1) Pope Benedict VI, “Tommaso,” L’Osservatore Romano, 28 September 2006, p. 4.



(2) Pius XII, “Nuntius Radiophonicus,”Acta Apostolicae Sedis 45 (1953) 9699, at

9697.



(3) Insegnamenti di Giovanni Paolo II, vol. IX, 1, Vatican city, 1986, p. 325.



(4) L’Osservatore Romano, 26 August 1990; AAS 83 (1991) 198.



(5) John Paul II, apostolic constitution Quae maiori, dated 16 December 1990,

AAS 85 (1993) 398399.



(6) John Paul II, apostolic exhortation Ecclesia in Asia, n. 9, AAS 92 (2000)

460.



(7) John Paul II, apostolic letter Tertio millennio adveniente, § 25 (10

November 1994): AAS 87 (1995) 21.



(8) Origen, In Genesim 3 (PG 12, 92). In Genesim 3 (PG 12, 92), cited by

Eusebius, HE III, 1 (PL 20, 213216). See note 196 above.



(9) Fernando López Alsina, “Santiago da Compostella,” LTK, 3rd ed., IX,

Freiburg: Herder, 2000, col. 6164, at col. 64.



The tradition of St.Thomas Christians of Kerala that the Apostle came to Malabar

Coast is questioned.



But on what authority

======================================================

Posted by:

Thomas Jacob

"For though some would nave deceived me according to the flesh, yet the Spirit,

as being from God, is not deceived. For it knows both whence it comes and

whither it goes, and detects the secrets [of the heart]. For, when I was among

you, I cried, I spoke with a loud voice: Give heed to the bishop, and to the

presbytery and deacons. Now, some suspected me of having spoken thus, as knowing

beforehand the division caused by some among you. But He is my witness, for

whose sake I am in bonds, that I got no intelligence from any man. But the

Spirit proclaimed these words: Do nothing without the bishop; keep your bodies

as the temples of God; love unity; avoid divisions; be the followers of Jesus

Christ, even as He is of His Father."



St. Ignatius of Antioch.



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"Be a father to orphans, and be like a husband to their mother; you will then be

like a son of the Most High, and he will love you more than does your mother." 

Sirach 4:10

Dear Friends,



We trust, you have already received  our message  informing  you about the

Silver Jubilee Celebrations of our Thirumeni's  (Mor Severios Abraham)

Bishophood, proposed to be held in February/March 07.



We are in the process of compiling a brief  biography  of Thirumeni  to be

incorporated in a souvenir being  published as part of the celebrations. We

request  you to kindly  send us your experience, memoirs, any other suitable

information, which can be incorporated in this biography. You may send useful

photographs also (which shall be returned).



Your immediate response shall be highly appreciated as the matter should go to

the printers by December 10, 2006.



Thanking  you,



Yours in Christ.



Fr.Wilson

=====================================================

Contact Address

http://www.syrianchurch.org/bio/MalankaraPrelates/bio_SevAbraham.htm

Mar Gabriel Prayer Tower

Vengola P.O, Perumbavoor

Kerala, India

Phone: + 91-484-2525937

Email: bethsada@...

All in Christ



Ordination photos of PHINEHAS RAMBAN (Joseph Sir of Malecuriz Dayro) is uploaded

in SOCMNet.org photo section.



URL: http://www.socmnet.org/Resource_PhotoAlbum_DnJoseph.htm



In HIS Love

Thomas Daniel (Reji)

# 0001

http://socmnet.org

The November 2006 edition of "Shroro " is now online



Dear friends and brethren,



The November 2006 edition of "Shroro - The Syriac Orthodox Christian

digest" http://www.socdigest.org is now online.



Your dedication to the faith has given birth to Shroro, and your love

and interest has made the tremendous growth in this magazine leading

to its immediate success.



We ask that you pray for us, so that we may better serve our

community's interests in coming years.



Shroro Editorial Board

http://www.socdigest.org

Dear brother in Christ,



What you said is very correct. The church should allot funds and plan for

building churches and institutions out side Kerala where ever our faithful

people leave. The dedication and restless services offered by the clergy and

bishops of other communities are so commendable where as the commitment to the

community is not much seen in our people. This is because our people

particularly the young generation are not made to understand the history,

orthodoxy and holy sacrements of our church. As we see the present turmoil in

Northern Dioceses are created by the priests and few bishops who do not have any

commitment to the church and community. When our people will go and attend the

services at another church can you find a person  from another community

attending the services in our church ? No. because they love to be the members

of their community only.



With my little knowledge I can tell you that we have a students organisation

SOCSMI but do not know how many units of it are functioning.



Let us hope for the best and pray for the well being of our church.



In his love



Johnson Mannathoor

#2335



--- In SOCM-FORUM@yahoogroups.com, Sarun Mani wrote:

>

> Barekmor/Shlomo..

>

> By the grace of God our church is on its way to progress. As a

wise navigator,our Catholicose HB Dr.Basalius Thomas I bava is

leading us.

>

> But the case of our church outside kerala is different.

>

> I am an engineering student from Davangere Dt,Karnataka. Many

Jacobite students are studying in various proffessional colleges

(engineering,medical,nursing,law etc) over here. But we dont have

our church here. The students go to IOC's MGOCSM student's centre,

Marthomite and Catholic Churches on sundays.

>

Dear Sarun,



Previous posts have dealt with similar situations where our members depend upon

and go to IOC or other denominational churches. This is understandable where

only a handfull of members are present. However from your post there appears to

be a sizeable number of our brothers and sisters in your area. You should get

together and start at least a congregation first and then call upon the church

hierarchy to support you. Many of the well established churches have started off

as just a congregation of few people. You could make St. Peter's Simhasana

Church, Trivandrum as a case study for this.



What troubles me more is your statement "We in our church also should start a

student's organisation like mgocsm of IOC.So that the student community outside

kerala will get benefitted". I'm not aware of the present situation but 25 years

ago our church did have an MGSOCSM with similar objectives to MGOCSM though not

as financially strong or with fixed assets, but there was a strong student

membership and many activities. I had been fortunate to be a member, work and

serve in that organisation in several posts at church and diocese levels.

Therefore it is surprising that you have not heard of it. My job has taken me

far away from Kerala's shores and MGSOCSM is not active in my place of

residence. Has MGSOCSM become defunct? As a student the best thing you could do

is to start a unit of MGSOCSM in Devengere, if it still exists!



Best Regards



George K. John

ID # 2918



Sarun Mani Wrote: "I am an engineering student from Davangere Dt,Karnataka. Many

Jacobite students are studying in various proffessional colleges

(engineering,medical,nursing,law etc) over here. But we dont have our church

here. The students go to IOC's MGOCSM student's centre, Marthomite and Catholic

Churches on sundays.



MGOCSM has thier own land and church. I came to know that they spent around 8

lakhs to buy the land and build the church. Our church also should do something

to the student community outside kerala......... Many members of these churches

are Jacobites only. They dont have any other option.So they go to these

churches.



We in our church also should start a student's organisation like mgocsm of

IOC.So that the student community outside kerala will get benefitted.



...................



This is the time to think and act. I request all the members of the forum to

keep this matter in your prayers. And i think many of our Metrapolitans, Priests

and Deacons are members of this forum. I hope, the authority will take a wise

decision in this matter."

Respected Forum Members,



I do agree cent percent with dear Sarun Mani and his sincere request

must be honoured within the earliest possible time frame. With

utmost loyalty to the Holy Church and with due respect, I pray to

our church fathers to extend spiritual guidance to those folks like

Sarun in the areas where we do not have parishes.  It is

absolutely 'the' NEED OF THE HOUR.  See, this is about the spiritual

thirst of our younger generation that should lead the Holy Church of

tomorrow.



This reminds us a very recent discussion on this Forum with regard

to the topic "Any Of Our Churches In Singapore" that resumed with a

message from Jeena Manoj.



In the meantime I would urge Mr.Sarun to be in touch with our dear

Metropolitans, H.G.Thomas Mor Themotheos, H.G.Geevarghese Mor

Policarpose, H.G.Pathrose Mor Osthatheos or H.G.Markose Mor

Christostomos who are our Shepherds for the areas outside Kerala.

You can avail their contacting info. by clicking

www.syriscchristianity.org/ and go to the Primates of the Universal

Syriac Orthodox Church.



Let us keep the subject in our thoughts and prayers.



Babu Jacob Nadayil

#0983







-- In SOCM-FORUM@yahoogroups.com, Sarun Mani wrote:

>

> Barekmor/Shlomo..

>

> By the grace of God our church is on its way to progress. As a

wise navigator,our Catholicose HB Dr.Basalius Thomas I bava is

leading us.

>

> But the case of our church outside kerala is different.

>

> I am an engineering student from Davangere Dt,Karnataka. Many

Jacobite students are studying in various proffessional colleges

(engineering,medical,nursing,law etc) over here. But we dont have

our church here. The students go to IOC's MGOCSM student's centre,

Marthomite and Catholic Churches on sundays.

"I therefore did what belonged to me, as a man devoted to unity. For where there

is division and wrath, God doth not dwell. To all them that repent, the Lord

grants forgiveness, if they turn in penitence to the unity of God, and to

communion with the bishop. I trust [as to you] in the grace of Jesus Christ, who

shall free you from every bond. And I exhort you to do nothing out of strife,

but according to the doctrine of Christ. When I heard some saying, If I do not

find it in the ancient Scriptures, I will not believe the Gospel; on my saying

to them, It is written, they answered me, That remains to be proved. But to me

Jesus Christ is in the place of all that is ancient: His cross, and death, and

resurrection, and the faith which is by Him, are undefiled monuments of

antiquity; by which I desire, through your prayers, to be justified."



St. Ignatius of Antioch.



--------------------------------------------------------------



"Do not let your hand be stretched out to receive and closed when it is time to

give."  Sirach 4:31

I know that our official Biblical text is the Peshitto, but was the

New Testament really originally written in Syriac? Please respond as

soon as possible.



Shlomo.

# 2312

Shlomo Amokh,



Thank you for providing the information. I request you to give a

permanent link to this site from SOCMNet.org if not provided. Mean

while I still request you to introduce the missionary wings and

institutions of the church and I am sure our people will be

benefited. This has reference to my previous mail regarding the

ongoing mails over St.Paul's mission.



In his love



Johnson

#2335



===============================================================

From the desk of the moderators

Thanks for your advice, we will do our best to update SOCMNet.org with all

available details in the near future.



Be with us and be part of us

Dear  Prayer Warrior



ANNOUNCEMENT:



Please be advised that our 26th Global Chain Prayer will be held from  Tuesday

28th November  to Wednesday 29th November 2006.



Please send in advance  the prayer subjects to add to or  to remove from it.



OBITUARY:



Regret to advise you the sad demise of Shri T.C. Mathew he was in our prayer

list for Abdominal Cancer).  He left for his heavenly abode today morning 

(21.11.2006).



He left for the heavenly abode leaving behind his bereaving family; wife & 3

sons. Arrangements are being done to take body to Kerala for burial.   Please

pray for the departed soul.



BE WITH US AND BE PART OF US

SOCM PRAEYR CELL

Bobby Kuriakose brings up a great point as we look towards the future of

ourchurch.  Our youth desire to be educated not so much about political battles

but how to know Christ 'orthodoxically', meaning the Christ given to us in the

Gospels and 'traditioned' to us from our fathers.



There are many versions of Christ that exist.  This is obvious.  Our church

holds on to the teaching of Christ but, unfortunately, we don't wholeheartedly

practice it.  Our youth, especially in the US, are attracted to the other

denominations because they see Christ more evident in these churches.  Granted,

this is a varying version of Christ filled with immediate satisfaction.  It's a

version of Christ that preaches forgiveness without much mention of judgment. 

It's a Christ seen at the Resurrection but not the Cross, etc.



Our church needs to play a greater role in educating our youngsters. I pray that

the online course planned by socm-net will happen soon.  Let our parents also

take initiatives to encourage our youth to attend bible studies and if none

exist, to start one.



I personally know youths who speak of feeling spiritually empty because our

church meets for Sunday only.  After attending bible studies that speak of our

church & its rich traditions and beliefs, they desire to learn more. We have to

re-focus or re-orient our way of thinking, especially our leaders, both clergy &

laity, so that they have more time to be with our youth instead of

administrative and political matters.



Small steps can mean large leaps for our church.  It can't be done alone; we

need each other.



God Bless,

George Aramath

MGSOSA General Secretary

#0892

Matrimonial Digest / 0046-2006



Dear members



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Please read the successful stories of the matrimonial advertisement

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Matrimonial; Code # 072/06

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Jacobite parents from Kottayam now settled in Bangalore invite

proposals for their daughter, fair,27 yrs, 165 Cm, S/W Engineer

pursuing PhD in  UK (Fully funded) from Parents of well educated and

professionally settled boys from middleclass godfearing

Jacobite/Orthodox or Marthomite families.  Girl visiting India in

December 2006. Please contact with biodata and recent photo.

myz_9619@...  09448842614



Matrimonial; Code # 071/06

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Well settled NRI orthodox Parents from Central Travancore invite

proposals for their daughter 26/162, God-fearing, beautiful, PG

Engineer with good academic records and employed in UAE (arriving

Kerala on leave by end of October) from Parents of God-fearing PG

Engineers/Doctors, Engineers with MBA, C.A., Management

Professionals with good Christian family background and well

employed preferably abroad. Respond to e-mail:

jacobite_50@...



Matrimonial; Code # 070/06

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Mumbai based Marthoma parents invited proposal for their daughter,

25 years, 158 cm, B Pham, working in MNC – Insurance Co, Mumbai as

a Underwriter. Father working in Govt. service. Proposal invited

from God fearing and well employed boys from India / abroad.

Interest parents may contact: - papa_ofa@...



Matrimonial; Code # 067/06

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Parents from jaccobit family,  Ernakulam  ,invites proposal for

their daughter , who is M.A.Bed(lts)  working in reputed English

meaduim school, kolencherry. she 27yrs, very fair, 5ft.2inch tall &

she has one sister married to a doctor setteled in Ireland. Plz

contact 0974 5546501 Qatar, or  0914842760328 Ernakulam. mail

petersonv@...



Matrimonial; Code # 066/06

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Jacobite parents  invited proposal for their daughter , 22 years,

164cm, slim and fair , doing M.com final, seeking proposal from

Interested parents of well employed boys may contact

varkey_issac@...



Matrimonial; Code # 065/06

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Invite proposals for a Jacobite B.Tech girl 25years 170cms height

working as a software engineer in a reputed firm in Trivandrum. Girl

is smart and good looking and brought up in very religious priestly

family. Contact on 093429-71427 or sasi-47@...



Matrimonial; Code # 064/06

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Jacobite parents invite proposal for their daughter. She is 29 years

old 5'5" tall slim and fair.She is Working in her field after

finishing M.Sc in Enginnering. We settled in Canada.

Please contact with photo and details.E-mail thomekurian@...



Matrimonial; Code # 061/06

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A middle class Kottayam District Jacobite syrian parents seeking

alliance for their beautiful daughter 25yrs, height 5.4'', Fair /

Wheatish, B'Pharm. currently working in a Pharmaceutical company in

Calcutta.



Brought up outside Kerala. Fluent in Malayalam (speak /read).Parents

currently working in Calcutta. She is God-fearing, Religious, Fun-

loving, Easy going, honest, sincere, simple and  down to earth girl

having a  blend of modern & traditional outlook towards life.



The boy  should be God fearing educated & employed. Please respond

if interested with full details johnmancha_kolkata@... OR

contact 033 - 2329 9197 (7.00 p.m. –10.00 a.m.)



Matrimonial; Code # 060/06

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Jacobite parents from Pathanamthitta Dist  presently living in USA

invite suitable marriage proposals for their daughter, 23 years,

fair, 165 cm, Engineer (Electrical & Telecommunication) presently

doing her Masters Degree course in USA, green card holder born and

brought up in Kuwait graduated from India.



Proposals are invited from God fearing, family oriented boys having

similiar or equal educational background who would like to migrate

or continue his studies in USA.  Interested parties may contact with

full details on email  gjacobjohn@...



Matrimonial; Code # 059/06

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Proposals invited for a Jacobite Christian girl from Ernakulam

district, 24 years/155cms/Wheatish colour/Msc and currently doing

BEd,financially sound from professionals preferably of Ernakulam

district.Father a retired teacher,Mother a Housewife,only sister

married and well settled. If interested please do contact

georgecissac@ yahoo.co.in



Matrimonial; Code # 051/06

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Jacobite Christian girl from Ernakulam District, 27 yrs,Diploma

in Nursing (GNM), very spiritual  and employed as staff nurse in

UK. White complexion,157cm. Looking for qualified, God fearing boy

(Professional degree holders/ Nurses/preferred). Father expired,

mom house wife ,one brother working as a Software consultant and

younger brother in Kerala. Please respond if interested with full

details and recent photographs to propose_2006@...  or

contact on  0485 3297772/ 91 9840119568



Matrimonial; Code # 049/06

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Suitable alliance invited for a Jacobite girl MS (Dual certification

in Education), 25 years, 5.4", fair, slim, simple and beautiful.

She is the eldest of the two children of her parents and her brother

is in college. Born in India, she is raised in Middle-east and US.

She  hails from a well respected Orthodox family settled in US. She

is a  Sunday School Teacher and family is actively involved in

Church and public life.  Father is in business and mother is a RN.

Interested parties may please contact at bharanimol@...

preferably with detailed bio-data and the picture of the boy



Matrimonial; Code # 048/06

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Orthodox parents from Ernakulam dist invite proposals for their

daughter, widow 39 yrs.5'3", Home Science diploma,fair, very Home

loving and God fearing, from Orthodox/Jacobite Widowers of 40 to 45

age group, well settled in life in India or abroad, with clean

habits, positive attitude towards life and home loving.  Please

respond to anupal23@...



Matrimonial; Code # 045/06

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Proposals invited for a god fearing girl 28years 28/163 cm

preparing  for MFDS and working in Chennai, from a middle class

Jacobite family  from Perumbavoor. Her parents working  in Kuwait.

Sister, BDS and  doing internship & brother final year ECE student.



Proposals are invited from god fearing, well placed professionals

from India/abroad, with good moral values and clean habits.

Interested parties may please respond to sheelagk@... with

full details and recent full size photograph of the boy.



Matrimonial; Code # 044/06

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Orthodox parents living in US for 32 years invite marriage

proposals  for their daughter,31 Years old,5'6'' fair, beautiful,

intelligent,  very family oriented & God fearing. Born and brought

up in US with  traditional Indian cultures & Christian values. She

is doing her  Family Medicine Residency in New York. All her

siblings are in the

Medical profession. We are looking for professionals preferably

Doctors, Engineers, Lawyers, CPAs from any Christian denomination.

Please respond with bio-data and a returnable photograph to

vjacob02@... or call 201-921-7815



Matrimonial; Code # 043/06

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Proposals invited for a god fearing girl 23years 5-4" BDS and doing

intern, from a nationally reputed dental college - completing June

2006 , slim, fair and beautiful, from a middle class orthodox

family.  Her father (late) was an Advocate and Mother working in

Govt. service  (Associate Professor). Only brother studying for

Degree Course.



Proposals are invited from god fearing, well placed professionals

from India/abroad, with good moral values and clean habits.

Interested parties may please respond to mathewabru@... /

cvjacob@...  or davischerian@...



Matrimonial; Code # 041/06

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Jacobite Christian girl, 29 yrs old, 5'3", very fair,  USA citizen,

registered nurse, divorced after 6 months  of marriage. No issues.

Looking for qualified boys with clean habits.  e-mail address

ph476@...



Matrimonial; Code # 040/06

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Proposals invited for a 25year old Jacobite girl presently working

as a software engineer in Bangalore. Parents retired teachers

presently settled in Perumbavoor.Only brother married and working

as an engineer in Citibank Singapore. If interested please contact

0484-2523269 or kurianyeldho@...



Matrimonial; Code # 038/06

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Suitable alliance invited for a God-fearing Jacobite girl 28years,

Height : 181cms, Complexsion : Fair, BTech in EEE Working with an

indian MNC in Bangalore.

Parish : Simhasana Church, Kottayam  Father : Advocate, practising

at Kottayam

Mother : Retired Professor.  Siblings : Two.   The proposed girl has

two elder broters, both married and settled.  our prefferance for

goom - should well qualified and employed, have  good moral values.

If interested please respond with your son's details with recent

photo to roni.simon@...



Matrimonial; Code # 037/06

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Orthodox parents residing in USA invite proposals for their

daughter  who is 31 Years old; green card holder from professionally

qualified  boys from any Christian denomination who would like to

immigrate to  USA. She is born & brought up in Kerala, very pretty,

goodlooking,  5'7" tall & slightly disabled. Interested parties

please respond  with your details & a recent photograph to this

address vivaham06@...



Matrimonial; Code # 036/06

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Proposals invited for orthodox girl,24yrs,164 cms, MBBS. Father

working  abroad, but legally separated since 8 yrs. Mother working

in Govt  service. Only brother studying for BTech. Proposals invited

from  doctors  only. If interested contact at ashbluelark05@...



Matrimonial; Code # 035/06

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Suitable alliance invited for a God-fearing orthodox girl  26years,

Height : 153, Complexsion : Fair, M B A in HR & Marketing  (dual

specialization) Languages Known: Malayalam, Hindi& English.  Working

in a stock & share broking company.

Parish : St. Mary's Orthodox Church (Kottayam Cheriyapally) Father:

Mr. Bose Punnathra, Business man  Mother : Ms. Susan Bose, Rtd.

Deputy DEMO.  Siblings : Two



The proposed girl is the one among twins the elder one married and

working as a teacher in a CBSE school Kottayam and younger sister

is  persuing engineering in Calicut government college.  our

prefferance for goom - should well qualified and employed, have

good moral values. If interested please respond with your son's

details with recent  photo to bosepunnathra@...



Matrimonial; Code # 027/05

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Jacobite parents invite remarriage proposals for their

daughter /white&fair/ 28/ 152cm /M.com, DCA. Recordical proof only

existed for the first marriage and the court declared the same as

null and void. Please contact by e-mail with details at at

simiraj@...



Matrimonial; Code # 026/05

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Suitable alliance invited for a God fearing Jacobite Girl, Working

in UK, as staff nurse she is in25, 5.4?, 59 KG, will be coming by

middle of April. Her father is a retired teacher; an active member

of church, Mother is housewife and one brother, working in Delhi.

The boy should be God fearing, fair, caring, having good manners and

preferably from the medical background (BPT or any other).



Interested parents may please contact at basilpaul@...;

basilpaulk@... , 9818730557 04842678110 (K. K Paulose)



Matrimonial; Code # 023/05

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Suitable alliance invited for a Jacobite Girl, 22 years,

164cm,slim,  M.com final. Parents in Saudi Arabia. Family belongs to

Angamally  Diocese. Interested parents may contact

vvmvvm2003@...



Matrimonial; Code # 021/05

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Looking for a good boy computer professional/engineer from a middle

class family from Kerala preferably cochin orthodox/Jacobite aged

over 28 for our second daughter aged 27 MCA slim good looking.

interested persons may wish to contact at george_kunju@...

giving the details.



Matrimonial; Code # 020/05

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Jacobite Christian parents settled in Canada invite proposals for

their daughter, 28 years old, fair, slim 5;5''tall with very high

moral value. she is working after finishing masters in chemical

engineering. Proposals are invited from parents of well educated

boys from any Christian denomination in North America. Please e-mail

thomekurian@... giving the details with code # MP-020/04.



Matrimonial; Code # 019/05

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Jacobite parents seeking alliance for their beautiful daughter

31yrs, height 5.6'' postgraduate teacher in a public school. Born

and brought up outside Kerala. Parents settled in Angamally. The

boy  should be God fearing educated & employed. Preferance will be

given  to boys working outside Kerala. Please contact on

mcsm53@... giving the details.



Matrimonial; Code # 013/05

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Jacobite parents from Ernakulam Dt. invites proposals to her

daughter, who is presently working at Bangalore. Educated and

employed Jacobite youths working at Bangalore are preferred. The

proposals to be made from middle class family. The boy should be

God  fearing. The girl is 25 yrs of old, 5.3". She had Completed

B.Sc. Maths and have GNIIT, (3 yr computer diploma) course

Certificate) please respond to eldhoshimmy@...



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SEEKING BRIDE

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Matrimonial; Code # 069/06

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Jacobite Parents from Kottayam Diocese invites proposals for their

son aged 30yrs, 173 cm height, white, working as Network Engineer in

leading private Hospital in UAE. Father Late Retired Teacher Mother

housewife .One elder brother and syster, married and settled in

kottayam. Interested parties Please respond to email:kfcktm@...



Matrimonial; Code # 063/06

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Orthodox Christian boy from Kottayam District, 28 yrs, Polytechnic

Diploma (Automobiles), very spiritual with clean habits and employed

as Technical Consultant in Dubai based company with family status.

White complexion, 181 cm. looking for qualified, God fearing

girl (Nurses/ Graduates preferred) from middle class families.

Father expired, mom house wife, sister working in RML New Delhi.



Please respond if interested with full details and recent

photographs to bjkuriakose@... or contact on 0481-2462502

(KTM) / 050-3538208 (DXB) or 04-2224051 between 5.30 to 10.30 pm.



Matrimonial; Code # 058/06

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Middle Class Jacobite parents from Kothamangalam seeking proposals

from Jacobite families only for their son, MCA graduate, 25 years

(DOB-19/10/81, Height: 161 cm) working as a software engineer in an

MNC (Satyam Computer Services). Parents are retired teachers and the

only sister is married and settled. Girls must be God fearing,

loyalty towards the Church and who are graduates or doing above

degree 2nd year.  Interested parties may contact Mr. Abin George

Kuriakose on 0091-9949496760 or e-mail: usocsecure@...



Matrimonial; Code # 057/06

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Jacobite Parents from Kottayam Diocese invites proposals for their

son aged 30yrs, 173 cm height, white, working as Spares-in-charge in

leading private Firm in  Kottayam.  Father Pharmacist. Mother house

wife . One younger brother  working as System Administrator

(Computer). Interested parties Please respond to email:

philiperuthical@... or by phone : 0481 – 2371822 (R)".



Matrimonial; Code # 056/06

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Proposals invited for a god fearing Boy 26yrs/186 cm , from a middle

class Jacobite family  from Muvattupuzha. He is a B-Tech graduate in

Computer Science and Engg. Now working as GM in a US based company

at Infopark, Kochi. His parents were  in Bhilai and now settled in

Muvattupuzha. Sister, BSc Nurse married and settled in Florida (US).



Proposals are invited from god fearing, well placed professionals

preferrably from US, with god fearing girls with similar backgrounds

(nurses please excuse).  Interested parties may please respond to

seemasijin@... with  full details and recent full size

photograph of the Girl



Matrimonial; Code # 055/06

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Jacobite parents from Mumbai invite proposals for their son 40,

medium complexion, divorcee, B.Sc. working in an MNC Pharmaceutical

company. Interested parties may please reply to rcmemts@...



Matrimonial; Code # 054/06

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Mumbai based Jacobite parents invite proposals for their son, 35 yrs,

165 cms, B.Com., Inter CA, working in Mumbai as Project Manager for

USA/UK based MNC, from parents of BSc Nurses working in USA/UK or

CGFNS passed nurses working in India/Gulf. Interested parties may

please reply to rcmemts@...



Matrimonial; Code # 052/06

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Religious Jacobite Syrian Orthodox parents hailing from Kothamangalam

[Angamally Diocese] invite marriage proposals for their son, 29

Years, Height: 180 Inches, Wheatish complexion, handsome and God

fearing[Serve the Holy Altar] with clean habits. He has his PG

Diploma in Business Mgmt and works for a leading International Denim

Casual Apparel Brand,handling its Retail Operations in Bangalore. He

has one younger brother who has just completed his Graduation in

Commerce.



We are looking for a God-fearing, caring, family oriented, pleasant

girl from a good Jacobite family with high moral and ethical values,

preferably working.  Those interested, you may please contact

joyvalethu@... or paul.live@...  Res:0485-2571060



Matrimonial; Code # 050/06

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Jacobite Christian boy from Ernakulam District, 30 yrs, M. Tech(

Software Systems ) , very spiritual with clean habits and employed

as Techcnical Consultant having a gross salary of 10.5 lakhs per

annum . Medium complexion,160cm.Looking for qualified, God fearing

girl (Nurses/Software professionals preferred) from middle class

families. Father expired, mom house wife ,one sister working in

UK and younger brother in Kerala. Please respond if interested with

full details and recent photographs to rajesh_s_george@...

or contact on  0485 3297772/ 91 9840119568



Matrimonial; Code # 046/06

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NRI Syrian Orthodox parents from a reputed family invite proposal

for a Smart, Very Loving & Caring Son, 27, 179cm, athletic,

healthy,  broad-minded, medium complexion, Hotel Management Degree,

Immigrated to Canada and decently employed.



Need a Very Loving and Fair girl of any denominations, above 165

cm,  has interest in Nature & Pets and has Professional

Qualifications - preferably Medical/Teaching field- and caliber to

adjust to life in  Canada. Tel: 0481-2582025//2518569/ 2517056/+9663-

5331674 pulickaparamb@... / pulickaparamb@...



Matrimonial; Code # 042/06

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Jacobite Christian boy 29 yrs, MCA ( Master of Computer

Application) ,very spiritual with clean habits and employed in

Kuwait as Product Manager for Microsoft products.Fair,170cm.Looking

for qualified, God fearing girls from middle class families. Parents

in Qatar with one sister married and settled in Bangalore. Please

respond if interested with full details and recent photographs to

jacobp@... or parayiljacob@...   or contact on  +974

4326859 or +974 5412443



Matrimonial; Code # 030/06

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Suitable alliance invited for a God-fearing Jacobite boy from

Chelad  Kothamangalam], working with a leading Fashion brand,

managing  Retail Operations in Mumbai. Age:28y Complexion: Wheatish

Height:180cms or 5ft 11inches Weight:73kgs Family: Moderate. His

father is working as a Dy. Manager with a MNC in Cochin. Mother, a

house-wife. Younger brother pursuing his graduation from Mor

Athanasius College, Kothamangalam.  Interested parents may contact

paul.live@...



Matrimonial; Code # 029/05

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Proposals invited for a well settled Jacobite boy belonging to an

ancient family. The proposed boy is a Mechanical Engineer working

in  a leading Multinational trading company. The boy is

27years,175cms,  fair, God- fearing and with clean habits.



We are looking for a fair, good looking, homely God-fearing girl

from a good Jacobite family.  If interested please contact : email :

tioman_78@...



Matrimonial; Code # 017/05

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Suitable alliance is invited for a Jacobite deacon, age 31, 5ft

5inch  B.A.,B.Ed.,B.D., M.Th., at present doing research work in

university  of Toronto, Canada) teaching in the seminary. family

background:  father, senior Corepiscopa in the church. mother house

wife. one  elder sister, lecturer, got married and one younger

brother advocate. for more information, mail to me

kjpunnachalil@...



Matrimonial; Code # 014/05

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Retired PWD Contractor's family (Jacobite, Middle Class, Ernakulam

District) invites suitable proposal from middle class Jacobite

parents of God fearing girls under 28, 5'1', 48 Kg, employed or

qualified to be employed (prefer teachers or lecturers) in or

around  Ernakulam Dist. She has to look after home affairs as the

brother and sister of the boy to be working overseas.



Their son (32, 5'3" 55 Kg) is a Vet. surgeon in Kerala Government

Service, posted within few kilometers from home, fair, clean

habits,  soft spoken, thin built and God fearing. His has an elder

brother and younger sister, both married. Genuine enquiries may be

posted to varkod@...



Matrimonial; code # 012/04

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Proposals invited from parents of god fearing BSc nurses for a

handsome Jacobite boy, hailing from Kolencherry, 29/168 Graduate,

only son, working as Marketing Executive for a reputed Co. in

Kuwait, active in church matters and having family visa status. He

has two sisters and both of them are well settled. The girl will

have good job prospects in Kuwait. Interested please respond to:

yeljoseph@...

"It is evident that just as words of concern alone do not help a naked or hungry

person if food or clothing is not provided, so faith observed in name only does

not save, for it is dead in itself if it is not made alive by works of charity,

by which it may be made to come to life. Nor it that contrary to this statement

which the Lord uttered, 'He who believes and is baptized will be saved,' for it

must be understood there that only he truly believes who carries out in deed

what he believes. And because faith and charity cannot be separated from one

another - as Paul bears witness by saying, and 'faith which works through love'

- appropriately the apostle John brings forward a statement about charity akin

to James' about faith, saying, 'Anyone who has the world's substance and sees

his brother in need and closes his heart against him, how does the charity of

God remain in him.'"



The Venerable Bede.



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"Honor your father by word and deed, that his blessing may come upon you." 

Sirach 3:8

Matthew,



The original text of the New Testament was most likely written in Koine Greek,

the vernacular dialect in 1st-century Roman provinces of the Eastern

Mediterranean, and has since been widely translated into other languages, most

notably, Latin, Syriac, and Coptic.



But there are a very small minority of scholars who consider the Aramaic version

of the New Testament to be the original and believe the Greek is a translation.



(Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Testament)



Hope this helps,

George Aramath

#0892

As far as I know; other than the Gospel by St.Matthew and the Letter

of St.James, most of the New Testament was originally written in

Greek.



Apostles after Pentacost could communicate in any language. My guess

why Greek was the language of choice was because most of the epistles

are addressed to various local churuches in Greece like Corinthians,

Thessalonians, Philippians etc.. So it make sense to write in a

language that the locals can understand.



In Christ,

Mathew G M

Member ID # 0929



--- In SOCM-FORUM@yahoogroups.com, Matthew wrote:

>

> I know that our official Biblical text is the Peshitto, but was the

> New Testament really originally written in Syriac? Please respond as

> soon as possible.

>

> Shlomo.

> # 2312

>

Dear Father,



I am a new on this forum.I am very intersted in learnig about Syriac

Christianity.I have studied many resources on the Internet-but it is sometimes

really difficult to find some answers.Syriac Christianity is not so good

represented compared to Byzantine or Latin Christianity.



What is the Syriac attitude towards:

-eschatology(if Revelation is not in the canon),

-theosis(deification),

-dietary law,

-observance of the Sabbath and the Lord's Day.



I would be very glad to have these questions answered.



God bless

Mariss Gedziunas

Lithuania

Dear all,



Mangalam Daily reports:



IOC Bishop Yuhanon Militos (Trichur)resigned from the post of Asst. Metropolitan

of Angamali(IOC) Diocese.



Reason....Militios Vs. Militios...???....!!!



God is great.



Saju Paulose

St. Mary's JSO Church

White Plains, NY

ID# 2341