In the recent working committee of JSOC it is decided that independent bishop

will be ordained for Bangalore diocese. Bangalore is a fast growing city with

lot of Jacobite and so many new congregations are coming up. Most of the members

are working in IT sectors and are youth. For example, the newly formed

Marathahalli St George Church has 52 families but only 3 families have their age

above 45. While ordaining a new bishop it is better to consider  this fact. The

bishop is to be well educated, young and should have good knowledge about

technology along with all other requirements as the church follows. This will

help the younger generation and the bishop can serve the community better.

With regards,



Eldo

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Dear moderator

Is the below critieria follwed by JESUS CHRIST to select HIS followers? As per

biblical study!



Eldo Kurian



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>--- On Tue, 28/12/10, Eldo wrote:

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>In the recent working committee of JSOC it is decided that >independent bishop

will be ordained for Bangalore diocese. Bangalore >is a fast growing city with

lot of Jacobite and so many new >congregations are coming up. Most of the

members are working in IT >sectors and are youth. For example, the newly formed

Marathahalli St >George Church has 52 families but only 3 families have their

age >above 45. While ordaining a new bishop it is better to consider  this

>fact. The bishop is to be well educated, young and should have good >knowledge

about technology along with all other requirements as the >church follows. This

will help the younger generation and the bishop >can serve the community better.

Exactly, you said it. We dont need to look for a manager to run any business in

Bangalore instead Lord will raise a good shepherd having great faith, who can

lead a prayerful life.



Nebu Jacob

St. Mary's Church, Sydney,Australia.

Home parish -[St Marys Church Neelimangalam Kottayam].

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> Dear moderator

> Is the below critieria follwed by JESUS CHRIST to select HIS followers? As per

biblical study!

>

> Eldo Kurian

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I dont think that we must decide a Bishop based on his JAVA or C++ experience



Let leave the matter to Hol Synod to decide



As far as I know our Bishops are more accepted than those other bishops from

rival groups who spend most of the time on facebook and Orkut



I feel the bangalore diocese also doing a lot to settle marriage issues ,avoid

Divorces common now among IT engineers , help incite religious beleifs and other

holy practices



Abraham

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Dear Eldo,



I am not a moderator. But I know one thing, we dont' know what criteria Jesus

Christ used to select his disciples. We know that Jesus Christ is God and being

God he know the hearts of people, he know the past, present and the future. We

as ordinary people dont have a way of knowing the hearts of people, we don't

know the future either.



A better question was how did the Apostle's select their successor. Acts 1:

21-26 gives us a good description of how they did it. Among the believers they

chose two qualified men; then they cast lots and elected St. Matthias to take

the place of Judas, that had fell vacant.



Now, another question arises. Is Bangalore diocese really vacant. No. We have

H.G Diascoros. So don't understand the need for one more Bishop for the church.



In Christ,

Mathew G M

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> Dear moderator

> Is the below critieria follwed by JESUS CHRIST to select HIS followers? As per

biblical study!

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> Eldo Kurian

Respected members,



The Jacobite Syrian Christian Church of India is a tiny part of the mainstream

and, in reality, is not detached from "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly"

elements/nature of the society. Let's pray for the Holy Spirit's influence in

all the decisions of our Church including the choice of bishops.



In His Love,

Jai

#914

-DEAR FRIENDS,



1] We are in January of 2011. Yet another January and the Aluva Thrikkunnath

Seminary Church and the annual festival is coming around on 26th,



2] The poor faithful have been treated with a series of statement wars by both

the factions relating to this Church which remain closed for 34 years now,



3] By a chance of Church History the Orthodox Church authorities are in

possession of the keys= obviously handed over by Corepiscopa Jacob Mannaraprayil

,



4] The key holders are mortally afraid to open the Church because the members of

the Church residing nearby are all faithful Jacobites[ erstwhile Patriarch

Faction],



5] Burial of members of both rival faction takes place under Police protection

without allowing entry of religious dignitaries of either faction. The Dead Body

is not respected,



6] Last year the church opened and religious dignitaries of both faction

conducted Holy Qurbana in the Church and Doopa Prarthana at the Tombs on the

basis of a Court Order. Each ordinary member of the Holy Church were happy

irrespective of factionalism,



7] Thereafter, for eleven months every one slept. No attempt to get a verdict

from Court=one way or another=was attempted. Both sides were happy to keep it

adjourned especially the respondents in the Appeal Suit 262 of 2003 in the High

Court of Kerala,



WHAT IS HAPPENING AT ALUVA IS THE GREATEST FARCE IN MALANKARA CHURCH HISTORY.

WHEN ARE WE GOING TO REALISE THAT THIS CHURCH SHOULD BE KEPT OPENED TO

FACILITATE RELIGIOUS SERVICES BY RELIGIOUS DIGNITARIES OF BOTH MALANKARA

ORTHODOX CHURCH AND JACOBITE CHURCH JUST LIKE THE ONE IN KOORTHAMALA PALLY??????



ADVOCATE P J PHILIP,

1807

I dont understand what is there to snowball this silly point as a big issue

leaving to the Holy Synod to decide!! Many of the people in their 40s or above

40 years do not know how to operate a computer and the  new generation gadgets.

So our church might felt that the new bishops should be aware of all these

things so that they can serve the Holy church in a more efficient way. Who

knows, tomorrow jacobite church might install a computer network connecting all

churches and organisations. If you closely watch the growth of our church, that

day is not that far.

So take that suggestion in the right spirit and understand the right intention

behind such decesions. I personally would suggest that all preists and Bishops

in all churches should be given training in IT as we see refresher courses in

big corporates. Its part of improving the system. Dont see things only from the

"so called orthodox' angel who will see only monetory things...

 

Also understand that no one can become the servent of our Lord unless he is

selected by God.

 

Abhilash 

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