Dear Caye,
     In A History of Slovakia: A Struggle for Survival page 3 of maps shows
Slovak Counties in Hungary. Zemplin County would have Humenne and Michalovce
in it. Presov was in Saris County and Kosice in Abov County.
     Michael Mojher
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Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 12:37 PM
Subject: [S-R] Slovak GEOGRAPHY Questions SURNAME: MITRO


> Hi All:
>
> Still trying to nail down the Mitro origination -- and am finding current
telephone listings primarily in these locations:
>
> Humenne
> Presov
> Michalovce
> Kosice
>
> Can anyone tell me if these are all located within Zemplin -- or maybe
re-list the maps with the county borders and the old/new names of the
villages?  I can tell by Mapquest that they are relatively close in
proximity and are in Eastern Slovakia between Poland and Hungary.  Thanks!
>
> Caye
>
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Marcia:

Thank you very much for the web sites.
Peggy
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Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 5:22 PM
Subject: RE: [S-R] Chicago marriage records


> Hi Peggy
> For Cook County (Chicago)
> http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/GenealogyMWeb/marrsrch.html
>
> For Michigan
> Dept of Community Health
> http://www.michigan.gov/mdch/1,1607,7-132-4645---,00.html
>
> http://www.mdch.state.mi.us/PHA/OSR/vital_records/index.htm
>
> There are directions on how to obtain the certificates there.
>
> Hope this helps

>
>

Dear Caye,
     On a modern map the Humenne District is in Presov County and Michalovce
District is in Kosice County.
Michael Mojher
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Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 12:37 PM
Subject: [S-R] Slovak GEOGRAPHY Questions SURNAME: MITRO


> Hi All:
>
> Still trying to nail down the Mitro origination -- and am finding current
telephone listings primarily in these locations:
>
> Humenne
> Presov
> Michalovce
> Kosice
>
> Can anyone tell me if these are all located within Zemplin -- or maybe
re-list the maps with the county borders and the old/new names of the
villages?  I can tell by Mapquest that they are relatively close in
proximity and are in Eastern Slovakia between Poland and Hungary.  Thanks!
>
> Caye
>
>
>
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I have a friend who is married to a Ruttkay in Vrutky, Slovakia

Dan Kisha  daniel.kisha@...
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Phone number in Slovakia: 421 (0)43 428 3168
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-----Original Message-----
From: Janet Kozlay [mailto:kozlay@...]
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 12:40 AM
To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [S-R] Laskos from Bartos Lehotka


Hi Tom,



Old Also and Felso (Lower and Upper) Jeszen, today Horne and Dolne
Jaseno,
are just SSW of Martin and Vrutky (old Ruttka).  The Jeszenszkys
and
Ruttkays were among quite a group of nobles in that area that
intermarried.
Their names appear over and over in the church records. Most of
them were
Evangelical. My husband's gg-grandmother was a Ruttkay, and there
are many
of them in the area today.  We were there during the fall of 2002,
and I
think we found about 20 Ruttkays in the Vrutky phone book-too many
to try to
contact, especially about relationships from the mid-1800s. So we
didn't
bother. But it is a beautiful area to visit. Take lots of
pictures.

             We arranged beforehand to have a translator travel
with us, but
she was not easy to find. She actually came all the way from
Kosice to help
us. You will not find English speakers everywhere (they are more
likely to
know German or Russian), so we felt more comfortable having her
along.
Perhaps we could have found someone once we were there, but we
didn't want
to take the chance.

             We were cautioned before we went not to expect to
learn very
much during our visit, that we could do better research right here
through
the LDS records. Our experience bore that out. Joyce seems to echo
those
sentiments as well.

             I have not run into your Zigmund yet, but if I do,
I'll let you
know. It would be helpful if you knew approximately when he was
born. In
turn, I am looking for Susanna, Boldizsar, or Gyorgy Ruttkay, who
were
probably born very early in the 1800s, and their father, Pal.
Haven't found
them yet, but I'm still looking.

             I know you will enjoy your trip. Let us know how you
make out.



Janet





-----Original Message-----
From: Lasko [mailto:tlasko@...]
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 8:14 PM
To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [S-R] Laskos from Bartos Lehotka



Hello,



I am a new subscriber with roots in both the Kremnica and Vrutky
areas. My

ggrandfather was Anton LACZKO (LATZKO) married to Anna Geyer, who
lived and

died in Bartos Lehotka or Kremnica.



My other ggrandfather Zigmund RUTTKAY came from what is now
Vrutky. He

married Zuzanna Jeszenszky, daughter of Kristof Jeszensky. She was
from a

place called Nagy Jeszen. I am thinking it is the town called
Jasene on

current maps. I am searching for Zigmund's parents names.



I have an opportunity to travel to Vrutky and Kremnica next month
(March,

2004) and would appreciate advice on how to begin a search of the
area.

Plans are to visit the archives, take pictures of the sites and,
as we have

already identified many people in the Slovak phone directory who
could be

cousins, make some visits and phone calls. Unfortunately I speak
only

English, but am hoping to find someone there to help us with the
language.



Thanks,



Tom Lasko



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HI JON
  THANKS FOR LOOKING BUT YES THEY DID LIVE IN LIPOV PRE 1910?THEY DID A LOT OF
TRAVEL WITH ZAK FAMILY AND SOME OKENKAS. THEN LATER  THEY BECAME FAMILY.  ALL
FROM LIPOV AREA AS I KNOW IT.

THE NEMECEK FAMILY WAS FROM KUZELOV AREA AND IS STILL SOME THERE. I MADE
CONTACT WITH THEM BUT IS HARD AS THEY DO NOT SPEAK ENGLISH AND I DON'T SPEAK
CZECH!
I HAVE BEEN RESEARCHING FOR A WHILE BUT NEVER GET MUCH OF ANYWHERE ABOUT
GREAT GRANDFATHER JISKRA.
I PLAN TO GO TO CZ WHEN I HAVE ENOUGH $$$$ BUT HOPE TO GET AS MUCH
INFORMATION AS I CAN BEFORE I GO SO I CAN SPEND MORE TIME TO MEET WITH FAMILY.
   THANKS FOR HELPING ...JENNIFER


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HI FRANK,
  I DONT KNOW WHAT HIS FIRST NAME WAS YET BUT HOPE TO FIND OUT SOON . I WILL
AGAIN TRY TO ASK THE FAMILY IN CZ THEY ARE LISTED IN THE HODINEN] AREA [I KNOW
THAT'S NOT CORRECT SPELLING!]
THE TABLE CLOTH HAS LIONS ON IT BUT I HAVE SO MANY CZECH FAMILY IM NOT SORE
WHOS IT IS THERE ARE PRASEK, JISKRA,NEMECEK,SEDLAR AND COULD BE ANY ONE OF
THOSE SURS.
WEAVING AND NEEDLE WORK WAS COMMON IN THE FAMILY AND I HAVE EVEN AN OLD DOLL
COSTUME. THE NEMECEK SIDE WAS INVOLVED WITH AN OKENKA IN RESTORING THE KUZELOV
WINDMILL .
I HAVE ALSO A PAINTING OF MY GRANDMOTHER SITTING IN BACK OF THE MILL.
I SO WISH I WOULD HAVE LISTENED MORE TO THE STORY'S WHEN I WAS I LITTLE GIRL
THEY WERE SUCH A PROUD FAMILY AND FOR GOOD REASON!
OTHER FAMILY NAMES HRBAC,ZAK,JAGOS, MIHALIK,MIKLOSKO,TOMES
     MAY BE I TALK TOO MUCH!
THANKS  JENNIFER


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The Asbury Park Press had the obituary of a ROBERT J. BENKO, Sr, 68 yrs., who
resided in Leisure Knoll in Manchester.  I think I have seen the name Benko on
this list.

For further info. contained in the obit. go to:

http://www.app.com

Bernardine

Birmovani were ususally 13 - 20 years old before marriage. The Birmovka
(confirmation) was served by bishop every 4-5 year.
Peter


>From: "dconverset" <dconverset@...>
>Reply-To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
>To: <SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [S-R] Skorvaga
>Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 20:44:37 +0100
>
>In the Mormons' films from Stara Bystrica, about 1750 we can see
>"Birmovani". How old were the children when they have Birmovani. Did they
>change first name ?
>When a woman died, what name was written on the books: her name from her
>father or her name from her husband?
>Thank you for your answer.
>Françoise
>
>
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>

_________________________________________________________________
Plan your week with MSN Weather-  http://www.msn.sk/weather/

Jennifer,
Two comments.
First:  Hodonin is located very near to the Slovak border.  You should check:

http://www.iarelative.com/sastin.htm

you will find some of your surnames listed there.  Perhaps I can help, as
I am also descended from MIHALIK.

Second:  Please type in lower case except for surnames which you should
put in capitals, as MIHALIK above.  Makes for much easier-to-read text.

Thanks!!
Don Havlicek
Connersville, IN


>  HI FRANK,
>  I DONT KNOW WHAT HIS FIRST NAME WAS YET BUT HOPE TO FIND OUT SOON . I
> WILL
> AGAIN TRY TO ASK THE FAMILY IN CZ THEY ARE LISTED IN THE HODINEN] AREA [I
> KNOW
> THAT'S NOT CORRECT SPELLING!]
> THE TABLE CLOTH HAS LIONS ON IT BUT I HAVE SO MANY CZECH FAMILY IM NOT
> SORE
> WHOS IT IS THERE ARE PRASEK, JISKRA,NEMECEK,SEDLAR AND COULD BE ANY ONE OF
> THOSE SURS.
> WEAVING AND NEEDLE WORK WAS COMMON IN THE FAMILY AND I HAVE EVEN AN OLD
> DOLL
> COSTUME. THE NEMECEK SIDE WAS INVOLVED WITH AN OKENKA IN RESTORING THE
> KUZELOV
> WINDMILL .
> I HAVE ALSO A PAINTING OF MY GRANDMOTHER SITTING IN BACK OF THE MILL.
> I SO WISH I WOULD HAVE LISTENED MORE TO THE STORY'S WHEN I WAS I LITTLE
> GIRL
> THEY WERE SUCH A PROUD FAMILY AND FOR GOOD REASON!
> OTHER FAMILY NAMES HRBAC,ZAK,JAGOS, MIHALIK,MIKLOSKO,TOMES
>     MAY BE I TALK TOO MUCH!
> THANKS  JENNIFER
>
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Those of you who are interested in good map of Slovakia  may wish to check
on this one.  Some details follow, or check
the Slovak Institute website.

"In recent years, the research of surnames for Slovak immigrants coming to
America has created a need for a new service by the Slovak Institute.
Working with spellings of surnames and maps to identify old towns going back
to that period of the Dual Monarchy (1867 to 1918) is made easy."

This a large black and white map of Slovakia, designed and sold exclusively
by the Slovak Institute - www.slovakinstitute.com - at $10.00 per map plus
$2.00 for shipping and handling. If help is needed locating a town or a
village in Slovakia, provide details with the order and they will include
the information about the community.


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Hi Don
  my uncles name was Facis MIHALEK born ? died 1975 of heart condition .
Frank wed Rose JISKRA born 1920 died 2002. they lived in millbury ohio .
they had two children Frank and Sylvia.....sylvia has passed away thursday of
last week .
    is this relation?
   thanks jennifer


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Don correct spelling for Frank..[. MIHALIK.] was looking at records and my
sister had it wrong. frank also had a brother John but do not know Jons wifes
name only that they had 3 children two boys and one girl.
I would like to know more about the iarelated sasten graves of
NEMECEK,MIHALIK,ZAK .
Thank You again Jennifer


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My e-mail address has been changed. It is tbeiceman@...
Pleasr send future e-mails to me at the new e-mal address.

Thank you kindly.
  Theresa


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Have you seen this map personally?

______________
Bill Tarkulich




-----Original Message-----
From: Helen France [mailto:hwfr@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 3:41 PM
To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com; SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [S-R] Map of Slovakia


Those of you who are interested in good map of Slovakia  may wish to check
on this one.  Some details follow, or check the Slovak Institute website.

"In recent years, the research of surnames for Slovak immigrants coming to
America has created a need for a new service by the Slovak Institute.
Working with spellings of surnames and maps to identify old towns going back
to that period of the Dual Monarchy (1867 to 1918) is made easy."

This a large black and white map of Slovakia, designed and sold exclusively
by the Slovak Institute - www.slovakinstitute.com - at $10.00 per map plus
$2.00 for shipping and handling. If help is needed locating a town or a
village in Slovakia, provide details with the order and they will include
the information about the community.


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Hi Bill:

I have one that was purchased by my Mother many years ago through Jednota.
It's quite large - approx 27" X 48".  I had checked
with the Slovak Institute about a year ago.  It wasn't available then, so I
was pleased to find it now.  My copy is rather ragged
and I want to replace it.  It isn't fancy but it does have all the villages
with their "old" names.

Hope this helps.

Helen


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From: Bill Tarkulich [mailto:bill.tarkulich@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 7:38 PM
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Subject: RE: [S-R] Map of Slovakia


Have you seen this map personally?

______________
Bill Tarkulich




-----Original Message-----
From: Helen France [mailto:hwfr@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 3:41 PM
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Subject: [S-R] Map of Slovakia


Those of you who are interested in good map of Slovakia  may wish to check
on this one.  Some details follow, or check the Slovak Institute website.

"In recent years, the research of surnames for Slovak immigrants coming to
America has created a need for a new service by the Slovak Institute.
Working with spellings of surnames and maps to identify old towns going back
to that period of the Dual Monarchy (1867 to 1918) is made easy."

This a large black and white map of Slovakia, designed and sold exclusively
by the Slovak Institute - www.slovakinstitute.com - at $10.00 per map plus
$2.00 for shipping and handling. If help is needed locating a town or a
village in Slovakia, provide details with the order and they will include
the information about the community.


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I have a copy of this map that I also purchased through Jednota.  It was
prepared and published by the Slovak Institute and is on a scale of 1: 360,000.

The map is well done and has been very helpful in my research.

Gil K.


Helen France <hwfr@...> wrote:
Hi Bill:

I have one that was purchased by my Mother many years ago through Jednota.
It's quite large - approx 27" X 48".  I had checked
with the Slovak Institute about a year ago.  It wasn't available then, so I
was pleased to find it now.  My copy is rather ragged
and I want to replace it.  It isn't fancy but it does have all the villages
with their "old" names.

Hope this helps.

Helen


-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Tarkulich [mailto:bill.tarkulich@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 7:38 PM
To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com; Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [S-R] Map of Slovakia


Have you seen this map personally?

______________
Bill Tarkulich




-----Original Message-----
From: Helen France [mailto:hwfr@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 3:41 PM
To: Slovak-World@yahoogroups.com; SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [S-R] Map of Slovakia


Those of you who are interested in good map of Slovakia  may wish to check
on this one.  Some details follow, or check the Slovak Institute website.

"In recent years, the research of surnames for Slovak immigrants coming to
America has created a need for a new service by the Slovak Institute.
Working with spellings of surnames and maps to identify old towns going back
to that period of the Dual Monarchy (1867 to 1918) is made easy."

This a large black and white map of Slovakia, designed and sold exclusively
by the Slovak Institute - www.slovakinstitute.com - at $10.00 per map plus
$2.00 for shipping and handling. If help is needed locating a town or a
village in Slovakia, provide details with the order and they will include
the information about the community.


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--- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, bemimitwo@a... wrote:
>  HI FRANK,
>  I DONT KNOW WHAT HIS FIRST NAME WAS YET BUT HOPE TO FIND OUT SOON
. I WILL
> AGAIN TRY TO ASK THE FAMILY IN CZ THEY ARE LISTED IN THE HODINEN]
AREA [I KNOW
> THAT'S NOT CORRECT SPELLING!]
> THE TABLE CLOTH HAS LIONS ON IT BUT I HAVE SO MANY CZECH FAMILY IM
NOT SORE
> WHOS IT IS THERE ARE PRASEK, JISKRA,NEMECEK,SEDLAR AND COULD BE ANY
ONE OF
> THOSE SURS.
> WEAVING AND NEEDLE WORK WAS COMMON IN THE FAMILY AND I HAVE EVEN AN
OLD DOLL
> COSTUME. THE NEMECEK SIDE WAS INVOLVED WITH AN OKENKA IN RESTORING
THE KUZELOV
> WINDMILL .
> I HAVE ALSO A PAINTING OF MY GRANDMOTHER SITTING IN BACK OF THE
MILL.
> I SO WISH I WOULD HAVE LISTENED MORE TO THE STORY'S WHEN I WAS I
LITTLE GIRL
> THEY WERE SUCH A PROUD FAMILY AND FOR GOOD REASON!
> OTHER FAMILY NAMES HRBAC,ZAK,JAGOS, MIHALIK,MIKLOSKO,TOMES
>     MAY BE I TALK TOO MUCH!
> THANKS  JENNIFER
Lipov (1 church) is a small settlement located just east of
Stráznice
and 3 miles distant from Kuz^elov (2 churches).
Kuz^elov is located 160 miles ESE of Praha in Moravia, Czech Republic.
A even smaller settlement Malá Vrkba is located 2 miles distant
from
Kuz^elov and just south of Lipov.

Ellis Island Records list 1,025 surnames ZAK and 27 surnames OKENKA
who had emigrated to US 1892-1924.

The surnames OKENKA were mainly from Malá Vrkba and 5 were from
Kuz^elov.
These surnames seemed to be associated with Toledo, Ohio.

Nemecek is the 97th most common Czech surname.
A diminutive form of the 21st most common Czech surname Nemec meaning
"German",

EIR list 116 surnames NEMECEK who emigrated to US, including 5
surnames
from Lipov and 4 surnames from Kuz^elov.

In 1910, a Katerina Namecek, age 17, born in Malá Vrkba had
emigrated to
her brother's Jan (John) Nemecek address in Toledo, Ohio.


Czech Archives
http://czechcensus.tripod.com/archives.htm

>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Has anyone heard of this name or known anyone with it.  It was my
father's father's last name when he came to the U.S., but when the
arrived in Chicago, the public schools changed it to Bertz.

sincerely,

check this website:
Perz is there
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/EIDB/ellis.html



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--- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "coramund" <coramund@h...> wrote:
> Has anyone heard of this name or known anyone with it.  It was my
> father's father's last name when he came to the U.S., but when the
> arrived in Chicago, the public schools changed it to Bertz.
>
> sincerely,

What language did your GF speak if he had emigrated to the US ?
What was his first name ? What year ?

Probably 450-650 surname Perz bearers  just in the USA.
Ellis Island Records list 202 surnames Perz from  Spain, Cuba, Italy, Poland,
Germany , Austria (Gottschee), Turkey, Yugoslavia, etc.

RootsWeb's gedcom files list 262 surnames Perz.
A Perz born in IL in 1892 was a steel mill worker in Chicago IL in 1930.

Frank K

My Grandfather's name was Joseph, He was born Feb. 17 1869 in
Tienfenreighter, Austria.  I can not find this town on any maps of Austria.
My Grandmother's name was Magdalena Samide.  She was born Aug. 25 1868 in
Schanckdorfor or Schalkendorf.

I can't tell you very much else as they died long before I was born.  I
would appreciate any help any one can give me on the towns.  Also the last
name Samide.

Sincerely,


>From: "Frank" <frankur@...>
>Reply-To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
>To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [S-R] Re: Perz as a family name.
>Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 13:21:48 -0000
>
>--- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "coramund" <coramund@h...> wrote:
> > Has anyone heard of this name or known anyone with it.  It was my
> > father's father's last name when he came to the U.S., but when the
> > arrived in Chicago, the public schools changed it to Bertz.
> >
> > sincerely,
>
>What language did your GF speak if he had emigrated to the US ?
>What was his first name ? What year ?
>
>Probably 450-650 surname Perz bearers  just in the USA.
>Ellis Island Records list 202 surnames Perz from  Spain, Cuba, Italy,
>Poland,
>Germany , Austria (Gottschee), Turkey, Yugoslavia, etc.
>
>RootsWeb's gedcom files list 262 surnames Perz.
>A Perz born in IL in 1892 was a steel mill worker in Chicago IL in 1930.
>
>Frank K
>

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--- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "carole wilson" <coramund@h...>
wrote:
> My Grandfather's name was Joseph, He was born Feb. 17 1869 in
> Tienfenreighter, Austria.  I can not find this town on any maps of
Austria.
> My Grandmother's name was Magdalena Samide.  She was born Aug. 25
1868 in
> Schanckdorfor or Schalkendorf.
>
> I can't tell you very much else as they died long before I was
born.  I
> would appreciate any help any one can give me on the towns.  Also
the last
> name Samide.
>
> Sincerely,
Carol

Verstehen Sie deutsch ?
Do you understand German ?

Both surnames PERZ and SAMIDE(SAMIDA) were from Gottschee, Krain,
Austria, formerly Austro-Hungarian Empire.

Your village of Tienfenreighter  was Tiefenreuter (HG),
Trindabitz (GOTT) ,Trnovec (SL)

Schalkendorf was Schalkendorf (HG),Schaokndoarf (Schaokndaf)(GOTT),
Salka vas (SL)
(High-German,Gottscheerisch,Slovenian)

Gottscheer Villages URL

http://www.pipeline.com/~jbglad/Gottschee-list.html

Gottscheers are descendants of the people who lived in the
German-speaking district of Gottschee
in the Austrian Duchy of Carniola (Krain), which was part of the
Austro-Hungarian Empire until 1918 when the Empire was dissolved
following World War I. From 1918 until 1991, Gottschee was
part of the northernmost Yugoslav Repulic of Slovenia. Since 1991,
Slovenia has been an independent country.
Today, Gottschee is a city and district in Slovenia and is known by
its
Slovene name: Koc^evje.

http://www.gottschee.org/~ghga/ghga.htm


Surname Query Page URL

http://www.gottschee.org/%7eghga/query.htm

Also join the Gottschee-L Mailing List.

Viel Glück !
Good Luck !

Frank K
>
> >From: "Frank" <frankur@w...>
> >Reply-To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
> >To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [S-R] Re: Perz as a family name.
> >Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 13:21:48 -0000
> >
> >--- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "coramund" <coramund@h...>
wrote:
> > > Has anyone heard of this name or known anyone with it.  It was
my
> > > father's father's last name when he came to the U.S., but when
the
> > > arrived in Chicago, the public schools changed it to Bertz.
> > >
> > > sincerely,
> >
> >What language did your GF speak if he had emigrated to the US ?
> >What was his first name ? What year ?
> >
> >Probably 450-650 surname Perz bearers  just in the USA.
> >Ellis Island Records list 202 surnames Perz from  Spain, Cuba,
Italy,
> >Poland,
> >Germany , Austria (Gottschee), Turkey, Yugoslavia, etc.
> >
> >RootsWeb's gedcom files list 262 surnames Perz.
> >A Perz born in IL in 1892 was a steel mill worker in Chicago IL in
1930.
> >
> >Frank K
> >
>
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There is a Joseph Perz who lives in Irwin, PA  and attends St.Agnes RC Church.
There are several others with the surname Perz who live in south western
Pennsylvania.

Gil K.

coramund <coramund@...> wrote:
Has anyone heard of this name or known anyone with it.  It was my
father's father's last name when he came to the U.S., but when the
arrived in Chicago, the public schools changed it to Bertz.

sincerely,




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Hi all,

One of the things I thought of doing while I've been ill is to
develop a database of the surnames we are researching. I need your
help to see if this will work :)

Right now, I am only doing one table in the DATABASE section for
surnames A through E  -- no sense in doing all the work to set them
all up til we see if this works, or fix anything that doesn't work.

SO.... if you have any Slovak surnames A through E  you can  help
out... it does not matter if they are in the old country or US or
wherever, the database has a section for location.

I put in a sample one... you can see it there.. but here is how I
think it can work.

We will have tables covering all the alphabet eventually... a space
to list surname (and variations of spelling), location, your name and
your email address.

This is a list only, there is no space to include details.

If you have those surnames, please go and add your info and we'll see
how it works. I will check back in a few days and see what the
reaction is, and if we need to fix anything.

I'm wondering if we will have space to add years? Do you think that
is needed? If we have space enough, maybe we can add that.

If you have any suggestions, comments etc, please email me at
maurasminis@...  If this works, I am hoping to have databases
covering A-Z, and depending on how much storage we use (yahoo can be
limited ) maybe also do location database too. I think many of us are
researching similar names and places but don't know it.

Let's see if this works.. hope so!

Maura

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I've been trying to learn about the village of Lazisko. I've tried the archives
here,
online newspapers and general web searches and can't find much. Can anyone here
direct me to an information source?
Thanks so much.
Liza

Maura, What a great idea. I have added the Surnames for the 4 generations
back, both maternal & paternal. I hope everyone adds their names to the
database. It sure will make being more organized with our research here.
Thanks, rozalia

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Who do we send the surnames to or where to we add them?

To add your surname info to the database go to:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SLOVAK-ROOTS/

the main page for this group and on the left hand side you will see the
word "Database" just under members, sign in and click on Database and Add
Surname, then fill in form.

I hope everyone adds their info so we can get more organized,
Rozalia

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Maura,

Your idea is a very good one.  When you get to the letters, G, L, M, & P; I will
patiently await my opportunity to add my families Slovak surnames.

Janet

mpetzolt <maurasminis@...> wrote:
Hi all,

One of the things I thought of doing while I've been ill is to
develop a database of the surnames we are researching. I need your
help to see if this will work :)

Right now, I am only doing one table in the DATABASE section for
surnames A through E  -- no sense in doing all the work to set them
all up til we see if this works, or fix anything that doesn't work.

SO.... if you have any Slovak surnames A through E  you can  help
out... it does not matter if they are in the old country or US or
wherever, the database has a section for location.

I put in a sample one... you can see it there.. but here is how I
think it can work.

We will have tables covering all the alphabet eventually... a space
to list surname (and variations of spelling), location, your name and
your email address.

This is a list only, there is no space to include details.

If you have those surnames, please go and add your info and we'll see
how it works. I will check back in a few days and see what the
reaction is, and if we need to fix anything.

I'm wondering if we will have space to add years? Do you think that
is needed? If we have space enough, maybe we can add that.

If you have any suggestions, comments etc, please email me at
maurasminis@...  If this works, I am hoping to have databases
covering A-Z, and depending on how much storage we use (yahoo can be
limited ) maybe also do location database too. I think many of us are
researching similar names and places but don't know it.

Let's see if this works.. hope so!

Maura



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