>>> Since the records for the church where the Sugar family attended only has
records back to 1872, <<<

Gimme a hint. Which religion? Which village? Which church records?

Deborah,

>>> "We do not
know what happened to his Uncle Andreas, or Josephus, or his Aunt
Appolonia. <<<

  May have found "Josephus":

CSUTTEK, Jozsef (36 y.o. married locksmith)from Kubina, arriving Aug 16, 1899
going to brother in St. Clair, Pa and *** had been here "90/3" - 4 years ( which
I interpret to be 1890-1893? ). Totally unable to make out the name of the town,
even after comparing all present-day places in Schuylkill County:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Clair,_Pennsylvania

Link to the record(hopefully)
:http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/EIDB/engine/gold.php?uid=1361993278922136199\
3303496&referrer=httpstevemorse.orgellis2ellisgold.html&mode=running&time=136208\
1313316&arrivalPort=ellisgold&firstkind=close&FNM=&kind=close&LNM=Csuttek&compan\
ionkind=close&CNM=&townkind=close&town=kubina&SHP=&prtkind=close&PRT=&SYR=&EYR=&\
MONTH=&DAY=&SAGE=&EAGE=&offset=1&MRTL=&BSYR=&BEYR=&pagesize=50&CGD=&FLD=name&FLD\
=yoa&FLD=age&FLD=passrec&FLD=town&FLD=tmanifest&FLD=smanifest&FLD=yob&FLD=image&\
FLD=annotations&SRT=name&DIRECTION=asc

--- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "Deborah" <dljillustrations@...> wrote:
>
>
> --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "t.salony" <t.salony@> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Deborah,
> > [ pssst....what was your grandfather's given name?  lol ]
> >
> > >>> "...but I finally found him..." <<<
> >  Does this mean you found his arrival manifest? >
> > >>> "... he was born out of wedlock in 1982..." <<<
> >  Is "1982" a typo = should have been 1882", OR a transposition =
> should have been "1892"?
> >
> > *** Are you familiar with St. Clair, Pa as destination for any of the
> family? For example:
> >  CZUTIK, Jakob, 18 y.o., leaving his grandmother, Anna Czutik, in
> Klubin, arriving Apr.18, 1911 to stepfather, Josef ?Harsava? in St.
> Clair, Pa
> >>>>Yes, I did transpose that number... it should have been 1892 !!! I
> am so glad that was caught!!!   And yes, after ten years of  searching,
> I did find the manifest and it was the same one you mentioned.  I have
> found the Birth/ Baptismal records for him, Jacobus Csutek, and his
> mother, aunts, uncles, and grandparents.
> When Anna came to America, she shortly married Joseph Warsava and lived
> in St Clair, PA. I cannot find the marriage certificate anywhere, and I
> finally found their census in St Clair in 1900 and 1910 ( the 1900's
> census, the name was pretty illegible, but everthing else fit) They had
> a large family there.  The name Warsava was changed several  times.
> Warshour  Varshour, Warshaeva, Warshous, were altenate spellings on the
> names of their children's marriage liscensces. I have not yet found all
> of these children. And I have found no records for Annie. the present
> families have no photos of her<<<<
>
> >
> http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup_weif_5a.asp?src=%2Fcgi-bin%2Ftif\
> 2gif.exe%3FT%3D\\\\192.168.100.11\\images\\T715-1662\\T715-16620941.TIF%\
> 26S%3D.5&pID=101109080309&name=Giovanni%26nbsp%3BCosta&doa=Apr+18%2C+191\
> 1&port=Genova&line=0012
> >
> >  By concentrating your questioning in the old country, you make it
> difficult for anyone to help you find info/clues still available in the
> new country. :)
> >>>>I am sorry about not giving enough info on present day Families.
> Annie had at least 7 siblings.  Maria, Andreas  Josephus, Appolonia,
> John, Catharina and Steve . We know that Maria married a Paul
> Cziko,(Sr.) and their son, Paul (Jr) came to America and changed the
> spelling to Chiko.  They lived in the Belmont county/Pease county area
> of Ohio.  After living shortly in St Clair, Jacob, my grandfather moved
> to this area living by  his cousin Paul, his Uncle John and his Uncle
> Steve in Lansing/Bridgeport Ohio. Later John and Steve would change
> thier name to Shudic, While my grandfather spelled it Shutek. We do not
> know what happened to his Uncle Andreas, or Josephus, or his Aunt
> Appolonia.  We know that Catherina and Steve came together to St Clair
> and their contacts were the Warsawa's, but although Steve moved to Ohio,
> We do not know what happened to Catherina after she came here. I did not
> think anybody would have been interested in these facts but if these
> help with finding more about him, I am glad to share!
> Thank you SO much on your help, it is much appreciated!!!<<<<
>
> >
> >
> > TOM
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "Deborah" dljillustrations@
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks to everybody for all their help with materials to help me
> find
> > > some of my Grandfathers family.  The name was mangled on the
> documents
> > > but I finally found him after years of hitting my head on a  brick
> wall.
> > > They came from Klubina, Trencin district, and the original spelling
> was
> > > Csutek.  they were a VERY large family there so I have a lot of
> putting
> > > together to do.
> > > My grandfathers mother was Anna Csutek  he was born out of wedlock
> in
> > > 1982  and for an unknown reason as of yet, she left him shortly
> after in
> > > his grandparents care While she went to America.  I cannot find her
> > > manifest yet.  His grandparents were Georgeus Csutek and Anna
> Kaluszny.
> > > He didn't come to America until he was 19.  He never talked about
> the
> > > old country, so I am just now finding much of this out.
> > > It seems there are still a lot of Csutek's in Stara Bystrica nearby.
> If
> > > there is anybody who can tell me more about Trencin county, Klubina,
> > > Stara Bystrica or the name Csutek (and variations) or Kaluszny (
> > > Kausney, Kaluzney, etc)  I would be SO grateful.
> > > I think I am finally getting the hang of genealogy,  And it just
> makes
> > > me want to learn more.
> > > Thank you SO much!
> > > Deborah
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Bob,
     The names Kuzuchov has been known by through out its history.
1077 Kožuchov TV/KI zemplín.
1773 Kazsu, Kozukow, 1786 Kaza, Kahn [!], 1808 Kazsu, Kožukow, Kožuchow,
1863–1902 Kazsu, 1907–1913 Kazsó, 1920– Kožuchov

     Here is a link that will tell you about Kozuchov -
http://www.cisarik.com/0_Kozuchov_Trebisov_KI_Zemplen_Zemplin.html
     I have been very near Kozuchov. My cousin was the head priest at the
Catholic cathedral in Trebisov, which is 4 miles away. I visited him there three
times.
     The surname Sugar is no longer listed there.

From: MGMojher
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 9:12 AM
To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [S-R] Janos Sugar


Bob,
The easiest means is for you to send us the link to page you want to be
translated. Or post here.

For your information here is a link where you can view the results of the
surname Sugar during the 1995 Slovak Census -
http://slovniky.korpus.sk/?w=Sugar&c=Qdb4
SUGÁR, ŠUGÁR and ŠUGAR are the three spellings for the surname. After the
surname are two numbers; the first is the number for the name and the second is
for the number of locations it was found.
Next comes the “top 10”locations for the surname. The town name followed by
the “okr”- okres/district. There can be “obec/city ...” when the
location is a neighborhood in a city.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cf/Okresy97_Slovakia.svg/2\
000px-Okresy97_Slovakia.svg.png This is a link to the map of the okres/districts
of Slovakia. They are placed in a color coded area of the kraj/regions. You will
see that the distribution of the Sugar name has concentrations in certain kraj.
From: voony3
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:15 PM
To: mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: [S-R] Janos Sugar

I have located the baptismal cert for my wifes g'father but cannot read slovak
so the column headings and the info in the columns are not readable to me.I
found it on the LDS search site. his name is Janos Sugar born in Slovakia nov 27
1875 baptised dec 1, 1875. His mother is Maria, but there is no father listed.
Can anyone help with the translations of the columns and there data? I have
downloaded a copy of the cert that I can send if needed.

Bob

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 
The surname SUGAR is Jewish.  Hope that helps.
 
 
Caye
 

From: MGMojher <mgmojher@...>
To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: [S-R] Janos Sugar

 
Bob,
The names Kuzuchov has been known by through out its history.
1077 Kožuchov TV/KI zemplín.
1773 Kazsu, Kozukow, 1786 Kaza, Kahn [!], 1808 Kazsu, Kožukow, Kožuchow,
1863–1902 Kazsu, 1907–1913 Kazsó, 1920– Kožuchov

Here is a link that will tell you about Kozuchov -
http://www.cisarik.com/0_Kozuchov_Trebisov_KI_Zemplen_Zemplin.html
I have been very near Kozuchov. My cousin was the head priest at the Catholic
cathedral in Trebisov, which is 4 miles away. I visited him there three times.
The surname Sugar is no longer listed there.

From: MGMojher
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 9:12 AM
To: mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [S-R] Janos Sugar

Bob,
The easiest means is for you to send us the link to page you want to be
translated. Or post here.

For your information here is a link where you can view the results of the
surname Sugar during the 1995 Slovak Census -
http://slovniky.korpus.sk/?w=Sugar&c=Qdb4
SUGÁR, ŠUGÁR and ŠUGAR are the three spellings for the surname. After the
surname are two numbers; the first is the number for the name and the second is
for the number of locations it was found.
Next comes the “top 10”locations for the surname. The town name followed by
the “okr”- okres/district. There can be “obec/city ...” when the
location is a neighborhood in a city.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cf/Okresy97_Slovakia.svg/2\
000px-Okresy97_Slovakia.svg.png This is a link to the map of the okres/districts
of Slovakia. They are placed in a color coded area of the kraj/regions. You will
see that the distribution of the Sugar name has concentrations in certain kraj.
From: voony3
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:15 PM
To: mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: [S-R] Janos Sugar

I have located the baptismal cert for my wifes g'father but cannot read slovak
so the column headings and the info in the columns are not readable to me.I
found it on the LDS search site. his name is Janos Sugar born in Slovakia nov 27
1875 baptised dec 1, 1875. His mother is Maria, but there is no father listed.
Can anyone help with the translations of the columns and there data? I have
downloaded a copy of the cert that I can send if needed.

Bob

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Caye,
The baptism record for Janos Sugar was from a Greek Catholic Church.
CK

--- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, Caye Caswick <ccaswick@...> wrote:
>
>  
> The surname SUGAR is Jewish.  Hope that helps.
>  
>  
> Caye
>  
>
> From: MGMojher <mgmojher@...>
> To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 2:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [S-R] Janos Sugar
>
>  
> Bob,
> The names Kuzuchov has been known by through out its history.
> 1077 Kožuchov TV/KI zemplín.
> 1773 Kazsu, Kozukow, 1786 Kaza, Kahn [!], 1808 Kazsu, Kožukow, Kožuchow,
1863�"1902 Kazsu, 1907�"1913 Kazsó, 1920�" Kožuchov
>
> Here is a link that will tell you about Kozuchov -
http://www.cisarik.com/0_Kozuchov_Trebisov_KI_Zemplen_Zemplin.html
> I have been very near Kozuchov. My cousin was the head priest at the Catholic
cathedral in Trebisov, which is 4 miles away. I visited him there three times.
> The surname Sugar is no longer listed there.
>
> From: MGMojher
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 9:12 AM
> To: mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [S-R] Janos Sugar
>
> Bob,
> The easiest means is for you to send us the link to page you want to be
translated. Or post here.
>
> For your information here is a link where you can view the results of the
surname Sugar during the 1995 Slovak Census -
http://slovniky.korpus.sk/?w=Sugar&c=Qdb4
> SUGÁR, ŠUGÁR and ŠUGAR are the three spellings for the surname. After the
surname are two numbers; the first is the number for the name and the second is
for the number of locations it was found.
> Next comes the “top 10”locations for the surname. The town name followed
by the “okr”- okres/district. There can be “obec/city ...” when the
location is a neighborhood in a city.
>
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cf/Okresy97_Slovakia.svg/2\
000px-Okresy97_Slovakia.svg.png This is a link to the map of the okres/districts
of Slovakia. They are placed in a color coded area of the kraj/regions. You will
see that the distribution of the Sugar name has concentrations in certain kraj.
> From: voony3
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:15 PM
> To: mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [S-R] Janos Sugar
>
> I have located the baptismal cert for my wifes g'father but cannot read slovak
so the column headings and the info in the columns are not readable to me.I
found it on the LDS search site. his name is Janos Sugar born in Slovakia nov 27
1875 baptised dec 1, 1875. His mother is Maria, but there is no father listed.
Can anyone help with the translations of the columns and there data? I have
downloaded a copy of the cert that I can send if needed.
>
> Bob
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

St. Clair is not in the Pittsburg Diocese.  Belive it is in the  Allentown
Diocese.


In a message dated 2/28/2013 9:26:14 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
hogelj@... writes:






Were they Roman Catholic?
If so, and they were married in the  U.S. and lived in St. Clair, Pa., then
there is a good possibility that you  may be able to obtain marriage
information (not a marriage certificate, but a  transcription of what is
recorded
in the sacramental records) from the Diocese  of Pittsburgh Archives Center.
Below is a link to their web page regarding  requesting a search for
genealogy relevant records:
_http://diopitt.org/office-archives-and-record-center/information-genealogis
ts_
(http://diopitt.org/office-archives-and-record-center/information-genealogists)
Though not Joseph's marriage, this may be of interest to you:
Marriage  of Anna Warshowa & John Kurtz found on FamilySearch under
Pennsylvania,  County Marriages, 1885-1950.

--- In _SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com)
,  "Deborah" wrote:
>
>
> --- In _SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com_
(mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com) ,  "t.salony" wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
>  >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  Deborah,
> > [ pssst....what was your grandfather's given name? lol  ]
> >
> > >>> "...but I finally found him..."  <<<
> > Does this mean you found his arrival manifest?  >
> > >>> "... he was born out of wedlock in 1982..."  <<<
> > Is "1982" a typo = should have been 1882", OR a  transposition =
> should have been "1892"?
> >
> > ***  Are you familiar with St. Clair, Pa as destination for any of the
>  family? For example:
> > CZUTIK, Jakob, 18 y.o., leaving his  grandmother, Anna Czutik, in
> Klubin, arriving Apr.18, 1911 to  stepfather, Josef ?Harsava? in St.
> Clair, Pa
>  >>>>Yes, I did transpose that number... it should have been 1892  !!! I
> am so glad that was caught!!! And yes, after ten years of  searching,
> I did find the manifest and it was the same one you  mentioned. I have
> found the Birth/ Baptismal records for him, Jacobus  Csutek, and his
> mother, aunts, uncles, and grandparents.
> When  Anna came to America, she shortly married Joseph Warsava and lived
> in  St Clair, PA. I cannot find the marriage certificate anywhere, and I
>  finally found their census in St Clair in 1900 and 1910 ( the 1900's
>  census, the name was pretty illegible, but everthing else fit) They  had
> a large family there. The name Warsava was changed several times.
> Warshour Varshour, Warshaeva, Warshous, were altenate spellings on  the
> names of their children's marriage liscensces. I have not yet  found all
> of these children. And I have found no records for Annie.  the present
> families have no photos of her<<<<
>
> >
> _http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup_weif_5a.asp?src=%2Fcgi-bin%2Ftif\
_ (http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup_weif_5a.asp?src=/cgi-bin/tif) >
2gif.exe%3FT%3D\\\\192.168.100.11\\images\\T715-1662\\T715-16620941.TIF%\
>  26S%3D.5&pID=101109080309&name=Giovanni%26nbsp%3BCosta&doa=Apr+18%2C+191\
>  1&port=Genova&line=0012
> >
> > By concentrating  your questioning in the old country, you make it
> difficult for anyone  to help you find info/clues still available in the
> new country.  :)
> >>>>I am sorry about not giving enough info on present  day Families.
> Annie had at least 7 siblings. Maria, Andreas Josephus,  Appolonia,
> John, Catharina and Steve . We know that Maria married a  Paul
> Cziko,(Sr.) and their son, Paul (Jr) came to America and changed  the
> spelling to Chiko. They lived in the Belmont county/Pease county  area
> of Ohio. After living shortly in St Clair, Jacob, my grandfather  moved
> to this area living by his cousin Paul, his Uncle John and his  Uncle
> Steve in Lansing/Bridgeport Ohio. Later John and Steve would  change
> thier name to Shudic, While my grandfather spelled it Shutek.  We do not
> know what happened to his Uncle Andreas, or Josephus, or his  Aunt
> Appolonia. We know that Catherina and Steve came together to St  Clair
> and their contacts were the Warsawa's, but although Steve moved  to Ohio,
> We do not know what happened to Catherina after she came  here. I did not
> think anybody would have been interested in these  facts but if these
> help with finding more about him, I am glad to  share!
> Thank you SO much on your help, it is much  appreciated!!!<<<<
>
> >
> >
> >  TOM
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In _SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com_
(mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com) ,  "Deborah" dljillustrations@
> wrote:
> > >
> > >  Thanks to everybody for all their help with materials to help me
>  find
> > > some of my Grandfathers family. The name was mangled on  the
> documents
> > > but I finally found him after years of  hitting my head on a brick
> wall.
> > > They came from  Klubina, Trencin district, and the original spelling
> was
> >  > Csutek. they were a VERY large family there so I have a lot of
>  putting
> > > together to do.
> > > My grandfathers  mother was Anna Csutek he was born out of wedlock
> in
> > >  1982 and for an unknown reason as of yet, she left him shortly
> after  in
> > > his grandparents care While she went to America. I cannot  find her
> > > manifest yet. His grandparents were Georgeus Csutek  and Anna
> Kaluszny.
> > > He didn't come to America until  he was 19. He never talked about
> the
> > > old country, so  I am just now finding much of this out.
> > > It seems there are  still a lot of Csutek's in Stara Bystrica nearby.
> If
> > >  there is anybody who can tell me more about Trencin county, Klubina,
>  > > Stara Bystrica or the name Csutek (and variations) or Kaluszny  (
> > > Kausney, Kaluzney, etc) I would be SO grateful.
>  > > I think I am finally getting the hang of genealogy, And it   just
> makes
> > > me want to learn more.
> > >  Thank you SO much!
> > > Deborah
> > >
> >  >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions  of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been  removed]
>






[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Judy,

St. Clair is in Schuylkill County, PA.  You can access county records by going
to www.co.schuylkill.pa.us/info  then on the right of the page, click on
Marriage Docket Information.  You will be able to type in the names of the bride
and groom.  If a record exists, it will show up.  The you can call the
courthouse and request a copy.  I found my great-grandparents marriage record
this way.  Cost is very reasonable.

I did try to type in several of the spellings you suggested and didn't find
anything.  However, this is a good source of information to have and perhaps you
can try other spelling variations and find what you are looking for.

Good luck!

Martha

--- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "Judy" <hogelj@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Were they Roman Catholic?
> If so, and they were married in the U.S. and lived in St. Clair, Pa., then
there is a good possibility that you may be able to obtain marriage information
(not a marriage certificate, but a transcription of what is recorded in the
sacramental records) from the Diocese of Pittsburgh Archives Center. Below is a
link to their web page regarding requesting a search for genealogy relevant
records:
> http://diopitt.org/office-archives-and-record-center/information-genealogists
> Though not Joseph's marriage, this may be of interest to you:
> Marriage of Anna Warshowa & John Kurtz found on FamilySearch under
Pennsylvania, County Marriages, 1885-1950.
>
>
> --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "Deborah" <dljillustrations@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "t.salony" <t.salony@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Deborah,
> > > [ pssst....what was your grandfather's given name?  lol ]
> > >
> > > >>> "...but I finally found him..." <<<
> > >  Does this mean you found his arrival manifest? >
> > > >>> "... he was born out of wedlock in 1982..." <<<
> > >  Is "1982" a typo = should have been 1882", OR a transposition =
> > should have been "1892"?
> > >
> > > *** Are you familiar with St. Clair, Pa as destination for any of the
> > family? For example:
> > >  CZUTIK, Jakob, 18 y.o., leaving his grandmother, Anna Czutik, in
> > Klubin, arriving Apr.18, 1911 to stepfather, Josef ?Harsava? in St.
> > Clair, Pa
> > >>>>Yes, I did transpose that number... it should have been 1892 !!! I
> > am so glad that was caught!!!   And yes, after ten years of  searching,
> > I did find the manifest and it was the same one you mentioned.  I have
> > found the Birth/ Baptismal records for him, Jacobus Csutek, and his
> > mother, aunts, uncles, and grandparents.
> > When Anna came to America, she shortly married Joseph Warsava and lived
> > in St Clair, PA. I cannot find the marriage certificate anywhere, and I
> > finally found their census in St Clair in 1900 and 1910 ( the 1900's
> > census, the name was pretty illegible, but everthing else fit) They had
> > a large family there.  The name Warsava was changed several  times.
> > Warshour  Varshour, Warshaeva, Warshous, were altenate spellings on the
> > names of their children's marriage liscensces. I have not yet found all
> > of these children. And I have found no records for Annie. the present
> > families have no photos of her<<<<
> >
> > >
> > http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup_weif_5a.asp?src=%2Fcgi-bin%2Ftif\
> > 2gif.exe%3FT%3D\\\\192.168.100.11\\images\\T715-1662\\T715-16620941.TIF%\
> > 26S%3D.5&pID=101109080309&name=Giovanni%26nbsp%3BCosta&doa=Apr+18%2C+191\
> > 1&port=Genova&line=0012
> > >
> > >  By concentrating your questioning in the old country, you make it
> > difficult for anyone to help you find info/clues still available in the
> > new country. :)
> > >>>>I am sorry about not giving enough info on present day Families.
> > Annie had at least 7 siblings.  Maria, Andreas  Josephus, Appolonia,
> > John, Catharina and Steve . We know that Maria married a Paul
> > Cziko,(Sr.) and their son, Paul (Jr) came to America and changed the
> > spelling to Chiko.  They lived in the Belmont county/Pease county area
> > of Ohio.  After living shortly in St Clair, Jacob, my grandfather moved
> > to this area living by  his cousin Paul, his Uncle John and his Uncle
> > Steve in Lansing/Bridgeport Ohio. Later John and Steve would change
> > thier name to Shudic, While my grandfather spelled it Shutek. We do not
> > know what happened to his Uncle Andreas, or Josephus, or his Aunt
> > Appolonia.  We know that Catherina and Steve came together to St Clair
> > and their contacts were the Warsawa's, but although Steve moved to Ohio,
> > We do not know what happened to Catherina after she came here. I did not
> > think anybody would have been interested in these facts but if these
> > help with finding more about him, I am glad to share!
> > Thank you SO much on your help, it is much appreciated!!!<<<<
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > TOM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "Deborah" dljillustrations@
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks to everybody for all their help with materials to help me
> > find
> > > > some of my Grandfathers family.  The name was mangled on the
> > documents
> > > > but I finally found him after years of hitting my head on a  brick
> > wall.
> > > > They came from Klubina, Trencin district, and the original spelling
> > was
> > > > Csutek.  they were a VERY large family there so I have a lot of
> > putting
> > > > together to do.
> > > > My grandfathers mother was Anna Csutek  he was born out of wedlock
> > in
> > > > 1982  and for an unknown reason as of yet, she left him shortly
> > after in
> > > > his grandparents care While she went to America.  I cannot find her
> > > > manifest yet.  His grandparents were Georgeus Csutek and Anna
> > Kaluszny.
> > > > He didn't come to America until he was 19.  He never talked about
> > the
> > > > old country, so I am just now finding much of this out.
> > > > It seems there are still a lot of Csutek's in Stara Bystrica nearby.
> > If
> > > > there is anybody who can tell me more about Trencin county, Klubina,
> > > > Stara Bystrica or the name Csutek (and variations) or Kaluszny (
> > > > Kausney, Kaluzney, etc)  I would be SO grateful.
> > > > I think I am finally getting the hang of genealogy,  And it just
> > makes
> > > > me want to learn more.
> > > > Thank you SO much!
> > > > Deborah
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

I am�must apologize�to those of you�who tried to�help me find the village
Stutnick. My friend gave me the village name but after checking with her brother
she came back with Rochovce. I don't see any resemblance to the names but I will
go with the brother and try to get more information from him.

I did find two possibilities, Rochovce in eastern Slovakia and Kohovce in
south-west Slovakia. As the second is closer to Piestany, I will start there.
Thank you all for your help this time and all the times in the past. I started
my genealogical search�knowing nothing and in the fall we will be going to
Slovakia to visit a cousin I found in Senica. I also put together a book with
the help of Ancestry of my grandfather's life and am now working on a book of
�my grandmother's life. Not to bad in the last seven years.

Thanks Again,
Joanne Liston

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Enjoy the trip. I am up to seven visits as a direct result of the hobby and they
want me to come again, perhaps later this year.

--- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, ROBERT LISTON <bojomo@...> wrote:
>
> I am�must apologize�to those of you�who tried to�help me find the village
> Stutnick. My friend gave me the village name but after checking with her
brother
> she came back with Rochovce. I don't see any resemblance to the names but I
will
> go with the brother and try to get more information from him.
>
> I did find two possibilities, Rochovce in eastern Slovakia and Kohovce in
> south-west Slovakia. As the second is closer to Piestany, I will start there.
> Thank you all for your help this time and all the times in the past. I started
> my genealogical search�knowing nothing and in the fall we will be going to
> Slovakia to visit a cousin I found in Senica. I also put together a book with
> the help of Ancestry of my grandfather's life and am now working on a book of
> �my grandmother's life. Not to bad in the last seven years.
>
> Thanks Again,
> Joanne Liston
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I want to thank all of you for the quick response on my post about Janos
Sugar. carl has translated the file and has given me a film number to
follow up on. this has been a great find for my wifes family , I now need
to get the film and do some digging. I am amazed at all tha info the LDS
has and will now spend time learning the proceedures ry in Germany


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Wow! "t.salony"  that was exactly him to the correct birth date in the Slovak
Baptism records!  I am SO grateful for your help.  That is incredible.  He was a
locksmith?  hmmmm.  I wonder how that fit in with his younger brothers being
laborers.  And to know that he was here in 1890 1893 fits in because that was
when Anna came over (appr 1893) She more than likely came with Joseph as her
contact.  And his younger brother Steven most likely would be his contact when
he came a second time.Very interesting. It says he was married, but now I have
no idea who his wife and children were were or whether they lived in the States
or Klubina.  next mystery for me to solve. :)

Deborah

--- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "t.salony" <t.salony@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>  Deborah,
>
> >>> "We do not
> know what happened to his Uncle Andreas, or Josephus, or his Aunt
> Appolonia. <<<
>
>  May have found "Josephus":
>
> CSUTTEK, Jozsef (36 y.o. married locksmith)from Kubina, arriving Aug 16, 1899
going to brother in St. Clair, Pa and *** had been here "90/3" - 4 years ( which
I interpret to be 1890-1893? ). Totally unable to make out the name of the town,
even after comparing all present-day places in Schuylkill County:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Clair,_Pennsylvania
>
> Link to the record(hopefully)
:http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/EIDB/engine/gold.php?uid=1361993278922136199\
3303496&referrer=httpstevemorse.orgellis2ellisgold.html&mode=running&time=136208\
1313316&arrivalPort=ellisgold&firstkind=close&FNM=&kind=close&LNM=Csuttek&compan\
ionkind=close&CNM=&townkind=close&town=kubina&SHP=&prtkind=close&PRT=&SYR=&EYR=&\
MONTH=&DAY=&SAGE=&EAGE=&offset=1&MRTL=&BSYR=&BEYR=&pagesize=50&CGD=&FLD=name&FLD\
=yoa&FLD=age&FLD=passrec&FLD=town&FLD=tmanifest&FLD=smanifest&FLD=yob&FLD=image&\
FLD=annotations&SRT=name&DIRECTION=asc
>
> --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "Deborah" <dljillustrations@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "t.salony" <t.salony@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Deborah,
> > > [ pssst....what was your grandfather's given name?  lol ]
> > >
> > > >>> "...but I finally found him..." <<<
> > >  Does this mean you found his arrival manifest? >
> > > >>> "... he was born out of wedlock in 1982..." <<<
> > >  Is "1982" a typo = should have been 1882", OR a transposition =
> > should have been "1892"?
> > >
> > > *** Are you familiar with St. Clair, Pa as destination for any of the
> > family? For example:
> > >  CZUTIK, Jakob, 18 y.o., leaving his grandmother, Anna Czutik, in
> > Klubin, arriving Apr.18, 1911 to stepfather, Josef ?Harsava? in St.
> > Clair, Pa
> > >>>>Yes, I did transpose that number... it should have been 1892 !!! I
> > am so glad that was caught!!!   And yes, after ten years of  searching,
> > I did find the manifest and it was the same one you mentioned.  I have
> > found the Birth/ Baptismal records for him, Jacobus Csutek, and his
> > mother, aunts, uncles, and grandparents.
> > When Anna came to America, she shortly married Joseph Warsava and lived
> > in St Clair, PA. I cannot find the marriage certificate anywhere, and I
> > finally found their census in St Clair in 1900 and 1910 ( the 1900's
> > census, the name was pretty illegible, but everthing else fit) They had
> > a large family there.  The name Warsava was changed several  times.
> > Warshour  Varshour, Warshaeva, Warshous, were altenate spellings on the
> > names of their children's marriage liscensces. I have not yet found all
> > of these children. And I have found no records for Annie. the present
> > families have no photos of her<<<<
> >
> > >
> > http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup_weif_5a.asp?src=%2Fcgi-bin%2Ftif\
> > 2gif.exe%3FT%3D\\\\192.168.100.11\\images\\T715-1662\\T715-16620941.TIF%\
> > 26S%3D.5&pID=101109080309&name=Giovanni%26nbsp%3BCosta&doa=Apr+18%2C+191\
> > 1&port=Genova&line=0012
> > >
> > >  By concentrating your questioning in the old country, you make it
> > difficult for anyone to help you find info/clues still available in the
> > new country. :)
> > >>>>I am sorry about not giving enough info on present day Families.
> > Annie had at least 7 siblings.  Maria, Andreas  Josephus, Appolonia,
> > John, Catharina and Steve . We know that Maria married a Paul
> > Cziko,(Sr.) and their son, Paul (Jr) came to America and changed the
> > spelling to Chiko.  They lived in the Belmont county/Pease county area
> > of Ohio.  After living shortly in St Clair, Jacob, my grandfather moved
> > to this area living by  his cousin Paul, his Uncle John and his Uncle
> > Steve in Lansing/Bridgeport Ohio. Later John and Steve would change
> > thier name to Shudic, While my grandfather spelled it Shutek. We do not
> > know what happened to his Uncle Andreas, or Josephus, or his Aunt
> > Appolonia.  We know that Catherina and Steve came together to St Clair
> > and their contacts were the Warsawa's, but although Steve moved to Ohio,
> > We do not know what happened to Catherina after she came here. I did not
> > think anybody would have been interested in these facts but if these
> > help with finding more about him, I am glad to share!
> > Thank you SO much on your help, it is much appreciated!!!<<<<
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > TOM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "Deborah" dljillustrations@
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks to everybody for all their help with materials to help me
> > find
> > > > some of my Grandfathers family.  The name was mangled on the
> > documents
> > > > but I finally found him after years of hitting my head on a  brick
> > wall.
> > > > They came from Klubina, Trencin district, and the original spelling
> > was
> > > > Csutek.  they were a VERY large family there so I have a lot of
> > putting
> > > > together to do.
> > > > My grandfathers mother was Anna Csutek  he was born out of wedlock
> > in
> > > > 1982  and for an unknown reason as of yet, she left him shortly
> > after in
> > > > his grandparents care While she went to America.  I cannot find her
> > > > manifest yet.  His grandparents were Georgeus Csutek and Anna
> > Kaluszny.
> > > > He didn't come to America until he was 19.  He never talked about
> > the
> > > > old country, so I am just now finding much of this out.
> > > > It seems there are still a lot of Csutek's in Stara Bystrica nearby.
> > If
> > > > there is anybody who can tell me more about Trencin county, Klubina,
> > > > Stara Bystrica or the name Csutek (and variations) or Kaluszny (
> > > > Kausney, Kaluzney, etc)  I would be SO grateful.
> > > > I think I am finally getting the hang of genealogy,  And it just
> > makes
> > > > me want to learn more.
> > > > Thank you SO much!
> > > > Deborah
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

 
Great, glad you found it. 
 

From: Carl <carl.kotlarchik@...>
To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: [S-R] Janos Sugar

 
Caye,
The baptism record for Janos Sugar was from a Greek Catholic Church.
CK

--- In mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com, Caye Caswick wrote:
>
>  
> The surname SUGAR is Jewish.  Hope that helps.
>  
>  
> Caye
>  
>
> From: MGMojher
> To: mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 2:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [S-R] Janos Sugar
>
>  
> Bob,
> The names Kuzuchov has been known by through out its history.
> 1077 Kožuchov TV/KI zemplín.
> 1773 Kazsu, Kozukow, 1786 Kaza, Kahn [!], 1808 Kazsu, Kožukow, Kožuchow,
1863â€"1902 Kazsu, 1907â€"1913 Kazsó, 1920â€" Kožuchov
>
> Here is a link that will tell you about Kozuchov -
http://www.cisarik.com/0_Kozuchov_Trebisov_KI_Zemplen_Zemplin.html
> I have been very near Kozuchov. My cousin was the head priest at the Catholic
cathedral in Trebisov, which is 4 miles away. I visited him there three times.
> The surname Sugar is no longer listed there.
>
> From: MGMojher
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 9:12 AM
> To: mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [S-R] Janos Sugar
>
> Bob,
> The easiest means is for you to send us the link to page you want to be
translated. Or post here.
>
> For your information here is a link where you can view the results of the
surname Sugar during the 1995 Slovak Census -
http://slovniky.korpus.sk/?w=Sugar&c=Qdb4
> SUG�R, ŠUG�R and ŠUGAR are the three spellings for the surname.
After the surname are two numbers; the first is the number for the name and the
second is for the number of locations it was found.
> Next comes the “top 10�locations for the surname. The town name
followed by the “okr�- okres/district. There can be
“obec/city ...� when the location is a neighborhood in a city.
>
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cf/Okresy97_Slovakia.svg/2\
000px-Okresy97_Slovakia.svg.png This is a link to the map of the okres/districts
of Slovakia. They are placed in a color coded area of the kraj/regions. You will
see that the distribution of the Sugar name has concentrations in certain kraj.
> From: voony3
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:15 PM
> To: mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [S-R] Janos Sugar
>
> I have located the baptismal cert for my wifes g'father but cannot read slovak
so the column headings and the info in the columns are not readable to me.I
found it on the LDS search site. his name is Janos Sugar born in Slovakia nov 27
1875 baptised dec 1, 1875. His mother is Maria, but there is no father listed.
Can anyone help with the translations of the columns and there data? I have
downloaded a copy of the cert that I can send if needed.
>
> Bob
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>




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Hello All,

In a previous recent post I found a possible ancestor or at least an
ancestral branch. He was Georgius Mraffko - otherwise Mraffkó György
There was enough information in his children's birth records to show that
he was of civic importance. - eg a lawyer and perhaps later a Lord in
Bratislava and afterwards in Budapest.
So I started looking and found mention of him at AdatbázisokOnline.
This only a catalogue entry, and gives me good hope of finding more about
him.

http://193.224.149.8/adatbazisokol/talalatok?keyword=Mraffk%C3%B3+Gy%C3%B6rgy
When you click through and read the notes in full, it states in part that
the information it could provide includes *(with reference to the nobility)
~ This is google translated:

1 / - to the conventional I-line, pre-and surname,
- Give the name of the wife of conventional,
- Names of descendants and their spouses,
- I give the conventional siblings and their spouses and descendants of
names
- Different surnamed relatives, or give their conventional peers and
spouses, descendants of names
2 / - deed of gift to the publisher's name,
- The place of publication,
- The date of issue,
- The type of donation,
3 / - to be announced at diploma,
- The time of publication,
4 / - donated land for the donated land title and department,
5 / - National Archives of symbols,
6 / - a reference to the classification number under the type of source,
7th / - a reference to the literature,
8 / - reference to the county town and the church - of authentication - for
archival classification number,
9 / - a reference to family relatives, associates or I-bar.

That's very detailed and could be a great resource. Sounds interesting and
it will be on my shopping list!

AdatbázisokOnline is a fast growing resource. About 6 months ago, they had
only digitized the 1715 and 1720 searchable tax records. Now, it contains
many collections and is easily reachable (Mon-Fridays, some weekends except
public holidays) at:

http://193.224.149.8/adatbazisokol/

Hungarian only. The site isn't too user friendly and would suit moderately
experienced database researchers.

Playing around with it, I also found a 1601 resource (product) census of
many villages and towns of principally Hapsberg controlled areas. You do
have to know the very early names of your town for the search to work
though. I had to use a neighbouring village name that didn't change too
much to bring my village name up.
Peter M.


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Cool utility for downloading records.....

Dennis

http://students.cs.byu.edu/~jbejaran/FastFilm/

Dennis, have you tried it out yourself? Just curious to hear what someone's
experience has been.

~ Julie Michutka
jmm@...

On Mar 3, 2013, at 8:54 AM, patskanovo wrote:

> Cool utility for downloading records.....
>
> Dennis
>
> http://students.cs.byu.edu/~jbejaran/FastFilm/
>

this is truly incredible, thank you for sharing it.


In a message dated 3/3/2013 10:22:34 A.M. Central Standard Time,
jmm@... writes:




Dennis, have you tried it out yourself? Just curious to hear what someone's
  experience has been.

~ Julie Michutka
_jmm@..._ (mailto:jmm@...)

On Mar 3,  2013, at 8:54 AM, patskanovo wrote:

> Cool utility for downloading  records.....
>
> Dennis
>
> _http://students.cs.byu.edu/~jbejaran/FastFilm/_
(http://students.cs.byu.edu/~jbejaran/FastFilm/)
>






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Julie,

No ,I have not tried it out yet. I intend to very soon...

Dennis
--- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, Julie Michutka <jmm@...> wrote:
>
> Dennis, have you tried it out yourself? Just curious to hear what someone's
experience has been.
>
> ~ Julie Michutka
> jmm@...
>
> On Mar 3, 2013, at 8:54 AM, patskanovo wrote:
>
> > Cool utility for downloading records.....
> >
> > Dennis
> >
> > http://students.cs.byu.edu/~jbejaran/FastFilm/
> >
>

John,

There is a very active thread on Ancestry that recently came alive since our
search....

Dennis

http://boards.ancestry.com/thread.aspx?o=30&m=380.1.1.3.3.2.1.3.1.1.1.1.1.1.2&p=\
localities.ceeurope.slovakia.bratislava

Dennis, great memory.

Our Zahorcak clan was from the area just east of Michalovce. It seems that the
current reference is much further west, if I understand correctly.

In other news, the ADAM clan elder will celebrate her 105th birthday on April 27
and we will be in Perryopolis, PA, to celebrate.

The folks in Slovakia keep asking about our next visit, which may be in the
fall.

All this came as a result of our genealogy hobby.

Best thing that I ever did!

--- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "patskanovo" <ddhalusker@...> wrote:
>
> John,
>
> There is a very active thread on Ancestry that recently came alive since our
search....
>
> Dennis
>
>
http://boards.ancestry.com/thread.aspx?o=30&m=380.1.1.3.3.2.1.3.1.1.1.1.1.1.2&p=\
localities.ceeurope.slovakia.bratislava
>

John...
I am glad to hear the wonderful news. 105 ? WOW!
It is indeed an interesting hobby.

Dennis

--- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "John" <johnqadam@...> wrote:
>
> Dennis, great memory.
>
> Our Zahorcak clan was from the area just east of Michalovce. It seems that the
current reference is much further west, if I understand correctly.
>
> In other news, the ADAM clan elder will celebrate her 105th birthday on April
27 and we will be in Perryopolis, PA, to celebrate.
>
> The folks in Slovakia keep asking about our next visit, which may be in the
fall.
>
> All this came as a result of our genealogy hobby.
>
> Best thing that I ever did!
>
> --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "patskanovo" <ddhalusker@> wrote:
> >
> > John,
> >
> > There is a very active thread on Ancestry that recently came alive since our
search....
> >
> > Dennis
> >
> >
http://boards.ancestry.com/thread.aspx?o=30&m=380.1.1.3.3.2.1.3.1.1.1.1.1.1.2&p=\
localities.ceeurope.slovakia.bratislava
> >
>

Has anyone looked at the records that are now on line for the 1869 Census of the
former Zemplen County.  They appear to be mislabeled.    I did not check all the
records listed for Zemplen but the ones that I did check were all for Saros
County and not for Zemplen.
CK

I checked the first ten (or so) listings and you are CORRECT. I have reported
this to LDS techies.

--- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "Carl" <carl.kotlarchik@...> wrote:
>
> Has anyone looked at the records that are now on line for the 1869 Census of
the former Zemplen County.  They appear to be mislabeled.    I did not check all
the records listed for Zemplen but the ones that I did check were all for Saros
County and not for Zemplen.
> CK
>

Hi One and All,

I was sent this message in response to my inquiry of where to get a certified
official copy of my grandfather's baptismal/birth record and great grandfather's
marriage record and was told to contact ocu-nacinaves@... and received
this message but don't know where to go from here.  Where and what is the
register they're talking about?  The wedding and baptismal both took place in
Puste-Cemerne but I was told to contact the above address??

Thanks for your help.

Parichat

Dobrý deň.
 
Obec Nacina Ves vedie matriky iba od roku 1950.
Mihaly Kis, narodený 6.11.1908 v Lesnom – jeho rodný list sa nachádza
v obci Trhovište okres Michalovce.
Sobášny list sa nachádza na matrike podľa toho kde bol sobáš.
 
S pozdravom
 
Anna Dubíková
matrikárka
 
Good day.
 
Village Nacina Ves leads registers only since 1950.
Mihaly Kis, born on 06.11.1908 in the Leszna, Hungary - his birth certificate is
located in the village Trhovište District of Michigan.
Marriage certificate is on the Register according to where the wedding.
 
Yours
 
Anna Dubíková
matrikářka


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----- Forwarded Message -----
From: Patricia Ehret <loqipei@...>
To: "SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com" <SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 5:45 PM
Subject: [S-R] What would be my next step?


 
Hi One and All,

I was sent this message in response to my inquiry of where to get a certified
official copy of my grandfather's baptismal/birth record and great grandfather's
marriage record and was told to contact ocu-nacinaves@... and received
this message but don't know where to go from here.  Where and what is the
register they're talking about?  The wedding and baptismal both took place in
Puste-Cemerne but I was told to contact the above address??

Thanks for your help.

Parichat

Dobrý deň.
 
Obec Nacina Ves vedie matriky iba od roku 1950.
Mihaly Kis, narodený 6.11.1908 v Lesnom – jeho rodný list sa nachádza
v obci Trhovište okres Michalovce.
Sobášny list sa nachádza na matrike podľa toho kde bol sobáš.
 
S pozdravom
 
Anna Dubíková
matrikárka
 
Good day.
 
Village Nacina Ves leads registers only since 1950.
Mihaly Kis, born on 06.11.1908 in the Leszna, Hungary - his birth certificate is
located in the village Trhovište District of Michigan.
Marriage certificate is on the Register according to where the wedding.
 
Yours
 
Anna Dubíková
matrikářka

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>My suggestion is to use a Slovak based genealogist. I used Vladimir
>Bohinc  email  konekta@...

I received many birth certificates and some marriage ones as well and
was extremely happy with results.



Regards
Nick

http://www.pinewalkpuertopollensa.com/pwpx/bntoectst/pauvacefwaxp/btpkf/lzt



  GeorgieYurco


3/7/2013 1:41:11 PM

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I was doing a search on the LDS on my family (Terek) and I noticed that the
Terek's had married into the Sugar family and vice versa at several times. This
was found in the Pcolina and Snina records from the Greek Catholic Church.

Natasha




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  From: Carl <carl.kotlarchik@...>
To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: [S-R] Janos Sugar


 
Caye,
The baptism record for Janos Sugar was from a Greek Catholic Church.
CK

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> The surname SUGAR is Jewish.  Hope that helps.
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> Caye
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> From: MGMojher
> To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 2:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [S-R] Janos Sugar
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> Bob,
> The names Kuzuchov has been known by through out its history.
> 1077 Kožuchov TV/KI zemplín.
> 1773 Kazsu, Kozukow, 1786 Kaza, Kahn [!], 1808 Kazsu, Kožukow, Kožuchow,
1863â€"1902 Kazsu, 1907â€"1913 Kazsó, 1920â€" Kožuchov
>
> Here is a link that will tell you about Kozuchov -
http://www.cisarik.com/0_Kozuchov_Trebisov_KI_Zemplen_Zemplin.html
> I have been very near Kozuchov. My cousin was the head priest at the Catholic
cathedral in Trebisov, which is 4 miles away. I visited him there three times.
> The surname Sugar is no longer listed there.
>
> From: MGMojher
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 9:12 AM
> To: mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [S-R] Janos Sugar
>
> Bob,
> The easiest means is for you to send us the link to page you want to be
translated. Or post here.
>
> For your information here is a link where you can view the results of the
surname Sugar during the 1995 Slovak Census -
http://slovniky.korpus.sk/?w=Sugar&c=Qdb4
> SUG�R, ŠUG�R and ŠUGAR are the three spellings for the surname.
After the surname are two numbers; the first is the number for the name and the
second is for the number of locations it was found.
> Next comes the “top 10�locations for the surname. The town name
followed by the “okr�- okres/district. There can be
“obec/city ...� when the location is a neighborhood in a city.
>
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cf/Okresy97_Slovakia.svg/2\
000px-Okresy97_Slovakia.svg.png This is a link to the map of the okres/districts
of Slovakia. They are placed in a color coded area of the kraj/regions. You will
see that the distribution of the Sugar name has concentrations in certain kraj.
> From: voony3
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:15 PM
> To: mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [S-R] Janos Sugar
>
> I have located the baptismal cert for my wifes g'father but cannot read slovak
so the column headings and the info in the columns are not readable to me.I
found it on the LDS search site. his name is Janos Sugar born in Slovakia nov 27
1875 baptised dec 1, 1875. His mother is Maria, but there is no father listed.
Can anyone help with the translations of the columns and there data? I have
downloaded a copy of the cert that I can send if needed.
>
> Bob
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Never before did I have "street view" available on Google Maps for my villages. 
I don't know exactly when this change happened, but the street view option is
now available for the main road (highway 51 and highway 590) and some side
streets into my villages allowing me get a pretty good view of what my villages
look like now.  Whith the close up viewer you can actually see the house numbers
if they face that street. Maybe some of you have always had this before, but it
is a wonderful change for me. Great for those of us who have not had the
opportunity to travel there in person.  If you did not have a "street view" of
your village before, maybe you have the addition now too.

When I visited eastern Slovakia a year or so ago, I used Michal Razus, and he
was excellent! He took me to every town/village/church my family was associated
with, and also recommended an affordable and delightful pensione. We met with
possible relatives, and he led me through the process for getting official
documents relating to my grandfather. Turns out he was actually 2years older
than the Ellis Island ship records showed! His contact info is:

michal.razus@...

Good luck,

Elaine P

On Mar 6, 2013, at 11:01 PM, Nick <nickh@...> wrote:

>
> >My suggestion is to use a Slovak based genealogist. I used Vladimir
> >Bohinc email konekta@...
>
> I received many birth certificates and some marriage ones as well and
> was extremely happy with results.
>
> Regards
> Nick
>
>


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Judy,
     My ancestral village, Hromos, was filmed by Google Earth in 5/2012. It has
been three years since I was there last. It was great to “drive” through the
village and see what is new.
     In the past we had an in-depth discussion about house numbers in Slovakia.
One has to take the numbers “with a grain of salt”, since the location with
the house number now can be way off from what it was during those 1800’s
records. The only way to know for sure is to go to the village/town City Hall
and see if they have a map that covers the years of the records.
     Also, the house that is on the lot today is more likely something new.
During the 1800’s the square log cabin style house was the standard.
Eventually, those were covered in plaster. I had the “romantic” view of
those log cabins when I got to Slovakia for the first time. The Mayor of Hromos
lived in one, so I asked him about them. He told me that they were usually
rebuilt every 50 years. He didn’t think any in Hromos was built before the
1950’s. Dry rot and termites were the biggest enemy of those log cabins.

From: Judy
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 6:03 PM
To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [S-R] New "Street Views" on Slovakia Google Maps now available


Never before did I have "street view" available on Google Maps for my villages.
I don't know exactly when this change happened, but the street view option is
now available for the main road (highway 51 and highway 590) and some side
streets into my villages allowing me get a pretty good view of what my villages
look like now. Whith the close up viewer you can actually see the house numbers
if they face that street. Maybe some of you have always had this before, but it
is a wonderful change for me. Great for those of us who have not had the
opportunity to travel there in person. If you did not have a "street view" of
your village before, maybe you have the addition now too.





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