Parichat,

Do you know the date and birth place?
The state vital records after 1906 are kept by the registry offices (in
Slovak Matričný úrad). In order to give you the relevant registry
office, I need to know the birth place and date, because the registry
districts (matričný obvod) changed from time to time.

Peter

Patricia Ehret wrote / napísal(a):
> Very good question!  I need a copy of birth record for civil & state
> citizenship purposes which must be official.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Parichat

Dear Patricia:

Are you any relation to a Howie Ehret that grew up on the west side of
Cleveland, Ohio?  He was a friend of mine when I was very young, but  he moved
away sometime when I was in grade school.

Best regards,

David

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Dear Peter,

Birthplace and date:  Leszna, Michalovce (NagyMihaly in Hungarian) Zemplen Co.,
Hungary now Lesne or Lesna, Michalovce, Zemplin Co., Slovakia.  Date:
 November 6th, 1908.  Baptism November 8th, 1908 at St. Nicholas Greek
Catholic Church in Puste-Cemerne, Michalovce, Zemplen Co.  Baptismal
certificate says Eparchy was Michalovce bottom has a Uzhorogod stamp which is
now part of Ukraine.

Thanks so much for your trouble!

Patricia


________________________________
  From: Peter Nagy <rndrnagy@...>
To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: [S-R] Re: Where to request official copy of baptismal record?


 
Parichat,

Do you know the date and birth place?
The state vital records after 1906 are kept by the registry offices (in
Slovak Matričný úrad). In order to give you the relevant registry
office, I need to know the birth place and date, because the registry
districts (matričný obvod) changed from time to time.

Peter

Patricia Ehret wrote / napísal(a):
> Very good question!  I need a copy of birth record for civil & state
> citizenship purposes which must be official.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Parichat




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Thanks Erin -

helene

--- On Thu, 2/21/13, Erin Valdes <erin.valdes@...> wrote:

> From: Erin Valdes <erin.valdes@...>
> Subject: Re: [S-R] Re: Karel Plicka's magnificent photos
> To: "SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com" <SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com>
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> was the best and spent a good part of his life traveling the
> Slovakia he loved and recording the people, their dress and
> their way of life (he was a Czech but like famed painter Jan
> Hala fell in love with Slovakia - it happens to so many of
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The seat of Registry office for Lesne is Nacina Ves
http://www.nacinaves.sk/-contact

Peter

Patricia Ehret wrote / napísal(a):
> Dear Peter,
>
> Birthplace and date:  Leszna, Michalovce (NagyMihaly in Hungarian)
> Zemplen Co., Hungary now Lesne or Lesna, Michalovce, Zemplin Co.,
> Slovakia.  Date:  November 6th, 1908.  Baptism November 8th, 1908 at
> St. Nicholas Greek Catholic Church in Puste-Cemerne, Michalovce,
> Zemplen Co.  Baptismal certificate says Eparchy was Michalovce bottom
> has a Uzhorogod stamp which is now part of Ukraine.
>
> Thanks so much for your trouble!
>
> Patricia

Hi everybody,
I'm new member here. I'm Slovak living in TN (new US citizen) and I love History
and Genealogy. Just finished my Genealogy in Trencin area.
I have to tell you guys: you are doing fantastic job! I'm amazed how many
information about Slovakia you have and were able to find and how good are you
in reading and understanding old Slovak/Hungarian record. You have to dill with
3 languages-Slovak, Latin and Hungarian. You even were able to recognize Karol
Plickas' pictures (I have more of them). Great !
Please, let me know if I can help somehow.
Zuzana (Susanna in Latin)


________________________________
  From: helene cincebeaux <helenezx@...>
To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: [S-R] Karel Plicka's magnificent photos

 

It is wonderful to share Karel Plicka's magnificent photos but please identify
the photographer - he was the best and spent a good part of his life traveling
the Slovakia he loved and recording the people, their dress and their way of
life (he was a Czech but like famed painter Jan Hala fell in love with Slovakia
- it happens to so many of us!)

There is a small museum devoted to Plicka and his magnificent work south of
Martin.

helene


          

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I have 1920 naturalization paperwork that identifies an Austria-Hungarian
village as what looks to me as "Nedecz".  The naturalization paperwork is at the
following link on Ancestry.

http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=2717&iid=31311_134376-00268&\
fn=Mihal+George&ln=Novak&st=r&ssrc=&pid=303963

I located the 1905 arrival ship manifest and the village name appears to be the
same as listed on the naturalization papers.  However, I think I have also found
him on 2 previous manifests with different villages which seem to read "Gabocz"
and "Casba"

Trying to use Google etc. I haven't been able to determine what any of these
village are.  Hoping that someone might be able to help me out.

Thanks in advance,
Judy

>>> I love History and Genealogy. Just finished my Genealogy in Trencin area.<<<

Zuzana, you are NEVER finished your genealogy!

Judy,
It is a village in the Trencin district. Its current name is Nededza. It is just
a few miles east of the city of Zilina.

Curt B.

--- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "Judy" <hogelj@...> wrote:
>
> I have 1920 naturalization paperwork that identifies an Austria-Hungarian
village as what looks to me as "Nedecz".  The naturalization paperwork is at the
following link on Ancestry.
>
>
http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=2717&iid=31311_134376-00268&\
fn=Mihal+George&ln=Novak&st=r&ssrc=&pid=303963
>
> I located the 1905 arrival ship manifest and the village name appears to be
the same as listed on the naturalization papers.  However, I think I have also
found him on 2 previous manifests with different villages which seem to read
"Gabocz" and "Casba"
>
> Trying to use Google etc. I haven't been able to determine what any of these
village are.  Hoping that someone might be able to help me out.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Judy
>

>>> village as what looks to me as "Nedecz".  .  .  However, I think I have also
found him on 2 previous manifests with different villages which seem to read
"Gabocz" and "Casba" <<<

OLD NAMES of the village(town):
1773 Nedecza, Nedeca, 1786 Nedecza, 1808 Nedecza, Nědeca, 1863�1902 Nedec,
1907�1913 V�gnedec, 1920� Nededza

Used the 1910 map of Trencsen Megye to locate Nedecz.

http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/trencsen.jpg

Nearby (1910) villages of Zsolna and Gbellan might be the other two.

OLD NAMES of the village(town):
1773 Gleblan, Glebany, 1786 Gleblan, Gbellani, 1808 Gbel�n, Gbelany, 1863,
1877�1895, 1902 Gbellan, 1873, 1898�1900 Gbell�n, 1907�1913 Egbel�ny, 1920�1973
Gbelany, 1973� Gbeľany

OLD NAMES of the village(town):
1773, 1786 Solna, Silein, �ilina, 1808 Zsolna, Solna, Sillein, �ilina, 1863�1913
Zsolna, 1920� �ilina

Judy,
Here is a possibility-
Nededza ZA/ZI trenč.
1773 Nedecza, Nedeca, 1786 Nedecza, 1808 Nedecza, Nědeca, 1863–1902 Nedec,
1907–1913 Vágnedec, 1920– Nededza

Nedec was used during the time period on the documents. It was in the Hungarian
county of Trencin.

Nedecz listings for Ellis Island:

       127 Novak, Mihaly Nedecz 18 1881 1899  view  view  view  view
       128 Novak, Mihaly Nedecz 49 1850 1899  view  view  view  view
       129 Novak, Mihaly Nedecz 19 1880 1899  view  view  view  view
       130 Novak, Vojtek Nedecz 44 1857 1901  view  view  view  view  v
       131 Nowak, Mihaly Nedecz, Hungary 20 1894 1914


From: Judy
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 11:23 AM
To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [S-R] Need help with a village name


I have 1920 naturalization paperwork that identifies an Austria-Hungarian
village as what looks to me as "Nedecz". The naturalization paperwork is at the
following link on Ancestry.

http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=2717&iid=31311_134376-00268&\
fn=Mihal+George&ln=Novak&st=r&ssrc=&pid=303963

I located the 1905 arrival ship manifest and the village name appears to be the
same as listed on the naturalization papers. However, I think I have also found
him on 2 previous manifests with different villages which seem to read "Gabocz"
and "Casba"

Trying to use Google etc. I haven't been able to determine what any of these
village are. Hoping that someone might be able to help me out.

Thanks in advance,
Judy





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Thanks Curt, John and Michael for your thoughts.  The Trencin locaton looks like
a great possibility.

Now with the direction you've given me, I've been looking through the
FamilySearch on line records trying to find the church records but after I
choose "Roman Catholic" I don't know which choices to make next.  I tried the
Trencin and Zelina records but I don't find Nedecz after that.  Using FHC place
search for "Nedecz" in Slovakia doesn't give me any help.

Michael, I see how you found the Micahel Novaks from Nedecz, but actually the
passenger lists I think are his are not any of those. On the passenger list that
is refered to in the naturalization papers the handwriting of first letter of
his last name does not look like an "N" unless you already know that is is, so
heaven know what it was interpreted to be.

If I can get to the church records and find him with the date of birth I have
then I'll know I have the right place.

Thank you all for your help.
--- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "MGMojher" <mgmojher@...> wrote:
>
> Judy,
> Here is a possibility-
> Nededza ZA/ZI trenč.
> 1773 Nedecza, Nedeca, 1786 Nedecza, 1808 Nedecza, Nědeca, 1863�"1902 Nedec,
1907�"1913 Vágnedec, 1920�" Nededza
>
> Nedec was used during the time period on the documents. It was in the
Hungarian county of Trencin.
>
> Nedecz listings for Ellis Island:
>
>       127 Novak, Mihaly Nedecz 18 1881 1899  view  view  view  view
>       128 Novak, Mihaly Nedecz 49 1850 1899  view  view  view  view
>       129 Novak, Mihaly Nedecz 19 1880 1899  view  view  view  view
>       130 Novak, Vojtek Nedecz 44 1857 1901  view  view  view  view  v
>       131 Nowak, Mihaly Nedecz, Hungary 20 1894 1914
>
>
> From: Judy
> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 11:23 AM
> To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [S-R] Need help with a village name
>
>
> I have 1920 naturalization paperwork that identifies an Austria-Hungarian
village as what looks to me as "Nedecz". The naturalization paperwork is at the
following link on Ancestry.
>
>
http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=2717&iid=31311_134376-00268&\
fn=Mihal+George&ln=Novak&st=r&ssrc=&pid=303963
>
> I located the 1905 arrival ship manifest and the village name appears to be
the same as listed on the naturalization papers. However, I think I have also
found him on 2 previous manifests with different villages which seem to read
"Gabocz" and "Casba"
>
> Trying to use Google etc. I haven't been able to determine what any of these
village are. Hoping that someone might be able to help me out.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Judy
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

>>> Now with the direction you've given me, I've been looking through the
FamilySearch on line records trying to find the church records but after I
choose "Roman Catholic" I don't know which choices to make next. <<<

Dvorak Gazetteer http://www.radixhub.com/radixhub/gazetteers/1877/trencsen.htm
says RC records are under Varna (old name).

Old LDS catalogue shows: Roman Catholic parish registers of baptisms, marriages,
and deaths for Var�n, Slovakia; formerly Varin-V�rna, Trencs�n, Hungary.

On new web site, path is RC / Zilina / Varin
https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/index#uri=https%3A%2F%2Ffamilysearch.o\
rg%2Frecords%2Fwaypoint%2FM99C-CM6%3A1836921250%3Fcc%3D1554443

Thanks so much John.

But now that I've searched the birth records for RC / Zilina / Varin for
1885-1892 (I have birthdates of 19 Aug 1888 on Naturalization and 25 Oct 1888 on
WW II Draft card) I don't find him.  Waiting on the U.S. church records that I
hope will have a location of birth/origin.



--- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "John" <johnqadam@...> wrote:
>
> >>> Now with the direction you've given me, I've been looking through the
FamilySearch on line records trying to find the church records but after I
choose "Roman Catholic" I don't know which choices to make next. <<<
>
> Dvorak Gazetteer http://www.radixhub.com/radixhub/gazetteers/1877/trencsen.htm
> says RC records are under Varna (old name).
>
> Old LDS catalogue shows: Roman Catholic parish registers of baptisms,
marriages, and deaths for Var�n, Slovakia; formerly Varin-V�rna, Trencs�n,
Hungary.
>
> On new web site, path is RC / Zilina / Varin
>
https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/index#uri=https%3A%2F%2Ffamilysearch.o\
rg%2Frecords%2Fwaypoint%2FM99C-CM6%3A1836921250%3Fcc%3D1554443
>

This topic has been picked up and carried much further on Slovak Spot at
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/slovak-spot/4qs9oQmCWUc

which is a "must read" for anyone wishing to follow this topic. The coverage of
the topic on this Forum has followed what I would classify as more "opinion" and
"observation" than scholarly research, so I certainly do recommend you look to
_Slovak Spot_ on Google Groups for a continuation of the topic.

Ron

Are the marriage records of Liptovska Luzna available on line

Thank you Peter!  I appreciate your help!

Patricia Ehret


________________________________
  From: Peter Nagy <rndrnagy@...>
To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: [S-R] Re: Where to request official copy of baptismal record?


 
Patricia,

The seat of Registry office for Lesne is Nacina Ves
http://www.nacinaves.sk/-contact

Peter

Patricia Ehret wrote / napísal(a):
> Dear Peter,
>
> Birthplace and date:  Leszna, Michalovce (NagyMihaly in Hungarian)
> Zemplen Co., Hungary now Lesne or Lesna, Michalovce, Zemplin Co.,
> Slovakia.  Date:  November 6th, 1908.  Baptism November 8th, 1908 at
> St. Nicholas Greek Catholic Church in Puste-Cemerne, Michalovce,
> Zemplen Co.  Baptismal certificate says Eparchy was Michalovce bottom
> has a Uzhorogod stamp which is now part of Ukraine.
>
> Thanks so much for your trouble!
>
> Patricia




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My husband possible is a distant relation but his Ehret family moved west 100
years ago.
So, sorry no connection but the funny thing is that my father-in-laws name is
Howell.

Patricia Ehret


________________________________
  From: "david1law@..." <david1law@...>
To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: [S-R] Re: Where to request official copy of baptismal record?


 
Dear Patricia:

Are you any relation to a Howie Ehret that grew up on the west side of
Cleveland, Ohio?  He was a friend of mine when I was very young, but  he moved
away sometime when I was in grade school.

Best regards,

David

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Thank you John!

Patricia Ehret


________________________________
  From: John <johnqadam@...>
To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 8:03 PM
Subject: [S-R] Re: Where to request official copy of baptismal record?


 
After 1895, official records were and are in the civic records office.

--- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, Patricia Ehret  wrote:
>
> Dear John,
>
> Thank you so much for your quick response.  I had however already looked at
the site you mentioned but the baptismal records for
> 1908 are not among them.  Someone else gave me the email for the
Protopresbyter....something or other which I gather is the head parish?
for Puste-Cemerne so hopefully they can help me.
>
> Regarding the website link you mentioned . . . . do you know whether the years
not included are available and just not indexed yet or
> are not available at all?
>
> Again, thank you.
>
> Parichat
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: John
> To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 7:38 AM
> Subject: [S-R] Re: Where to request official copy of baptismal record?
>
>
>  
> To 1895, GC church records for Puste Cemerne are avialble online. Any
"official copy" would simply be a rewrite or transcription.
>
https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/index#uri=https%3A%2F%2Ffamilysearch.o\
rg%2Frecords%2Fwaypoint%2FM99C-76K%3A786159880%3Fcc%3D1554443
>
> Happy squinting.
>
> --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "loqipei"  wrote:
> >
> > Would like to find out how to go about obtaining official copy of baptismal
record. The church is St. Nicholas (Greek Catholic) in Puste-Cemerne near
Leszna, Lesna in Michalovce, Slovakia, (then Nagy Mihaly, Hungary) Zemplen
county Slovakia from 1908.  Were records sent to a Hungarian archive or a
Slovakian one?  And, is there a main Greek Catholic church center/eparchy where
records were sent?
> >
> > Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Thank you for your help!
> >
> > Parichat
> >
>
>
>
>
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>




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mhuba,
Yes, they are online.  You will find them them in the FHL collection listed
under the Roman Catholic records - Ruzemberok district - Liptovska Luzsna.

Curt B.

--- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "mhuba" <illy@...> wrote:
>
> Are the marriage records of Liptovska Luzna available on line
>

I have provided a link to the Liptovska Luzna records online. As you can see
they end in 1847. It may well be that the newer records have not been cataloged
yet. Next is the names Liptovska Luzna has been know by throughout its history.
Liptovska is located in the okres/district of Ruzomberok and the kraj/region of
Zilinsky. It was located in the Hungarian county of Liptov.
   Liptovská Lúžna RK/ZI liptov.
   1773 Lusna, 1786 Luschna, 1808 Luzsna, Lósna, Lužna, 1863–1895 Luzsna,
1898–1913 Lúzsna, 1920 Lužna, 1927– Liptovská Lúžna
   a.. Slovakia, Church and Synagogue Books, 1592-1910
   b.. Roman Catholic (Rímsko-katolícká cirkev)
   c.. Ružomberok
   d.. Liptovská Lúžna  Baptisms, marriages, deaths (Krsty, manželstvá,
úmrtia) 1787-1847 -
https://familysearch.org/search/image/index#uri=https%3A%2F%2Ffamilysearch.org%2\
Frecords%2Fwaypoint%2FM99C-HG6%3A572125087%3Fcc%3D1554443

From: mhuba
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 3:00 PM
To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [S-R] Marriage Records Liptovska Luzna


Are the marriage records of Liptovska Luzna available on line





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>>> Are the marriage records of Liptovska Luzna available on line <<<

You have received two previous partial answers.

The later records contain information that is too recent and so that information
is available on film ONLY at your LDS Family History Center.

Krsty 1847-1855 Birmovan� 1939, 1933, 1927 Krsty 1855-1866 Man�elstv� 1855-1883
�mrtia 1855-1873 Krsty 1867-1895 Man�elstv� 1844-1855 �mrtia 1844-1855 Birmovan�
1911 Man�elstv� 1884-1895 �mrtia 1874-1892 -  FHL INTL Film [ 1983123 Items 1-7
]

Order it online and then wait about a month for delivery to your FHC.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-14349-30798-44?cc=1554443&wc=M99C-JW2\
:324526822
Trnava.
I need help with a full translation of this entry, left page, 2nd from the
bottom:
For Georgius, father Nicholai? MRAVKO

I'm not sure, but are these entries by the Franciscan order? I ask because
there is another entry for Trencin, 1698 for Andras MRAVKO without the
mention of any Order:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-14350-26570-62?cc=1554443&wc=M99C-J9X\
:n286524109
Right page 2nd last entry (28th) above Junius (June).
I'm aware that there was a Dominican order, but I don't see the
significance of a priest mentioning his order unless it has something to do
with the expulsion of the Turks as recently as 1697 in Visegrad. Could this
be evidence of the counter-reformation movement?

Peter M.


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I think it's just the priest's name, Francis.  Here's what I read:

On the 26th?/20th?  day of March  (unus?)  Father Francis baptized George born
(in) Trnava, the son of Nicholas Mravko, the father, and Catherine, the mother.
The godfather was Christopher Hiol??, and the godmother was Rosina (Rose?) the
wife of the godfather.


Joe


-----Original Message-----
From: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of htcstech
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 12:03 AM
To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [S-R] MRAVKO Translation of early Latin 1698 Franciscan Order?



https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-14349-30798-44?cc=1554443&wc=M99C-JW2\
:324526822
Trnava.
I need help with a full translation of this entry, left page, 2nd from the
bottom:
For Georgius, father Nicholai? MRAVKO

I'm not sure, but are these entries by the Franciscan order? I ask because
there is another entry for Trencin, 1698 for Andras MRAVKO without the
mention of any Order:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-14350-26570-62?cc=1554443&wc=M99C-J9X\
:n286524109
Right page 2nd last entry (28th) above Junius (June).
I'm aware that there was a Dominican order, but I don't see the
significance of a priest mentioning his order unless it has something to do
with the expulsion of the Turks as recently as 1697 in Visegrad. Could this
be evidence of the counter-reformation movement?

Peter M.

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Joe,

I am quite sure it is not the priest's name but says that one (=unus) ordained
Fransiscan monk made the baptism. That has been often so when the regular vicar
was not available for some reason (illness, travel etc...)

Jacques

--- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "Armata, Joseph R" <armata+@...> wrote:
>
> I think it's just the priest's name, Francis.  Here's what I read:
>
> On the 26th?/20th?  day of March  (unus?)  Father Francis baptized George born
(in) Trnava, the son of Nicholas Mravko, the father, and Catherine, the mother.
The godfather was Christopher Hiol??, and the godmother was Rosina (Rose?) the
wife of the godfather.
>
>
> Joe
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of htcstech
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 12:03 AM
> To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [S-R] MRAVKO Translation of early Latin 1698 Franciscan Order?
>
>
>
>
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-14349-30798-44?cc=1554443&wc=M99C-JW2\
:324526822
> Trnava.
> I need help with a full translation of this entry, left page, 2nd from the
> bottom:
> For Georgius, father Nicholai? MRAVKO
>
> I'm not sure, but are these entries by the Franciscan order? I ask because
> there is another entry for Trencin, 1698 for Andras MRAVKO without the
> mention of any Order:
>
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-14350-26570-62?cc=1554443&wc=M99C-J9X\
:n286524109
> Right page 2nd last entry (28th) above Junius (June).
> I'm aware that there was a Dominican order, but I don't see the
> significance of a priest mentioning his order unless it has something to do
> with the expulsion of the Turks as recently as 1697 in Visegrad. Could this
> be evidence of the counter-reformation movement?
>
> Peter M.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Dear John,
I tried to have informations about Family Center in Clermont-Ferrand.
They have no films , but their church is opened only on sundays for offices.
Perhaps somebody living near Horna Micina could help me ?
Thank you.

--- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "John" <johnqadam@...> wrote:
>
> >>> His grandmother was Maria TUREKOVA born in HORNA MICINA 09/12/1883. I have
a copy of his birth certificate, but I have not found in familysearch.org. <<<
>
> Horna Micina:
>
> Only the following records are online:
> Baptisms, marriages, deaths (Krsty, man�elstv�, �mrtia) 1737-1777
>
> The relevant film (for you) has records up to 1938 and so can only be viewed
on film at an LDS Family History Centre in your area.
>

>>> I tried to have informations about Family Center in Clermont-Ferrand. They
have no films, but their church is opened only on sundays for offices. <<<

Centre d' Histoire Familiale de Clermont-Ferrand, France
298 rue de l Oradou
CLERMONT-FERRAND, 63000
FRANCE
+33 4-7327-5036
open by appt.

45 rue Gaston Charlet
LIMOGES, 87000
FRANCE
+33 0 55012114
Hours T 14:30-18:00;
F 17:00-18:00;
Sa 9:00-12:30.
Closures: The center will be closed from Wednesday 8 July until Monday 31
August, 2009

10 avenue de Verdun
ECULLY, 69130
FRANCE
+33 478 3331 79
Hours T, Th 14:00-19:00;
W 9:00-18:00;
Sa 10:00-17:0

Evangelical Lutheran Church parish registers of baptisms, marriages, deaths for
Hornia Mičin� (Horn� Mičina), Slovakia formerly Felső-Micsinye
(Felschő-Micschinye, Felsőmicsinye), Z�lyom, Hungary.

�mrtia 1818-1860 (str. 74-216) -  VAULT INTL Film [ 2269176 Item 1 ]
Krsty 1862-1895 (str. 1-177) -- Man�elstv� 1883-1895 (str. 1-46) -  VAULT INTL
Film [ 2269176 Item 2 ]
�mrtia 1860-1895 (str. 3-176) -  VAULT INTL Film [ 2269176 Item 3 ]
�mrtia 1895-1950 (str. 1-279) -  VAULT INTL Film [ 2269176 Item 4 ]

Thank you again,
But I confirm that it is impossible to make an appointment in Clermont. This is
a disc when answering the phone. We are invited to attend the Sunday office.
Limoges and Ecully are a bit far for me. As I have come to Banska in  August, I
will go directly to the mayor.
I regreat to do not have help from Slovakia.
Best regards.

----- Original Message -----
   From: John
   To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 7:17 PM
   Subject: [S-R] Re: Kapustik in Zvolen



   >>> I tried to have informations about Family Center in Clermont-Ferrand. They
have no films, but their church is opened only on sundays for offices. <<<

   Centre d' Histoire Familiale de Clermont-Ferrand, France
   298 rue de l Oradou
   CLERMONT-FERRAND, 63000
   FRANCE
   +33 4-7327-5036
   open by appt.

   45 rue Gaston Charlet
   LIMOGES, 87000
   FRANCE
   +33 0 55012114
   Hours T 14:30-18:00;
   F 17:00-18:00;
   Sa 9:00-12:30.
   Closures: The center will be closed from Wednesday 8 July until Monday 31
August, 2009

   10 avenue de Verdun
   ECULLY, 69130
   FRANCE
   +33 478 3331 79
   Hours T, Th 14:00-19:00;
   W 9:00-18:00;
   Sa 10:00-17:0

   Evangelical Lutheran Church parish registers of baptisms, marriages, deaths
for Hornia Micin� (Horn� Micina), Slovakia formerly Felso-Micsinye
(Felscho-Micschinye, Felsomicsinye), Z�lyom, Hungary.

   �mrtia 1818-1860 (str. 74-216) - VAULT INTL Film [ 2269176 Item 1 ]
   Krsty 1862-1895 (str. 1-177) -- Manzelstv� 1883-1895 (str. 1-46) - VAULT INTL
Film [ 2269176 Item 2 ]
   �mrtia 1860-1895 (str. 3-176) - VAULT INTL Film [ 2269176 Item 3 ]
   �mrtia 1895-1950 (str. 1-279) - VAULT INTL Film [ 2269176 Item 4 ]





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That makes sense, thanks!
Joe


-----Original Message-----
From: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of jcotteret
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 12:07 PM
To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [S-R] Re: MRAVKO Translation of early Latin 1698 Franciscan Order?





Joe,

I am quite sure it is not the priest's name but says that one (=unus) ordained
Fransiscan monk made the baptism. That has been often so when the regular vicar
was not available for some reason (illness, travel etc...)

Jacques

--- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "Armata, Joseph R" <armata+@...> wrote:
>
> I think it's just the priest's name, Francis.  Here's what I read:
>
> On the 26th?/20th?  day of March  (unus?)  Father Francis baptized George born
(in) Trnava, the son of Nicholas Mravko, the father, and Catherine, the mother.
The godfather was Christopher Hiol??, and the godmother was Rosina (Rose?) the
wife of the godfather.
>
>
> Joe
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of htcstech
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 12:03 AM
> To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [S-R] MRAVKO Translation of early Latin 1698 Franciscan Order?
>
>
>
>
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-14349-30798-44?cc=1554443&wc=M99C-JW2\
:324526822
> Trnava.
> I need help with a full translation of this entry, left page, 2nd from the
> bottom:
> For Georgius, father Nicholai? MRAVKO
>
> I'm not sure, but are these entries by the Franciscan order? I ask because
> there is another entry for Trencin, 1698 for Andras MRAVKO without the
> mention of any Order:
>
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-14350-26570-62?cc=1554443&wc=M99C-J9X\
:n286524109
> Right page 2nd last entry (28th) above Junius (June).
> I'm aware that there was a Dominican order, but I don't see the
> significance of a priest mentioning his order unless it has something to do
> with the expulsion of the Turks as recently as 1697 in Visegrad. Could this
> be evidence of the counter-reformation movement?
>
> Peter M.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>




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Right page, last entry.
I need to know what "(penes?) excels camera cancellista" in reference to
the father Georgius.
I get "within the most high room (chancellery?). From reading the other
entries, I think this is a job description of some kind.
Under Locus: I read " Ex Wericz". The script is poor and I'm not certain.
Also LDS have this book under Sv.Martina (part II) as a location. Does
anyone know what/where that is?

Thank you so much for your help,

Peter M.


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