Anecdotally in my extended family, Horvath meant Southern Slav and Toth
means Upper Slav. The frequency of the names suggest that Horvath in
particular can't just come from Croatia, but encompasses a larger
demographic throughout old Hungary.

Peter M.

On 20 February 2013 03:12, MGMojher <mgmojher@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> a.. ^ "Najčastejšie priezviská na Slovensku (Most common family names in
> Slovakia)". Geni.sk. Retrieved 17 August 2012.
>
> From: jcotteret
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 3:07 AM
> To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [S-R] Re: SLOVAK SURNAMES, TOP 10
>
>
> What puzzles me is that all these surnames are well known and frequently
> used Hungarian surnames as well.Here is their frequency ranking in Hungary:
>
>
Horvath=5th;Kovacs=2nd;Varga=6th;Toth=3rd;Nagy=1rst;Balasz=25th;Szabo=4th;Molnar\
=8th;Balogh=11th;Lukacs=35th
>
> Disturbing, isn't it?
> Which origin is the survey they were extracted from?
> Regards
>
> Jacques
>
> --- In mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com, htcstech wrote:
> >
> > Fascinating and a little disturbing that Horvath and Toth are in the top
> 5.
> > Horvat is a common Croatian name, and Toth can mean Slav or Slovak in
> > Hungarian.
> > So genealogically speaking the common names become very hard to
> impossible
> > to trace. If you are researching a unique name, things get a lot easier.
> > Does anyone know if Slovaks or Rusyns have a distinct name for
> themselves?
> > Is TOTH a Slovak word that's been borrowed by the Hungarians? Or is it
> > simply that Hungarians call Slovaks 'Toth'?
> >
> > Peter M.
> >
> > On 19 February 2013 14:59, MGMojher wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > I found this bit of information that might be of interest -
> > > In 2003 there were registered in Slovakia 185,288 surnames for men and
> > > women. With a population of approximately 5.4 million this accounted
> for
> > > one surname for about 29 people. Assuming that half of that number are
> men
> > > and half women, it can be calculated that Slovakia has around 92,600
> > > families.
> > > Rank Surname Number (1995) Number (2003) Place of highest incidence
> > > 1 Horváth / Horváthová 30,429 30,813 increase Petržalka
> > > 2 Kovac / KovÃ¡Ä ová 31,066 29,079 decrease Petržalka
> > > 3 Varga / Vargová 13,714 21,650 increase Komarno
> > > 4 Tóth / Tóthová 23,353 21,604 decrease Komárno
> > > 5 Nagy / Nagyová 20,984 19,341 decrease Komárno
> > > 6 Baláž / Balážová 14,785 14,114 decrease Žilina
> > > 7 Szabó / Szabová 10,665 13,998 increase Kolárovo
> > > 8 Molnár / Molnárová 13,907 12,632 decrease Komárno
> > > 9 Balog / Balogová 10,165 10,872 increase Trebišov
> > > 10 LukÃ¡Ä / LukÃ¡Ä ová 10,287 9,718 decrease PreÅ¡ov
> > >
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Would like to find out how to go about obtaining official copy of baptismal
record. The church is St. Nicholas (Greek Catholic) in Puste-Cemerne near
Leszna, Lesna in Michalovce, Slovakia, (then Nagy Mihaly, Hungary) Zemplen
county Slovakia from 1908.  Were records sent to a Hungarian archive or a
Slovakian one?  And, is there a main Greek Catholic church center/eparchy where
records were sent?

Any tips would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you for your help!

Parichat

To 1895, GC church records for Puste Cemerne are avialble online. Any "official
copy" would simply be a rewrite or transcription.
https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/index#uri=https%3A%2F%2Ffamilysearch.o\
rg%2Frecords%2Fwaypoint%2FM99C-76K%3A786159880%3Fcc%3D1554443

Happy squinting.



--- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "loqipei" <loqipei@...> wrote:
>
> Would like to find out how to go about obtaining official copy of baptismal
record. The church is St. Nicholas (Greek Catholic) in Puste-Cemerne near
Leszna, Lesna in Michalovce, Slovakia, (then Nagy Mihaly, Hungary) Zemplen
county Slovakia from 1908.  Were records sent to a Hungarian archive or a
Slovakian one?  And, is there a main Greek Catholic church center/eparchy where
records were sent?
>
> Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thank you for your help!
>
> Parichat
>

It is wonderful to share Karel Plicka's magnificent photos but please identify
the photographer - he was the best and spent a good part of his life traveling
the Slovakia he loved and recording the people, their dress and their way of
life (he was a Czech but like famed painter Jan Hala fell in love with Slovakia
- it happens to so many of us!)

There is a small museum devoted to Plicka and his magnificent work south of
Martin.

helene

PUSTÉ ČEMERNÉ   Exc. Strážske 072 22 Strážske

This is what the Greek Catholic Archbisopric of Kosice had listed.  Parish,
telephone number (none), Priest (it appears to be affiliate with the town of
Strazske), Rectory Address(Zip Code, and street address).
       STRÁŽSKE 056/6491585 Ladislav Praščák 072 22 ST, Mierová 40
       Jaroslav Girovský 072 22 ST, Mierová 40

This in the information for Strazske.


Since Puste Cemerne has a population of some 325 it would be an affiliated
parish. The Protoprebyter of Michalovce would be the closest to Puste Cemerne.
They do have an e-mail address. They may be able to provide you with a hard copy
of the baptismal certificate. Or at least let you know where you can get one.
       MICHALOVCE Protopresbyter: o. ThLic. František Puci
             Adresa: Hollého 4, 071 01 Michalovce
             Kontakt: 056/6883431-2
             Email: michalovce.grkat@...
             Web: N/A


















From: loqipei
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 5:16 AM
To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [S-R] Where to request official copy of baptismal record?


Would like to find out how to go about obtaining official copy of baptismal
record. The church is St. Nicholas (Greek Catholic) in Puste-Cemerne near
Leszna, Lesna in Michalovce, Slovakia, (then Nagy Mihaly, Hungary) Zemplen
county Slovakia from 1908. Were records sent to a Hungarian archive or a
Slovakian one? And, is there a main Greek Catholic church center/eparchy where
records were sent?

Any tips would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you for your help!

Parichat





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helene,

  What am I missing here?

TOM

--- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, helene cincebeaux <helenezx@...> wrote:
>
> It is wonderful to share Karel Plicka's magnificent photos but please identify
the photographer - he was the best and spent a good part of his life traveling
the Slovakia he loved and recording the people, their dress and their way of
life (he was a Czech but like famed painter Jan Hala fell in love with Slovakia
- it happens to so many of us!)
>
> There is a small museum devoted to Plicka and his magnificent work south of
Martin.
>
> helene
>

I think she's referring to the photos that were recently added to the "old
pictures of Slovakia" folder on the group page.

Erin

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 21, 2013, at 9:00 AM, "t.salony" <t.salony@...> wrote:

> helene,
>
> What am I missing here?
>
> TOM
>
> --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, helene cincebeaux wrote:
> >
> > It is wonderful to share Karel Plicka's magnificent photos but please
identify the photographer - he was the best and spent a good part of his life
traveling the Slovakia he loved and recording the people, their dress and their
way of life (he was a Czech but like famed painter Jan Hala fell in love with
Slovakia - it happens to so many of us!)
> >
> > There is a small museum devoted to Plicka and his magnificent work south of
Martin.
> >
> > helene
> >
>
>


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Thank you so much for the information!  You are VERY helpful!!!! :):)

Parichat


________________________________
  From: MGMojher <mgmojher@...>
To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: [S-R] Where to request official copy of baptismal record?


 
PUSTÉ ČEMERNÉ   Exc. Strážske 072 22 Strážske

This is what the Greek Catholic Archbisopric of Kosice had listed.  Parish,
telephone number (none), Priest (it appears to be affiliate with the town of
Strazske), Rectory Address(Zip Code, and street address).
STRÁŽSKE 056/6491585 Ladislav Praščák 072 22 ST, Mierová 40
Jaroslav Girovský 072 22 ST, Mierová 40

This in the information for Strazske.

Since Puste Cemerne has a population of some 325 it would be an affiliated
parish. The Protoprebyter of Michalovce would be the closest to Puste Cemerne.
They do have an e-mail address. They may be able to provide you with a hard copy
of the baptismal certificate. Or at least let you know where you can get one.
MICHALOVCE Protopresbyter: o. ThLic. František Puci
Adresa: Hollého 4, 071 01 Michalovce
Kontakt: 056/6883431-2
Email: michalovce.grkat@...
Web: N/A



From: loqipei
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 5:16 AM
To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [S-R] Where to request official copy of baptismal record?

Would like to find out how to go about obtaining official copy of baptismal
record. The church is St. Nicholas (Greek Catholic) in Puste-Cemerne near
Leszna, Lesna in Michalovce, Slovakia, (then Nagy Mihaly, Hungary) Zemplen
county Slovakia from 1908. Were records sent to a Hungarian archive or a
Slovakian one? And, is there a main Greek Catholic church center/eparchy where
records were sent?

Any tips would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you for your help!

Parichat

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Dear John,

Thank you so much for your quick response.  I had however already looked at the
site you mentioned but the baptismal records for
1908 are not among them.  Someone else gave me the email for the
Protopresbyter....something or other which I gather is the head parish?
for Puste-Cemerne so hopefully they can help me.

Regarding the website link you mentioned . . . . do you know whether the years
not included are available and just not indexed yet or
are not available at all?

Again, thank you.

Parichat


________________________________
  From: John <johnqadam@...>
To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 7:38 AM
Subject: [S-R] Re: Where to request official copy of baptismal record?


 
To 1895, GC church records for Puste Cemerne are avialble online. Any "official
copy" would simply be a rewrite or transcription.
https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/index#uri=https%3A%2F%2Ffamilysearch.o\
rg%2Frecords%2Fwaypoint%2FM99C-76K%3A786159880%3Fcc%3D1554443

Happy squinting.

--- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "loqipei"  wrote:
>
> Would like to find out how to go about obtaining official copy of baptismal
record. The church is St. Nicholas (Greek Catholic) in Puste-Cemerne near
Leszna, Lesna in Michalovce, Slovakia, (then Nagy Mihaly, Hungary) Zemplen
county Slovakia from 1908.  Were records sent to a Hungarian archive or a
Slovakian one?  And, is there a main Greek Catholic church center/eparchy where
records were sent?
>
> Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thank you for your help!
>
> Parichat
>




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Parichat,

Do you need a an official copy of
(i) baptismal record (for church purposes), or a copy of
(ii) birth record (for civil and state citizenship purposes)?

Peter

Patricia Ehret wrote / napísal(a):
> Dear John,
>
> Thank you so much for your quick response.  I had however already
> looked at the site you mentioned but the baptismal records for
> 1908 are not among them.  Someone else gave me the email for the
> Protopresbyter....something or other which I gather is the head
> parish? for Puste-Cemerne so hopefully they can help me.
>
> Regarding the website link you mentioned . . . . do you know whether
> the years not included are available and just not indexed yet or
> are not available at all?
>
> Again, thank you.
>
> Parichat

Very good question!  I need a copy of birth record for civil & state
citizenship purposes which must be official.

Thanks,

Parichat


________________________________
  From: Peter Nagy <rndrnagy@...>
To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: [S-R] Re: Where to request official copy of baptismal record?


 
Parichat,

Do you need a an official copy of
(i) baptismal record (for church purposes), or a copy of
(ii) birth record (for civil and state citizenship purposes)?

Peter

Patricia Ehret wrote / napísal(a):
> Dear John,
>
> Thank you so much for your quick response.  I had however already
> looked at the site you mentioned but the baptismal records for
> 1908 are not among them.  Someone else gave me the email for the
> Protopresbyter....something or other which I gather is the head
> parish? for Puste-Cemerne so hopefully they can help me.
>
> Regarding the website link you mentioned . . . . do you know whether
> the years not included are available and just not indexed yet or
> are not available at all?
>
> Again, thank you.
>
> Parichat




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Parichat,

Do you know the date and birth place?
The state vital records after 1906 are kept by the registry offices (in
Slovak Matričný úrad). In order to give you the relevant registry
office, I need to know the birth place and date, because the registry
districts (matričný obvod) changed from time to time.

Peter

Patricia Ehret wrote / napísal(a):
> Very good question!  I need a copy of birth record for civil & state
> citizenship purposes which must be official.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Parichat

Dear Patricia:

Are you any relation to a Howie Ehret that grew up on the west side of
Cleveland, Ohio?  He was a friend of mine when I was very young, but  he moved
away sometime when I was in grade school.

Best regards,

David

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Dear Peter,

Birthplace and date:  Leszna, Michalovce (NagyMihaly in Hungarian) Zemplen Co.,
Hungary now Lesne or Lesna, Michalovce, Zemplin Co., Slovakia.  Date:
 November 6th, 1908.  Baptism November 8th, 1908 at St. Nicholas Greek
Catholic Church in Puste-Cemerne, Michalovce, Zemplen Co.  Baptismal
certificate says Eparchy was Michalovce bottom has a Uzhorogod stamp which is
now part of Ukraine.

Thanks so much for your trouble!

Patricia


________________________________
  From: Peter Nagy <rndrnagy@...>
To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: [S-R] Re: Where to request official copy of baptismal record?


 
Parichat,

Do you know the date and birth place?
The state vital records after 1906 are kept by the registry offices (in
Slovak Matričný úrad). In order to give you the relevant registry
office, I need to know the birth place and date, because the registry
districts (matričný obvod) changed from time to time.

Peter

Patricia Ehret wrote / napísal(a):
> Very good question!  I need a copy of birth record for civil & state
> citizenship purposes which must be official.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Parichat




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Thanks Erin -

helene

--- On Thu, 2/21/13, Erin Valdes <erin.valdes@...> wrote:

> From: Erin Valdes <erin.valdes@...>
> Subject: Re: [S-R] Re: Karel Plicka's magnificent photos
> To: "SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com" <SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Thursday, February 21, 2013, 1:34 PM
>
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> recently added to the "old pictures of Slovakia"
> folder on the group page.
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>
> Erin
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On Feb 21, 2013, at 9:00 AM, "t.salony" t.salony@...>
> wrote:
>
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> > helene,
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> >
>
> > What am I missing here?
>
> >
>
> > TOM
>
> >
>
> > --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com,
> helene cincebeaux wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > > It is wonderful to share Karel Plicka's
> magnificent photos but please identify the photographer - he
> was the best and spent a good part of his life traveling the
> Slovakia he loved and recording the people, their dress and
> their way of life (he was a Czech but like famed painter Jan
> Hala fell in love with Slovakia - it happens to so many of
> us!)
>
> > >
>
> > > There is a small museum devoted to Plicka and his
> magnificent work south of Martin.
>
> > >
>
> > > helene
>
> > >
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Patricia,

The seat of Registry office for Lesne is Nacina Ves
http://www.nacinaves.sk/-contact

Peter

Patricia Ehret wrote / napísal(a):
> Dear Peter,
>
> Birthplace and date:  Leszna, Michalovce (NagyMihaly in Hungarian)
> Zemplen Co., Hungary now Lesne or Lesna, Michalovce, Zemplin Co.,
> Slovakia.  Date:  November 6th, 1908.  Baptism November 8th, 1908 at
> St. Nicholas Greek Catholic Church in Puste-Cemerne, Michalovce,
> Zemplen Co.  Baptismal certificate says Eparchy was Michalovce bottom
> has a Uzhorogod stamp which is now part of Ukraine.
>
> Thanks so much for your trouble!
>
> Patricia

Hi everybody,
I'm new member here. I'm Slovak living in TN (new US citizen) and I love History
and Genealogy. Just finished my Genealogy in Trencin area.
I have to tell you guys: you are doing fantastic job! I'm amazed how many
information about Slovakia you have and were able to find and how good are you
in reading and understanding old Slovak/Hungarian record. You have to dill with
3 languages-Slovak, Latin and Hungarian. You even were able to recognize Karol
Plickas' pictures (I have more of them). Great !
Please, let me know if I can help somehow.
Zuzana (Susanna in Latin)


________________________________
  From: helene cincebeaux <helenezx@...>
To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: [S-R] Karel Plicka's magnificent photos

 

It is wonderful to share Karel Plicka's magnificent photos but please identify
the photographer - he was the best and spent a good part of his life traveling
the Slovakia he loved and recording the people, their dress and their way of
life (he was a Czech but like famed painter Jan Hala fell in love with Slovakia
- it happens to so many of us!)

There is a small museum devoted to Plicka and his magnificent work south of
Martin.

helene


          

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I have 1920 naturalization paperwork that identifies an Austria-Hungarian
village as what looks to me as "Nedecz".  The naturalization paperwork is at the
following link on Ancestry.

http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=2717&iid=31311_134376-00268&\
fn=Mihal+George&ln=Novak&st=r&ssrc=&pid=303963

I located the 1905 arrival ship manifest and the village name appears to be the
same as listed on the naturalization papers.  However, I think I have also found
him on 2 previous manifests with different villages which seem to read "Gabocz"
and "Casba"

Trying to use Google etc. I haven't been able to determine what any of these
village are.  Hoping that someone might be able to help me out.

Thanks in advance,
Judy

>>> I love History and Genealogy. Just finished my Genealogy in Trencin area.<<<

Zuzana, you are NEVER finished your genealogy!

Judy,
It is a village in the Trencin district. Its current name is Nededza. It is just
a few miles east of the city of Zilina.

Curt B.

--- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "Judy" <hogelj@...> wrote:
>
> I have 1920 naturalization paperwork that identifies an Austria-Hungarian
village as what looks to me as "Nedecz".  The naturalization paperwork is at the
following link on Ancestry.
>
>
http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=2717&iid=31311_134376-00268&\
fn=Mihal+George&ln=Novak&st=r&ssrc=&pid=303963
>
> I located the 1905 arrival ship manifest and the village name appears to be
the same as listed on the naturalization papers.  However, I think I have also
found him on 2 previous manifests with different villages which seem to read
"Gabocz" and "Casba"
>
> Trying to use Google etc. I haven't been able to determine what any of these
village are.  Hoping that someone might be able to help me out.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Judy
>

>>> village as what looks to me as "Nedecz".  .  .  However, I think I have also
found him on 2 previous manifests with different villages which seem to read
"Gabocz" and "Casba" <<<

OLD NAMES of the village(town):
1773 Nedecza, Nedeca, 1786 Nedecza, 1808 Nedecza, Nědeca, 1863�1902 Nedec,
1907�1913 V�gnedec, 1920� Nededza

Used the 1910 map of Trencsen Megye to locate Nedecz.

http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/trencsen.jpg

Nearby (1910) villages of Zsolna and Gbellan might be the other two.

OLD NAMES of the village(town):
1773 Gleblan, Glebany, 1786 Gleblan, Gbellani, 1808 Gbel�n, Gbelany, 1863,
1877�1895, 1902 Gbellan, 1873, 1898�1900 Gbell�n, 1907�1913 Egbel�ny, 1920�1973
Gbelany, 1973� Gbeľany

OLD NAMES of the village(town):
1773, 1786 Solna, Silein, �ilina, 1808 Zsolna, Solna, Sillein, �ilina, 1863�1913
Zsolna, 1920� �ilina

Judy,
Here is a possibility-
Nededza ZA/ZI trenč.
1773 Nedecza, Nedeca, 1786 Nedecza, 1808 Nedecza, Nědeca, 1863–1902 Nedec,
1907–1913 Vágnedec, 1920– Nededza

Nedec was used during the time period on the documents. It was in the Hungarian
county of Trencin.

Nedecz listings for Ellis Island:

       127 Novak, Mihaly Nedecz 18 1881 1899  view  view  view  view
       128 Novak, Mihaly Nedecz 49 1850 1899  view  view  view  view
       129 Novak, Mihaly Nedecz 19 1880 1899  view  view  view  view
       130 Novak, Vojtek Nedecz 44 1857 1901  view  view  view  view  v
       131 Nowak, Mihaly Nedecz, Hungary 20 1894 1914


From: Judy
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 11:23 AM
To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [S-R] Need help with a village name


I have 1920 naturalization paperwork that identifies an Austria-Hungarian
village as what looks to me as "Nedecz". The naturalization paperwork is at the
following link on Ancestry.

http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=2717&iid=31311_134376-00268&\
fn=Mihal+George&ln=Novak&st=r&ssrc=&pid=303963

I located the 1905 arrival ship manifest and the village name appears to be the
same as listed on the naturalization papers. However, I think I have also found
him on 2 previous manifests with different villages which seem to read "Gabocz"
and "Casba"

Trying to use Google etc. I haven't been able to determine what any of these
village are. Hoping that someone might be able to help me out.

Thanks in advance,
Judy





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Thanks Curt, John and Michael for your thoughts.  The Trencin locaton looks like
a great possibility.

Now with the direction you've given me, I've been looking through the
FamilySearch on line records trying to find the church records but after I
choose "Roman Catholic" I don't know which choices to make next.  I tried the
Trencin and Zelina records but I don't find Nedecz after that.  Using FHC place
search for "Nedecz" in Slovakia doesn't give me any help.

Michael, I see how you found the Micahel Novaks from Nedecz, but actually the
passenger lists I think are his are not any of those. On the passenger list that
is refered to in the naturalization papers the handwriting of first letter of
his last name does not look like an "N" unless you already know that is is, so
heaven know what it was interpreted to be.

If I can get to the church records and find him with the date of birth I have
then I'll know I have the right place.

Thank you all for your help.
--- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "MGMojher" <mgmojher@...> wrote:
>
> Judy,
> Here is a possibility-
> Nededza ZA/ZI trenč.
> 1773 Nedecza, Nedeca, 1786 Nedecza, 1808 Nedecza, Nědeca, 1863�"1902 Nedec,
1907�"1913 Vágnedec, 1920�" Nededza
>
> Nedec was used during the time period on the documents. It was in the
Hungarian county of Trencin.
>
> Nedecz listings for Ellis Island:
>
>       127 Novak, Mihaly Nedecz 18 1881 1899  view  view  view  view
>       128 Novak, Mihaly Nedecz 49 1850 1899  view  view  view  view
>       129 Novak, Mihaly Nedecz 19 1880 1899  view  view  view  view
>       130 Novak, Vojtek Nedecz 44 1857 1901  view  view  view  view  v
>       131 Nowak, Mihaly Nedecz, Hungary 20 1894 1914
>
>
> From: Judy
> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 11:23 AM
> To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [S-R] Need help with a village name
>
>
> I have 1920 naturalization paperwork that identifies an Austria-Hungarian
village as what looks to me as "Nedecz". The naturalization paperwork is at the
following link on Ancestry.
>
>
http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=2717&iid=31311_134376-00268&\
fn=Mihal+George&ln=Novak&st=r&ssrc=&pid=303963
>
> I located the 1905 arrival ship manifest and the village name appears to be
the same as listed on the naturalization papers. However, I think I have also
found him on 2 previous manifests with different villages which seem to read
"Gabocz" and "Casba"
>
> Trying to use Google etc. I haven't been able to determine what any of these
village are. Hoping that someone might be able to help me out.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Judy
>
>
>
>
>
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>

>>> Now with the direction you've given me, I've been looking through the
FamilySearch on line records trying to find the church records but after I
choose "Roman Catholic" I don't know which choices to make next. <<<

Dvorak Gazetteer http://www.radixhub.com/radixhub/gazetteers/1877/trencsen.htm
says RC records are under Varna (old name).

Old LDS catalogue shows: Roman Catholic parish registers of baptisms, marriages,
and deaths for Var�n, Slovakia; formerly Varin-V�rna, Trencs�n, Hungary.

On new web site, path is RC / Zilina / Varin
https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/index#uri=https%3A%2F%2Ffamilysearch.o\
rg%2Frecords%2Fwaypoint%2FM99C-CM6%3A1836921250%3Fcc%3D1554443

Thanks so much John.

But now that I've searched the birth records for RC / Zilina / Varin for
1885-1892 (I have birthdates of 19 Aug 1888 on Naturalization and 25 Oct 1888 on
WW II Draft card) I don't find him.  Waiting on the U.S. church records that I
hope will have a location of birth/origin.



--- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "John" <johnqadam@...> wrote:
>
> >>> Now with the direction you've given me, I've been looking through the
FamilySearch on line records trying to find the church records but after I
choose "Roman Catholic" I don't know which choices to make next. <<<
>
> Dvorak Gazetteer http://www.radixhub.com/radixhub/gazetteers/1877/trencsen.htm
> says RC records are under Varna (old name).
>
> Old LDS catalogue shows: Roman Catholic parish registers of baptisms,
marriages, and deaths for Var�n, Slovakia; formerly Varin-V�rna, Trencs�n,
Hungary.
>
> On new web site, path is RC / Zilina / Varin
>
https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/index#uri=https%3A%2F%2Ffamilysearch.o\
rg%2Frecords%2Fwaypoint%2FM99C-CM6%3A1836921250%3Fcc%3D1554443
>

This topic has been picked up and carried much further on Slovak Spot at
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/slovak-spot/4qs9oQmCWUc

which is a "must read" for anyone wishing to follow this topic. The coverage of
the topic on this Forum has followed what I would classify as more "opinion" and
"observation" than scholarly research, so I certainly do recommend you look to
_Slovak Spot_ on Google Groups for a continuation of the topic.

Ron

Are the marriage records of Liptovska Luzna available on line

Thank you Peter!  I appreciate your help!

Patricia Ehret


________________________________
  From: Peter Nagy <rndrnagy@...>
To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: [S-R] Re: Where to request official copy of baptismal record?


 
Patricia,

The seat of Registry office for Lesne is Nacina Ves
http://www.nacinaves.sk/-contact

Peter

Patricia Ehret wrote / napísal(a):
> Dear Peter,
>
> Birthplace and date:  Leszna, Michalovce (NagyMihaly in Hungarian)
> Zemplen Co., Hungary now Lesne or Lesna, Michalovce, Zemplin Co.,
> Slovakia.  Date:  November 6th, 1908.  Baptism November 8th, 1908 at
> St. Nicholas Greek Catholic Church in Puste-Cemerne, Michalovce,
> Zemplen Co.  Baptismal certificate says Eparchy was Michalovce bottom
> has a Uzhorogod stamp which is now part of Ukraine.
>
> Thanks so much for your trouble!
>
> Patricia




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My husband possible is a distant relation but his Ehret family moved west 100
years ago.
So, sorry no connection but the funny thing is that my father-in-laws name is
Howell.

Patricia Ehret


________________________________
  From: "david1law@..." <david1law@...>
To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: [S-R] Re: Where to request official copy of baptismal record?


 
Dear Patricia:

Are you any relation to a Howie Ehret that grew up on the west side of
Cleveland, Ohio?  He was a friend of mine when I was very young, but  he moved
away sometime when I was in grade school.

Best regards,

David

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Thank you John!

Patricia Ehret


________________________________
  From: John <johnqadam@...>
To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 8:03 PM
Subject: [S-R] Re: Where to request official copy of baptismal record?


 
After 1895, official records were and are in the civic records office.

--- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, Patricia Ehret  wrote:
>
> Dear John,
>
> Thank you so much for your quick response.  I had however already looked at
the site you mentioned but the baptismal records for
> 1908 are not among them.  Someone else gave me the email for the
Protopresbyter....something or other which I gather is the head parish?
for Puste-Cemerne so hopefully they can help me.
>
> Regarding the website link you mentioned . . . . do you know whether the years
not included are available and just not indexed yet or
> are not available at all?
>
> Again, thank you.
>
> Parichat
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: John
> To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 7:38 AM
> Subject: [S-R] Re: Where to request official copy of baptismal record?
>
>
>  
> To 1895, GC church records for Puste Cemerne are avialble online. Any
"official copy" would simply be a rewrite or transcription.
>
https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/index#uri=https%3A%2F%2Ffamilysearch.o\
rg%2Frecords%2Fwaypoint%2FM99C-76K%3A786159880%3Fcc%3D1554443
>
> Happy squinting.
>
> --- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "loqipei"  wrote:
> >
> > Would like to find out how to go about obtaining official copy of baptismal
record. The church is St. Nicholas (Greek Catholic) in Puste-Cemerne near
Leszna, Lesna in Michalovce, Slovakia, (then Nagy Mihaly, Hungary) Zemplen
county Slovakia from 1908.  Were records sent to a Hungarian archive or a
Slovakian one?  And, is there a main Greek Catholic church center/eparchy where
records were sent?
> >
> > Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Thank you for your help!
> >
> > Parichat
> >
>
>
>
>
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