I would like to give a big thank-you to Eric Hajducsek for bringing our
attention to the pdf files of the 1829 Land Census.  He helped me make those pdf
images into a searchable file for Szepes County which led me to the area that my
family was from.  As a result, I finally found the original family home town
that I have searched for (>10 years). Then using the LDS website with the
slightly different surname spellings, I was able to find my family records. 
They go back to the early 1700s. Thank you Eric!
CK

Those books are limited and most behind a paywall eg the Pozsony megye.
I've been waiting for a while now for it to come online. I'm not reluctant
to pay for it but I can't see the point in my research as I will look at
the archives directly in a few months.
I did do a name search on those that are available using the inbuilt search
function in the Adobe viewer. Is this what you used Carl? Or did Eric show
you a different method?

Peter M.

On 15 February 2013 09:21, Carl <carl.kotlarchik@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> I would like to give a big thank-you to Eric Hajducsek for bringing our
> attention to the pdf files of the 1829 Land Census. He helped me make those
> pdf images into a searchable file for Szepes County which led me to the
> area that my family was from. As a result, I finally found the original
> family home town that I have searched for (>10 years). Then using the LDS
> website with the slightly different surname spellings, I was able to find
> my family records. They go back to the early 1700s. Thank you Eric!
> CK
>
>
>


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Hi Bette,

I probably can not give you much help, but the name Merecziczki caught my eye
and I just had to write to you.
Several years ago I was searching in Jernye/ Jarovnice  for Makara.  They are
however very, very distant cousins.  Our Makara family probably came from
neighboring Peklin/ Uzovske Peklany and I did, what they call a Cluster Search. 
You will probably have come across the name already.

Here are two good websites for help with village names


http://www.cisarik.com/0_former_Saros_Saris_county.html

This the website of Juraj Cisarik, for wich I am ever grateful
This is a very helpful website for me.  i can check the spelling of a placename
and get information about the village.
Find your village name, for instance Modcidlany,   and click on it and you get,
see below

http://www.cisarik.com/0_Mocidlany_Sabinov_PV_Saros_Saris.html

You know about Bill Tarkulich's site ?  An invaluable site for so many things. 
Thank you Bill Tarkulich
http://www.iabsi.com/gen/public/toolbox.htm

If I can be of any help, write to me at christine1931@...

Christine

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Here's another record of census and census-like archives you might consider
  as a resource:

_http://www.demogr.mpg.de/papers/working/wp-2011-020.pdf_
(http://www.demogr.mpg.de/papers/working/wp-2011-020.pdf)


In a message dated 2/14/2013 4:22:04 P.M. Central Standard Time,
carl.kotlarchik@... writes:




I would like to give a big thank-you to Eric Hajducsek for bringing our
attention to the pdf files of the 1829 Land Census. He helped me make those
pdf images into a searchable file for Szepes County which led me to the area
that my family was from. As a result, I finally found the original family
home  town that I have searched for (>10 years). Then using the LDS website
with  the slightly different surname spellings, I was able to find my family
records. They go back to the early 1700s. Thank you  Eric!
CK






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Hello All,
Just thought I'll share this with you.
I'm preparing for my trip to Slovakia and I'm in the process of applying
for an Australian passport.
Today, it was rejected as I couldn't prove the link that the name on my
birth certificate (Marafko) and my naturalization certificate (Martyn) is
of the same person.
Evidently when my father became naturalized in 1961, he was given the
opportunity to change his name. No deed poll or any other name change
applications or documents were issued or for that matter, applied for. So
on the certificate it says "Robert Martyn formerly known as Marafko" and on
the back is my name, date of birth and birth place, but I'm listed as Peter
Martyn, without my middle name Miklos.
This document is now lost and I only have a single photocopy which is not
acceptable by the Australian government.
Evidently there may be a way around it - a declaration of sorts and I'll
find out more in a few days when I present the application again.
The interesting thing about it is that I can apply for a Hungarian passport
as Marafko, but if I use that to re-enter Australia, I'll need a visa! If I
stay longer than 3 months I become an illegal alien in my own country!
As there was no middle name recorded, officially I don't have one as far as
the Dept of Immigration is concerned even though every other form of ID I
have has it.
My official status as of now is that I'm an Australian citizen with no
birth certificate.

I really pity the genealogist in a hundred years from now who are trying to
place me in a family tree.
Makes me realise how a single, missing document can break an identity.

Peter M.


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

It's a good resource actually. You can see the problems associated with the
1869 census and how only some region's data survived. All in all it's very
patchy. I do wonder why they didn't bother to include the 1715-1720 tax
census?
I just hope that one day a treasure trove of census data will be found in
the cellars and attics!

Peter M.

On 16 February 2013 02:21, <takukuk@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Here's another record of census and census-like archives you might
> consider
> as a resource:
>
> _http://www.demogr.mpg.de/papers/working/wp-2011-020.pdf_
> (http://www.demogr.mpg.de/papers/working/wp-2011-020.pdf)
>
>
> In a message dated 2/14/2013 4:22:04 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> carl.kotlarchik@... writes:
>
> I would like to give a big thank-you to Eric Hajducsek for bringing our
> attention to the pdf files of the 1829 Land Census. He helped me make
> those
> pdf images into a searchable file for Szepes County which led me to the
> area
> that my family was from. As a result, I finally found the original family
> home town that I have searched for (>10 years). Then using the LDS website
> with the slightly different surname spellings, I was able to find my
> family
> records. They go back to the early 1700s. Thank you Eric!
> CK
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

For those interested in Polish genealogy or work in the Slovak Spis villages in
Southern Poland there is good news.  The Polish State Archives has announced
that they are going to put both historical church and many other civil records
online so they can be perused by users internationally and without charge.  They
will not be indexed by personal name (at least initially) but locatable by place
name and group, quite similar to how we first examined Slovak church records
inthe family history library..

The first group will go online in March of this year, the second group in June,
and then more to follow.

Here is the statement of the archives, and though in Polish you can paste it
into a translator like google and get a fair translation.
Click on the upper left note that says Plany Publikacji...etc . Plan of
publication...


http://nac.gov.pl/

or you may just want to go to the list of villages which will go online in
March.  The citation is in the middle of the document mentioned above but you
can get to it directly.  The name of the village is in the far right column.

http://nac.gov.pl/files/D%27ASC1_02_2013v.3.pdf

Curt B.

Peter/ Carl

 Where would I find the 1829 land census in PDF that you mention?

 Thank you.

larry



----- Original Message -----


From: "htcstech" <htcstech@...>
To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 9:13:04 AM
Subject: Re: [S-R] 1829 Land Census

It's a good resource actually. You can see the problems associated with the
1869 census and how only some region's data survived. All in all it's very
patchy. I do wonder why they didn't bother to include the 1715-1720 tax
census?
I just hope that one day a treasure trove of census data will be found in
the cellars and attics!

Peter M.

On 16 February 2013 02:21, <takukuk@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Here's another record of census and census-like archives you might
> consider
> as a resource:
>
> _http://www.demogr.mpg.de/papers/working/wp-2011-020.pdf_
> (http://www.demogr.mpg.de/papers/working/wp-2011-020.pdf)
>
>
> In a message dated 2/14/2013 4:22:04 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> carl.kotlarchik@... writes:
>
> I would like to give a big thank-you to Eric Hajducsek for bringing our
> attention to the pdf files of the 1829 Land Census. He helped me make
> those
> pdf images into a searchable file for Szepes County which led me to the
> area
> that my family was from. As a result, I finally found the original family
> home town that I have searched for (>10 years). Then using the LDS website
> with the slightly different surname spellings, I was able to find my
> family
> records. They go back to the early 1700s. Thank you Eric!
> CK
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>  
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Dear Kurt:

Thank you for sharing about what appears to be an awesome and excellent
resource for those of us who also have ancestors in Southern Poland.  For
those, like myself, who do not speak Polish fluently, I would highly  recommend
using GOOGLE.COM as your browser when you input the main page at
_http://nac.gov.pl/_ (http://nac.gov.pl/)  because GOOGLE.COM can  translate the
page
for you into English.  I am just starting to look  through the site, and I
hope and pray that church records from around the KROSNO  area of POLAND are
there.  Now, if I can only find someone who knows  military history and can
determine the type of uniform that my great grandfather  FRANTISCEK MOSKAL
wore in World War I, I would be very happy.

Thank you again, Kurt!  Dobry den!

Best regards,

David



In a message dated 2/15/2013 2:24:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
curt67boc@... writes:




For those interested in Polish genealogy or work in the Slovak Spis
villages in Southern Poland there is good news. The Polish State Archives has
announced that they are going to put both historical church and many other
civil records online so they can be perused by users internationally and
without charge. They will not be indexed by personal name (at least initially)
but locatable by place name and group, quite similar to how we first examined
  Slovak church records inthe family history library..

The first group  will go online in March of this year, the second group in
June, and then more  to follow.

Here is the statement of the archives, and though in Polish  you can paste
it into a translator like google and get a fair  translation.
Click on the upper left note that says Plany Publikacji...etc  . Plan of
publication...

_http://nac.gov.pl/_ (http://nac.gov.pl/)

or you may just want  to go to the list of villages which will go online in
March. The citation is  in the middle of the document mentioned above but
you can get to it directly.  The name of the village is in the far right
column.

_http://nac.gov.pl/files/D%27ASC1_02_2013v.3.pdf_
(http://nac.gov.pl/files/D'ASC1_02_2013v.3.pdf)

Curt  B.






[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Thanks,
  John that is house #68 and the spelling of the surnames are close. In Jernye #
65 there are 4 Triscsik's listed and #65 was once listed as the home
of NEIJTUSZ TRISCSIK and Anna Ondercso on the baptism record of their daughter,
Erzebet, 15 Nov, 1876. Image, Entry 44


https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18045-83450-25?cc=1554443&wc=M99C-FVL\
:n1550137223


Maybe both houses were homes of my family with siblings/ cousins/etc/
I'll get more info but keep these facts.
Bette

________________________________
From:John <johnqadam@...>
To:SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
Sent:Wed, February 13, 2013 7:24:12 PM
Subject:[S-R] Re: More help for Triscsik, Ondercso in areas of Sabinov,
Jarovnice


>>> I would also like some help in finding the birth/ death record of NEJTUSZ
>>>TRISCSIK, my great grandfather, but cannot find it yet.  I believe he was
born
>>>between 1850-1853, <<<

You never mentioned the religion -- which is RC.

The 1869 Hungarian Census for the family home is found at:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-28480-17987-99?cc=1986782&wc=MMRC-\
CW6:n406930707


It provides useful information about seven members of the family.




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

If you google world war I uniform images you may see what you are looking for,
otherwise there are some museums that may be able to answer your question.

Sent from Allison Weick
weickof4@...

On Feb 15, 2013, at 1:51 PM, david1law@... wrote:

> Dear Kurt:
>
> Thank you for sharing about what appears to be an awesome and excellent
> resource for those of us who also have ancestors in Southern Poland. For
> those, like myself, who do not speak Polish fluently, I would highly recommend
> using GOOGLE.COM as your browser when you input the main page at
> _http://nac.gov.pl/_ (http://nac.gov.pl/)  because GOOGLE.COM can translate
the page
> for you into English. I am just starting to look through the site, and I
> hope and pray that church records from around the KROSNO area of POLAND are
> there. Now, if I can only find someone who knows military history and can
> determine the type of uniform that my great grandfather FRANTISCEK MOSKAL
> wore in World War I, I would be very happy.
>
> Thank you again, Kurt! Dobry den!
>
> Best regards,
>
> David
>
> In a message dated 2/15/2013 2:24:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> curt67boc@... writes:
>
> For those interested in Polish genealogy or work in the Slovak Spis
> villages in Southern Poland there is good news. The Polish State Archives has
> announced that they are going to put both historical church and many other
> civil records online so they can be perused by users internationally and
> without charge. They will not be indexed by personal name (at least initially)
> but locatable by place name and group, quite similar to how we first examined
> Slovak church records inthe family history library..
>
> The first group will go online in March of this year, the second group in
> June, and then more to follow.
>
> Here is the statement of the archives, and though in Polish you can paste
> it into a translator like google and get a fair translation.
> Click on the upper left note that says Plany Publikacji...etc . Plan of
> publication...
>
> _http://nac.gov.pl/_ (http://nac.gov.pl/)
>
> or you may just want to go to the list of villages which will go online in
> March. The citation is in the middle of the document mentioned above but
> you can get to it directly. The name of the village is in the far right
> column.
>
> _http://nac.gov.pl/files/D%27ASC1_02_2013v.3.pdf_
> (http://nac.gov.pl/files/D'ASC1_02_2013v.3.pdf)
>
> Curt B.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I am glad that you are making significant progress.

Come back with outstanding questions or issues as we may lost track.

--- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, Bette Triscik <bettetina1@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks,
>  John that is house #68 and the spelling of the surnames are close. In Jernye
#
> 65 there are 4 Triscsik's listed and #65 was once listed as the home
> of NEIJTUSZ TRISCSIK and Anna Ondercso on the baptism record of their
daughter,
> Erzebet, 15 Nov, 1876. Image, Entry 44
>
>
>
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18045-83450-25?cc=1554443&wc=M99C-FVL\
:n1550137223
>
>
> Maybe both houses were homes of my family with siblings/ cousins/etc/
> I'll get more info but keep these facts.
> Bette
>
> ________________________________
> From:John <johnqadam@...>
> To:SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
> Sent:Wed, February 13, 2013 7:24:12 PM
> Subject:[S-R] Re: More help for Triscsik, Ondercso in areas of Sabinov,
> Jarovnice
>
>
> >>> I would also like some help in finding the birth/ death record of NEJTUSZ
> >>>TRISCSIK, my great grandfather, but cannot find it yet.  I believe he was
born
> >>>between 1850-1853, <<<
>
> You never mentioned the religion -- which is RC.
>
> The 1869 Hungarian Census for the family home is found at:
>
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-28480-17987-99?cc=1986782&wc=MMRC-\
CW6:n406930707
>
>
> It provides useful information about seven members of the family.
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Larry,
If you go to the "files" section of this forum, look for a file that  Eric
Hajducsek placed there named:  "1828 Hungarian Land Census Indices of Villages
and Surnames".  This file will explain how you can find the census and provides
a link to the site.
CK

--- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, lkocik@... wrote:
>
>
>
> Peter/ Carl
>
>  Where would I find the 1829 land census in PDF that you mention?
>
>  Thank you.
>
> larry
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>
> From: "htcstech" <htcstech@...>
> To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 9:13:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [S-R] 1829 Land Census
>
> It's a good resource actually. You can see the problems associated with the
> 1869 census and how only some region's data survived. All in all it's very
> patchy. I do wonder why they didn't bother to include the 1715-1720 tax
> census?
> I just hope that one day a treasure trove of census data will be found in
> the cellars and attics!
>
> Peter M.
>
> On 16 February 2013 02:21, <takukuk@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Here's another record of census and census-like archives you might
> > consider
> > as a resource:
> >
> > _http://www.demogr.mpg.de/papers/working/wp-2011-020.pdf_
> > (http://www.demogr.mpg.de/papers/working/wp-2011-020.pdf)
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 2/14/2013 4:22:04 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> > carl.kotlarchik@... writes:
> >
> > I would like to give a big thank-you to Eric Hajducsek for bringing our
> > attention to the pdf files of the 1829 Land Census. He helped me make
> > those
> > pdf images into a searchable file for Szepes County which led me to the
> > area
> > that my family was from. As a result, I finally found the original family
> > home town that I have searched for (>10 years). Then using the LDS website
> > with the slightly different surname spellings, I was able to find my
> > family
> > records. They go back to the early 1700s. Thank you Eric!
> > CK
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >  
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Hi everyone,

I have a bit of a dilemma. I am researching my Great-Grandmother's ancestors in
Kal'ava, Gelnica, Slovakia. Unfortunately, the records go from 1722-1750 and
1820-1911. According to a letter in the front of the 1820 records written half
in slovak, half in hungarian, the 1751-1819 records have been destroyed in a
fire.

I have gone to all the neighboring towns and looked through everything to try to
find births, deaths, marriages. I've only unearthed a handful of marriages.

I have also looked at the 1869 census for Kal'ava and all neighboring villages.

Anyone have any other suggestions??! I heard of something called the bishops
duplicates or "Druhopisy". Has anyone had any luck locating them for their
towns?

Thank you,
Jen

Dear Jen:

Hello!  What are the surnames that you are researching in  KALAVA?  My
great, great grandmother THERESA ONDERCIN (also spelled  ONDERCSIN and
ONDERTSIN) was from the village of KALAVA. She was the daughter of  JACOB
ONDERCIN
and MARIA KOVALCIK (also spelled KOVALCSIK and KOVALTSIK).   With our
ancestors in the same small village, I believe that there is a  good possibility
that we may have a family connection somewhere down the  line.

Below are the surnames in my direct lineage. Please feel free to write  me
directly at _David1Law@..._ (mailto:David1Law@...)  (the "1" is a
"one").  I look forward to hearing from you.

Best regards,

David


Researching the village of ROZNAVA in GEMER County // the villages of
DOMANOVCE, HRISOVCE, KIS SZALOK, KALAVA, KOLONOCZ, KLUKNAVA, MLYNICA, RICHNAVA,
SPISSKE VLACHY, STARY SMOKOVEC, SLATVINA, in SPIS County // the villages of
  DOLINA, OVCIE, SIROKE, AND VITAZ in SARIS County the following surnames:
BALOGA  (BALOG, BALOGH), BELAK, BUXAR (BUKSAR) CSUJ (CUJ), HAMRAK, HARBALY,
HARENCSAR,  HRONEC, HVIZDOS, JURASKO, KAFFAN, KISSEL, KOVALCIK, KREDATUS,
ONDERCIN,  RUSZBACZKY, TAKACS, TOMASOV, and variant spellings thereof. Also
KUBIT, MOSKAL,  ZAJDEL, WALASZCZYK, KOSIBA in BIALOBRZEGI, SUCHODOL, GLOWIENKA,
and KROSNO,  POLAND.


In a message dated 2/16/2013 9:56:00 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
jenandrasko@... writes:




Hi everyone,

I have a bit of a dilemma. I am researching my  Great-Grandmother's
ancestors in Kal'ava, Gelnica, Slovakia. Unfortunately,  the records go from
1722-1750 and 1820-1911. According to a letter in the  front of the 1820 records
written half in slovak, half in hungarian, the  1751-1819 records have been
destroyed in a fire.

I have gone to all  the neighboring towns and looked through everything to
try to find births,  deaths, marriages. I've only unearthed a handful of
marriages.

I have  also looked at the 1869 census for Kal'ava and all neighboring
villages.

Anyone have any other suggestions??! I heard of something  called the
bishops duplicates or "Druhopisy". Has anyone had any luck locating  them for
their towns?

Thank you,
Jen






[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

There is also the AustroHungarian Army page at

http://www.austro-hungarian-army.co.uk/

You can look at the bottom of the page and find a link to their discussion
forum. I have signed on before and they were very helpful at identifying a
uniform and answering other questions.

Ron
sent from my telegraph
(to steal a neat joke!)

--- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, Allison W <weickof4@...> wrote:
>
> If you google world war I uniform images you may see what you are looking for,
otherwise there are some museums that may be able to answer your question.
>
> Sent from Allison Weick
> weickof4@...
>
> On Feb 15, 2013, at 1:51 PM, david1law@... wrote:
>
> > Dear Kurt:
> >
> > Thank you for sharing about what appears to be an awesome and excellent
> > resource for those of us who also have ancestors in Southern Poland. For
> > those, like myself, who do not speak Polish fluently, I would highly
recommend
> > using GOOGLE.COM as your browser when you input the main page at
> > _http://nac.gov.pl/_ (http://nac.gov.pl/)  because GOOGLE.COM can translate
the page
> > for you into English. I am just starting to look through the site, and I
> > hope and pray that church records from around the KROSNO area of POLAND are
> > there. Now, if I can only find someone who knows military history and can
> > determine the type of uniform that my great grandfather FRANTISCEK MOSKAL
> > wore in World War I, I would be very happy.
> >
> > Thank you again, Kurt! Dobry den!
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > David
> >
> > In a message dated 2/15/2013 2:24:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > curt67boc@... writes:
> >
> > For those interested in Polish genealogy or work in the Slovak Spis
> > villages in Southern Poland there is good news. The Polish State Archives
has
> > announced that they are going to put both historical church and many other
> > civil records online so they can be perused by users internationally and
> > without charge. They will not be indexed by personal name (at least
initially)
> > but locatable by place name and group, quite similar to how we first
examined
> > Slovak church records inthe family history library..
> >
> > The first group will go online in March of this year, the second group in
> > June, and then more to follow.
> >
> > Here is the statement of the archives, and though in Polish you can paste
> > it into a translator like google and get a fair translation.
> > Click on the upper left note that says Plany Publikacji...etc . Plan of
> > publication...
> >
> > _http://nac.gov.pl/_ (http://nac.gov.pl/)
> >
> > or you may just want to go to the list of villages which will go online in
> > March. The citation is in the middle of the document mentioned above but
> > you can get to it directly. The name of the village is in the far right
> > column.
> >
> > _http://nac.gov.pl/files/D%27ASC1_02_2013v.3.pdf_
> > (http://nac.gov.pl/files/D'ASC1_02_2013v.3.pdf)
> >
> > Curt B.
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Dear Allison and Ron:

Thank you both for your tips.  I will try them.

I hope that you have a great day.  May God bless and smile upon each  of
you.

Best regards,

David


In a message dated 2/16/2013 10:57:44 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
amiak27@... writes:




There is also the AustroHungarian Army page at

_http://www.austro-hungarian-army.co.uk/_
(http://www.austro-hungarian-army.co.uk/)

You  can look at the bottom of the page and find a link to their discussion
forum.  I have signed on before and they were very helpful at identifying a
uniform  and answering other questions.

Ron
sent from my telegraph
(to  steal a neat joke!)

--- In _SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com)
,  Allison W wrote:
>
> If you google world war I uniform images you  may see what you are
looking for, otherwise there are some museums that may be  able to answer your
question.
>
> Sent from Allison Weick
>  weickof4@...
>
> On Feb 15, 2013, at 1:51 PM, david1law@...  wrote:
>
> > Dear Kurt:
> >
> > Thank you  for sharing about what appears to be an awesome and
excellent
> >  resource for those of us who also have ancestors in Southern Poland.
For
> > those, like myself, who do not speak Polish fluently, I would  highly
recommend
> > using GOOGLE.COM as your browser when you input  the main page at
> > __http://nac.gov.pl/__ (http://nac.gov.pl/_)  (_http://nac.gov.pl/_
(http://nac.gov.pl/) )  because GOOGLE.COM can translate the page
> > for you into English.  I am just starting to look through the site, and
I
> > hope and pray  that church records from around the KROSNO area of
POLAND are
> >  there. Now, if I can only find someone who knows military history and
can
> > determine the type of uniform that my great grandfather  FRANTISCEK
MOSKAL
> > wore in World War I, I would be very  happy.
> >
> > Thank you again, Kurt! Dobry den!
>  >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > David
> >
> > In a message dated 2/15/2013 2:24:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > curt67boc@... writes:
> >
> > For those  interested in Polish genealogy or work in the Slovak Spis
> >  villages in Southern Poland there is good news. The Polish State
Archives has
> > announced that they are going to put both historical church and  many
other
> > civil records online so they can be perused by users  internationally
and
> > without charge. They will not be indexed by  personal name (at least
initially)
> > but locatable by place name  and group, quite similar to how we first
examined
> > Slovak church  records inthe family history library..
> >
> > The first  group will go online in March of this year, the second group
in
> >  June, and then more to follow.
> >
> > Here is the  statement of the archives, and though in Polish you can
paste
> > it  into a translator like google and get a fair translation.
> > Click  on the upper left note that says Plany Publikacji...etc . Plan
of
>  > publication...
> >
> > __http://nac.gov.pl/__ (http://nac.gov.pl/_)  (_http://nac.gov.pl/_
(http://nac.gov.pl/) )
> >
> > or you may just want to go to the list of villages  which will go
online in
> > March. The citation is in the middle of  the document mentioned above
but
> > you can get to it directly. The  name of the village is in the far
right
> > column.
> >
> > __http://nac.gov.pl/files/D%27ASC1_02_2013v.3.pdf__
(http://nac.gov.pl/files/D'ASC1_02_2013v.3.pdf_)
> > (_http://nac.gov.pl/files/D_ (http://nac.gov.pl/files/D)
'ASC1_02_2013v.3.pdf)
> >
> > Curt B.
> >
> > [Non-text  portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been  removed]
>






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Dear All,

We thank all of you for helping to get the files area under control.  We were at
95%+ capacity last month.  We are now at ~30%.

Your moderators.

>>> I heard of something called the bishops duplicates or "Druhopisy". Has
anyone had any luck locating them for their towns? <<<

Often in the archive with the base copy but not always. For Senne, Ung Megye,
RC, they are in Satu Mare, Romania.

20 missing years of Dubravka, Zemplen Megye, GC records are in Satoraljaujhely,
Hungary.

From Bill’s website:

So-Called "Bishops Copies" or "Druhopisy" & The National Archives of Hungary

In many cases, a second copy of the church registers was made.  It was often
called a "Druhopisy" in ecclesiastical terminology.  This second copy was
mandated by the government (see Short Comment below.)  The second copy was
originally intended to be kept by the government.  These copies are today
sometimes found in a regional church administrative office or found their way
into the Slovakia State Archives.  This copy is not always to be found.  In some
cases, Certain "Bishops Copies" have been found at the National Archives of
Hungary in Satoraljaujhely, Hungary.   Satoraljaujhely was the administrative
capital of the old (pre-1918) Hungarian county of Zemplin which extended north
into today's Slovakia. [Zemplin County was somewhat unique in that it was one of
the only counties divided between Hungary and Slovakia as part of the 1918 Paris
Peace Treaty.]  Technically, all documents related to Slovakia territories
belong to Slovakia.  As the country was restructured (post WWI, post-1991) these
records were "supposed" to be transferred.  Obviously this didn't happen.  Mick
Sura and Jim Nickel have visited this archive and viewed church records from
Ruska Bystra, Snina, Stakcin and Zboj.  There are also many census records.  It
appears that hiring a researcher to extract these records from the Hungary
archives is a more effective mechanism than writing to the Hungary Archives.


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I have a copy of A Guide to the Slovak Archives in the introduction is
written:
“...,this guide is first and foremost intended as a summary and does not
contain a complete list of all the archival fonds in the archives of the Slovak
Republic. Its primary aim is to draw attention to some of the most important
fonds, which are interesting from a historical and cultural point of view. I
does not contain information about ecclesiastical and financial archives....
These are not listed among the public archives and access is only allowed by
special permission.”

From Frank Kurchina’s posting on Ancestry.com on 27 Feb 2002 1:23 PM GMT:
“During 1950-1951, the Communist government of Czechoslovakia had all the
parish churches send their old matriky (pre-1895 church records) to the regional
State Archives for safekeeping . This was done through local national committees
after the church registers were declared state property by the government.

Some parish churches kept duplicate copies of the records. Druhopisy (i.e.
second writing) was a duplicate copy known as the 'bishop's copy'. So a
duplicate of the original record may have been sent elsewhere. Some years have
both parish records and "bishop's copies". Other years have only "bishop's
copies", others only the parish registers. That can explain why a record may not
be available at the parish but still be available elsewhere. From 1828, the
parish was obliged to make a copy of entries and send them to archives, so some
records are preserved in duplicate.”

From Bill Tarkulich’s posting on Ancestry.com
       Posted: 8 Feb 2005 9:58PM GMT
      Edited: 3 Jul 2006 3:37PM GM

Let me preface my remarks by indicating that all my observations are
generalizations. As such, there will ALWAYS be exceptions and variance. Keep
this thought closely in mind.

1. While parish records were mandated in the 1600s, it was not until the 1700s
that Hungary got all the parish priests under their thumbs. Particularly true of
the small, remote, rural villages. In Slovakia, most parish records begin in the
1700s, a few in the 1600s.

2. In general the repatriation of records to successor nations drew the line
sometime after peasant emancipation (1850s). This is true mostly for civil
records (i.e., census). Most matrical records were "mostly" repatriated to the
successor nations, but not always.
Example: census records after 1850s are in Slovakia Archives, census records
prior to 1850 (for lands in Slovakia) are still with Hungary Archives.
Example: Most matrical records belonging to Slovakia are with the Slovak State
Archives. However, in cases such as Zemplin (whose county was severed as a
result of the Treaty of Trianon, some matrical records, especially Bishops'
copies are still with Hungary regional archives.

3. Why would the LDS copy a copy? In a nutshell, it's because not copy is ever
complete. Pages missing in the original, might show up in the copy (Called a
"Druhopisy"). Whatever the LDS was permitted to film, they did. If it meant
filming both the orginal and the Druhopisy, they did that.

4. Each nation has a different arrangement with the LDS. Much regional filming
in Hungary was done pre-1993. Around '95 the LDS came to agreement with the
newly formed nation of Slovakia for filming rights. In Slovakia, they hit the
jackpot - Slovakia was extrmely generous in allowing filming.

5. In 1952, the Czechoslovakia goverment ordered the confiscation of all
pre-1895 church records and put them into the State Archives. This was
coincident with beginning of church repression under Socialism. I suspect a
similar event occurred in post-ww2 Hungary.

6. For Slovakia, 1895 also represented the 100-year mark for privacy
restrictions. Records after this date are deemed private, not for general public
viewing. Consequentially no filming. That said, a number of matrical records, as
late as the 1940s ended up in the Archives (and inadvertently filmed by the LDS,
to our benefit.) These "whoops records" were generally a) villages that were
completely shut down for various reasons or b) Greek Catholic church records
(these churches were compeltely shuttered by the CSSR goverment, having been
labeled an "enemy of the state".



From: MGMojher
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 12:59 PM
To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [S-R] "Bishops Copies" or "Druhopisy"


From Bill’s website:

So-Called "Bishops Copies" or "Druhopisy" & The National Archives of Hungary

In many cases, a second copy of the church registers was made. It was often
called a "Druhopisy" in ecclesiastical terminology. This second copy was
mandated by the government (see Short Comment below.) The second copy was
originally intended to be kept by the government. These copies are today
sometimes found in a regional church administrative office or found their way
into the Slovakia State Archives. This copy is not always to be found. In some
cases, Certain "Bishops Copies" have been found at the National Archives of
Hungary in Satoraljaujhely, Hungary. Satoraljaujhely was the administrative
capital of the old (pre-1918) Hungarian county of Zemplin which extended north
into today's Slovakia. [Zemplin County was somewhat unique in that it was one of
the only counties divided between Hungary and Slovakia as part of the 1918 Paris
Peace Treaty.] Technically, all documents related to Slovakia territories belong
to Slovakia. As the country was restructured (post WWI, post-1991) these records
were "supposed" to be transferred. Obviously this didn't happen. Mick Sura and
Jim Nickel have visited this archive and viewed church records from Ruska
Bystra, Snina, Stakcin and Zboj. There are also many census records. It appears
that hiring a researcher to extract these records from the Hungary archives is a
more effective mechanism than writing to the Hungary Archives.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hello,
I am an amateur genealogist, researching my family tree. This is as far back as
I have gotten:

George (possib. Joseph as middle name) Kokinda
Born: May 1863, Austro-Hungary (he spoke Slovak)
Died: 1/1/1913, Old Forge, Pennsylvania
Immigrated: 1885
Parents: John Kokinda, and Helen "Nellie" Hospod�r.

Wife: Anna Sevcik (Seftchick)
Born: December 1862, Austro-Hungary (she spoke Slovak)
Died: 10/6/1918, Old Forge, Pennsylvania
Immigrated: 1885
Parents: Unknown.

I do know that the Kokindas who settled in Beaver Meadows,PA/Hazleton,PA/Ohio
ALL came from Lipova/Sasova/Ortutova, however I haven't found anything to
indicated that my specific branch came from there.

In addition, I am also seeking information on a Michael Kokinda who was born
8/15/1859 in Remeniny, Slovakia. He immmigrated in 1886, and changed his last
name to Cokinda. He married a Scottish woman named Margaret Fraser.

More specifically, I am trying to find the 1869 Census records for the towns of
Remeniny and Lipova (Bardejov district). Were they not part of the Census?

Hi - welcome!

There is a listing in the Slovak phone book for Michael Kokinda in Remeniny.

I have 2 people listing the Kokinda surname in my Slovak Pride data base but
they came from another Saris village

if you would like contact info for these 2 people, e mail me directly at
helenezx@....

Good luck in your searching!

helene

--- On Sat, 2/16/13, kokonutoad <crkokinda@...> wrote:

> From: kokonutoad <crkokinda@...>
> Subject: [S-R] Kokinda/Kokindo Genealogy
> To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, February 16, 2013, 7:11 PM
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>
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>       Hello,
>
> I am an amateur genealogist, researching my family tree.
> This is as far back as I have gotten:
>
>
>
> George (possib. Joseph as middle name) Kokinda
>
> Born: May 1863, Austro-Hungary (he spoke Slovak)
>
> Died: 1/1/1913, Old Forge, Pennsylvania
>
> Immigrated: 1885
>
> Parents: John Kokinda, and Helen "Nellie"
> Hospodár.
>
>
>
> Wife: Anna Sevcik (Seftchick)
>
> Born: December 1862, Austro-Hungary (she spoke Slovak)
>
> Died: 10/6/1918, Old Forge, Pennsylvania
>
> Immigrated: 1885
>
> Parents: Unknown.
>
>
>
> I do know that the Kokindas who settled in Beaver
> Meadows,PA/Hazleton,PA/Ohio ALL came from
> Lipova/Sasova/Ortutova, however I haven't found anything
> to indicated that my specific branch came from there.
>
>
>
> In addition, I am also seeking information on a Michael
> Kokinda who was born 8/15/1859 in Remeniny, Slovakia. He
> immmigrated in 1886, and changed his last name to Cokinda.
> He married a Scottish woman named Margaret Fraser.
>
>
>
> More specifically, I am trying to find the 1869 Census
> records for the towns of Remeniny and Lipova (Bardejov
> district). Were they not part of the Census?
>
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Also have been trying to find Lipova 1869 census  as grandfather John
Kokinda and grandmother Anna Chura (Csura)
immigrated from Lipova. The snag I ran into on the Family Search records was
that what is listed as Lipova in their
records is actually Lipovec , not the Lipova in the vicinity of Sasova and
Ortutova. Don’t know if Lipova just was
over looked in LDS records or the census doesn’t exist.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: kokonutoad
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 7:11 PM
To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [S-R] Kokinda/Kokindo Genealogy

Hello,
I am an amateur genealogist, researching my family tree. This is as far back
as I have gotten:

George (possib. Joseph as middle name) Kokinda
Born: May 1863, Austro-Hungary (he spoke Slovak)
Died: 1/1/1913, Old Forge, Pennsylvania
Immigrated: 1885
Parents: John Kokinda, and Helen "Nellie" Hospodár.

Wife: Anna Sevcik (Seftchick)
Born: December 1862, Austro-Hungary (she spoke Slovak)
Died: 10/6/1918, Old Forge, Pennsylvania
Immigrated: 1885
Parents: Unknown.

I do know that the Kokindas who settled in Beaver
Meadows,PA/Hazleton,PA/Ohio ALL came from Lipova/Sasova/Ortutova, however I
haven't found anything to indicated that my specific branch came from there.

In addition, I am also seeking information on a Michael Kokinda who was born
8/15/1859 in Remeniny, Slovakia. He immmigrated in 1886, and changed his
last name to Cokinda. He married a Scottish woman named Margaret Fraser.

More specifically, I am trying to find the 1869 Census records for the towns
of Remeniny and Lipova (Bardejov district). Were they not part of the
Census?




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Below is the 1995 Census listings for Kokinda. There were 95 listings in 31
locations. Below are the top 10 locations. As you see the top five are in the
okres/district of Bardejov. Okres Svidnik borders Bardejov and okres Vranov nad
Topl’ou is to the south.

Priezvisko KOKINDA sa na Slovensku v roku 1995 nachádzalo 95×, celkový počet
lokalít: 31, najčastejšie výskyty v lokalitách:
BARDEJOV, okr. BARDEJOV – 13×;
BARDEJOVSKÁ NOVÁ VES (obec BARDEJOV), okr. BARDEJOV – 7×;
ORTUŤOVÁ, okr. BARDEJOV – 7×;
LIPOVÁ, okr. BARDEJOV – 6×;
SVINICA, okr. KOŠICE-VIDIEK (od r. 1996 KOŠICE - OKOLIE) – 6×;
SÍDLISKO ŤAHANOVCE (obec KOŠICE), okr. KOŠICE – 5×;
LOMNÉ, okr. SVIDNÍK (od r. 1996 STROPKOV) – 4×;
REMENINY, okr. VRANOV NAD TOPĽOU – 4×;
STROPKOV, okr. SVIDNÍK (od r. 1996 STROPKOV) – 4×;
BANSKÉ, okr. VRANOV NAD TOPĽOU – 3×;
...
The Hospodar surname had 163 listings in 34 locations. It would be nice if there
was a match in its top 10 locations with the Kokinda locations. There are
several okres that are near okres Bardejov. Orkers Svidnik and Presov are
neighboring orkes. Michalovce and Trebisov orkers are to the south. The Kokinda
and Hospodar families are from eastern Slovakia.

Priezvisko HOSPODÁR sa na Slovensku v roku 1995 nachádzalo 163×, celkový
počet lokalít: 34, najčastejšie výskyty v lokalitách:
MICHALOVCE, okr. MICHALOVCE – 59×;
TREBIŠOV, okr. TREBIŠOV – 10×;
ZÁPAD (obec KOŠICE), okr. KOŠICE – 10×;
LOMNÉ, okr. SVIDNÍK (od r. 1996 STROPKOV) – 7×;
NITRIANSKA STREDA, okr. TOPOĽČANY – 6×;
STROPKOV, okr. SVIDNÍK (od r. 1996 STROPKOV) – 6×;
PREŠOV, okr. PREŠOV – 5×;
SVIDNÍK, okr. SVIDNÍK – 5×;
KALUŽA, okr. MICHALOVCE – 4×;
SENICA, okr. SENICA – 4×;

The Sevcik surname had 58 listings in 33 places. It does share a city with
Kokinda, Bardejov. Should you have no idea where to start your search, this at
least has a possibility. Sevcik is found in four cities in orkes Bardejov in the
list of the top 10 locations.

Priezvisko ŠEVČIK sa na Slovensku v roku 1995 nachádzalo 58×, celkový
počet lokalít: 33, najčastejšie výskyty v lokalitách:
GERLACHOV, okr. BARDEJOV – 8×;
ZÁPAD (obec KOŠICE), okr. KOŠICE – 4×;
ŽILINA, okr. ŽILINA – 3×;
BARDEJOV, okr. BARDEJOV – 3×;
JURKOVÁ VOĽA, okr. SVIDNÍK – 3×;
SNEŽNICA, okr. ČADCA (od r. 1996 KYSUCKÉ NOVÉ MESTO) – 3×;
ŠIATORSKÁ BUKOVINKA, okr. LUČENEC – 2×;
CIGEĽKA, okr. BARDEJOV – 2×;
GELNICA, okr. SPIŠSKÁ NOVÁ VES (od r. 1996 GELNICA) – 2×;
LUKOV, okr. BARDEJOV – 2×;

From: kokonutoad
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 4:11 PM
To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [S-R] Kokinda/Kokindo Genealogy


Hello,
I am an amateur genealogist, researching my family tree. This is as far back as
I have gotten:

George (possib. Joseph as middle name) Kokinda
Born: May 1863, Austro-Hungary (he spoke Slovak)
Died: 1/1/1913, Old Forge, Pennsylvania
Immigrated: 1885
Parents: John Kokinda, and Helen "Nellie" Hospodár.

Wife: Anna Sevcik (Seftchick)
Born: December 1862, Austro-Hungary (she spoke Slovak)
Died: 10/6/1918, Old Forge, Pennsylvania
Immigrated: 1885
Parents: Unknown.

I do know that the Kokindas who settled in Beaver Meadows,PA/Hazleton,PA/Ohio
ALL came from Lipova/Sasova/Ortutova, however I haven't found anything to
indicated that my specific branch came from there.

In addition, I am also seeking information on a Michael Kokinda who was born
8/15/1859 in Remeniny, Slovakia. He immmigrated in 1886, and changed his last
name to Cokinda. He married a Scottish woman named Margaret Fraser.

More specifically, I am trying to find the 1869 Census records for the towns of
Remeniny and Lipova (Bardejov district). Were they not part of the Census?





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>>> I am trying to find the 1869 Census records for the towns of Remeniny <<<

For reasons which are totally obscure, the 1869 Census is ONLY available on film
at LDS:
R�tka -- Remenye (Remeniny) -- Repejő (Repejov) Film #722771

>>> I am trying to find the 1869 Census records for .  .  . Lipova (Bardejov
district). <<<

This one is apparently missing on LDS index.

OLD NAMES of the village(town):
1773 Lippova, 1786 Lippowa, 1808 Lipov�, 1863�1902 Lipova, 1907�1913
Tapolylipp�, 1920� Lipov�

Rather than using Google or another translator to help, you can just click
on the 'EN' on the top right on the page. It will take you to their English
translation page.

Thanks for sharing this great new resource! I can't wait till March!

Gina


  1a   Polish genealogical sources
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>   Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:24 am (PST) . Posted by:   "CurtB" curtbocha
<curt67boc@...?subject=Re%3A%20Polish%20genealogical%20sources>
> For those interested in Polish genealogy or work in the Slovak Spis
> villages in Southern Poland there is good news. The Polish State Archives
> has announced that they are going to put both historical church and many
> other civil records online so they can be perused by users internationally
> and without charge. They will not be indexed by personal name (at least
> initially) but locatable by place name and group, quite similar to how we
> first examined Slovak church records inthe family history library..
>
> The first group will go online in March of this year, the second group in
> June, and then more to follow.
>
> Here is the statement of the archives, and though in Polish you can paste
> it into a translator like google and get a fair translation.
> Click on the upper left note that says Plany Publikacji...etc . Plan of
> publication...
>
> http://nac.gov.pl/
>
> or you may just want to go to the list of villages which will go online in
> March. The citation is in the middle of the document mentioned above but
> you can get to it directly. The name of the village is in the far right
> column.
>
> http://nac.gov.pl/files/D%27ASC1_02_2013v.3.pdf
>
> Curt B.


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Hello,
I found birth record of Michael KOKINDA, born Aug.17,1858 (baptized Aug.18) in
willage Remeniny (Remenye in Hungarian),Giraltovce county, Vranov nad Toplou
district, eastern Slovakia. Parents: Michael Kokinda and Maria Simak, both Greek
catholic, farmers (coloni in Latin.
If you want this record, I need your e-mail address and I will send it to you.
Zuzana

--- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "rkokinda" <rkokinda@...> wrote:
>
> Also have been trying to find Lipova 1869 census  as grandfather John
> Kokinda and grandmother Anna Chura (Csura)
> immigrated from Lipova. The snag I ran into on the Family Search records was
> that what is listed as Lipova in their
> records is actually Lipovec , not the Lipova in the vicinity of Sasova and
> Ortutova. Don’t know if Lipova just was
> over looked in LDS records or the census doesn’t exist.
> Bob
> -----Original Message-----
> From: kokonutoad
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 7:11 PM
> To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [S-R] Kokinda/Kokindo Genealogy
>
> Hello,
> I am an amateur genealogist, researching my family tree. This is as far back
> as I have gotten:
>
> George (possib. Joseph as middle name) Kokinda
> Born: May 1863, Austro-Hungary (he spoke Slovak)
> Died: 1/1/1913, Old Forge, Pennsylvania
> Immigrated: 1885
> Parents: John Kokinda, and Helen "Nellie" Hospodár.
>
> Wife: Anna Sevcik (Seftchick)
> Born: December 1862, Austro-Hungary (she spoke Slovak)
> Died: 10/6/1918, Old Forge, Pennsylvania
> Immigrated: 1885
> Parents: Unknown.
>
> I do know that the Kokindas who settled in Beaver
> Meadows,PA/Hazleton,PA/Ohio ALL came from Lipova/Sasova/Ortutova, however I
> haven't found anything to indicated that my specific branch came from there.
>
> In addition, I am also seeking information on a Michael Kokinda who was born
> 8/15/1859 in Remeniny, Slovakia. He immmigrated in 1886, and changed his
> last name to Cokinda. He married a Scottish woman named Margaret Fraser.
>
> More specifically, I am trying to find the 1869 Census records for the towns
> of Remeniny and Lipova (Bardejov district). Were they not part of the
> Census?
>
>
>
>
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Hello Zuzana, The names you mentioned are not familiar to me, but I appreciate
your sending them. I will be on the lookout for the KOKINDA name tho. Thank you,
Jackie



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From: Zuzana <zuzana177@...>
To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 6:48 PM
Subject: [S-R] Re: Kokinda/Kokindo Genealogy

 
Hello,
I found birth record of Michael KOKINDA, born Aug.17,1858 (baptized Aug.18) in
willage Remeniny (Remenye in Hungarian),Giraltovce county, Vranov nad Toplou
district, eastern Slovakia. Parents: Michael Kokinda and Maria Simak, both Greek
catholic, farmers (coloni in Latin.
If you want this record, I need your e-mail address and I will send it to you.
Zuzana

--- In mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com, "rkokinda" wrote:
>
> Also have been trying to find Lipova 1869 census as grandfather John
> Kokinda and grandmother Anna Chura (Csura)
> immigrated from Lipova. The snag I ran into on the Family Search records was
> that what is listed as Lipova in their
> records is actually Lipovec , not the Lipova in the vicinity of Sasova and
> Ortutova. Don’t know if Lipova just was
> over looked in LDS records or the census doesn’t exist.
> Bob
> -----Original Message-----
> From: kokonutoad
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 7:11 PM
> To: mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS%40yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [S-R] Kokinda/Kokindo Genealogy
>
> Hello,
> I am an amateur genealogist, researching my family tree. This is as far back
> as I have gotten:
>
> George (possib. Joseph as middle name) Kokinda
> Born: May 1863, Austro-Hungary (he spoke Slovak)
> Died: 1/1/1913, Old Forge, Pennsylvania
> Immigrated: 1885
> Parents: John Kokinda, and Helen "Nellie" Hospodár.
>
> Wife: Anna Sevcik (Seftchick)
> Born: December 1862, Austro-Hungary (she spoke Slovak)
> Died: 10/6/1918, Old Forge, Pennsylvania
> Immigrated: 1885
> Parents: Unknown.
>
> I do know that the Kokindas who settled in Beaver
> Meadows,PA/Hazleton,PA/Ohio ALL came from Lipova/Sasova/Ortutova, however I
> haven't found anything to indicated that my specific branch came from there.
>
> In addition, I am also seeking information on a Michael Kokinda who was born
> 8/15/1859 in Remeniny, Slovakia. He immmigrated in 1886, and changed his
> last name to Cokinda. He married a Scottish woman named Margaret Fraser.
>
> More specifically, I am trying to find the 1869 Census records for the towns
> of Remeniny and Lipova (Bardejov district). Were they not part of the
> Census?
>
>
>
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