Thanks, I will do that.

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: genealogyslovakia
   To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 12:55 PM
   Subject: [S-R] Re: new yahoo Slovakia Birth Records forum


   Share your photos of your ancestry village on:
   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/slovakiabirthrecords/
   juraj
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   I have created this forum last week.





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There are frequent occasions when folks talk about the origin of their
ancestors and they use modern day names for the location of origin.  Some of
the names did not come into existence until years after the ancestors
departed the country of origin and moved on to other countries.  The
following list is the result of my research and I welcome any corrections or
additions.



The information is provided in the order of Effective Date, Country Name,
Included territories.  Your attention to called to the terms Czecho-Slovakia
and Czechoslovakia.  The use of the hyphen or absence of the hyphen changed
from time to time.



I would appreciate your assistance in providing corrections or additions.
Please provide a source or reference for your information.



1867 to 1918, Austria-Hungary Dual Monarchy, Ausgleich of 1867 formed the
Empire of Austia and Kingdom of Hungary.

1867, Empire of Austria, Includes Lower Austria, Upper Austria, Salzburg,
Tirol, Vorarlberg, Bohemia, Moravia,Silesia and Galicia.

1908, Empire of Austria, Austria annexes Bosnia and Herzegovina.

10/28/1918 to 1920, Czecho-Slovakia, Includes Bohemia, Moravia and Silesia.

11/12/1918, Republic of Austria, Name change.

11/14/1918 to 1920, Czecho-Slovakia, Slovakia added and became a part of
Czechoslovakia.

1919 to 1920, Czecho-Slovakia, Ruthenia added.

1920 to 1938, Czechoslovakia, Includes Bohemia, Moravia and Slovakia.

1938 to 1939, Czecho-Slovakia, Includes Bohemia, Moravia and Slovakia.

3/12/1938, Austria, Forcibly absorbed into Nazi Germany's Third Reich.

3/14/1939, Kingdom of Hungary, Carpatho-Ukraine incorporated into Hungary.

3/14/1939 to 4/4/1945, Slovak Republic, Slovakia or Slovak State.

3/16/1939 Republic of Slovakia, Slovakia became a Protectorate of the German
Reich.

3/16/1939 to 1945, Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia, Bohemia and Moravia
(Czech lands incorporated in the German Reich).

1945 to 1990, Czechoslovakia, Bohemia, Moravia and Slovakia.

2/1/1946, Republic of Hungary, Hungary proclaimed a republic.

8/1949 to 10/23/1989, Communist People's Republic of Hungary,  Communist
control of the republic.
5/15/1955, Republic of Austria, Full independence by the Austrian State
Treaty.

8/21/1968, Czechoslovak Socialist Republic, Warsaw Pact forces occupied
Czechoslovakia.

1990 to 1992, Czecho-Slovakia and Czechoslovakia, Slovak spelling with
hyphen, Czech spelling without hyphen.

1/1/1993, Czech Republic, Bohemia and Moravia.

1/1/1993, Slovakia or Slovak Republic, Slovakia





Frank R. Plichta

Galax, Virginia





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My great grandparents were Emery and Mary Fabery (Maiden name
Baran).   I believe the name is originally Fabry, but over the years I
have seen it with many different spellings.  The earliest
documentation that I have for them is 1890 with their marriage
license.  Also naturalization records for Emery indicated that he was
from Austria.  My slovak roots are in Fayette County, PA and
Westmoreland, PA.  Eventually they settled in Uniontown, PA and that
is where they are buried.  I still cannot find any documentation that
indicates any villages or towns where they were born.

Anna Cerva is the sister of Emery and she spent most of her life in
Luzerne County, PA and then settled in Greensburg, PA. Currently I am
researching this family in hopes to find something indicating where
are they from.

Thank you.

Cindy Cooney

Good job Frank.  Thanks.
Most of our ancestors in the Czech-Slovak-Rusyn sphere never identified
themselves as being in Austria.  Hungary continued to rule the internal
affairs our lands even during the dual monarchy.  Even the troops were
recruited by the Kingdom of Hungary, although Austria ostensibly handled all
outward-facing matters such as one united army, diplomacy, etc.
Bill

-----Original Message-----
From: frank.r.plichta@... [mailto:frank.r.plichta@...]
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 10:44 PM
To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [S-R] Country Name Changes thru History

There are frequent occasions when folks talk about the origin of their
ancestors and they use modern day names for the location of origin.  Some of
the names did not come into existence until years after the ancestors
departed the country of origin and moved on to other countries.  The
following list is the result of my research and I welcome any corrections or
additions.



The information is provided in the order of Effective Date, Country Name,
Included territories.  Your attention to called to the terms Czecho-Slovakia
and Czechoslovakia.  The use of the hyphen or absence of the hyphen changed
from time to time.



I would appreciate your assistance in providing corrections or additions.
Please provide a source or reference for your information.



1867 to 1918, Austria-Hungary Dual Monarchy, Ausgleich of 1867 formed the
Empire of Austia and Kingdom of Hungary.

1867, Empire of Austria, Includes Lower Austria, Upper Austria, Salzburg,
Tirol, Vorarlberg, Bohemia, Moravia,Silesia and Galicia.

1908, Empire of Austria, Austria annexes Bosnia and Herzegovina.

10/28/1918 to 1920, Czecho-Slovakia, Includes Bohemia, Moravia and Silesia.

11/12/1918, Republic of Austria, Name change.

11/14/1918 to 1920, Czecho-Slovakia, Slovakia added and became a part of
Czechoslovakia.

1919 to 1920, Czecho-Slovakia, Ruthenia added.

1920 to 1938, Czechoslovakia, Includes Bohemia, Moravia and Slovakia.

1938 to 1939, Czecho-Slovakia, Includes Bohemia, Moravia and Slovakia.

3/12/1938, Austria, Forcibly absorbed into Nazi Germany's Third Reich.

3/14/1939, Kingdom of Hungary, Carpatho-Ukraine incorporated into Hungary.

3/14/1939 to 4/4/1945, Slovak Republic, Slovakia or Slovak State.

3/16/1939 Republic of Slovakia, Slovakia became a Protectorate of the German
Reich.

3/16/1939 to 1945, Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia, Bohemia and Moravia
(Czech lands incorporated in the German Reich).

1945 to 1990, Czechoslovakia, Bohemia, Moravia and Slovakia.

2/1/1946, Republic of Hungary, Hungary proclaimed a republic.

8/1949 to 10/23/1989, Communist People's Republic of Hungary,  Communist
control of the republic.
5/15/1955, Republic of Austria, Full independence by the Austrian State
Treaty.

8/21/1968, Czechoslovak Socialist Republic, Warsaw Pact forces occupied
Czechoslovakia.

1990 to 1992, Czecho-Slovakia and Czechoslovakia, Slovak spelling with
hyphen, Czech spelling without hyphen.

1/1/1993, Czech Republic, Bohemia and Moravia.

1/1/1993, Slovakia or Slovak Republic, Slovakia





Frank R. Plichta

Galax, Virginia





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Cindy,
   You will find there are "Fabry" surnames in Spis county in
Eastern Slovakia.  One village I'm aware of is Olsavka.  Not sure
if it goes by the same name now or not.  This would be in the area
of Zsegra, Dubrava, NW of Kosice.  I know of an Anna Fabry, born 1903,
who married a Joannes (John) Czmorej Jan 17, 1921.  Her parents were
Paulus Fabry and Mara Brindza.  I'm aware of the connection because I
do research on the "Czmorej" surname.  I'm also aware that they moved
to Cleveland, OH for a while but returned to Slovakia about the time
of the Depression in the US.
R/Bill

--- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "historytracker"
<historytracker@...> wrote:
>
> My great grandparents were Emery and Mary Fabery (Maiden name
> Baran).   I believe the name is originally Fabry, but over the years I
> have seen it with many different spellings.  The earliest
> documentation that I have for them is 1890 with their marriage
> license.  Also naturalization records for Emery indicated that he was
> from Austria.  My slovak roots are in Fayette County, PA and
> Westmoreland, PA.  Eventually they settled in Uniontown, PA and that
> is where they are buried.  I still cannot find any documentation that
> indicates any villages or towns where they were born.
>
> Anna Cerva is the sister of Emery and she spent most of her life in
> Luzerne County, PA and then settled in Greensburg, PA. Currently I am
> researching this family in hopes to find something indicating where
> are they from.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Cindy Cooney
>

Cindy;

   My maternal grandfather was Ferdinand Victor Fabry, born 21 March 1881 in
Trstena, Orava; Ferdinand was the son of Karol Fabry, who was born on 2 November
1853 in Trstena; Ferdinand's grandfather was Jozef Fabry who was born on 26 June
1814 in Trstena; Ferdinand's great-grandfather was Stefan Fabry, date and place
of birth unknown, according to information received from a second cousin some
years ago.

   Ferdinand Victor Fabry married Kornelia Zahor, who was born circa 1868 to 1870
in Svaty Mikulas (Liptovsky Mikulas) after immigrating to Cleveland, OH.

   BTW, somewhere a while back I found the following about the surname "Fabry"
somewhere on the Internet:

   "What does the fabry name mean?
   Last Name: fabry
   Slovak and Hungarian (Fábry): occupational name for a blacksmith or
ironworker, from a derivative of Latin faber ‘craftsman’.
   Southern French: variant of Fabre."

   Regards,

   Florian
   Roll Call - Looking for Fabery (sp?) and Cerva   Posted by: "historytracker"
historytracker@...   historytracker   Sat Jun 2, 2007 1:05 am (PST)   My
great grandparents were Emery and Mary Fabery (Maiden name
Baran). I believe the name is originally Fabry, but over the years I
have seen it with many different spellings. The earliest
documentation that I have for them is 1890 with their marriage
license. Also naturalization records for Emery indicated that he was
from Austria. My slovak roots are in Fayette County, PA and
Westmoreland, PA. Eventually they settled in Uniontown, PA and that
is where they are buried. I still cannot find any documentation that
indicates any villages or towns where they were born.

Anna Cerva is the sister of Emery and she spent most of her life in
Luzerne County, PA and then settled in Greensburg, PA. Currently I am
researching this family in hopes to find something indicating where
are they from.

Thank you.

Cindy Cooney


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My grandparents (and one great-grandparent) were my Slovak immigrant
ancestors; they landed in New York City, stayed there a while, went
to London Ontario for a couple of years and then back to NYC for a
while, then settled permanently in central Michigan.

I've never been able to figure out why they went to London, and no
one (their children) seemed to know, either.  They went to London
sometime between Feb 1913 (married then in NYC) and January 1914
(first child was born then, in London).  They were back in NYC again
in Nov 1916, when their second child was born.

Their son never ended up with a Canadian birth certificate, so I
don't know where they lived in London.  (And yes, that caused various
hassles in his adult life!)

Could there have been a Slovak community in London?  If so, was there
a particular neighborhood or Catholic parish (baptismal record to
search for!) that Slovaks tended to live in?  I wonder if there was
some economic opportunity that was either short-term, or just didn't
work out for them.

Thanks for any insight.

Julie Michutka
jmm@...

There are/were also Fabry families in the Turiec Valley towards the north end of
the valley around Valca and Martin.

"Florian C. Simala, Jr." <floriansimala@...> wrote:          Cindy;

My maternal grandfather was Ferdinand Victor Fabry, born 21 March 1881 in
Trstena, Orava; Ferdinand was the son of Karol Fabry, who was born on 2 November
1853 in Trstena; Ferdinand's grandfather was Jozef Fabry who was born on 26 June
1814 in Trstena; Ferdinand's great-grandfather was Stefan Fabry, date and place
of birth unknown, according to information received from a second cousin some
years ago.

Ferdinand Victor Fabry married Kornelia Zahor, who was born circa 1868 to 1870
in Svaty Mikulas (Liptovsky Mikulas) after immigrating to Cleveland, OH.

BTW, somewhere a while back I found the following about the surname "Fabry"
somewhere on the Internet:

"What does the fabry name mean?
Last Name: fabry
Slovak and Hungarian (Fábry): occupational name for a blacksmith or ironworker,
from a derivative of Latin faber ‘craftsman’.
Southern French: variant of Fabre."

Regards,

Florian
Roll Call - Looking for Fabery (sp?) and Cerva Posted by: "historytracker"
historytracker@... historytracker Sat Jun 2, 2007 1:05 am (PST) My great
grandparents were Emery and Mary Fabery (Maiden name
Baran). I believe the name is originally Fabry, but over the years I
have seen it with many different spellings. The earliest
documentation that I have for them is 1890 with their marriage
license. Also naturalization records for Emery indicated that he was
from Austria. My slovak roots are in Fayette County, PA and
Westmoreland, PA. Eventually they settled in Uniontown, PA and that
is where they are buried. I still cannot find any documentation that
indicates any villages or towns where they were born.

Anna Cerva is the sister of Emery and she spent most of her life in
Luzerne County, PA and then settled in Greensburg, PA. Currently I am
researching this family in hopes to find something indicating where
are they from.

Thank you.

Cindy Cooney

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My father's aunt Barbara married a John Fabry in Bridgeport CT circa 1905-07. 
He was from somewhere in south central Slovakia.  I can look it up if anyone is
interested.  It was spelled Fabri when he first arrived.
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Margo Smith
   To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 12:16 PM
   Subject: Re: [S-R] Re:Roll Call - Looking for Fabery (sp?) and Cerva


   There are/were also Fabry families in the Turiec Valley towards the north end
of the valley around Valca and Martin.

   "Florian C. Simala, Jr." <floriansimala@...> wrote: Cindy;

   My maternal grandfather was Ferdinand Victor Fabry, born 21 March 1881 in
Trstena, Orava; Ferdinand was the son of Karol Fabry, who was born on 2 November
1853 in Trstena; Ferdinand's grandfather was Jozef Fabry who was born on 26 June
1814 in Trstena; Ferdinand's great-grandfather was Stefan Fabry, date and place
of birth unknown, according to information received from a second cousin some
years ago.

   Ferdinand Victor Fabry married Kornelia Zahor, who was born circa 1868 to 1870
in Svaty Mikulas (Liptovsky Mikulas) after immigrating to Cleveland, OH.

   BTW, somewhere a while back I found the following about the surname "Fabry"
somewhere on the Internet:

   "What does the fabry name mean?
   Last Name: fabry
   Slovak and Hungarian (Fábry): occupational name for a blacksmith or
ironworker, from a derivative of Latin faber 'craftsman'.
   Southern French: variant of Fabre."

   Regards,

   Florian
   Roll Call - Looking for Fabery (sp?) and Cerva Posted by: "historytracker"
historytracker@... historytracker Sat Jun 2, 2007 1:05 am (PST) My great
grandparents were Emery and Mary Fabery (Maiden name
   Baran). I believe the name is originally Fabry, but over the years I
   have seen it with many different spellings. The earliest
   documentation that I have for them is 1890 with their marriage
   license. Also naturalization records for Emery indicated that he was
   from Austria. My slovak roots are in Fayette County, PA and
   Westmoreland, PA. Eventually they settled in Uniontown, PA and that
   is where they are buried. I still cannot find any documentation that
   indicates any villages or towns where they were born.

   Anna Cerva is the sister of Emery and she spent most of her life in
   Luzerne County, PA and then settled in Greensburg, PA. Currently I am
   researching this family in hopes to find something indicating where
   are they from.

   Thank you.

   Cindy Cooney

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Al,
I'm curious about your Djurica family.
My gr grandmother was Maria Dzuricza born in Csépánfalu, now Markusovce in
1849.  She married Stefan Csejkel.  Sound familiar?

Marilyn Hertenstein

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From: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Al Stoffa
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 7:04 AM
To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [S-R] Free Ancestry Military Records



I believe the records are free until 6 June. There are indexed WWI and
WWII draft registrations. Some of the WWI draft registrations include
towns where born.

http://www.ancestry
<http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/default.aspx?rt=39&o_iid=30795&o_lid
=30795> .com/search/rectype/default.aspx?rt=39&o_iid=30795&o_lid=30795

Al Stoffa
Researching STOFA and TOMAS from the Humenne area, GREGA and DJURICA
(JURICA, DURICA) from somewhere in Slovakia. All settled in the
Freeland, Luzerne Co., PA area 1890-1900.






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1996 29,9
1997 32,2
1998 35,1
1999 36,8
2000 41,7
2001 46,5
2002 48,0
2003 39,25
2004 32,3
2005 29,3
2006 31,0
2007 26,7

Vladimir


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... and parity within a decade!
cheers
A
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> 1997 32,2
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> 2001 46,5
> 2002 48,0
> 2003 39,25
> 2004 32,3
> 2005 29,3
> 2006 31,0
> 2007 26,7
>
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was never distributed to the list.)

Kay, those sound like Carpatho-Rusyn names to me -- Bajcura and
Jalč. Were your relatives Byzantine/Greek Catholic? If so, they were
almost certainly from northeastern Slovakia and were ethnically
Carpatho-Rusyn.  The family Bajcura comes mainly from the village of
Čabiny and Jalč comes from Čabalovce, both in the Medzilaborce
(Zemplin county) district north of Humenne, Slovakia. Members of
these families lived in Pittsburgh and Lyndora/Butler, Pa. (north of
Pittsburgh).

www.c-rs.org
www.carpatho-rusyn.org

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wrote:
>
> I have belong to this group for awhile but just starting out
looking
> for relatives in Czech Republic and Slovakia.  But where would one
> start I know the last name is Bycura (spelled differently when
they
> came over to the US--I believe the spelling used to be Bycara or
> Bycuara)  I know my relatives are from Bratislava and Prague. The
other
> name was Yalech (which the spelling was also changed when they
came to
> the US in the late 1890s to early 1900s.) Any help for someone
where to
> start, it can be very overwelming especially on where to begin.  I
> appreciate anyones assistance on it!
>
>
> dekuji (Thank you),
>
> Kay
>

Many of our ancestors came from Europe to or through Pennsylvania
early in the last century.  There are some pretty good electronic map
collections of Pennsylvania on line.  You can explore these a bit for
a glimpse of the Pennsylvania as the knew it.

A large (1770kb) overall map is at
fermi.jhuapl.edu/states/1895/pa_1895.jpg
Which shows a much smaller Pittsburgh than we think of today.
Unfortunately it seems to show major roads but not the railroads that
were likely our ancestor's mode of travel.
A larger view of the Allegheny County / Pittsburgh area is at
http://www.livgenmi.com/1895/PA/County/allegheny.htm
which also leads to indexes of other parts of the US in 1895.

Detailed areas of Pennsylvania are on line at The Broer Map Library
http://www.broermapsonline.org/members/NorthAmerica/UnitedStates/Midatlantic/Pen\
nsylvania/index.html#13
or http://tinyurl.com/ysv4ao

A selection for the Philadelphia area is at
http://www.wardmaps.com/viewatlas.php?atlas_id=71

Finally, check out http://www.bhocutt.com/76/maps.htm for a selection
of County maps to chose from.

Ron

Just went through 250+ e-mails, most about the roll call.  Since I have been
busy moving Ihave not had a chance to put my 2 cents worth into the roll.  Here
is all I can give at this moment:

   Paternal grandfather was John Hanyak (Jan Hanak) from the village of Strocin. 
Came to stay with his brother George in Duquesne, PA.  Later brought his wife
(Anna Jenca also of Strocin) over.  My father was born in Duquesne in 1927, but
my Grandfather decided to return to the Old Country soon thereafter (not certain
of the date).  Two daughters were also born--Anne and Maria.  Sometime in the
mid 1930's my grandfather returned to the US, leaving the family behind, and
resettleing in Duquesne before moving to West Mifflin.  In 1947 my father
returned to Duquesne and later brought his mother and sister Anne over as well. 
My Aunt Maria remained in Slovakia as she was married (Yencho) by that time.  I
have found nothing concerning when my grandparents and Aunt came back to the
States.

   Maternal grandfather was Martin Pluchta (Mihaly Plyuchta/Pljuhta) who married
Mary Dzemyan) in Rankin, PA. in 1928.

   Bill Tarkulich, your article about the Carpatho-Dukla Operation answered on
our my family's mystery.  Dad would often talk about the war being around the
village of Strocin, but only in general terms.  Reading about the Dukla Pass
battles showed me that this was his "war" that he never talked about.  Thanks.

   Jack Hanyak


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My father's sister Sophie Gnall married a John Hanyak (born Mar. 14, 1911) in
Syracuse, NY.  She was a second wife to John but I know very little information
on them.

I was wondering if you were related or had any information.

Joan Hendershot

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Hi Jack:

It may just be a coincidence because of the far distances, but in my BALOGA
(BALOG) clan in the Saris Highlands west of PRESOV, both the HANAK and JENCA
surnames appear, in the villages of SIROKE, VITAZ, OVCIE, and DOLINA.  An
ANDREAS HANAK was the godfather of my great, great grandfather JAN BALOGA (born
1823), and the JENCA (JENCSA/JENTSA) surname appears in my extended  family.
In the church records for SIROKE, I have seen a number of  instances where
persons originally came from GALICIA, so the distance cannot be  ruled out
entirely.  I am not sure if there is any relation, but I  thought I would let
you
know anyway, just in case.  I wish you well in  your search.

Best regards,


David Michael Baloga



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Researching the following names;
Arvay/Arvai
Czimer
Marsovszky
Gregor
Kovacs

All from Gomor Megye.

Only 2 Arvay/Arvai`s came out that we know of, Gyula Arvay (My
Grandfather)who went to Ontario Canada and his brother Istvan Arvai who
went to Pennsylvania, then moved to Wayne County Michigan USA.

Thank You,
Rebecca

http://home.cogeco.ca/~arvayx11/

Greetings,
	 Well, it is interesting to see how the exchange rates have fluctuated
over time.  Those of us who are living in Bratislava and who are paid in
dollars are feeling the impact.  The moderate increase in market basket
prices combined with the loss of nearly 25% of the dollar's value since
I got here in November 2005 has caused the cost of living to rise quite
a bit.  It's also hurting the market for US products in this part of the
world. Not that I'm complaining about being able to live and work in
Bratislava for a couple of years but one does feel the change when it is
that significant.

Paul in Bratislava
Homebase in Carlisle, PA, USA

This month's wallpaper features a cabin in Horny Tisovnik, Slovak Republic.

Horný Tisovník is a village and municipality in Detva District, in the
Banská Bystrica Region of central Slovakia.

The Postcode for Horny Tisovnik is 962 75 and the phone code is 045.

The earliest recorded mention of Horny Tisovnik was in 1573

The Print is signed by the artist, Miroslav Matuscin.

Miroslav is from the village of Králiky near Tajov in the Banská Bystrica
district of Slovakia.

He is known in Slovakia for his folk architecture sketches.

The original print #11 of 100 is on auction at eBay with the auction ending
on June 13, 2007

www.iarelative.com/history/tisovnik.htm

Be sure to check the other background images available too.

My personal favorite is still Presburg (Bratislava) Castle.

Greg Kopchak
www.iarelative.com

I am not sure if there was a large Slovak community but I have found some of
them settled in a small community called Batawa.  This was a company town
created by the Bata shoe company.  Houseing was provided by the company etc.
My Great Uncle and his wife settled there.  Batawa has become a suburb of the
larger city now.  It might not help but it may be a jumping off point for you.


Quoting "J. Michutka" <jmm@...>:

> My grandparents (and one great-grandparent) were my Slovak immigrant
> ancestors; they landed in New York City, stayed there a while, went
> to London Ontario for a couple of years and then back to NYC for a
> while, then settled permanently in central Michigan.
>
> I've never been able to figure out why they went to London, and no
> one (their children) seemed to know, either.  They went to London
> sometime between Feb 1913 (married then in NYC) and January 1914
> (first child was born then, in London).  They were back in NYC again
> in Nov 1916, when their second child was born.
>
> Their son never ended up with a Canadian birth certificate, so I
> don't know where they lived in London.  (And yes, that caused various
> hassles in his adult life!)
>
> Could there have been a Slovak community in London?  If so, was there
> a particular neighborhood or Catholic parish (baptismal record to
> search for!) that Slovaks tended to live in?  I wonder if there was
> some economic opportunity that was either short-term, or just didn't
> work out for them.
>
> Thanks for any insight.
>
> Julie Michutka
> jmm@...
>
>

Thank you!  Interesting connection--my grandfather's brother was in
the shoe business in their home village in Slovakia.  This is
definitely worth following up on; thanks for the lead.

Julie Michutka
jmm@...

At 11:15 AM 6/4/2007, you wrote:

>I am not sure if there was a large Slovak community but I have found some of
>them settled in a small community called Batawa. This was a company town
>created by the Bata shoe company. Houseing was provided by the company etc.
>My Great Uncle and his wife settled there. Batawa has become a suburb of the
>larger city now. It might not help but it may be a jumping off point for you.

I am researching a family for a friend.  They came from Uhorsky Z~ipov, which in
Hungarian is Magyarizsep.  I'm leaving off a few accent marks.  What does this
name mean -- Hungarian or Magyar what?  Second question:  some married women in
passenger lists are identified by husband's first name followd by -ne and others
by -ul.  Can anyone explain why?

I'm so thankful for your help.


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>>> They came from Uhorsky Z~ipov, which in Hungarian is Magyarizsep.
<<<

Nižný Žipov, Slovakia, formerly Magyar-Izsép (or Isep), Zemplen,
Hungary, 8 km southeast of Trebisov as the crowm flies. Much further by
road.

Thanks, I'm wondering what the word Z~ipov means, if anything.


   ----- Original Message -----
   From: johnqadam
   To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 7:50 AM
   Subject: [S-R] Re: Two questions on translation


   >>> They came from Uhorsky Z~ipov, which in Hungarian is Magyarizsep.
   <<<

   Nizný Zipov, Slovakia, formerly Magyar-Izsép (or Isep), Zemplen,
   Hungary, 8 km southeast of Trebisov as the crowm flies. Much further by
   road.





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Dont know if I asked this before but where is  Korlatko?Trying to pinpoint where
one family came from?as best as i can read it looks like korlatko.ThanksDavid





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Ok I think I found the info, sorry for asking.  But what I have is Korlatko=
Cerova, LieskoveDaveTo: slovak-roots@...:
maze_r@...: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 13:44:53 -0700Subject: [S-R] Location:  
Korlatko


















             Dont know if I asked this before but where is  Korlatko?Trying to
pinpoint where one family came from?as best as i can read it looks like
korlatko.ThanksDavid

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Hi David,
    I saw your 6/3/07 post to the group. I have been helping a friend
research his family 's "trail". Do you have any village of origination info
for ANNA JENCA? She married Georgius Szauko, from Szvidnik, but, not in
Szvidnik. Their daughter, Maria, was born in Szvidnik, 1884. Another child,
Georgius, was born in Beaver Meadow, PA, by 1892. The marriage of these
parents could have been anytime around 1878 to 1883.
    I tell my friend that it is imperative to find Jenca's village, probable
wedding site--and the only way to be certain he is tracking the "right"
line. Any help you can provide will be greatly appreciated.
Marsha



on 6/3/07 7:46 PM, david1law@... at david1law@... wrote:

Hi Jack:

It may just be a coincidence because of the far distances, but in my BALOGA
(BALOG) clan in the Saris Highlands west of PRESOV, both the HANAK and JENCA
surnames appear, in the villages of SIROKE, VITAZ, OVCIE, and DOLINA.  An
ANDREAS HANAK was the godfather of my great, great grandfather JAN BALOGA
(born
1823), and the JENCA (JENCSA/JENTSA) surname appears in my extended  family.
In the church records for SIROKE, I have seen a number of  instances where
persons originally came from GALICIA, so the distance cannot be  ruled out
entirely.  I am not sure if there is any relation, but I  thought I would
let you
know anyway, just in case.  I wish you well in  your search.

Best regards,


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Wow thanks Linda.  A very honest look at the problems I could encounter.  This
can really help me get prepared.  Especially the ATM/Credit Card thing.  I may
be writing you soon as the time approaches with more questions.

Can you recommend any places to stay?  Towns we could possibly stay in would be
Prague, Bratislava, Kosice.

Thanks again to everyone.  You have really given me great help and information.

Karen






----- Original Message ----
From: Linda Hartlaub <ljhartlaub@...>
To: Karens_roots@...
Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2007 10:40:49 PM
Subject: Re: [S-R] Traveling in Czech and Slovakia


Hi Karen,

I am a little late in checking my mail. But I thought I would let you know my
experiences.  What everyone said is the standard and usually works.  Be sure to
notify your credit card companies in wirting and by phone that you are going to
be in Europe.  However, even after I did that, my credit cards were classified
as "hot" within 5 days of entering Europe.  I was without money.  ATMs ate my
cards.I had about $300 cash (American), and that was not enough. In hindsight, I
would have carried at least $500 and divied it up between purse, suitcases,
carry ons, etc.  I literally got stranded in Kosice (where about 2% of the
population speaks English) and thankfully had a translator.  However, even with
him working with me, we wasted half a day at the bank trying to convince them
that I was legitimate and not a thief.  However, in Bratislava and Banska
Bystrica I was on my own dealing with the bank officers.  Not an easy task.

Should you get stuck, I have since learned that you can funds wired to you
through Western Union to Slovakia.  There are offices for Western Union
everywhere. You can find Western Union offices in the States at Safeway, Von's,
and other groceries that are in their corporation.

And as far as pickpockets, the only problems we had were with the Roma in
Kosice.  We guarded our purses and bags with our lives. And finally resorted to
spouting out any Spanish words we could come up with, sounding demented if
anyone understood Spanish.  But the Roma figured we weren't understanding us and
left us alone.

If you have any other questions, please feel free to contact me.  I'll tell you
what I can.

Linda Hartlaub


----- Original Message -----
From: "helene cincebeaux"
To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [S-R] Traveling in Czech and Slovakia
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 19:14:54 -0700 (PDT)

Hi Karen

Usually no problem taking a rental across
Czech-Slovak border just be sure to get the sticker if
you want to use the super highway in Slovakia - can
get at bigger gas stations or on border. But ask
about taking the car across the border when you rent
just to be sure.

Found that if you rent from some firms in Austria they
charge a big surcharge for going into former E.
European countries.

Don't know any American who had to buy or prove they
had health insurance for a simple visit

ATM's seem to work fine all the time.

Where are you going in Slovakia? And when?

helene

--- Karen C <karens_roots@ yahoo.com> wrote:

> Since so many of you have travelled to the Czech
> Republic and Slovakia I was wondering if you could
> answer a few questions?
>
> Is there a problem with taking a rental car across
> the border from Czech Rep. to Slovakia?
>
> We're you required to buy the health travel
> insurance?
>
> We're you able to get money on the weekends in the
> larger cities through ATMs?
>
> You responses will be very welcomed.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Karen
>
>
>
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