Sending  info on a CGSI meeting spotlighting Slovakia and Slovaks:

   The Czechoslovak Genealogical Society International
(CGSI) is sponsoring a program this coming February
24, 2007 in Minneapolis, Minnesota, entitled, SLOVAKS:
HERE AND THERE.

       A program featuring Slovaks old and young, of many
times and places

Saturday afternoon, February 24, 2007
St. Cyril & Methodius Slovak Catholic Church
(handicapped accessible)
1315 NE 2nd St., Minneapolis, MN 55413
(Free parking accessible from 3rd St side; served by
#11 bus line)

Suggested Donation:  $5 members, $8 non-members

12:30 p.m. Registration and Sales Table
Ann Cizek     Tour of this historic 1891 church
with church member [optional]

1:00 p.m. Program:
Don Pafko            The Twin Cities Slovak Pioneer
Community

Katarina Vilimova
   CGSI-sponsored Essays by 36
Slovak Students
    English language summaries of the 2005 family
history essays will be available.

   Susan Marcinkus
  “Pictures from the Old Country” (film, 30 min.)
    Filmmaker Marcinkus will present film and discuss
her family search and visit.

This program is sponsored by the
CZECHOSLOVAK GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY INTERNATIONAL
P.O. Box 16225,    St. Paul, MN  55116-0225
Visit us at:
www.cgsi.org

For more information, contact:
Dottie Spiedel, Quarterly Meeting Organizer
612-870-8062    dottie@...
or
Chuck Romportl, CGSI Publicity
952-935-9751    cromportl@...

helene



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When I was searching for the Hamara surname in Zeleznik, Slovakia
(suburb of Giraltovce) I was directed to a small town north of
Presov.  There I met my Hamara family line for the first time.  I
believe that there are three or four Hamara family lines in
Slovakia.  The Hamara I met was married to an Antolik and we
became good friends.  Over the years I found out that the Hamara's
and Antoliks intermarried often and were in business together in
the US and Slovakia.  My mothers, fathers, oldest brother, Andrew
Hamara was in business with a Antolik in Streator, Illinois.

They were Lutheran.

Dan Kisha  daniel.kisha@...
Slovak Import Company
New WWW Address:  http://www.slovakic.com
<http://www.slovakic.com/>
Ebay WWW Address:
http://www.ebaystores.ebay.com/slovakimportcompany?refid=store
Phone number in the US: 410 273 1149



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Julianna,

There are many Antolik family in America. In the Luzerne county
there is at least more than one that i am aware of.
Rick

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From: Richard & Julianna Zarzycki <julianna@epix.
<mailto:julianna%40epix.net> net>

1a. Antolik
Posted by: "James McGrath" jamesfrankmcgrath@
<mailto:jamesfrankmcgrath%40yahoo.com> yahoo.com
JamesFrankMcGrath
Date: Fri Dec 29, 2006 9:52 am ((PST))

Hi Rick (and everyone)! I just wanted to mention that
I am also working on the Antolik surname, in
Kolbach/Studenec in Spis county, and then from there
they moved to Spisske Podhradie. The most famous
member of that family was Karol Antolik,

James,
I have a "Antolik" family tree from Streator Illinois, starting
with an
ANDREW ANTOLIK from Austria came to Streator 1896 with his wife
Mary
NOVOTNEY and son GEORGE ANTOLIK 1882-1972. GEORGE ANTOLIK married
MARY BANDRE born in Streator 1887-1952. I do have my grandfathers
funeral records and I think I saw an ANTOLIK , but I can't find
them
right now.
I also live in Nanticoke and ANTOLIK name is common here, but I am
not
sure if they are Luthern or Roman Catholic..
Julianna Zarzycki

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I saw where there is a Antolick in our phonebook in Williamsport, Pa. If  you
would like the address let me know. Peggy


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Bob Kocerha

My mother's maiden name was Mary Ontko (from Windber, PA), and her
mother's maiden name was Anna Kocserha, from Abranovce, Slovakia.
I also visited the Lutheran Church in Zehna, Slovakia to find
records of the family.



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Slovak Import Company
New WWW Address:  http://www.slovakic.com
Ebay WWW Address:
http://www.ebaystores.ebay.com/slovakimportcompany?refid=store
Phone number in the US: 410 273 1149



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Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 8:59 AM
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Subject: [S-R] Surname Girbar


Hi Group,
I researched the FHC microfilm for the Evangelical church in Zehna

(near Presov).  My ggrandmother Alzbeta Girbar (born abt 1851)
married
my ggrandfather Juraj Kocerha (born 1846).  Is Girbar the
Hungarian
spelling?  Her brother who immigrated to the U.S. changed it to
Gibber
after 1910.  The church record did not indicate her birth village
or
that they were married in the Zehna Evangelical church.  Thanks
for
any help.  Bob Kocerha





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Dear Bob and Dan,



I found only one Girbar in the Ellis Island records--Andras, who immigrated
in 1904 to his uncle Andras Kalivosko in Peale PA. He accompanied the
latter's wife and child, also named Andras Kalivosko. They were all from
Huvesz (now Lucina SK), which was close to Zsegnye (Zehna).



Is it possible that there was a Catholic connection? Roman Catholic records
are available for nearby villages of Tuhrina and Kokosovce. Since the
Lutheran records don't seem to have been productive, it might be worth a
shot to see if you can find your people there. Records of non-Catholics are
occasionally found in RC churches for a variety of reasons, most typically
if one of the spouses was Catholic.



Girbar appears to be a very rare name. I was unable to find it in the phone
directories for either Slovakia or Hungary.



I wish you a successful hunt.



Janet



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Behalf Of Dan Kisha
Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 9:28 PM
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Subject: RE: [S-R] Surname Girbar



Bob Kocerha

My mother's maiden name was Mary Ontko (from Windber, PA), and her
mother's maiden name was Anna Kocserha, from Abranovce, Slovakia.
I also visited the Lutheran Church in Zehna, Slovakia to find
records of the family.

Dan Kisha daniel.kisha@ <mailto:daniel.kisha%40prodigy.net> prodigy.net
Slovak Import Company
New WWW Address: http://www.slovakic <http://www.slovakic.com> .com
Ebay WWW Address:
http://www.ebaystor
<http://www.ebaystores.ebay.com/slovakimportcompany?refid=store>
es.ebay.com/slovakimportcompany?refid=store
Phone number in the US: 410 273 1149

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Subject: [S-R] Surname Girbar

Hi Group,
I researched the FHC microfilm for the Evangelical church in Zehna

(near Presov). My ggrandmother Alzbeta Girbar (born abt 1851)
married
my ggrandfather Juraj Kocerha (born 1846). Is Girbar the
Hungarian
spelling? Her brother who immigrated to the U.S. changed it to
Gibber
after 1910. The church record did not indicate her birth village
or
that they were married in the Zehna Evangelical church. Thanks
for
any help. Bob Kocerha

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I checked out the web site and found a lot of interesting information but
could not find the information about converting Austro-Hungarian crowns to
Czechoslovakian crowns. The information may be there somewhere, but if it
is, I was just not smart enough to find it.


   Here is what I know about this subject.  Immediately after the collapse of
the Hapsburg monarchy, the newly formed Republic of Czechoslovak
reauthorized the old Austrio-Hungarian currency for use in Czechoslovakia
with stamps or overprints.  For example, a special blue 20 Heller
Czechoslovakian stamp was pasted on the old Austrian 20 Kronen note and a
black and red stamp-like overprint was printed on the Austrian 1000 Kronen
note.  Notes of these denominations, as well notes of other denominations
were either stamped or overprinted and used as currency in the newly formed
Republic of Czechoslovakia.  Czechoslovakia first started printing it own
currency in April of 1919.



   Czechoslovakia continued using the old Austro-Hungarian coins until 1921
when they started minting their own coins.  For a while both the new and old
coinage circulated together and were used for small transactions.



   How much the money was devalued is a much more difficult question.   Most
of the devaluation occurred during the war when the Austrio-Hungarian Kronen
lost much of its value due to rampant inflation.  For example back in 1892,
four Austro-Hungarian Kronen were approximately equal to one United States
Dollar.  Of course back then, a dollar was a lot more than it is today.
Towards the end of the war it took more than fifty Kronen to purchase one
dollar.



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     Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 9:20 PM
     To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
     Subject: Re: [S-R] Currency change 1919


     Thomas,
     This link may help
     www.lib.uchicago.edu/e/busecon/guides/Currencies.html#print
     ----- Original Message -----
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     To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
     Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 6:31 PM
     Subject: [S-R] Currency change 1919

     Does someone have information (and links) on how the change from the
     Austro-Hungarian crown to the CSR Crown was done in 1919? By how much
was
     the money devaluated?

     Thanks

     Thomas

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I found a somewhat similar name in our Slvaok Pride data base -
   Gerbar Cakanovce ABOV

   e mail me direct if you wish more info

   helene
   helenezx@...

Janet Kozlay <kozlay@...> wrote:
           Dear Bob and Dan,

I found only one Girbar in the Ellis Island records--Andras, who immigrated
in 1904 to his uncle Andras Kalivosko in Peale PA. He accompanied the
latter's wife and child, also named Andras Kalivosko. They were all from
Huvesz (now Lucina SK), which was close to Zsegnye (Zehna).

Is it possible that there was a Catholic connection? Roman Catholic records
are available for nearby villages of Tuhrina and Kokosovce. Since the
Lutheran records don't seem to have been productive, it might be worth a
shot to see if you can find your people there. Records of non-Catholics are
occasionally found in RC churches for a variety of reasons, most typically
if one of the spouses was Catholic.

Girbar appears to be a very rare name. I was unable to find it in the phone
directories for either Slovakia or Hungary.

I wish you a successful hunt.

Janet

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Behalf Of Dan Kisha
Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 9:28 PM
To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [S-R] Surname Girbar

Bob Kocerha

My mother's maiden name was Mary Ontko (from Windber, PA), and her
mother's maiden name was Anna Kocserha, from Abranovce, Slovakia.
I also visited the Lutheran Church in Zehna, Slovakia to find
records of the family.

Dan Kisha daniel.kisha@ <mailto:daniel.kisha%40prodigy.net> prodigy.net
Slovak Import Company
New WWW Address: http://www.slovakic <http://www.slovakic.com> .com
Ebay WWW Address:
http://www.ebaystor
<http://www.ebaystores.ebay.com/slovakimportcompany?refid=store>
es.ebay.com/slovakimportcompany?refid=store
Phone number in the US: 410 273 1149

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Subject: [S-R] Surname Girbar

Hi Group,
I researched the FHC microfilm for the Evangelical church in Zehna

(near Presov). My ggrandmother Alzbeta Girbar (born abt 1851)
married
my ggrandfather Juraj Kocerha (born 1846). Is Girbar the
Hungarian
spelling? Her brother who immigrated to the U.S. changed it to
Gibber
after 1910. The church record did not indicate her birth village
or
that they were married in the Zehna Evangelical church. Thanks
for
any help. Bob Kocerha

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That's the woman Anna Gerbar, my g-g-g-g-g-grandmother who married Samuel Szabo
around 1760.  I think there was more information on the Gerbar family in
C~akanovce but I don't think I had her parents' names.  I can check.  My theory
was the Gerbars were native Slovaks into whose family the outsider/newcomer
Szabo married.  My other theory is that there was a large Rusyn element in the
vicinity, with a lot of surnames like Fedoryak and Rusnak and Petrilla.  Maybe
Gerbar/Girbar is Rusyn.


   ----- Original Message -----
   From: helene cincebeaux
   To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 10:00 AM
   Subject: RE: [S-R] Surname Girbar


   I found a somewhat similar name in our Slvaok Pride data base -
   Gerbar Cakanovce ABOV

   e mail me direct if you wish more info

   helene
   helenezx@...

   Janet Kozlay <kozlay@...> wrote:
   Dear Bob and Dan,

   I found only one Girbar in the Ellis Island records--Andras, who immigrated
   in 1904 to his uncle Andras Kalivosko in Peale PA. He accompanied the
   latter's wife and child, also named Andras Kalivosko. They were all from
   Huvesz (now Lucina SK), which was close to Zsegnye (Zehna).

   Is it possible that there was a Catholic connection? Roman Catholic records
   are available for nearby villages of Tuhrina and Kokosovce. Since the
   Lutheran records don't seem to have been productive, it might be worth a
   shot to see if you can find your people there. Records of non-Catholics are
   occasionally found in RC churches for a variety of reasons, most typically
   if one of the spouses was Catholic.

   Girbar appears to be a very rare name. I was unable to find it in the phone
   directories for either Slovakia or Hungary.

   I wish you a successful hunt.

   Janet

   _____

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   Behalf Of Dan Kisha
   Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 9:28 PM
   To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: RE: [S-R] Surname Girbar

   Bob Kocerha

   My mother's maiden name was Mary Ontko (from Windber, PA), and her
   mother's maiden name was Anna Kocserha, from Abranovce, Slovakia.
   I also visited the Lutheran Church in Zehna, Slovakia to find
   records of the family.

   Dan Kisha daniel.kisha@ <mailto:daniel.kisha%40prodigy.net> prodigy.net
   Slovak Import Company
   New WWW Address: http://www.slovakic <http://www.slovakic.com> .com
   Ebay WWW Address:
   http://www.ebaystor
   <http://www.ebaystores.ebay.com/slovakimportcompany?refid=store>
   es.ebay.com/slovakimportcompany?refid=store
   Phone number in the US: 410 273 1149

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   Subject: [S-R] Surname Girbar

   Hi Group,
   I researched the FHC microfilm for the Evangelical church in Zehna

   (near Presov). My ggrandmother Alzbeta Girbar (born abt 1851)
   married
   my ggrandfather Juraj Kocerha (born 1846). Is Girbar the
   Hungarian
   spelling? Her brother who immigrated to the U.S. changed it to
   Gibber
   after 1910. The church record did not indicate her birth village
   or
   that they were married in the Zehna Evangelical church. Thanks
   for
   any help. Bob Kocerha

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Hello,
My grandfather and grandmother immigrated to the USA from what today
is Osuska, Slovakia. Their names were Paul Kovachik (chek cic) and
Antonia Danko. In October of this year we visited the village and
found grave markers in the church cemetery with family surnames on
them which leads us to believe that this is where they came from. We
could get no information locally as only we spoke english. We could
not even find the name of the church.

Following is the information I have:

Grandfather-Paul Kovachik (chek cic)
Born-December 20, 1884
Father-Joseph Kovachik
Mother-Mary Malatenski (y)
Catholic
Occupation-Tailor
Siblings-May have had 1 brother Tom?
I can find no entry into the USA but plenty of documentation of his
being in Chicago, Los Angeles, and San Francisco through out his life.

Grandmother-Antonia Danko (Kovachik)
Born-November 11, 1885
Father-George Danko
Mother-Joanna Schulz
Religion-Catholic
Occupation-Housewife
Siblings-Was said to have 12 brothers and sisters. Brother Josef
Danko also immigrated to USA.
I found evidence that she entered the US through Ellis Island on
March 7, 1900 and worked as a mothers helper for a family in New
Jersey before moving west to Los Angeles then San Francisco.

My goal is to trace my family back and find any records of them and
any siblings they might have had. I think the best place to start
would be with the records in the village church. Does anyone know the
name of the church in the village of Osuska in Slovakia or how I
might find out that information. I would greatly appreciate it. Of
course any information on my family would be great

Thank You,
Joanne

I am sorry to say that you have been working at this BACKWARDS. You
would have had much more reason to visit Slovakia if you had done the
research FIRST.

Do yourself a big favour and start with careful study of the
following web site: http://iabsi.com/

Osuske (note sp) is in western Slovakia. In terms of genealogical
research, that's BAD news.

>>> My goal is to trace my family back and find any records of them
and any siblings they might have had. I think the best place to start
would be with the records in the village church. Does anyone know the
name of the church in the village of Osuska in Slovakia or how I
might find out that information. <<<

Such as it is, the information is close to your home.

1) GETTING STARTED
The 1869 Hungarian Census is available and will tell you everyomne
who lived in the village, their religion and much more. You can
research the films at your local LDS Family History Center (FHC).

Oszuszko (Osuské) Film 2190352 Item 4
(cont.) Oszuszko (Osuské) Film 2190353 Item 1

2) ESTABLISHING AVAILABILITY OF CHURCH RECORDS
LDS FICHES (set of 6) LDS #6000786
Survey of parish registers in Slovakia up to the time of civil
registration. Provides details of church records that are held in
Slovak archives.  Index of villages is on fiche #6 and page
references refer to different religions. Most of these church records
are available on film via your LDS Family History Center BUT NOT
THOSE OF WESTERN SLOVAKIA, which have not yet been indexed and
released.

3) LATTER DAY SAINTS (MORMON) LDS FAMILY HISTORY CENTER (FHC)
Go to the LDS web site:
www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp

LOCATE YOUR NEAREST FAMILY HISTORY CENTER AND ORDER Fiches and Films
You can go to the LDS web site to locate your nearest Family History
Center (FHC) and determine their hours of operation. You will need to
go there in person to order the 1869 Hungarian Census film(s). In
about a month, the film will arrive and you can book a film reader
and begin your research. The above-mentioned fiches #6000786 may
already be on hand but not the census films.

Go to the LDS web site:
www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp

4) The church records have been moved to the Slovak Archive in Nitra.
They are NOT at the church. Having established what is available at
the Nitra Archive via fiches #6000786, you have two choices:
a) WAIT, possibly years, until the church records are released by LDS
b) HIRE a researcher to go to the archive and do the work for you.

If you follow the above steps, you will be well on your way and you
will also have a thousand questions.

Ask away. There is much to learn.

SLOVAK TELEPHONE WHITE PAGES
You might find relatives in Slovakia who have a telephone by looking
them up in the phone book white pages at
http://www.zoznamst.sk/hladaj?co=st_zoznam_en

To use the search engine, you need to complete the first few letters
of last name plus wild card *
In the 'Town' section use area code 034.

The Slovak area code map is at
http://www.centroconsult.sk/facilities/phonemap.html

There is ONE relevant (possibly) phone listing in the village.
Malatinský Jozef
E.Lehockeho 143,
Osuske
906 12  Hradiste pod Vratnom
SLOVAK REPLUBLIC

You might consider writing a letter.

Hello Joanne:

Here's a link to a very brief article (in English) in Wikipedia  regarding
the village of OSUSKE in the TRNAVA region of  Slovakia.

_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osusk%C3%A9_
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osuské)

  It mentions that the first known written reference to the village  dates
back to 1262 A.D. and that a catholic church was first mentioned in  1468.
Unfortunately, it does not give the name of the church.  A  second article
written
in Slovak in Wikipedia provides more extensive  information regarding the
village   It references a kaplnka sv.  Bartolomeja ("chapel of St. Bartholomew")
in 1738, but my knowledge of Slovak is  very limited and I could not tell if
this was the name of the catholic church  itself, a part of the church, or
another church altogether.  If you do a  search in _www.google.com_
(http://www.google.com)  for OSUSKE you  should find a couple other brief
mentions of the
village, including some in  English.

The KOVALCIK surname does appear in my direct lineage in the SPIS area of
Slovakia, from the village of SLATVINA to be exact.  It is a common surname  in
Slovakia, a diminutive of the word KOVAL meaning "blacksmith" and essentially
means "little blacksmith" or "son of the blacksmith."  The distances are
quite far for any connection, but if you ever find any references that they were
from the Spis region, please let me know.  In other church records, I've
seen people who moved from what was then GALACIA (Poland) into Slovakia, so I
never say never.  I wish you well in your search.


Best regards,


David Michael Baloga


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Pal Kovacsik, born 1884, immigrated from Oszusko on April 2, 1904, on the
ship Prinzess Alice.



Until LDS releases church records for western Slovakia, which may be a long
wait, it might be your best bet to contact a professional genealogist in the
area. Vladimir Bohinc, who is very highly regarded, can be reached at
konetka@.... His website is www.konetka.sk <http://www.konetka.sk/> .
He indicates there that he already has information on the Kovacik name.



Good luck, Janet





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To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [S-R] Village of Osuska, Slovakia



Hello,
My grandfather and grandmother immigrated to the USA from what today
is Osuska, Slovakia. Their names were Paul Kovachik (chek cic) and
Antonia Danko. In October of this year we visited the village and
found grave markers in the church cemetery with family surnames on
them which leads us to believe that this is where they came from. We
could get no information locally as only we spoke english. We could
not even find the name of the church.

Following is the information I have:

Grandfather-Paul Kovachik (chek cic)
Born-December 20, 1884
Father-Joseph Kovachik
Mother-Mary Malatenski (y)
Catholic
Occupation-Tailor
Siblings-May have had 1 brother Tom?
I can find no entry into the USA but plenty of documentation of his
being in Chicago, Los Angeles, and San Francisco through out his life.

Grandmother-Antonia Danko (Kovachik)
Born-November 11, 1885
Father-George Danko
Mother-Joanna Schulz
Religion-Catholic
Occupation-Housewife
Siblings-Was said to have 12 brothers and sisters. Brother Josef
Danko also immigrated to USA.
I found evidence that she entered the US through Ellis Island on
March 7, 1900 and worked as a mothers helper for a family in New
Jersey before moving west to Los Angeles then San Francisco.

My goal is to trace my family back and find any records of them and
any siblings they might have had. I think the best place to start
would be with the records in the village church. Does anyone know the
name of the church in the village of Osuska in Slovakia or how I
might find out that information. I would greatly appreciate it. Of
course any information on my family would be great

Thank You,
Joanne





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Hi Joanne - Your village is Osuske with an accent over the last e. You don't
need the name of the church - just write to the Farrar - the pastor - although
many of the record books from before 1895 or 1900 have gone to a regional
archive or the main one in Bratislava. I don't think the LDS has released the
NITRA records yet.

   A letter might work - tho church pastors are not genealogists and may not want
to bother replying. Sometimes a letter to the mayor will have the letter
passedto the family.

   Or llook in Slovak phone book on line - for your surnames in Osuske or
Jablonica the next village that is a larger.Letters are best written in Slovak
and not all get answered.  I have a form letter in Slovak you could try using.
if you would like it send me an e mail directly helenezx@.... I also have a
friend in Slovakia who has been helping people - e mail letters to her and she
translates and mails in Slovakia and gets the replies and translates them and e
mails to America. It works some of the time but not 100%.

   Do you have any old addresses from the old country or baptismal or marriage
documents - sometimes these have clues like house numbers and help  to identify
your branch of the family. Sometimes the reason we don't get replies is that
half the village has the same surname.

   I love your village - it has the most beautiful folk dress!

   Good luck!

   helene

bojomo42 <bojomo@...> wrote:
           Hello,
My grandfather and grandmother immigrated to the USA from what today
is Osuska, Slovakia. Their names were Paul Kovachik (chek cic) and
Antonia Danko. In October of this year we visited the village and
found grave markers in the church cemetery with family surnames on
them which leads us to believe that this is where they came from. We
could get no information locally as only we spoke english. We could
not even find the name of the church.

Following is the information I have:

Grandfather-Paul Kovachik (chek cic)
Born-December 20, 1884
Father-Joseph Kovachik
Mother-Mary Malatenski (y)
Catholic
Occupation-Tailor
Siblings-May have had 1 brother Tom?
I can find no entry into the USA but plenty of documentation of his
being in Chicago, Los Angeles, and San Francisco through out his life.

Grandmother-Antonia Danko (Kovachik)
Born-November 11, 1885
Father-George Danko
Mother-Joanna Schulz
Religion-Catholic
Occupation-Housewife
Siblings-Was said to have 12 brothers and sisters. Brother Josef
Danko also immigrated to USA.
I found evidence that she entered the US through Ellis Island on
March 7, 1900 and worked as a mothers helper for a family in New
Jersey before moving west to Los Angeles then San Francisco.

My goal is to trace my family back and find any records of them and
any siblings they might have had. I think the best place to start
would be with the records in the village church. Does anyone know the
name of the church in the village of Osuska in Slovakia or how I
might find out that information. I would greatly appreciate it. Of
course any information on my family would be great

Thank You,
Joanne





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I absolutely agree with John about doing your research before visiting.
Having a translator along is also a great help. Even ordering food in a
restaurant can be more than challenging if you don’t know the language. (We
had some pretty bad meals when we were on our own.)



A wise person told us before our first visit that we should not expect to
learn anything while we were there, that research is more easily done here
at home. He also said we should focus on enjoying the country for what it
is. Of course if you are fortunate enough to find distant relatives, that is
another matter, one which Bill Tarkulich addresses on his excellent website
(www.iabsi.com <http://www.iabsi.com/> ).



Janet



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From: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of johnqadam
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 9:57 PM
To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [S-R] Re: Village of Osuska, Slovakia



I am sorry to say that you have been working at this BACKWARDS. You
would have had much more reason to visit Slovakia if you had done the
research FIRST.

Do yourself a big favour and start with careful study of the
following web site: http://iabsi. <http://iabsi.com/> com/

Osuske (note sp) is in western Slovakia. In terms of genealogical
research, that's BAD news.

>>> My goal is to trace my family back and find any records of them
and any siblings they might have had. I think the best place to start
would be with the records in the village church. Does anyone know the
name of the church in the village of Osuska in Slovakia or how I
might find out that information. <<<

Such as it is, the information is close to your home.

1) GETTING STARTED
The 1869 Hungarian Census is available and will tell you everyomne
who lived in the village, their religion and much more. You can
research the films at your local LDS Family History Center (FHC).

Oszuszko (Osuské) Film 2190352 Item 4
(cont.) Oszuszko (Osuské) Film 2190353 Item 1

2) ESTABLISHING AVAILABILITY OF CHURCH RECORDS
LDS FICHES (set of 6) LDS #6000786
Survey of parish registers in Slovakia up to the time of civil
registration. Provides details of church records that are held in
Slovak archives. Index of villages is on fiche #6 and page
references refer to different religions. Most of these church records
are available on film via your LDS Family History Center BUT NOT
THOSE OF WESTERN SLOVAKIA, which have not yet been indexed and
released.

3) LATTER DAY SAINTS (MORMON) LDS FAMILY HISTORY CENTER (FHC)
Go to the LDS web site:
www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp

LOCATE YOUR NEAREST FAMILY HISTORY CENTER AND ORDER Fiches and Films
You can go to the LDS web site to locate your nearest Family History
Center (FHC) and determine their hours of operation. You will need to
go there in person to order the 1869 Hungarian Census film(s). In
about a month, the film will arrive and you can book a film reader
and begin your research. The above-mentioned fiches #6000786 may
already be on hand but not the census films.

Go to the LDS web site:
www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp

4) The church records have been moved to the Slovak Archive in Nitra.
They are NOT at the church. Having established what is available at
the Nitra Archive via fiches #6000786, you have two choices:
a) WAIT, possibly years, until the church records are released by LDS
b) HIRE a researcher to go to the archive and do the work for you.

If you follow the above steps, you will be well on your way and you
will also have a thousand questions.

Ask away. There is much to learn.





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John, how did you manage to get a full address when the system is, as you
have said, “broken”? It worked for me only if I put Osuske in for the town,
but not if I used the ATC. This is pretty limited, since there well could be
other “possibles” in the area that are not in Osuske proper.



Janet



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From: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of johnqadam
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 10:12 PM
To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [S-R] OsuskE, Slovakia



SLOVAK TELEPHONE WHITE PAGES
You might find relatives in Slovakia who have a telephone by looking
them up in the phone book white pages at
http://www.zoznamst <http://www.zoznamst.sk/hladaj?co=st_zoznam_en>
.sk/hladaj?co=st_zoznam_en

To use the search engine, you need to complete the first few letters
of last name plus wild card *
In the 'Town' section use area code 034.

The Slovak area code map is at
http://www.centroco <http://www.centroconsult.sk/facilities/phonemap.html>
nsult.sk/facilities/phonemap.html

There is ONE relevant (possibly) phone listing in the village.
Malatinský Jozef
E.Lehockeho 143,
Osuske
906 12 Hradiste pod Vratnom
SLOVAK REPLUBLIC

You might consider writing a letter.





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Researchers:

I am researching my paternal ancestors, MAJERNIK In Slovakia.  My
grandfather, Michael Majernik, born 1890 in Zemplin/Zamutov, Slovakia.  Son
of Josephus Majernik and Maria Koscs.

Any help is appreciated.

Thank you.

Rick Mayernik in Montana, USA

Dear Janet,
For the sake of local slovaks I decided to name my research company KONEKTA.
Were it in english, it would have been CONNECTA.
The name should tell all. I connect people.
Vladimir


   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Janet Kozlay
   To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 3:58 AM
   Subject: RE: [S-R] Village of Osuska, Slovakia


   Pal Kovacsik, born 1884, immigrated from Oszusko on April 2, 1904, on the
   ship Prinzess Alice.

   Until LDS releases church records for western Slovakia, which may be a long
   wait, it might be your best bet to contact a professional genealogist in the
   area. Vladimir Bohinc, who is very highly regarded, can be reached at
   konetka@.... His website is www.konetka.sk <http://www.konetka.sk/> .
   He indicates there that he already has information on the Kovacik name.

   Good luck, Janet

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   From: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com] On
   Behalf Of bojomo42
   Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 7:31 PM
   To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: [S-R] Village of Osuska, Slovakia

   Hello,
   My grandfather and grandmother immigrated to the USA from what today
   is Osuska, Slovakia. Their names were Paul Kovachik (chek cic) and
   Antonia Danko. In October of this year we visited the village and
   found grave markers in the church cemetery with family surnames on
   them which leads us to believe that this is where they came from. We
   could get no information locally as only we spoke english. We could
   not even find the name of the church.

   Following is the information I have:

   Grandfather-Paul Kovachik (chek cic)
   Born-December 20, 1884
   Father-Joseph Kovachik
   Mother-Mary Malatenski (y)
   Catholic
   Occupation-Tailor
   Siblings-May have had 1 brother Tom?
   I can find no entry into the USA but plenty of documentation of his
   being in Chicago, Los Angeles, and San Francisco through out his life.

   Grandmother-Antonia Danko (Kovachik)
   Born-November 11, 1885
   Father-George Danko
   Mother-Joanna Schulz
   Religion-Catholic
   Occupation-Housewife
   Siblings-Was said to have 12 brothers and sisters. Brother Josef
   Danko also immigrated to USA.
   I found evidence that she entered the US through Ellis Island on
   March 7, 1900 and worked as a mothers helper for a family in New
   Jersey before moving west to Los Angeles then San Francisco.

   My goal is to trace my family back and find any records of them and
   any siblings they might have had. I think the best place to start
   would be with the records in the village church. Does anyone know the
   name of the church in the village of Osuska in Slovakia or how I
   might find out that information. I would greatly appreciate it. Of
   course any information on my family would be great

   Thank You,
   Joanne

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Dear John,
Osuske records are not in Nitra archive , but in Bratislava!!!
How can you tell that?
Vladimir

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: johnqadam
   To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 3:57 AM
   Subject: [S-R] Re: Village of Osuska, Slovakia


   I am sorry to say that you have been working at this BACKWARDS. You
   would have had much more reason to visit Slovakia if you had done the
   research FIRST.

   Do yourself a big favour and start with careful study of the
   following web site: http://iabsi.com/

   Osuske (note sp) is in western Slovakia. In terms of genealogical
   research, that's BAD news.

   >>> My goal is to trace my family back and find any records of them
   and any siblings they might have had. I think the best place to start
   would be with the records in the village church. Does anyone know the
   name of the church in the village of Osuska in Slovakia or how I
   might find out that information. <<<

   Such as it is, the information is close to your home.

   1) GETTING STARTED
   The 1869 Hungarian Census is available and will tell you everyomne
   who lived in the village, their religion and much more. You can
   research the films at your local LDS Family History Center (FHC).

   Oszuszko (Osuské) Film 2190352 Item 4
   (cont.) Oszuszko (Osuské) Film 2190353 Item 1

   2) ESTABLISHING AVAILABILITY OF CHURCH RECORDS
   LDS FICHES (set of 6) LDS #6000786
   Survey of parish registers in Slovakia up to the time of civil
   registration. Provides details of church records that are held in
   Slovak archives. Index of villages is on fiche #6 and page
   references refer to different religions. Most of these church records
   are available on film via your LDS Family History Center BUT NOT
   THOSE OF WESTERN SLOVAKIA, which have not yet been indexed and
   released.

   3) LATTER DAY SAINTS (MORMON) LDS FAMILY HISTORY CENTER (FHC)
   Go to the LDS web site:
   www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp

   LOCATE YOUR NEAREST FAMILY HISTORY CENTER AND ORDER Fiches and Films
   You can go to the LDS web site to locate your nearest Family History
   Center (FHC) and determine their hours of operation. You will need to
   go there in person to order the 1869 Hungarian Census film(s). In
   about a month, the film will arrive and you can book a film reader
   and begin your research. The above-mentioned fiches #6000786 may
   already be on hand but not the census films.

   Go to the LDS web site:
   www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp

   4) The church records have been moved to the Slovak Archive in Nitra.
   They are NOT at the church. Having established what is available at
   the Nitra Archive via fiches #6000786, you have two choices:
   a) WAIT, possibly years, until the church records are released by LDS
   b) HIRE a researcher to go to the archive and do the work for you.

   If you follow the above steps, you will be well on your way and you
   will also have a thousand questions.

   Ask away. There is much to learn.





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Dear Joanne,
I will make it short;
- forget looking for the name of the church. This is a US approach for US
churches.
- if you write to the priest, he has no such books and will probably not bother
to answer either.
- if you find someone with your surnames, what you will have to ask him is to go
to the archive in Bratislava and study Osuske records for you. Is this what you
want? You can not tell, that he is your relative and he does not know that
either. So, what do you offer him to do this in return? it is not easy to get to
the Bratislava archive. You have to wait for your turn a month or more. And not
just anybody is familiar with reading the records and perform a proper
systematic research. And, for such a guy, one day in the archive will not be
enough. He will have to apply for another term and wait another month or two and
go there again. After this he will have to research in the Town Hall, which has
records after 1895 in order to find out, who your relatives might be.
Who can accept such a task? If the person you find is working, there is no time.
He would have to take a day off. Or more. If he is retired, he has no money to
finance this.
And, provided you will find some more data in this fashion, you will have plenty
of more questions to be answered.
Can you put such a burden on someone just because you would like to know?
Please, consider this seriously.
A complicated problem ( which looking for relatives almost always is) can not be
marginalized just to save money. In principle, there are no shortcuts.
Some of the members of the list can tell you this is true.
Read my article about this very issue. www.konekta.sk  I have done it hundreds
of times.
Vladimir Bohinc


   ----- Original Message -----
   From: bojomo42
   To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 1:30 AM
   Subject: [S-R] Village of Osuska, Slovakia


   Hello,
   My grandfather and grandmother immigrated to the USA from what today
   is Osuska, Slovakia. Their names were Paul Kovachik (chek cic) and
   Antonia Danko. In October of this year we visited the village and
   found grave markers in the church cemetery with family surnames on
   them which leads us to believe that this is where they came from. We
   could get no information locally as only we spoke english. We could
   not even find the name of the church.

   Following is the information I have:

   Grandfather-Paul Kovachik (chek cic)
   Born-December 20, 1884
   Father-Joseph Kovachik
   Mother-Mary Malatenski (y)
   Catholic
   Occupation-Tailor
   Siblings-May have had 1 brother Tom?
   I can find no entry into the USA but plenty of documentation of his
   being in Chicago, Los Angeles, and San Francisco through out his life.

   Grandmother-Antonia Danko (Kovachik)
   Born-November 11, 1885
   Father-George Danko
   Mother-Joanna Schulz
   Religion-Catholic
   Occupation-Housewife
   Siblings-Was said to have 12 brothers and sisters. Brother Josef
   Danko also immigrated to USA.
   I found evidence that she entered the US through Ellis Island on
   March 7, 1900 and worked as a mothers helper for a family in New
   Jersey before moving west to Los Angeles then San Francisco.

   My goal is to trace my family back and find any records of them and
   any siblings they might have had. I think the best place to start
   would be with the records in the village church. Does anyone know the
   name of the church in the village of Osuska in Slovakia or how I
   might find out that information. I would greatly appreciate it. Of
   course any information on my family would be great

   Thank You,
   Joanne





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Hello Rick,
If at all possible,  contact the church in the  United States where the first
generation of Majernik babies were baptized.   Find out the exact village
where Michael Majernik was born. It will be in  the rectory ledger, not on the
batpismal certificate.  This will give you  also your grandmother's information.
Then I would go to the local Latter Day Saints family  History Center and
rent the microfilm with that village's records.  Since  you know that Michael
was
born in 1890, you will be able to request the proper  film.  From that film,
you should be able to find the records of his  siblings and the names of your
great grandparents and where they were  baptized.  then you may possibly be
able to track them back each generation  until approximately the early 1700's or
late 1690's.  I did not  find Zamutov in the Latter Day Saints database and
that is why i suggested that  you go back to the church in the USA and get the
village where your  grandparents' church records are located.  it may be
stated as different  than Zamutov.
  Noreen

I am researching my paternal ancestors, MAJERNIK In Slovakia. My
grandfather, Michael Majernik, born 1890 in Zemplin/Zamutov, Slovakia. Son
of Josephus Majernik and Maria Koscs.

Any help is  appreciated.

Thank you.

Rick Mayernik in Montana, USA






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>>> John, how did you manage to get a full address when the system is,
as you have said, "broken"? It worked for me only if I put Osuske in
for the town, but not if I used the ATC. This is pretty limited, since
there well could be other "possibles" in the area that are not in
Osuske proper.<<<
>
> There is ONE relevant (possibly) phone listing in the village.
> Malatinský Jozef
> E.Lehockeho 143,
> Osuske
> 906 12 Hradiste pod Vratnom
> SLOVAK REPLUBLIC

Well, I didn't explain all my (secret) methods.

1) I used the Slovak phone look-up page, along with the area code.
2) I used short forms plus wild card, eg: Malat* to ensure that I
covered spelling inconsistencies and the female form.
3) The postal code came from Podrobny Auto Atlas but it can also be had
from http://www.slovenskaposta.sk/index.php
4) YES, there are other possibles in the area. However, possibilities
probably decline with the fourth root of the distance travelled. At
best, The Adam Theroem = Two Village Rule would apply.

OK, now the secret is out. Now you know all!

>>>Osuske records are not in Nitra archive, but in Bratislava!!!<<<

Mine was just an unlucky/incorrect guess. Bratislava it is.

>>> A complicated problem (which looking for relatives almost always
is) can not be marginalized just to save money. In principle, there are
no shortcuts.<<<

Vladimir, you make a very good point. I have been at it for 12 years
and have made 5 trips to eastern Slovakia -- and still I have huge gaps
in my database. Some of the relevant church records are in Hungary and
others in Romania.

On the other hand, the rewards are huge. I am welcomed in many homes in
Slovakia. I Skype several times a week. We exchange e-mails. The
mailing list has gotten longer. Current database updates arrive
periodically. And yet, some family members have no desire to
participate.

My encounters with other researchers around the world (literally) have
been exceptionally rewarding.

If you are looking for Greek Catholic records, you might look at nearby
Rudlov, which records are available through LDS.



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From: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of nhasior@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 5:12 AM
To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [S-R] Majernik / now Mayernik





Hello Rick,
If at all possible, contact the church in the United States where the first
generation of Majernik babies were baptized. Find out the exact village
where Michael Majernik was born. It will be in the rectory ledger, not on
the
batpismal certificate. This will give you also your grandmother's
information.
Then I would go to the local Latter Day Saints family History Center and
rent the microfilm with that village's records. Since you know that Michael
was
born in 1890, you will be able to request the proper film. From that film,
you should be able to find the records of his siblings and the names of your

great grandparents and where they were baptized. then you may possibly be
able to track them back each generation until approximately the early 1700's
or
late 1690's. I did not find Zamutov in the Latter Day Saints database and
that is why i suggested that you go back to the church in the USA and get
the
village where your grandparents' church records are located. it may be
stated as different than Zamutov.
Noreen

I am researching my paternal ancestors, MAJERNIK In Slovakia. My
grandfather, Michael Majernik, born 1890 in Zemplin/Zamutov, Slovakia. Son
of Josephus Majernik and Maria Koscs.

Any help is appreciated.

Thank you.

Rick Mayernik in Montana, USA

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John, when you find the first living relative, the whole affair then becomes
less and less genealogy and more and more a family matter.
Meaning, you get involved in inner family secrets, you learn who is good and who
is bad:-), some will like you, some will not care, some will envy you, some will
envy those whom you found first etc.etc.
So it is quite a touchy matter. Why some do not want to participate may have
several reasons. First I would think of is :" If "they" are contacting him, so
let them do. We do not want to be involved. I would understand this ( from
experience), that this has nothing to do with you, but it's a purely internal
affair.
I had such a case last year ( already?:-)
I was hosting alady with daughter from US, visiting several relatives. When we
told one family, that we are going to visit another family in another town, they
said, :" If you go there, we are not going."
Or another: " If you visit my sister, we are not coming with you."
These things are real and important to know and observe. I think, I am writing
about this too in my article.
So it is quite important to know whom you should pick as "Your prime relative".
Vladimir

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: johnqadam
   To: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 4:15 PM
   Subject: [S-R] Genealogy Research Process


   >>> A complicated problem (which looking for relatives almost always
   is) can not be marginalized just to save money. In principle, there are
   no shortcuts.<<<

   Vladimir, you make a very good point. I have been at it for 12 years
   and have made 5 trips to eastern Slovakia -- and still I have huge gaps
   in my database. Some of the relevant church records are in Hungary and
   others in Romania.

   On the other hand, the rewards are huge. I am welcomed in many homes in
   Slovakia. I Skype several times a week. We exchange e-mails. The
   mailing list has gotten longer. Current database updates arrive
   periodically. And yet, some family members have no desire to
   participate.

   My encounters with other researchers around the world (literally) have
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Hello everybody

I have just joined the group so that I could try to find my closer
friend's wife ancestors, the Sohasky family, apparently from Slovak
extract, the only ones I have found so far have been so
throuch "Searching in Slovakia".

First was her quadrisaďeul Stanilas Sohasky(i) (both occur in his
wedding document)born in 1771 at Dembrowiec near Lublin in Poland
(Western Galicia), and so was his father. After the take over by
Austria
of the province in 1795, he became an Austrian or a Hungar and sent
to
the army. The French made him a prisoner during the first or second
campaign of Italy (1796-97 or 1800). Having been sent to France he
got
married in 1802 et settled here,where they transformed the name
phonetically to Soisky.
Enough with History now !
What am I researching ? Any information that would permit me to
evidence :
-whether they were really Slovaks?
-where do they come from?
So far I have found a few Sohasky(i) still living in the US, and a
few more unfortunately dead in the US, but, apparently no one left in
Slovakia.
Any help will be highly appreciated.
Many thanks in advance.
Jacques R.Cotteret
Millery France

The closest name in Slovak phone listings is Sois.

My grandfather, Tomas STRUHAR (b. 11 Aug 1883) lived in Zohor,
(Bratislava) Slovakia and emigrated to the US in 1913 from there. His
father was Tomas STRUHAR and his mother was Madeline VLCEK.  He and
his wife, Agnes MIFKOVIC (b. 21 Jan 1891) also from Zohor, settled in
Baltimore, MD.  Her mother & father were Stefan MIFKOVIC and Algbeta
VLCEK.

I would really like to find info on their parents.  Or, at least, some
guidance as to where to start searching.

Thanks.

Elaine Summerhill

>>> I would really like to find info on their parents.  Or, at least,
some guidance as to where to start searching. <<<

You will have to pay a pro to do your research at the Slovak Archive.
The films of church records have not been indexed and released and
there is no date given for release.

You CAN dtermine the availability of archived church records. Here's
how.

LDS FICHES (set of 6) LDS #6000786
Survey of parish registers in Slovakia up to the time of civil
registration. Provides details of church records that are held in
Slovak archives.  Index of villages is on fiche #6 and page
references refer to different religions. Most of these church records
are available on film via your LDS Family History Center but NOT for
western Slovakia

CHURCH RECORDS AT LATTER DAY SAINTS (MORMON) LDS FAMILY HISTORY
CENTER (FHC)
Go to the LDS web site:
www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp

LOCATE YOUR NEAREST FAMILY HISTORY CENTER AND ORDER FICHES if not
already on hand.

You can go to the LDS web site to locate your nearest Family History
Center (FHC) and determine their hours of operation. You will need to
go there in person to order the fiches if they are not already on
hand. In about a month, the fiches will arrive and you can book a
reader and begin your research.

WRITING TO ARCHIVES (or to a genealogy pro)
For Czech and Slovak research letter writing help, go to:
www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp
Click on SEARCH
Click on RESEARCH HELPS
Click on the letter "C"
Scroll to the bottom of the page
Select and print PDF document Czech and Slovak Letter-writing Guide
Also select and print PDF document Czech Word List