Yes, it seems that "Eastern Europe" was redefined for the cold war, but now that that war is past the old use of "Central Europe" is coming back. On the...
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christopher gajda
christopherg...
Dec 1, 2005 2:57 pm
I have to agree that language and other "off-topic" subjects are legitimately part of a genealogy site. Unless genealogy offers insite into language, history,...
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Bill Tarkulich
smitko2
Dec 1, 2005 3:05 pm
According to http://www.tol.cz Central Europe is czech republic estonia hungary latvia lithuania poland slovakia slovenia ...
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Armata, Joseph R. (JA...
jarmata00
Dec 1, 2005 3:47 pm
Well, it all depends on what your reference points are for measuring the center of Europe, since it's not like the area is nice smooth sphere or rectangle....
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Jan Ammann
aloysialouise
Dec 1, 2005 4:19 pm
Hello..........well I guess I have learned something here......I have always thought Hungary was Eastern Europe.....in fact, the friends I have in Hungary do...
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Bill Tarkulich
smitko2
Dec 1, 2005 4:57 pm
Jan, As you can see, it all depends on your point of view. There is no "official definition." I cited the URL to give you the source of this, not to sanction...
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John Venham
jevenham@...
Dec 1, 2005 11:18 pm
Almost all recent scholarly works discuss the difficulty of assigning a geographical label to this region. Technically, Europe is not a distinct continent,...
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Jan Ammann
aloysialouise
Dec 1, 2005 11:36 pm
Hello John........Thank you very much for your thoughtful and very worthy reply on this subject. Your explanation of the life of Cr, S, and H really hits the...
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amiak27
Dec 2, 2005 4:48 am
Jan, You have had some good answers and different perspectives. I am surprised the source Bill named did not include Germany in Central Europe. Certainly the...
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Vladimir Bohinc
vbohinc
Dec 2, 2005 6:40 am
The best and the only way to find out what the possible meaning of this nickname could have been would be to ask the people from the location where it was...
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Frank
frankly1us
Dec 2, 2005 2:20 pm
Before WW I, Slovakia was part of Upper Hungary (Felvidék) and part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire (1867-1918) and earlier a part of Hungary under the...
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Vladimir Bohinc
vbohinc
Dec 2, 2005 2:52 pm
I need some help from the audience. Can somebody explain to me the connection between Bohok in this european document and a Bohunk coined in the States? Thank...
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Janet Kozlay
jkozlay
Dec 2, 2005 3:28 pm
I don't think there is any connection at all. Someone had suggested a possible connection only because of their superficial similarity. Janet...
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Jan Ammann
aloysialouise
Dec 2, 2005 3:42 pm
Hello Vladimir........I don't think there is a reasonable or rational explanation for the connection if there is indeed one. Somehow........in some way, the...
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geniekid39
Dec 2, 2005 3:51 pm
Are their any other "overlay"maps which I could use to find out who was who abt 1914? Thanks,Barbi...
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Carl Kotlarchik
ktlrchk
Dec 2, 2005 7:08 pm
The simple answer to Vladimir's question is that there is no connection between these terms. A derogatory, American slang term would not have appeared in an...
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Dennis Lee Bubla
dennis_lee_b...
Dec 3, 2005 3:05 am
Hi y'all (been lurking a while, but reading just the same) I have to agree with Jan, the term was meant as an ethnic slur and label which does in fact conjure...
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Vladimir Bohinc
vbohinc
Dec 3, 2005 7:12 am
Dear Carl, Thank you. I know there is no connection between those two terms. I am just amazed at which avenues this thread has taken if you let your...
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Bill Tarkulich
smitko2
Dec 3, 2005 12:15 pm
Hello Dennis, Your question needs a new message thread title, so I have taken care of that, above. While Austria-Hungary was a dual monarchy, there was an...
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maruszin
Dec 4, 2005 12:51 pm
Hello, I was wondering if anyone had any ideas on what a note stated. I posted in the photo section of this group. I have it listed as " NOT SURE OF MEANING"....
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Bill Tarkulich
smitko2
Dec 4, 2005 8:39 pm
I've added the remaining chapters of this wonderful glimpse into the past to my web pages. "Under the Carpathians - Home of a Forgotten People", published 1946...
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Carl Kotlarchik
ktlrchk
Dec 8, 2005 8:00 pm
Does anyone know what the "Urbaria et Consription" records are? Thanks, Carl Kotlarchik...
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S. R.
srkrizan
Dec 8, 2005 9:18 pm
I could also use help in Hungarian inscription on tombstones. Njudodjek Bekebi and Nyugodyon Bekeben Simon Krizan ... From: SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com...
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Bill Tarkulich
smitko2
Dec 8, 2005 9:19 pm
"Urbaria et Consription" = Feudal Property Census - a listing of all taxable property in the kingdom. These Census were done with great regularity. It is not...
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lkocik@...
docval49
Dec 8, 2005 10:03 pm
Bill Doesn't conscription refer to military"draft" records? repectfully Larry kocik [Koczik, Koczich...ad naseum....] ... From: "Bill Tarkulich"...
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Carl Kotlarchik
ktlrchk
Dec 9, 2005 12:44 am
So, what does the word "jobbagy" mean in these records? Were serfs taxable property? Do these records index people as taxable property? ... were ... census, ...
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Vladimir Bohinc
vbohinc
Dec 9, 2005 6:04 am
Jobbagy means serf. Serfs as subjects did not really own any property in those times. The real owner was the landlord. All three cathegories of serfs had to...
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Antal Burjan
hungaricus_1969
Dec 9, 2005 6:05 am
1.) Nyugodjon békében = Nyugodjék békében = May he (she) rest in peace 2.) Urbaria et conscriptiones: "The nobility of Hungary controlled most of the land...
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Janet Kozlay
jkozlay
Dec 9, 2005 6:17 am
Serfs were not slaves. Their persons were not "owned," only their labor. They could not, for instance, be bought and sold. For much of the feudal period,...
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Andrea Vangor
cinuka
Dec 9, 2005 8:01 am
I think there are some other points to consider, and I hope to be forgiven if I am not stating them well. Or for confusing the issue. Nonetheless, does it...
