Hello group,



I have found the baptismal record of my wife's

grandfater, Ferdinand Ando, who was born in Turna

(Torna) nad Bodvou on 29 May 1886 (southwest of

Kosice).  It is a great source of information, but I

am having some problems with the handwriting and

abbreviations used in the records.



Would someone be willing to help me with this?

If so, I could send the scanned sheets via Email.



Here is what I have so far (in doubt letters shown as

"-":



Nativitatis: 1886 Maius 29

Nomen: Ferenc(a? h? ia?)  (Adult name was Ferdinand)

Sexus masc.: fia

legit: Sorve----s

Nomen Parentum: Hegedus Ando

Locus Domicilii: Torna

Obervationes: meg(h?)alt 1886 Junius 30



Another question....

A nearby town, somewhat larger, is Moldava nad Bodvou.

What does "nad Bodvou" mean?



Thanks to all,

Larry

Moldava nad Bodvou = Moldava on (the) Bodvou (river)



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Hello group,



I have found the baptismal record of my wife's

grandfater, Ferdinand Ando, who was born in Turna

(Torna) nad Bodvou on 29 May 1886 (southwest of

Kosice).  It is a great source of information, but I

am having some problems with the handwriting and

abbreviations used in the records.



Would someone be willing to help me with this?

If so, I could send the scanned sheets via Email.



Here is what I have so far (in doubt letters shown as

"-":



Nativitatis: 1886 Maius 29

Nomen: Ferenc(a? h? ia?)  (Adult name was Ferdinand)

Sexus masc.: fia

legit: Sorve----s

Nomen Parentum: Hegedus Ando

Locus Domicilii: Torna

Obervationes: meg(h?)alt 1886 Junius 30



Another question....

A nearby town, somewhat larger, is Moldava nad Bodvou.

What does "nad Bodvou" mean?



Thanks to all,

Larry













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I can give a little help.



This was an infant, Ferencz (Hungarian for Francis), born May 29, 1886, died

(meghalt) June 30, 1886.  Fia means son.  Hegedus Ando was his father's

name, and he was born in Torna.



There seems to be a mixture of Hungarian and Latin in these records.



Janet







Hello group,



I have found the baptismal record of my wife's

grandfater, Ferdinand Ando, who was born in Turna

(Torna) nad Bodvou on 29 May 1886 (southwest of

Kosice).  It is a great source of information, but I

am having some problems with the handwriting and

abbreviations used in the records.



Would someone be willing to help me with this?

If so, I could send the scanned sheets via Email.



Here is what I have so far (in doubt letters shown as

"-":



Nativitatis: 1886 Maius 29

Nomen: Ferenc(a? h? ia?)  (Adult name was Ferdinand)

Sexus masc.: fia

legit: Sorve----s

Nomen Parentum: Hegedus Ando

Locus Domicilii: Torna

Obervationes: meg(h?)alt 1886 Junius 30



Another question....

A nearby town, somewhat larger, is Moldava nad Bodvou.

What does "nad Bodvou" mean?



Thanks to all,

Larry













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Yes, the church is Roman Catholic so the forms, at least, are Latin,

but the comments are Hungarian; Turna at the time was in Hungary, as

I understand.



Well, Harrumph!!

I know that our Ferdinand (Fred) Ando came from Turna and I was

hoping he was born there also.  So... still looking for Ferdinand

Ando b. May 1886 in (then) Hungary. Parents were Martin Ando and

Lydia Kulcsar.





-- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "Janet Kozlay" <kozlay@c...>

wrote:

> I can give a little help.

>

> This was an infant, Ferencz (Hungarian for Francis), born May 29,

1886, died

> (meghalt) June 30, 1886.  Fia means son.  Hegedus Ando was his

father's

> name, and he was born in Torna.

>

> There seems to be a mixture of Hungarian and Latin in these records.

>

> Janet

>

>

>

> Hello group,

>

> I have found the baptismal record of my wife's

> grandfater, Ferdinand Ando, who was born in Turna

> (Torna) nad Bodvou on 29 May 1886 (southwest of

> Kosice).  It is a great source of information, but I

> am having some problems with the handwriting and

> abbreviations used in the records.

>

> Would someone be willing to help me with this?

> If so, I could send the scanned sheets via Email.

>

> Here is what I have so far (in doubt letters shown as

> "-":

>

> Nativitatis: 1886 Maius 29

> Nomen: Ferenc(a? h? ia?)  (Adult name was Ferdinand)

> Sexus masc.: fia

> legit: Sorve----s

> Nomen Parentum: Hegedus Ando

> Locus Domicilii: Torna

> Obervationes: meg(h?)alt 1886 Junius 30

>

> Another question....

> A nearby town, somewhat larger, is Moldava nad Bodvou.

> What does "nad Bodvou" mean?

>

> Thanks to all,

> Larry

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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--- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "Larry" <lb5532@y...> wrote:

> Yes, the church is Roman Catholic so the forms, at least, are Latin,

> but the comments are Hungarian; Turna at the time was in Hungary, as

> I understand.

>

> Well, Harrumph!!

> I know that our Ferdinand (Fred) Ando came from Turna and I was

> hoping he was born there also.  So... still looking for Ferdinand

> Ando b. May 1886 in (then) Hungary. Parents were Martin Ando and

> Lydia Kulcsar.





Larry



Janet is correct, a mixture of Latin and some Hungarian  words.

But I read it differently ?



Nativitatis

date of birth

1886 Maius 29

      May

Nomen

name

FERENC(Z) Hungarian

Francis

Nomen Parentum

parent name (father)

Hegedüs is a Magyar surname

ANDO(R) dim. for first name ANDRA'S

andy,andrew

or (N)A'NDOR for Ferdinand

Sexus

sex (gender)

masculine

male

FIA Hungarian

son, son of

legitimatus

legitimate

Locus Domicilii

Location (place of residence)

Torna

Observationes

comments

MEGHALT  Hungarian

deceased

1886 Junius 30

      June





Frank K

>

> -- In SLOVAK-ROOTS@yahoogroups.com, "Janet Kozlay" <kozlay@c...>

> wrote:

> > I can give a little help.

> >

> > This was an infant, Ferencz (Hungarian for Francis), born May 29,

> 1886, died

> > (meghalt) June 30, 1886.  Fia means son.  Hegedus Ando was his

> father's

> > name, and he was born in Torna.

> >

> > There seems to be a mixture of Hungarian and Latin in these

records.

> >

> > Janet

> >

> >

> >

> > Hello group,

> >

> > I have found the baptismal record of my wife's

> > grandfater, Ferdinand Ando, who was born in Turna

> > (Torna) nad Bodvou on 29 May 1886 (southwest of

> > Kosice).  It is a great source of information, but I

> > am having some problems with the handwriting and

> > abbreviations used in the records.

> >

> > Would someone be willing to help me with this?

> > If so, I could send the scanned sheets via Email.

> >

> > Here is what I have so far (in doubt letters shown as

> > "-":

> >

> > Nativitatis: 1886 Maius 29

> > Nomen: Ferenc(a? h? ia?)  (Adult name was Ferdinand)

> > Sexus masc.: fia

> > legit: Sorve----s

> > Nomen Parentum: Hegedus Ando

> > Locus Domicilii: Torna

> > Obervationes: meg(h?)alt 1886 Junius 30

> >

> > Another question....

> > A nearby town, somewhat larger, is Moldava nad Bodvou.

> > What does "nad Bodvou" mean?

> >

> > Thanks to all,

> > Larry

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> email to

> > SLOVAK-ROOTS-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

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> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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I'm not an expert, but my understanding is that the

observation of meghalt, 30 May 1886, indicates the

child died the day after it was born.  Are you sure

you have the right record?



Tim Skvarenina





--- Larry Bell <lb5532@...> wrote:



> Hello group,

>

> I have found the baptismal record of my wife's

> grandfater, Ferdinand Ando, who was born in Turna

> (Torna) nad Bodvou on 29 May 1886 (southwest of

> Kosice).  It is a great source of information, but I

> am having some problems with the handwriting and

> abbreviations used in the records.

>

> Would someone be willing to help me with this?

> If so, I could send the scanned sheets via Email.

>

> Here is what I have so far (in doubt letters shown

> as

> "-":

>

> Nativitatis: 1886 Maius 29

> Nomen: Ferenc(a? h? ia?)  (Adult name was Ferdinand)

> Sexus masc.: fia

> legit: Sorve----s

> Nomen Parentum: Hegedus Ando

> Locus Domicilii: Torna

> Obervationes: meg(h?)alt 1886 Junius 30

>









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