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#7595 From: "missanja" <missanja@...>
Date: Tue Sep 1, 2009 12:46 am
Subject: Two worktrade positions available at Women's Herbal Symposium
missanja
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I hope this is OK to post here. My friend and I can no longer make it to the
women's Herbal Symposium in Laytonville (Sept 4-7). We have two worktrade
positions that provide registration at a significant discount: $110 each (versus
$325).

Information can be found at:

http://www.womensherbalsymposium.org/pages/symposium.html

We can offer our positions to other women. Our worktrasde positions are kitchen
prep, 3 hours per each day. I can provide more details for anyone that is
interested.

We would love to get our $110 back but are open to offers. We would accept
payment through Paypal and provide papers of our registration and work trade
details. We will notify the organizers with the names of those taking our place.
They can also be contacted directly.

With gratitude,
Anja

#7596 From: jenne@...
Date: Thu Sep 10, 2009 1:31 am
Subject: Classes for Herbal Symposium, Sept 12 in Maplewood NJ
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Greetings.
We're still having that herbal symposium on Sept. 12 in Maplewood NJ.
Event announcement: http://www.eastkingdom.org/event-detail.html?eid=1752

Here's a link to the list of classes:

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Asd-nIL7USWpdDF3Vy03ZlA0WFM1eGhtaGlMWmJ\
0VlE&hl=en


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#7597 From: Carowyn Silveroak <silveroak@...>
Date: Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:10 pm
Subject: Website Back Up
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Greetings,

Typing for Corwyn, who had to hit the ground running at work after taking
3 days off for vacation this weekend....

The EKHAG website is back up and running, if anything's missing, please
let us know by sending an email to this address.

Thank you for your patience,

-Carowyn
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#7598 From: "lynxx" <hedgehog4@...>
Date: Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:04 pm
Subject: Medieval cold and flu?
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I know people used herbs in period for sniffles and coughs.  According to the
humors, these symptoms were signs of excess cold and wetness in the body. Warm
broth would be hot but not dry. An external plaster could be both hot and dry,
such as crushed garlic or mustard.

Since I have misplaced my leechbook, who has any suggestions for keeping healthy
in winter and perhaps avoiding flu symptoms?

Catherine de Winter

#7599 From: "lynxx" <hedgehog4@...>
Date: Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:06 pm
Subject: Re: Classes for Herbal Symposium, Sept 12 in Maplewood NJ
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How was the Herbal Symposium?  Was it well attended?  Report, please, for those
of us who were unable to travel.  Thank you.

Catherine de Winter
Caid

#7600 From: "McIsaac & Capnerhurst" <cageytlc@...>
Date: Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:25 pm
Subject: Re: Medieval cold and flu?
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Four Thieves, or similar aromatic vinegars, are period.  They are and were anti-bac, anti-viral, and anti-fungal.  They were used to wipe down surfaces, as sprays, internally, as nosegays and in the long masks of the physicians, for that reason known as 'quacks'.
 
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----- Original Message -----
From: lynxx
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:04 PM
Subject: [SCA-Herbalist] Medieval cold and flu?

 


I know people used herbs in period for sniffles and coughs. According to the humors, these symptoms were signs of excess cold and wetness in the body. Warm broth would be hot but not dry. An external plaster could be both hot and dry, such as crushed garlic or mustard.

Since I have misplaced my leechbook, who has any suggestions for keeping healthy in winter and perhaps avoiding flu symptoms?

Catherine de Winter


#7601 From: Jennifer Heise <jenne.heise@...>
Date: Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:49 pm
Subject: Re: Medieval cold and flu?
zajaczkowa
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I think we've been over this before; I've not been able to find documentation for 4 thieves vinegar before 1600. Have you found something on this?

Loimologia or an historical Account of the Plague in London in 1665
has several references to vinegar, especially vinegar of roses. (Loimologia is available on Google Books)

On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 2:25 PM, McIsaac & Capnerhurst <cageytlc@...> wrote:
 

Four Thieves, or similar aromatic vinegars, are period.  They are and were anti-bac, anti-viral, and anti-fungal.  They were used to wipe down surfaces, as sprays, internally, as nosegays and in the long masks of the physicians, for that reason known as 'quacks'.



#7602 From: Mindslashed <mindslashed@...>
Date: Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:38 pm
Subject: Re: Medieval cold and flu?
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Greetings my Fellow Herbalists!
I've been lurking on this list for too long. I have been unable to particpate in most of the conversations being located way west out here in Antir, but perhaps I can lend some useful words to Milady Catherine de Winter's post on cold and flu!

There are many herbal remedy's people can follow to keep themselves healthy during cold and flu season! And with swine flu still bouncing around this can be especially important!

I've found through personal experience that in mundania plain old vitamin c keeps the sniffles away. Either consuming a citrus or vitC rich foods (kiwi, mango, guava, persimmon, blackcurrent, peppers, brussle sprouts, kale, and rosehips as well) on a daily basis helps keep your immune system in top shape to fight off illness.

Other herbal immune boosters (besides the traditional echinata, goldenseal and ginsing, which do work by the way!) are garlic, liquorice root (which can help fight bacterial throat infections), and the japanese maitake mushroom (and excallent antioxidant and immune booster).

In traditional chinese medicine the reccomended cures for colds and flu's change depending on the symptoms, if the disease reflects hot or cold, wet or dry. If the patient has a cold but no fever warm spicy herbs are reccomended to warm the patient (usually delivered in a broth), but if a fever develops herbs with cooling qualities are reccomended, such as peppermint (which has cooling soothing qualities to the lungs and stomach). Simliarly if the patient has a cold, wet cough the hot mustard plaster on the chest as stated by Milady Catherine will help warm and dry the patient.

Most chinese recipies include garlic, ginger, and onions in their cold and flu soup ;)  which are all standard immune boosters and antioxandants!

Everyone stay healthy!

-Kuromori Fumiyo, Master Herbalist


--- On Thu, 9/24/09, lynxx <hedgehog4@...> wrote:

From: lynxx <hedgehog4@...>
Subject: [SCA-Herbalist] Medieval cold and flu?
To: SCA-Herbalist@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 24, 2009, 11:04 AM

 


I know people used herbs in period for sniffles and coughs. According to the humors, these symptoms were signs of excess cold and wetness in the body. Warm broth would be hot but not dry. An external plaster could be both hot and dry, such as crushed garlic or mustard.

Since I have misplaced my leechbook, who has any suggestions for keeping healthy in winter and perhaps avoiding flu symptoms?

Catherine de Winter



#7603 From: "McIsaac & Capnerhurst" <cageytlc@...>
Date: Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:53 pm
Subject: Re: Medieval cold and flu?
treasach_kelle
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We have indeed gone over this before and still the first documentation we have of Four Thieves is in the 1700's, though folk wisdom places it much earlier.  However, the use of aromatic vinegars of similar formulations and usage are highly documented in still room books and other period references.  Since I am only currently doing Four Thieves and acquainted with that recipe, I mentioned that one.  But of course there are others that have a much more identifiable provenance.
 
Quack masks with aromatic vinegars, esp. garlic, much like Four Thieves:
 
"Venice Carnival masks
Masks made the Venetian Carnival unique. If you cannot identify the wearer of the mask, you do not know his social status. In this way, Venice temporarily overturned her social order. Some of the masks depicted Commedia dell'Arte characters. Others were more sinister. The white-beaked mask so famous from photographs is that of the plague-doctor; the beak echoes a doctor's long breathing apparatus that held a sponge doused in vinegar, thought to hold the plague at bay. The Doges were frequently exercised by the dangers masks allowed, and passed laws limiting their use to within the carnival period; if you wore a mask at any other time of year, penalties were severe."
 
 
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [SCA-Herbalist] Medieval cold and flu?

 

I think we've been over this before; I've not been able to find documentation for 4 thieves vinegar before 1600. Have you found something on this?

Loimologia or an historical Account of the Plague in London in 1665
has several references to vinegar, especially vinegar of roses. (Loimologia is available on Google Books)

On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 2:25 PM, McIsaac & Capnerhurst <cageytlc@telus.net> wrote:
 

Four Thieves, or similar aromatic vinegars, are period.  They are and were anti-bac, anti-viral, and anti-fungal.  They were used to wipe down surfaces, as sprays, internally, as nosegays and in the long masks of the physicians, for that reason known as 'quacks'.



#7604 From: "McIsaac & Capnerhurst" <cageytlc@...>
Date: Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:56 pm
Subject: Re: Medieval cold and flu?
treasach_kelle
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Echinacea doesn't work with 'O' blood types.  Though Elderberries and Astragalus do...
 
Treasach
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Organic, fair trade, handmade herbal treats and cosmetics.
Twitter: http://twitter.com/Treasach
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: [SCA-Herbalist] Medieval cold and flu?

 

Greetings my Fellow Herbalists!
I've been lurking on this list for too long. I have been unable to particpate in most of the conversations being located way west out here in Antir, but perhaps I can lend some useful words to Milady Catherine de Winter's post on cold and flu!

There are many herbal remedy's people can follow to keep themselves healthy during cold and flu season! And with swine flu still bouncing around this can be especially important!

I've found through personal experience that in mundania plain old vitamin c keeps the sniffles away. Either consuming a citrus or vitC rich foods (kiwi, mango, guava, persimmon, blackcurrent, peppers, brussle sprouts, kale, and rosehips as well) on a daily basis helps keep your immune system in top shape to fight off illness.

Other herbal immune boosters (besides the traditional echinata, goldenseal and ginsing, which do work by the way!) are garlic, liquorice root (which can help fight bacterial throat infections), and the japanese maitake mushroom (and excallent antioxidant and immune booster).

In traditional chinese medicine the reccomended cures for colds and flu's change depending on the symptoms, if the disease reflects hot or cold, wet or dry. If the patient has a cold but no fever warm spicy herbs are reccomended to warm the patient (usually delivered in a broth), but if a fever develops herbs with cooling qualities are reccomended, such as peppermint (which has cooling soothing qualities to the lungs and stomach). Simliarly if the patient has a cold, wet cough the hot mustard plaster on the chest as stated by Milady Catherine will help warm and dry the patient.

Most chinese recipies include garlic, ginger, and onions in their cold and flu soup ;)  which are all standard immune boosters and antioxandants!

Everyone stay healthy!

-Kuromori Fumiyo, Master Herbalist


--- On Thu, 9/24/09, lynxx <hedgehog4@verizon.net> wrote:

From: lynxx <hedgehog4@verizon.net>
Subject: [SCA-Herbalist] Medieval cold and flu?
To: SCA-Herbalist@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 24, 2009, 11:04 AM

 


I know people used herbs in period for sniffles and coughs. According to the humors, these symptoms were signs of excess cold and wetness in the body. Warm broth would be hot but not dry. An external plaster could be both hot and dry, such as crushed garlic or mustard.

Since I have misplaced my leechbook, who has any suggestions for keeping healthy in winter and perhaps avoiding flu symptoms?

Catherine de Winter



#7605 From: Amy Provost <sparrowhawk9@...>
Date: Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:15 pm
Subject: Re: Medieval cold and flu?
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I have never, ever heard of echinacea not working for any blood type.  If echinacea doesn't work (as in some clinical trials), you're just not taking enough.  Recent research has also shown that the medicine is most concentrated in the seeds, not the roots as once thought.

Best bet for staying healthy this season is a daily dose of raw garlic (anti-microbial properties are lost during cooking), astragalus, and eleuthero (fka siberian ginseng). 

Ameline

On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:56 PM, McIsaac & Capnerhurst <cageytlc@...> wrote:
 

Echinacea doesn't work with 'O' blood types.  Though Elderberries and Astragalus do...
 
Treasach
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Organic, fair trade, handmade herbal treats and cosmetics.
Twitter: http://twitter.com/Treasach
facebook.com/trey.capnerhurst



#7606 From: Shield of Peace <randgrithr@...>
Date: Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:56 pm
Subject: Re: Medieval cold and flu?
eileen_trono...
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This may be a wee bit off topic, but when it comes to the flu, I am a
firm believer in the POWAH of CHEESE.

Came down with the flu one Friday. Was going to have to wait until
Monday to see my doctor. Settled down with a hunk of stilton as
"comfort food". By Monday the flu was GONE. No doctor's visit. No
copay. No prescription. Just a $7.50 wedge of cheese.

  It's period, too. Pliny likes it. ;-7

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penicillium_roqueforti

Aquilina

#7607 From: "McIsaac & Capnerhurst" <cageytlc@...>
Date: Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:01 pm
Subject: Re: Medieval cold and flu?
treasach_kelle
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I took plenty, in tincture and other forms.  And I took it in many different regimes as well.  As herbalists, most of us are trained to feel and judge effects on our bodies.  I never found Ech. did a thing for me. 
 
Years later, my mentor told me that Ech. doesn't work on 'O's.  Years after that, I found out my blood type was O.  Since it's immune action lies in boosting T cell count, it is possible that certain kinds of blood are less stimulated by the herb.  I'm not a 'blood type' kinda gal, but I'll have to go with my experience.
 
" If you have type ‘O' blood group you may find Echinacea tincture doesn't work as well for you but Plantain tincture may work very well."
 
"which, unlike Echinacea, can be recommended for all blood types."  http://www.forresthealth.com/store/Blood-Type-O/
 
http://www.MisticalAcScents.etsy.com
Organic, fair trade, handmade herbal treats and cosmetics.
Twitter: http://twitter.com/Treasach
facebook.com/trey.capnerhurst
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: [SCA-Herbalist] Medieval cold and flu?

 

I have never, ever heard of echinacea not working for any blood type.  If echinacea doesn't work (as in some clinical trials), you're just not taking enough.  Recent research has also shown that the medicine is most concentrated in the seeds, not the roots as once thought.

Best bet for staying healthy this season is a daily dose of raw garlic (anti-microbial properties are lost during cooking), astragalus, and eleuthero (fka siberian ginseng). 

Ameline

On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:56 PM, McIsaac & Capnerhurst <cageytlc@telus.net> wrote:
 

Echinacea doesn't work with 'O' blood types.  Though Elderberries and Astragalus do...
 
Treasach
http://www.MisticalAcScents.etsy.com
Organic, fair trade, handmade herbal treats and cosmetics.
Twitter: http://twitter.com/Treasach
facebook.com/trey.capnerhurst



#7608 From: "ratshrink" <ratshrink@...>
Date: Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:49 pm
Subject: Re: Medieval cold and flu?
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I hadn't heard of the seeds being more active than the root (though I haven't
recently looked at literatue about echinacea).  Would you please provide the
reference?

--- In SCA-Herbalist@yahoogroups.com, Amy Provost <sparrowhawk9@...> wrote:
>
> I have never, ever heard of echinacea not working for any blood type.  If
> echinacea doesn't work (as in some clinical trials), you're just not taking
> enough.  Recent research has also shown that the medicine is most
> concentrated in the seeds, not the roots as once thought.
>
> Best bet for staying healthy this season is a daily dose of raw garlic
> (anti-microbial properties are lost during cooking), astragalus, and
> eleuthero (fka siberian ginseng).
>
> Ameline

#7609 From: "ratshrink" <ratshrink@...>
Date: Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:59 pm
Subject: Re: Medieval cold and flu?
ratshrink
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While I agree that subjective knowledge of compounds can help the practioner,
generalizations based on a few cases is instrumental in preventing herbalism
from being taken seriously.  The lact of effect in your personal case may be due
to other factors.  Blood type may have a contribution, but its not a commonly
known effect nor have I seen any studies on it.  Would you please provide
additional references for this blood type effect?  Thanks.

--- In SCA-Herbalist@yahoogroups.com, "McIsaac & Capnerhurst" <cageytlc@...>
wrote:
>
> I took plenty, in tincture and other forms.  And I took it in many different
regimes as well.  As herbalists, most of us are trained to feel and judge
effects on our bodies.  I never found Ech. did a thing for me.
>
> Years later, my mentor told me that Ech. doesn't work on 'O's.  Years after
that, I found out my blood type was O.  Since it's immune action lies in
boosting T cell count, it is possible that certain kinds of blood are less
stimulated by the herb.  I'm not a 'blood type' kinda gal, but I'll have to go
with my experience.
>
> " If you have type 'O' blood group you may find Echinacea tincture doesn't
work as well for you but Plantain tincture may work very well."
> http://www.biodynamicorganictinctures.co.uk/echinacea-winter-colds-flu.html
>
> "which, unlike Echinacea, can be recommended for all blood types." 
http://www.forresthealth.com/store/Blood-Type-O/
>
> http://www.MisticalAcScents.etsy.com
> Organic, fair trade, handmade herbal treats and cosmetics.
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/Treasach
> facebook.com/trey.capnerhurst
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Amy Provost
>   To: SCA-Herbalist@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 2:15 PM
>   Subject: Re: [SCA-Herbalist] Medieval cold and flu?
>
>
>     I have never, ever heard of echinacea not working for any blood type.  If
echinacea doesn't work (as in some clinical trials), you're just not taking
enough.  Recent research has also shown that the medicine is most concentrated
in the seeds, not the roots as once thought.
>
>   Best bet for staying healthy this season is a daily dose of raw garlic
(anti-microbial properties are lost during cooking), astragalus, and eleuthero
(fka siberian ginseng).
>
>   Ameline

#7610 From: "McIsaac & Capnerhurst" <cageytlc@...>
Date: Fri Sep 25, 2009 5:08 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Medieval cold and flu?
treasach_kelle
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I provided at least two links on the subject from a casual Google search, so I know that it's not just me or my mentor.  However, feel free to pursue the subject yourself if you find it of interest.  I still recommend Echinacea to my clients, but I give that little disclaimer, and I also recommend other immunostimulants as well.
 
Treasach

 
----- Original Message -----
From: ratshrink
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 10:59 AM
Subject: [SCA-Herbalist] Re: Medieval cold and flu?

 

While I agree that subjective knowledge of compounds can help the practioner, generalizations based on a few cases is instrumental in preventing herbalism from being taken seriously. The lact of effect in your personal case may be due to other factors. Blood type may have a contribution, but its not a commonly known effect nor have I seen any studies on it. Would you please provide additional references for this blood type effect? Thanks.

--- In SCA-Herbalist@yahoogroups.com, "McIsaac & Capnerhurst" <cageytlc@...> wrote:
>
> I took plenty, in tincture and other forms. And I took it in many different regimes as well. As herbalists, most of us are trained to feel and judge effects on our bodies. I never found Ech. did a thing for me.
>
> Years later, my mentor told me that Ech. doesn't work on 'O's. Years after that, I found out my blood type was O. Since it's immune action lies in boosting T cell count, it is possible that certain kinds of blood are less stimulated by the herb. I'm not a 'blood type' kinda gal, but I'll have to go with my experience.
>
> " If you have type 'O' blood group you may find Echinacea tincture doesn't work as well for you but Plantain tincture may work very well."
> http://www.biodynamicorganictinctures.co.uk/echinacea-winter-colds-flu.html
>
> "which, unlike Echinacea, can be recommended for all blood types." http://www.forresthealth.com/store/Blood-Type-O/
>
> http://www.MisticalAcScents.etsy.com
> Organic, fair trade, handmade herbal treats and cosmetics.
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/Treasach
> facebook.com/trey.capnerhurst
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Amy Provost
> To: SCA-Herbalist@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 2:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [SCA-Herbalist] Medieval cold and flu?
>
>
> I have never, ever heard of echinacea not working for any blood type. If echinacea doesn't work (as in some clinical trials), you're just not taking enough. Recent research has also shown that the medicine is most concentrated in the seeds, not the roots as once thought.
>
> Best bet for staying healthy this season is a daily dose of raw garlic (anti-microbial properties are lost during cooking), astragalus, and eleuthero (fka siberian ginseng).
>
> Ameline


#7611 From: Amy Provost <sparrowhawk9@...>
Date: Fri Sep 25, 2009 5:53 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Medieval cold and flu?
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It was Stephen Buhner that said to harvest when the seeds are ripe, but the petals are still present.  I don't see a study referenced in his book, so it must be something that was discussed at one of my herbal meetings.  I'll ask this weekend where that came from.

On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 12:49 PM, ratshrink <ratshrink@...> wrote:
 

I hadn't heard of the seeds being more active than the root (though I haven't recently looked at literatue about echinacea). Would you please provide the reference?



--- In SCA-Herbalist@yahoogroups.com, Amy Provost <sparrowhawk9@...> wrote:
>
> I have never, ever heard of echinacea not working for any blood type. If
> echinacea doesn't work (as in some clinical trials), you're just not taking
> enough. Recent research has also shown that the medicine is most
> concentrated in the seeds, not the roots as once thought.
>
> Best bet for staying healthy this season is a daily dose of raw garlic
> (anti-microbial properties are lost during cooking), astragalus, and
> eleuthero (fka siberian ginseng).
>
> Ameline




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#7612 From: "Kingstaste" <kingstaste@...>
Date: Sat Sep 26, 2009 12:26 am
Subject: Herbal Cough, Cold and Flu Syrup
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I just poured off my brandy tincture that has been steeping for two weeks, mixed it with wildflower honey and lemon juice and bottled it up.  I took one teaspoonful as a taste test (yah, not going to win any tasty beverage awards).  Since I took that one teaspoon, my chest feels less congested than it has since I started snuffling with seasonal allergies a week or so ago.  It has been getting slowly better, and there has been some residual congestion and coughing, but weee-haw, I can feel my chest opening up now and I’m feeling pretty good.  I think I have a winner!

 

Here’s what I used (based almost entirely on what I had on hand in the house):

 

Herbal Cough, Cold, & Flu Syrup

 

Cherry Bark, Willow Bark, Licorice, Mullein, Coltsfoot, Thyme, Dandelion Root, Cinnamon Chips, Brandy, Vodka, and Dr. Steven’s Elixir (made by THLady Temair – distillation of more healthful herbs). 

 

Ok, Cold and Flu season, I’m as ready as I’m gonna be!

Christianna


#7613 From: Lila Richards <lilar@...>
Date: Sat Sep 26, 2009 1:29 am
Subject: Re: Herbal Cough, Cold and Flu Syrup
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Hi,

Here are some cough/cold recipes from a British TV series called Grow Your Own Drugs, presented by James Wong, a biochemist and gardener. They're not mediaeval but you may find them helpful. He has lots of other interesting recipes, which you can find here: http://tvnz.co.nz/grow-your-own-drugs/drugs-recipes-2958156

Elderflower Throat Lozenges
10-15 fresh elderflower heads
12 eucalyptus leaves
2 tbsp linseed
3 tsp dried elderberries
1 cup Gum Arabic
2 cups Icing Sugar
4 cups hot water

1 Firstly, put about 10-15 elderflower heads into 3 cups of freshly boiled water to create a basic infusion. Add 2 tbsp of linseed and 12 eucalyptus leaves and leave for about an hour. It's  ready when the pure watery liquid starts to have a similar consistency to egg white.
2 Whilst it's infusing, use a pestle and mortar to break up a cup of Gum Arabic into the smallest pieces you can - this is so it dissolves as easily as possible. Into that add 3 tsp of dried elderberries and crush.
3 Next, add the Gum Arabic mixture into a cup of hot water. Stir using a spoon until the granules of gum have turned into a thick, treacly jam-like consistency.
4 Strain the infusion, and add a cup and a half of it to the Gum Arabic mixture. Next, add 2 cups of icing sugar and mix; the sugar acts as a preservative and gives it body.
5 Place it on a low heat and stir continuously for about half an hour until it gets to a really thick, syrup-like consistency and starts to come away from the sides of the pan. You can also test by pouring it with the spoon and touching it; if it doesn't stick to your finger it's ready, but do be careful as it could be hot.
6 Finally pour onto a baking tray lined with greaseproof paper and leave to set. When it's hard it's just a case of bashing it until you get the right size pieces!

STORAGE Coat the lozenges with icing sugar to stop them sticking together, and to take out some of the moisture.
VARIATION If you want to make a cough syrup instead of lozenges, just add half the amount of sugar.

Marshmallow and Liquorice Cough Syrup
If using dried marshmallow root:
4 tbsp dried marshmallow root, chopped roughly
2 dried liquorice roots, broken up into small pieces
3 heads/bunches fresh elderberries
1 tsp cloves
peel of 1 mandarin
1 tsp aniseed seeds
1 sprig fresh eucalyptus leaves (about 8)
500 ml water
100 ml honey
juice of 1 lime
5 tbsp glycerine
If using fresh marshmallow root:
8 tbsp fresh marshmallow root, chopped roughly
4 dried liquorice roots, broken up into small pieces
other ingredients as above

1 Put the marshmallow, liquorice, elderberries, cloves, mandarin peel, aniseed and eucalyptus leaves into a pan with the water. Simmer until the liquid is reduced by one-fifth. Remove the liquorice
and eucalyptus leaves and discard.
2 Blend the mixture in a liquidizer until smooth. Pour back into the pan and add the honey, lime juice and glycerine, then stir and simmer for 2 minutes.
3 Pour into sterilized, clear 250 ml bottles.
USE Take 2 tbsp, 3 times a day.
STORAGE Keep refrigerated. Use within 2 weeks.

Echinacea Ice Lollies
To make the tincture:
20 g fresh echinacea root
80 ml vodka
For the ice lollies:
2 medium-sized red chillis
8 cm root ginger
240 ml honey
1 sachet animal gelatine
800 ml cranberry juice
juice of 2 large lemons
80 ml Echinacea Tincture (see above)

1 Wash and chop the echinacea root, then put in a jar and pour over the vodka to cover completely. Leave for 2-4 weeks.
2 Wash and slice the chillis. Peel and thinly slice the ginger.
3 Combine the chillis, ginger, honey, gelatine and cranberry juice in a saucepan, then stir and simmer for 5 minutes. Take off the heat and leave to cool. Sieve into a bowl.
4 When the drained liquid is cool, stir in the lemon juice and Echinacea Tincture. Pour into ice lolly moulds and freeze.
USE Take during colds or infection.
NB Contains alcohol.
STORAGE
The lollies keep in the freezer for 3 months.


Sinech.
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#7614 From: "lynxx" <hedgehog4@...>
Date: Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:31 pm
Subject: Re: Medieval cold and flu?
catherine_de...
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What an interesting discussion!  Thanks, all.

Of course we all know that a one-shot of herbs doesn't work like a prescription
med, with instant improvement.  Herbs work in conjunction with the whole body. 
Eating a balanced diet, getting enough sleep and protein are essential for the
herbs to help the body heal itself.

Prevention is always better than treatment. What herbs facilitate a balanced
immune system to protect us?

Catherine de Winter

#7615 From: Dianne Russell <cat_herder@...>
Date: Sun Sep 27, 2009 7:01 am
Subject: Is there anything I can use to get rid of fleas?
tamara_sca
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Is there anything natural I can use to get rid of fleas on my pets and in my house? We have use Frontline and Advantage on the cats all spring and summer and nothing is working. However the  Advantage did work in the past until early summer of this year.

We have used bug bombs of every kind on the market from department stores, home centers, expensive pet shops and nothing is working. It knoxs them back for a few days but they are back before the week is out. I read about salting your carpets and we tried that but it didn't work and took forever to get out of the carpets. We vacuum every day. Change the vacuum bag. Put a flea collar in the bag.

We don't have a every cold winter here in North Florida to kill them off. The inside cats seem to be having it worst then the outside cats.


thanks.

#7616 From: "alandleslyan" <lars@...>
Date: Sun Sep 27, 2009 12:07 pm
Subject: Re: Is there anything I can use to get rid of fleas?
alandleslyan
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Hi

This works: To a cupful of borax powder in a bowl
             Add 5 drops each of essential oils of
             Sweet Orange, Lavender, Pennyroyal
             mix gently
             Add the fine-ground zest of a Lime
             put into a shaker container
             and use to dust your carpet,
             especially where pets sleep
             Let set for an hour or so before vaccuuming.

leslyan


--- In SCA-Herbalist@yahoogroups.com, Dianne Russell <cat_herder@...> wrote:
>
> Is there anything natural I can use to get rid of fleas on my pets and in my
house? We have use Frontline and Advantage on the cats all spring and summer and
nothing is working. However the Advantage did work in the past until early
summer of this year.
>
> We have used bug bombs of every kind on the market from department stores,
home centers, expensive pet shops and nothing is working. It knoxs them back for
a few days but they are back before the week is out. I read about salting your
carpets and we tried that but it didn't work and took forever to get out of the
carpets. We vacuum every day. Change the vacuum bag. Put a flea collar in the
bag.
>
> We don't have a every cold winter here in North Florida to kill them off. The
inside cats seem to be having it worst then the outside cats.
>
>
> thanks.
>

#7617 From: Ysabeau <lady.ysabeau@...>
Date: Sun Sep 27, 2009 1:55 pm
Subject: Re: Is there anything I can use to get rid of fleas?
austin_baebe
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You didn't say if you have a yard or not. I have indoor cats but this spring it was so dry that the fleas in my yard were finding their way inside. I don't use my backyard much but that is where the were coming from. My neighbors that share my fence both have dogs. I went out to grill a steak for the first time of the season and I was attacked by fleas. That was why nothing I did inside worked. Once I treated the yard, the inside was fine.
 
I said "once I treated the yard". Actually, it took three treatments. I used a spray the first time, some fine flea powder the second time, and then finally broke down and used the Ortho stuff that kills everything. It is the only thing I've found that works.
 
I hope that helps!
Ysabeau

On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 2:01 AM, Dianne Russell <cat_herder@...> wrote:
 

Is there anything natural I can use to get rid of fleas on my pets and in my house? We have use Frontline and Advantage on the cats all spring and summer and nothing is working. However the  Advantage did work in the past until early summer of this year.

We have used bug bombs of every kind on the market from department stores, home centers, expensive pet shops and nothing is working. It knoxs them back for a few days but they are back before the week is out. I read about salting your carpets and we tried that but it didn't work and took forever to get out of the carpets. We vacuum every day. Change the vacuum bag. Put a flea collar in the bag.

We don't have a every cold winter here in North Florida to kill them off. The inside cats seem to be having it worst then the outside cats.


thanks.



#7618 From: Aelfwyn@...
Date: Sun Sep 27, 2009 10:10 am
Subject: Re: Is there anything I can use to get rid of fleas?
aelfwynmarie
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I had a very similar discussion with my vet last month. He tells me that vets are hearing a LOT this year that Advantage and Frontline are not working where they have worked in the past. He says it is due to the fleas now producing an immunity to both of these products. He suggested switching to a new product (whose name I naturally can't remember right now) at $20 a dose, which is painful to those of us that already bought the year's supply of Frontline/Advantage. I don't have an herbal remedy to suggest, but with a dog and a cat that have their own door so are both indoor/outdoor, you KNOW I'll be following this thread closely.
Aelfwyn
 
In a message dated 9/27/2009 3:02:02 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cat_herder@... writes:
Is there anything natural I can use to get rid of fleas on my pets and in my house? We have use Frontline and Advantage on the cats all spring and summer and nothing is working. However the  Advantage did work in the past until early summer of this year.

#7619 From: ">^-.-^<" <catzilla@...>
Date: Sun Sep 27, 2009 2:52 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Is there anything I can use to get rid of fleas?
catzilla69
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Cats should not be exposed to essential oils, even indirectly.  Here is an
informative site:
http://www.thelavendercat.com/

> This works: To a cupful of borax powder in a bowl
>             Add 5 drops each of essential oils of
>             Sweet Orange, Lavender, Pennyroyal

#7620 From: Richenda du Jardin <richenda.du.jardin@...>
Date: Sun Sep 27, 2009 3:04 pm
Subject: Re: Is there anything I can use to get rid of fleas?
richendaduja...
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Try bathing your cats in feverfew. Not only does it help with the fleas,
but their coats will be silky soft.

As for preventing re-infections, that's much more difficult.  Talk to
your local gardening experts. It's too late to try preventative
plantings and, with winter nearing, much of that problem will resolve.
But they might have ideas for next year.

Richenda

#7621 From: Lady Biya <aisinbiya@...>
Date: Sun Sep 27, 2009 3:18 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Is there anything I can use to get rid of fleas?
aisinbiya
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This wonderful thread keeps telling me that, for all the annoyance of my birds turning my furniture to toothpicks and my books, including the $100 folios for my SCA research, into confetti, that there are actual advantages to having a parrot!  THEY DON'T GET FLEAS!

they can get mites, but in 28 years of aviculture, I've never had a mite infestation.  So nothing ever on my birds.

So GOOD LUCK everyone dealing with the fleas.

We are in full autumn molt around here.


--
Laurel A. Rockefeller


#7622 From: "McIsaac & Capnerhurst" <cageytlc@...>
Date: Sun Sep 27, 2009 7:01 pm
Subject: Re: Is there anything I can use to get rid of fleas?
treasach_kelle
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This has come up before for bed bugs, and I always recommend DE.  In fact, I stocked it in my shop specifically because I couldn't find anyone carrying the food quality version locally.
 
From my page on the topic:
Got bugs? This is your non-chemical, hypoallergenic solution.

On hard-body insects like bedbugs, tics, fleas, dust mites, and cockroaches, and even on internal parasites, this totally non-toxic natural mined mineral eliminates infestations without ever building up resistance. Safe for children and pets, it can be used again and again without losing efficacy, and provides long term protection when dusted around areas of vulnerability.

As with any fine dust, do not breathe in and avoid contact with eyes.

Some websites of interest:
http://eap.mcgill.ca/publications/eap4.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diatomaceous_earth
http://www.vitalitymagazine.com/node/384
 
Diatomaceous earth does in fact work mechanically, and therefore the bugs cannot build up resistance like chemicals.  It scratches the exoskeleton, dehydrating the bugs.
 
It is not ground up shells.  It is in fact a non-renewable, but currently very abundant resource.  It is fossilized diatoms (hence the term Diatomaceous).  They are ancient form of phytoplankton, microscopic sea creatures, that look like pollen under an electron scanning microscope and in their normal state are very delicate.  After lithification, the calcium has turned to rock, and it can pierce even the tough exoskeleton of a bed bug. 
 
Treasach

 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: [SCA-Herbalist] Is there anything I can use to get rid of fleas?

 

Try bathing your cats in feverfew. Not only does it help with the fleas,
but their coats will be silky soft.

As for preventing re-infections, that's much more difficult. Talk to
your local gardening experts. It's too late to try preventative
plantings and, with winter nearing, much of that problem will resolve.
But they might have ideas for next year.

Richenda


#7623 From: "ratshrink" <ratshrink@...>
Date: Sun Sep 27, 2009 7:03 pm
Subject: Re: Is there anything I can use to get rid of fleas?
ratshrink
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On the herbal side, I've heard pennyroyal on the carpets (or in the straw on the
dirt floor if your home is period)is the primary treatment for fleas and other
insects.

On a more modern note, diatomateous earth (the pulverized shells of ancient sea
creatures - or something like that)in the carpet is frequently recommended. The
siliconized version that is used in swimming pools would not be good to get on
your cats fur and have them lick off.  The food grade version is available
online.  I was able to get a 25 pound bag (I still have half of the bag 5 years
later) at a feed store for about $10.

I also use a flea comb on my cats frequently, then drop the fleas into cup of
alcohol to kill them.

In reference to your email address, have you seen this video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk7yqlTMvp8

Diana
--- In SCA-Herbalist@yahoogroups.com, Dianne Russell <cat_herder@...> wrote:
>
> Is there anything natural I can use to get rid of fleas on my pets and in my
house? We have use Frontline and Advantage on the cats all spring and summer and
nothing is working. However the Advantage did work in the past until early
summer of this year.
>

#7624 From: Richenda du Jardin <richenda.du.jardin@...>
Date: Sun Sep 27, 2009 7:10 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Is there anything I can use to get rid of fleas?
richendaduja...
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Pennyroyal is not a good herb to use around cats -- it is a member of
the mint family (like catnip and catmint) that cats will go nuts over.
Unfortunately, it is toxic. It's also not good for dogs or other pets
that groom with their tongues for the same reason.

Richenda

ratshrink wrote:
>
>
> On the herbal side, I've heard pennyroyal on the carpets (or in the
> straw on the dirt floor if your home is period)is the primary
> treatment for fleas and other insects.
>
> On a more modern note, diatomateous earth (the pulverized shells of
> ancient sea creatures - or something like that)in the carpet is
> frequently recommended. The siliconized version that is used in
> swimming pools would not be good to get on your cats fur and have them
> lick off. The food grade version is available online. I was able to
> get a 25 pound bag (I still have half of the bag 5 years later) at a
> feed store for about $10.
>
> I also use a flea comb on my cats frequently, then drop the fleas into
> cup of alcohol to kill them.
>
> In reference to your email address, have you seen this video?
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk7yqlTMvp8
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk7yqlTMvp8>
>
> Diana
> --- In SCA-Herbalist@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:SCA-Herbalist%40yahoogroups.com>, Dianne Russell
> <cat_herder@...> wrote:
> >
> > Is there anything natural I can use to get rid of fleas on my pets
> and in my house? We have use Frontline and Advantage on the cats all
> spring and summer and nothing is working. However the Advantage did
> work in the past until early summer of this year.
> >
>
>

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