I hope this is OK to post here. My friend and I can no longer make it to the
women's Herbal Symposium in Laytonville (Sept 4-7). We have two worktrade
positions that provide registration at a significant discount: $110 each (versus
$325).

Information can be found at:

http://www.womensherbalsymposium.org/pages/symposium.html

We can offer our positions to other women. Our worktrasde positions are kitchen
prep, 3 hours per each day. I can provide more details for anyone that is
interested.

We would love to get our $110 back but are open to offers. We would accept
payment through Paypal and provide papers of our registration and work trade
details. We will notify the organizers with the names of those taking our place.
They can also be contacted directly.

With gratitude,
Anja

Greetings.
We're still having that herbal symposium on Sept. 12 in Maplewood NJ.
Event announcement: http://www.eastkingdom.org/event-detail.html?eid=1752

Here's a link to the list of classes:

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Asd-nIL7USWpdDF3Vy03ZlA0WFM1eGhtaGlMWmJ\
0VlE&hl=en


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I know people used herbs in period for sniffles and coughs.  According to the
humors, these symptoms were signs of excess cold and wetness in the body. Warm
broth would be hot but not dry. An external plaster could be both hot and dry,
such as crushed garlic or mustard.

Since I have misplaced my leechbook, who has any suggestions for keeping healthy
in winter and perhaps avoiding flu symptoms?

Catherine de Winter

How was the Herbal Symposium?  Was it well attended?  Report, please, for those
of us who were unable to travel.  Thank you.

Catherine de Winter
Caid

----- Original Message -----

From: lynxx

To: SCA-Herbalist@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:04 PM

Subject: [SCA-Herbalist] Medieval cold and flu?

 

I know people used herbs in period for sniffles and coughs. According to the humors, these symptoms were signs of excess cold and wetness in the body. Warm broth would be hot but not dry. An external plaster could be both hot and dry, such as crushed garlic or mustard.

Since I have misplaced my leechbook, who has any suggestions for keeping healthy in winter and perhaps avoiding flu symptoms?

Catherine de Winter

----- Original Message -----

From: Jennifer Heise

To: SCA-Herbalist@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:49 PM

Subject: Re: [SCA-Herbalist] Medieval cold and flu?

 

I think we've been over this before; I've not been able to find documentation for 4 thieves vinegar before 1600. Have you found something on this?

Loimologia or an historical Account of the Plague in London in 1665
has several references to vinegar, especially vinegar of roses. (Loimologia is available on Google Books)

On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 2:25 PM, McIsaac & Capnerhurst <cageytlc@telus.net> wrote:

 

Four Thieves, or similar aromatic vinegars, are period.  They are and were anti-bac, anti-viral, and anti-fungal.  They were used to wipe down surfaces, as sprays, internally, as nosegays and in the long masks of the physicians, for that reason known as 'quacks'.

http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=19098331

----- Original Message -----

From: Mindslashed

To: SCA-Herbalist@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:38 PM

Subject: Re: [SCA-Herbalist] Medieval cold and flu?

 

Greetings my Fellow Herbalists! I've been lurking on this list for too long. I have been unable to particpate in most of the conversations being located way west out here in Antir, but perhaps I can lend some useful words to Milady Catherine de Winter's post on cold and flu! There are many herbal remedy's people can follow to keep themselves healthy during cold and flu season! And with swine flu still bouncing around this can be especially important! I've found through personal experience that in mundania plain old vitamin c keeps the sniffles away. Either consuming a citrus or vitC rich foods (kiwi, mango, guava, persimmon, blackcurrent, peppers, brussle sprouts, kale, and rosehips as well) on a daily basis helps keep your immune system in top shape to fight off illness. Other herbal immune boosters (besides the traditional echinata, goldenseal and ginsing, which do work by the way!) are garlic, liquorice root (which can help fight bacterial throat infections), and the japanese maitake mushroom (and excallent antioxidant and immune booster). In traditional chinese medicine the reccomended cures for colds and flu's change depending on the symptoms, if the disease reflects hot or cold, wet or dry. If the patient has a cold but no fever warm spicy herbs are reccomended to warm the patient (usually delivered in a broth), but if a fever develops herbs with cooling qualities are reccomended, such as peppermint (which has cooling soothing qualities to the lungs and stomach). Simliarly if the patient has a cold, wet cough the hot mustard plaster on the chest as stated by Milady Catherine will help warm and dry the patient. Most chinese recipies include garlic, ginger, and onions in their cold and flu soup ;)  which are all standard immune boosters and antioxandants! Everyone stay healthy! -Kuromori Fumiyo, Master Herbalist --- On Thu, 9/24/09, lynxx <hedgehog4@verizon.net> wrote: From: lynxx <hedgehog4@verizon.net> Subject: [SCA-Herbalist] Medieval cold and flu? To: SCA-Herbalist@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, September 24, 2009, 11:04 AM   I know people used herbs in period for sniffles and coughs. According to the humors, these symptoms were signs of excess cold and wetness in the body. Warm broth would be hot but not dry. An external plaster could be both hot and dry, such as crushed garlic or mustard. Since I have misplaced my leechbook, who has any suggestions for keeping healthy in winter and perhaps avoiding flu symptoms? Catherine de Winter

This may be a wee bit off topic, but when it comes to the flu, I am a
firm believer in the POWAH of CHEESE.

Came down with the flu one Friday. Was going to have to wait until
Monday to see my doctor. Settled down with a hunk of stilton as
"comfort food". By Monday the flu was GONE. No doctor's visit. No
copay. No prescription. Just a $7.50 wedge of cheese.

  It's period, too. Pliny likes it. ;-7

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penicillium_roqueforti

Aquilina

----- Original Message -----

From: Amy Provost

To: SCA-Herbalist@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 2:15 PM

Subject: Re: [SCA-Herbalist] Medieval cold and flu?

 

I have never, ever heard of echinacea not working for any blood type.  If echinacea doesn't work (as in some clinical trials), you're just not taking enough.  Recent research has also shown that the medicine is most concentrated in the seeds, not the roots as once thought.

Best bet for staying healthy this season is a daily dose of raw garlic (anti-microbial properties are lost during cooking), astragalus, and eleuthero (fka siberian ginseng). 

Ameline

On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:56 PM, McIsaac & Capnerhurst <cageytlc@telus.net> wrote:

 

Echinacea doesn't work with 'O' blood types.  Though Elderberries and Astragalus do...

 

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I hadn't heard of the seeds being more active than the root (though I haven't
recently looked at literatue about echinacea).  Would you please provide the
reference?

--- In SCA-Herbalist@yahoogroups.com, Amy Provost <sparrowhawk9@...> wrote:
>
> I have never, ever heard of echinacea not working for any blood type.  If
> echinacea doesn't work (as in some clinical trials), you're just not taking
> enough.  Recent research has also shown that the medicine is most
> concentrated in the seeds, not the roots as once thought.
>
> Best bet for staying healthy this season is a daily dose of raw garlic
> (anti-microbial properties are lost during cooking), astragalus, and
> eleuthero (fka siberian ginseng).
>
> Ameline

While I agree that subjective knowledge of compounds can help the practioner,
generalizations based on a few cases is instrumental in preventing herbalism
from being taken seriously.  The lact of effect in your personal case may be due
to other factors.  Blood type may have a contribution, but its not a commonly
known effect nor have I seen any studies on it.  Would you please provide
additional references for this blood type effect?  Thanks.

--- In SCA-Herbalist@yahoogroups.com, "McIsaac & Capnerhurst" <cageytlc@...>
wrote:
>
> I took plenty, in tincture and other forms.  And I took it in many different
regimes as well.  As herbalists, most of us are trained to feel and judge
effects on our bodies.  I never found Ech. did a thing for me.
>
> Years later, my mentor told me that Ech. doesn't work on 'O's.  Years after
that, I found out my blood type was O.  Since it's immune action lies in
boosting T cell count, it is possible that certain kinds of blood are less
stimulated by the herb.  I'm not a 'blood type' kinda gal, but I'll have to go
with my experience.
>
> " If you have type 'O' blood group you may find Echinacea tincture doesn't
work as well for you but Plantain tincture may work very well."
> http://www.biodynamicorganictinctures.co.uk/echinacea-winter-colds-flu.html
>
> "which, unlike Echinacea, can be recommended for all blood types." 
http://www.forresthealth.com/store/Blood-Type-O/
>
> http://www.MisticalAcScents.etsy.com
> Organic, fair trade, handmade herbal treats and cosmetics.
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/Treasach
> facebook.com/trey.capnerhurst
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Amy Provost
>   To: SCA-Herbalist@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 2:15 PM
>   Subject: Re: [SCA-Herbalist] Medieval cold and flu?
>
>
>     I have never, ever heard of echinacea not working for any blood type.  If
echinacea doesn't work (as in some clinical trials), you're just not taking
enough.  Recent research has also shown that the medicine is most concentrated
in the seeds, not the roots as once thought.
>
>   Best bet for staying healthy this season is a daily dose of raw garlic
(anti-microbial properties are lost during cooking), astragalus, and eleuthero
(fka siberian ginseng).
>
>   Ameline

----- Original Message -----

From: ratshrink

To: SCA-Herbalist@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 10:59 AM

Subject: [SCA-Herbalist] Re: Medieval cold and flu?

 

While I agree that subjective knowledge of compounds can help the practioner, generalizations based on a few cases is instrumental in preventing herbalism from being taken seriously. The lact of effect in your personal case may be due to other factors. Blood type may have a contribution, but its not a commonly known effect nor have I seen any studies on it. Would you please provide additional references for this blood type effect? Thanks.

--- In SCA-Herbalist@yahoogroups.com, "McIsaac & Capnerhurst" <cageytlc@...> wrote:
>
> I took plenty, in tincture and other forms. And I took it in many different regimes as well. As herbalists, most of us are trained to feel and judge effects on our bodies. I never found Ech. did a thing for me.
>
> Years later, my mentor told me that Ech. doesn't work on 'O's. Years after that, I found out my blood type was O. Since it's immune action lies in boosting T cell count, it is possible that certain kinds of blood are less stimulated by the herb. I'm not a 'blood type' kinda gal, but I'll have to go with my experience.
>
> " If you have type 'O' blood group you may find Echinacea tincture doesn't work as well for you but Plantain tincture may work very well."
> http://www.biodynamicorganictinctures.co.uk/echinacea-winter-colds-flu.html
>
> "which, unlike Echinacea, can be recommended for all blood types." http://www.forresthealth.com/store/Blood-Type-O/
>
> http://www.MisticalAcScents.etsy.com
> Organic, fair trade, handmade herbal treats and cosmetics.
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/Treasach
> facebook.com/trey.capnerhurst
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Amy Provost
> To: SCA-Herbalist@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 2:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [SCA-Herbalist] Medieval cold and flu?
>
>
> I have never, ever heard of echinacea not working for any blood type. If echinacea doesn't work (as in some clinical trials), you're just not taking enough. Recent research has also shown that the medicine is most concentrated in the seeds, not the roots as once thought.
>
> Best bet for staying healthy this season is a daily dose of raw garlic (anti-microbial properties are lost during cooking), astragalus, and eleuthero (fka siberian ginseng).
>
> Ameline

Elderflower Throat Lozenges
10-15 fresh elderflower heads
12 eucalyptus leaves
2 tbsp linseed
3 tsp dried elderberries
1 cup Gum Arabic
2 cups Icing Sugar
4 cups hot water

1 Firstly, put about 10-15 elderflower heads into 3 cups of freshly boiled water to create a basic infusion. Add 2 tbsp of linseed and 12 eucalyptus leaves and leave for about an hour. It's  ready when the pure watery liquid starts to have a similar consistency to egg white.
2 Whilst it's infusing, use a pestle and mortar to break up a cup of Gum Arabic into the smallest pieces you can - this is so it dissolves as easily as possible. Into that add 3 tsp of dried elderberries and crush.
3 Next, add the Gum Arabic mixture into a cup of hot water. Stir using a spoon until the granules of gum have turned into a thick, treacly jam-like consistency.
4 Strain the infusion, and add a cup and a half of it to the Gum Arabic mixture. Next, add 2 cups of icing sugar and mix; the sugar acts as a preservative and gives it body.
5 Place it on a low heat and stir continuously for about half an hour until it gets to a really thick, syrup-like consistency and starts to come away from the sides of the pan. You can also test by pouring it with the spoon and touching it; if it doesn't stick to your finger it's ready, but do be careful as it could be hot.
6 Finally pour onto a baking tray lined with greaseproof paper and leave to set. When it's hard it's just a case of bashing it until you get the right size pieces!

Marshmallow and Liquorice Cough Syrup
If using dried marshmallow root:
4 tbsp dried marshmallow root, chopped roughly
2 dried liquorice roots, broken up into small pieces
3 heads/bunches fresh elderberries
1 tsp cloves
peel of 1 mandarin
1 tsp aniseed seeds
1 sprig fresh eucalyptus leaves (about 8)
500 ml water
100 ml honey
juice of 1 lime
5 tbsp glycerine
If using fresh marshmallow root:
8 tbsp fresh marshmallow root, chopped roughly
4 dried liquorice roots, broken up into small pieces
other ingredients as above

Echinacea Ice Lollies
To make the tincture:
20 g fresh echinacea root
80 ml vodka
For the ice lollies:
2 medium-sized red chillis
8 cm root ginger
240 ml honey
1 sachet animal gelatine
800 ml cranberry juice
juice of 2 large lemons
80 ml Echinacea Tincture (see above)

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What an interesting discussion!  Thanks, all.

Of course we all know that a one-shot of herbs doesn't work like a prescription
med, with instant improvement.  Herbs work in conjunction with the whole body. 
Eating a balanced diet, getting enough sleep and protein are essential for the
herbs to help the body heal itself.

Prevention is always better than treatment. What herbs facilitate a balanced
immune system to protect us?

Catherine de Winter

Hi

This works: To a cupful of borax powder in a bowl
             Add 5 drops each of essential oils of
             Sweet Orange, Lavender, Pennyroyal
             mix gently
             Add the fine-ground zest of a Lime
             put into a shaker container
             and use to dust your carpet,
             especially where pets sleep
             Let set for an hour or so before vaccuuming.

leslyan


--- In SCA-Herbalist@yahoogroups.com, Dianne Russell <cat_herder@...> wrote:
>
> Is there anything natural I can use to get rid of fleas on my pets and in my
house? We have use Frontline and Advantage on the cats all spring and summer and
nothing is working. However the Advantage did work in the past until early
summer of this year.
>
> We have used bug bombs of every kind on the market from department stores,
home centers, expensive pet shops and nothing is working. It knoxs them back for
a few days but they are back before the week is out. I read about salting your
carpets and we tried that but it didn't work and took forever to get out of the
carpets. We vacuum every day. Change the vacuum bag. Put a flea collar in the
bag.
>
> We don't have a every cold winter here in North Florida to kill them off. The
inside cats seem to be having it worst then the outside cats.
>
>
> thanks.
>

Cats should not be exposed to essential oils, even indirectly.  Here is an
informative site:
http://www.thelavendercat.com/

> This works: To a cupful of borax powder in a bowl
>             Add 5 drops each of essential oils of
>             Sweet Orange, Lavender, Pennyroyal

Try bathing your cats in feverfew. Not only does it help with the fleas,
but their coats will be silky soft.

As for preventing re-infections, that's much more difficult.  Talk to
your local gardening experts. It's too late to try preventative
plantings and, with winter nearing, much of that problem will resolve.
But they might have ideas for next year.

Richenda

----- Original Message -----

From: Richenda du Jardin

To: SCA-Herbalist@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 9:04 AM

Subject: Re: [SCA-Herbalist] Is there anything I can use to get rid of fleas?

 

Try bathing your cats in feverfew. Not only does it help with the fleas,
but their coats will be silky soft.

As for preventing re-infections, that's much more difficult. Talk to
your local gardening experts. It's too late to try preventative
plantings and, with winter nearing, much of that problem will resolve.
But they might have ideas for next year.

Richenda

On the herbal side, I've heard pennyroyal on the carpets (or in the straw on the
dirt floor if your home is period)is the primary treatment for fleas and other
insects.

On a more modern note, diatomateous earth (the pulverized shells of ancient sea
creatures - or something like that)in the carpet is frequently recommended. The
siliconized version that is used in swimming pools would not be good to get on
your cats fur and have them lick off.  The food grade version is available
online.  I was able to get a 25 pound bag (I still have half of the bag 5 years
later) at a feed store for about $10.

I also use a flea comb on my cats frequently, then drop the fleas into cup of
alcohol to kill them.

In reference to your email address, have you seen this video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk7yqlTMvp8

Diana
--- In SCA-Herbalist@yahoogroups.com, Dianne Russell <cat_herder@...> wrote:
>
> Is there anything natural I can use to get rid of fleas on my pets and in my
house? We have use Frontline and Advantage on the cats all spring and summer and
nothing is working. However the Advantage did work in the past until early
summer of this year.
>

Pennyroyal is not a good herb to use around cats -- it is a member of
the mint family (like catnip and catmint) that cats will go nuts over.
Unfortunately, it is toxic. It's also not good for dogs or other pets
that groom with their tongues for the same reason.

Richenda

ratshrink wrote:
>
>
> On the herbal side, I've heard pennyroyal on the carpets (or in the
> straw on the dirt floor if your home is period)is the primary
> treatment for fleas and other insects.
>
> On a more modern note, diatomateous earth (the pulverized shells of
> ancient sea creatures - or something like that)in the carpet is
> frequently recommended. The siliconized version that is used in
> swimming pools would not be good to get on your cats fur and have them
> lick off. The food grade version is available online. I was able to
> get a 25 pound bag (I still have half of the bag 5 years later) at a
> feed store for about $10.
>
> I also use a flea comb on my cats frequently, then drop the fleas into
> cup of alcohol to kill them.
>
> In reference to your email address, have you seen this video?
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk7yqlTMvp8
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk7yqlTMvp8>
>
> Diana
> --- In SCA-Herbalist@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:SCA-Herbalist%40yahoogroups.com>, Dianne Russell
> <cat_herder@...> wrote:
> >
> > Is there anything natural I can use to get rid of fleas on my pets
> and in my house? We have use Frontline and Advantage on the cats all
> spring and summer and nothing is working. However the Advantage did
> work in the past until early summer of this year.
> >
>
>