> > A lot of local stores seem to have some very nice looking
>silk/rayon
>velvet at pretty decent prices.  I think that the mix is 18% silk,
>the
>rest rayon.  The question is, what is this stuff like, was the
>warning
>against synthetics really aimed at the acetates or does it apply to
>this as well?  Is there any reason other than cost to avoid this sort
>of stuff?
> >

Has anyone tried midrofiber velvet supposedly won't wrinkle is washable but
cost about $20.00 a yard?

Maddalena
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if you dont want to die of heat,  avoid this too...

i made myself a gown from it,  the simplicity one thats gathering all the
comments currently....

came out beautiful, an i just about died from the heat.

steph.

Thank you most kindly for the feedback, Rowen and Lilias.  'Tis much
appreciated.

> If you like, consider having
> your lord's undertunic in the same color as your outer one, and
> vice-versa.

Ooh, I like that idea.  I've seen it but it hadn't occurred to me.

I wish I knew my fabrics better...

Alicia
Shire of False Isle

> I have had WONDERFUL luck with the following shops: <snip>

I'll have to check these out too as the only stores that sell fabric
here are WalMart and a quilting store.

A question: does anyone have experience placing orders from Canada
with these stores?  Any problems with shipping costs, customs, etc.?

Alicia
Shire of False Isle

This might have been said by now, but Kay Cushing, who I am on another List
with, has to-die-for velvets and silk velvets cheaper than anywhere else on
the web:

   http://bunys-e-fabric.twoffice.com/index.html

I am a VERY satisfied customer.  Very very very satisfied customer.  I get
all my velvets from her, as well as my velveteens :)

Vik

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Oh, boo!  Bad form on the part of the Garage!!  Is there no one you could
carpool with?  Anyone local that could swing by and pick up Isabetta?

Vik, who would if she could

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On Fri, 01 Sep 2000 20:59:25 GMT, rio@... wrote:
>
>I have had WONDERFUL luck with the following shops:
>
>http://www.fabric.com (fabrics at good prices, decent selection,
>clearly labeled fiber content, good service, frequent sales)
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

although sometimes it's wrong....  I got some of the stretch cotton
(nominally 94%cotton, 6%lycra)....it wasn't....it was plain old poly
cotton/spandex stretch twill.  Not necessarily their fault, since they
probably got it mislabeled, but still.  Somebody on another list
bought some of the natural "cotton-linen" and it melted when she went
to iron it.

I love www.fabrics-store.com ....really nice linen, great prices,
quick shipping.


I also use gstreet, although not much for garb (I do early period, adn
the linen from fabrics-store is all I need)

I've got orders coming in either tomorrow or Tuesday from both gstreet
and fabrics-store.


FWIW
stasia
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On Fri, 1 Sep 2000 14:37:33 -0700, "Guy Gascoigne - Piggford"
<guy@...> wrote:

>A lot of local stores seem to have some very nice looking silk/rayon
>velvet at pretty decent prices.  I think that the mix is 18% silk, the
>rest rayon.  The question is, what is this stuff like, was the warning
>against synthetics really aimed at the acetates or does it apply to
>this as well?  Is there any reason other than cost to avoid this sort
>of stuff?

It's probably too shiny for period, although it is nice stuff (I've
got a length of it to make a holiday dress) .  Other than that, rayon
is a cellulosic fiber, and breathes as well as silk in a comparable
weave.
Most synthetic velvet is nylon or polyester....

Acetate actually breathes better than polyester or nylon...it's just
that it's extremely fragile when it gets the least bit wet, and since
satin is a fragile weave anyway, acetate satin will pretty much shred
under its own weight.

I generally figure that linen will breathe the best, followed by
cotton, silk/rayon/tencel and then the synthetics.

jenn
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On Sat, 02 Sep 2000 02:14:40 -0000, the following was written in this
electric book by "Judy Harcus" <jharcus@...>:


>> I have had WONDERFUL luck with the following shops: <snip>
>
>I'll have to check these out too as the only stores that sell fabric
>here are WalMart and a quilting store.
>
>A question: does anyone have experience placing orders from Canada
>with these stores?  Any problems with shipping costs, customs, etc.?

I know that dharmatrading.com ships to Canada, but you also have the
option of http://www.farthingales.on.ca , who I have not personally
done business with, but have heard wonderful things about from others.

Margery La A.
"I dress funny professionally."
Hold the spam to reply. TechnoSystem
StrangeGirl: http://strangegirl.50megs.com

I have been thinking about costume jewelry...  I love amethysts & am looking
for some good ones as I want to have a new ring made for my 25th wedding
anniversary.  It would be cool to know what "cut" & such were period... say
13th-15th C.  I know... that's a long time!  But I haven't figured out what
century I live in yet.  <G>  Gwynnedd

Gwynnedd verch Rhys,  the fumble-fingered,  living in the Current Middle
Ages in the Kingdom of the West, Principality of Cynagua, Shire of Desert
Garden
Est, videt, amat: in aeternitate Dei viget, in veritate Dei lucet, in
bonitate Dei gaudet.
Jennifer  jhill@...
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-Edmund Burke

Cabochon cut were period, as well as bullet cut and semi-table cut.
Nothing like the brilliants of today, naturally.  I can get you great
discounts on gems :)

Vik, the jeweller, who's b-stone is amethyst

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----- Original Message -----
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To: <SCA-Garb@egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 9:54 PM
Subject: [SCA-Garb] HELP!


         What I do to keep my sideless surcotte on is to attach a brooch at
each shoulder.  Also, because mine is the extra long (cover the stains on
the cooking garb) style, I tuck it into my belt or tie the ends of my bell
sleeves to the sides to lift it up when I'm traveling or dancing.  Good
luck!

                                Aurora de la Lumiere

>
> I've been working on a sideless surcoat that I though would be fairly easy
> to do and I'd knock it off real quick---yeah right!  Even though I
measured
> correctly, followed the instructions correctly, I ended up with MAJOR
> gapitis in the front and even worse in the back.  I made the straps
smaller
> to allow room to move, but the one thing I hadn't done when drafting the
> pattern was to measure from shoulder to shoulder--at least where I'd want
> the straps to lie.  I have short shoulders that angle down, so straps tend
> to slip off--which these are doing horribly.  Would it be totally OOP to
> add a pleat in the middle to get rid of some of the excess fabric?  I do
> have a front and back gore so there is already a panel in there---would it
> look ok to maybe bring the excess together in a backwards box pleat and
> then blind stitch it together---then it would look like I have a seam all
> the way down the middle of the front and back.  I know that the surcoat is
> typically one piece (one front and one back)--would this just throw the
> look off?  I uploaded pics to the file section--someone please take a look
> and tell me how I can fix this!
>
>

Good amethysts are gorgeous in cabochon, which would  be a period cut for
about any era...cabochon, in silver.  AIn't costume jewelry, and won't cost
you your firstborn child.....

     Liadain,
     with a shiny new catalog from Fire Mountain Gems,
ooooooooooooo.........

> I have been thinking about costume jewelry...  I love amethysts & am
looking
> for some good ones as I want to have a new ring made for my 25th wedding
> anniversary.  It would be cool to know what "cut" & such were period...
say
> 13th-15th C.  I know... that's a long time!  But I haven't figured out
what
> century I live in yet.  <G>  Gwynnedd
>
> Gwynnedd verch Rhys,  the fumble-fingered,  living in the Current Middle
> Ages in the Kingdom of the West, Principality of Cynagua, Shire of Desert
> Garden
> Est, videt, amat: in aeternitate Dei viget, in veritate Dei lucet, in
> bonitate Dei gaudet.
> Jennifer  jhill@...
> The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do
nothing.
> -Edmund Burke
>
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well, with an rm husband who's viking, yep.;-)
hugs,
Moira

how many of us on this list are lds, btw?
hugs,
Moira

sounds good to me.  I haven't heard anywhere where pinning is considered
"altering the original construction".  any other thoughts?
hugs,
Moira

In a message dated 9/2/00 1:05:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
ladyvictoria@... writes:

<< Vik, the jeweller, who's b-stone is amethyst >>
3 of the 6 of us here have that b-stone as well.
hugs,
Moira

Nay.. Isabetta lives far on the fringes of the Barony and no one had space
in a tent... Isabetta doesnt -have- a tent... so I would have been day
tripping.  So out of luck all around :(  So I have been consoling myself by
plotting the trapunto design out this afternoon.

Isabetta Taddea

Greetings
I am working on my first garb just for me since I made the folkways afghani
dress for an international folk dance group I belonged to. I finished my
chemise (it feels heavenly) of pleated gauze. I am now working on a skirt
and vest. My present question is what do I use instead of a zipper for
closure to be more period?

Thank you for your time

a newbie
Admiranda Greenearth

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> Nay.. Isabetta lives far on the fringes of the Barony and no one had space
> in a tent... Isabetta doesnt -have- a tent... so I would have been day
> tripping.  So out of luck all around :(  So I have been consoling myself by
> plotting the trapunto design out this afternoon.
>

I feel your pain.  This weekend is one of West Kingdom's more entertaining
and fun events, and I am not there because I have the flu and it's sort of
rainy here.  I was going to daytrip as well, but this is the first time I've
gotten out of bed all day, and something tells me wandering around in the
rain like this wouldn't be a smart idea.

Remember, there's always next year. :)

- Mar -
who remains unnamed.  darn heralds.
West/Cynagua/Danegeld Tor

Mar... I named myself and I just avoid the herald :)  I have no idea if my
name is taken or not... but I'm happy with it an' it suits me just fine.  So
sorry to hear you arent feeling well.  :(  Taking meds or herbs for it?

     I have been perusing the dharama trading company website.. and I have
SEVERE wantitis..!!!!
  I am drooling over the silks...
  I have been fiddling with a pattern for tie on Italian sleeves, the forearm
at the moment,  because I want the pattern piece ready before I mark the
trapunto pattern on it.. and every time I try to tie the mock up on, it gets
major gapitis.  Were this things boned?  Or were they cut in such a way that
they didnt gap?  And Mar.. you did a really pretty Italian ren yes?  did you
just tie on the sleeves at either end? Or lace them all the way up the
backside?

Isabetta Taddea

In Philadelphia we have a coronation scheduled for Sept. 30 (Barony of
Bhakail).
The fellow I engaged to draw up a new dress for me has gone incognito,
and I was forced
(since I'm in an apartment with little space thanks to my DDP's penchant
for reading EVERYTHING)
and can't find the area to sew in (whew) to order from a catalog!!!!!

I have a wonderful fabric of black with red roses and he said when he saw
it that it wasn't exactly a period design.
Which is a shame, since I bought it at an event!!!!  So here's this
wonderful fabric, added to my desire to
go early Tudor (like in Taming of the Shrew, Eliz. Taylor-Burton), and no
seamster.  And I felt I had to "go catalog".
It's Tudor, and gold with black trim, but gee, I would have
preferred.....

Tiphaine
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>       how many of us on this list are lds, btw?

What IS LDS?

Vik, confuzzled

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I'm not, but my guess would be Latter Day Saint :D

Svanny

At 06:38 PM 09/02/2000 , you wrote:
>>       how many of us on this list are lds, btw?
>
>What IS LDS?
>
>Vik, confuzzled

Lady Victoria asked
>>What IS LDS?

Svanny replied:
> I'm not, but my guess would be Latter Day Saint :D

<g>
Gee, and here was me hoping it was a Star Trek reference...
</OOP>

YIS,
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----- Original Message -----
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Subject: RE: [SCA-Garb] salvaging the "Irish" gown


>
LOL  but I LOVE my chaimail bikini.  I never wear it to events - its not
period and besides, all the really great events are held when its way to
cold.  Also, there's the fact that I wouldn't feel comfortable in that
without my sweetheart around to protect me, and we tend to wander apart from
each other at events.

> (snip)  Ladies;
> I will say this once, I will say this a hundred times, I will even preach
> it, if you like...Wear what is comfortable to you.
> You have made more of an effort with that outfit then those skinny little
> things with their chain mail bikinis (I will reserve my thoughts on those
> things for another moment when I am in a more charitable mood-if ever)
>

> On all the simplicity patterns I like to increase the fullness of the
skirt.  (it just drapes better, and is more fun to dance in)  Remember to
add in for her highth as well as for the fact that you will probably want
the gown longer than it is pictured to be floor legnth even for a average
person.  This takes *A LOT* of extra yardage.  Sit at home with your
calculator for a while before you go to the fabric shop.
                                 Aurora de la Lumiere
>
>   Ok, now that we've hashed version C, I've got a newbie who's eyeing
> Version B (has the ribbon crossing in the front)
>   Her measurements are 34B 27W, and she's pretty tall, any
> suggestions
> on how to do this one?
>
> Turrel
>
>

I tried some for a corset-top (very small, that stuff's EXPENSIVE)  and it
didn't wrinkle or shrink or get smashed down in places.  In short, really
good dtuff, but not worth the price for a large project (at least not for
me)


                             Aurora de la Lumiere

> Has anyone tried midrofiber velvet supposedly won't wrinkle is washable
but
> cost about $20.00 a yard?
>
> Maddalena
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In a message dated 9/2/00 9:43:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
ladyvictoria@... writes:

<< What IS LDS? >>
members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints often just say LDS
when we talk to each other.  You may have heard us called "mormons".  If
anyone was offended by not being told, I'm sorry.:-)
hugs,
Moira;-)

In a message dated 9/2/00 10:24:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
gwendolyn@... writes:

<< Gee, and here was me hoping it was a Star Trek reference... >>
you mean like "too much LDS in the 60s?";-)
hugs,
Moira