One thing we could definitely do would be to post the calendar of archery events for the season I know that the Eastwatch group in Cleveland has a weekly practice and that could be a on going listing. How often will the newsletter be published?  I will start putting together a database of the articles in the "Bodkins Point" and the authors I take it we would then need "permission to publish"?

Gaelen

---

From: Marie Cowan <marieann72@...>
To: "SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com" <SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2013 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: [SCA-Archery] SCA wide archery newsletter?

 

What will the submission process be for SCA members who wish to submit items to the newsletter site? 

Other than historical reference pieces will we also see pieces about shooting techniques and tools, shoot designs used throughout our current SCA community, events, and highlights of our groups and individuals across the lands? 

Marie

On Jan 9, 2013, at 5:48 PM, John Edgerton <sirjon1@...> wrote:

 

I do not know as yet.  I will ask. 

Jon

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From: Taslen <taslen2000@...>
To: "SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com" <SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, January 9, 2013 3:23:32 PM
Subject: Re: [SCA-Archery] SCA wide archery newsletter?

 

Would the newsletter support "links" to say online videos?

Gaelen

---

From: Frank Schalles <francisschalles@...>
To: SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2013 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: [SCA-Archery] SCA wide archery newsletter?

 

Sir Jon and SCA  Archers!

I feel this is a very worthy endeavor, therefore I will throw in my name to help in whatever manner
I can for the promotion of Archery. May I suggest starting an informal Archery newsletter committee
to steer the first edition layout, logos, guidelines, etc? If there is someone who now publishes a local
newsletter to guide us, I would be happy to do the leg work.

I have been building arrows from bare shafts, spine testing, matching, and tuning which could be a
series of articles, also I have been building "board bows" from buying the boards to the tillering process,
and this also could be a series of articles.

Yours In Service,
Ld. Francois de Lions
Deputy Target Archery Marshal
Barony of Bonwicke,
Kingdom of Ansteorra

On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:42 PM, John Edgerton <sirjon1@...> wrote:

I have learned that the BoD is considering acting on a request I sent then last July. This request was to set up the sca electronic newsletter site to allow society wide newsletters for the various SCA activities such as martial, arts and sciences and service, etc.  Of particular interest to us is an archery newsletter. This is in addition to the supplemental newsletters that kingdoms can put out. Changes will have to be made to the web site to allow this to be done. 

So, since this is likely to happen, we should consider what the archery community can do make this work. We will need a group to manage and edit the newsletter and to encourage submissions to it. It can have information on archery events,current scores for society wide competitions, short useful bits of information and reviews of suppliers and books as well as articles, photos and archery art. And anything else that would be appropriate. It would contain both target archery and combat archery information.  The information in such a newsletter would be useful to many archers and could also demonstrate a sense of archery community. 

I hope we have some people in this group that are interested in working on such a project. I can provide some articles for it.  However, I have no background in publishing newsletters. 

Please crosspost this to any local archery groups and give them subscription information for this group. 

Jon

--
Change is a function of the Universe, embrace it.

----- Original Message -----

From: Taslen

To: SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 6:34 PM

Subject: Re: [SCA-Archery] SCA wide archery newsletter?

 

One thing we could definitely do would be to post the calendar of archery events for the season I know that the Eastwatch group in Cleveland has a weekly practice and that could be a on going listing. How often will the newsletter be published?  I will start putting together a database of the articles in the "Bodkins Point" and the authors I take it we would then need "permission to publish"?

Gaelen

---

From: Marie Cowan <marieann72@...>
To: "SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com" <SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2013 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: [SCA-Archery] SCA wide archery newsletter?

 

What will the submission process be for SCA members who wish to submit items to the newsletter site? 

Other than historical reference pieces will we also see pieces about shooting techniques and tools, shoot designs used throughout our current SCA community, events, and highlights of our groups and individuals across the lands? 

Marie

On Jan 9, 2013, at 5:48 PM, John Edgerton <sirjon1@...> wrote:

 

I do not know as yet.  I will ask. 

Jon

---

From: Taslen <taslen2000@...>
To: "SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com" <SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, January 9, 2013 3:23:32 PM
Subject: Re: [SCA-Archery] SCA wide archery newsletter?

 

Would the newsletter support "links" to say online videos?

Gaelen

---

From: Frank Schalles <francisschalles@...>
To: SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2013 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: [SCA-Archery] SCA wide archery newsletter?

 

Sir Jon and SCA  Archers!

I feel this is a very worthy endeavor, therefore I will throw in my name to help in whatever manner
I can for the promotion of Archery. May I suggest starting an informal Archery newsletter committee
to steer the first edition layout, logos, guidelines, etc? If there is someone who now publishes a local
newsletter to guide us, I would be happy to do the leg work.

I have been building arrows from bare shafts, spine testing, matching, and tuning which could be a
series of articles, also I have been building "board bows" from buying the boards to the tillering process,
and this also could be a series of articles.

Yours In Service,
Ld. Francois de Lions
Deputy Target Archery Marshal
Barony of Bonwicke,
Kingdom of Ansteorra

On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:42 PM, John Edgerton <sirjon1@...> wrote:

I have learned that the BoD is considering acting on a request I sent then last July. This request was to set up the sca electronic newsletter site to allow society wide newsletters for the various SCA activities such as martial, arts and sciences and service, etc.  Of particular interest to us is an archery newsletter. This is in addition to the supplemental newsletters that kingdoms can put out. Changes will have to be made to the web site to allow this to be done. 

So, since this is likely to happen, we should consider what the archery community can do make this work. We will need a group to manage and edit the newsletter and to encourage submissions to it. It can have information on archery events,current scores for society wide competitions, short useful bits of information and reviews of suppliers and books as well as articles, photos and archery art. And anything else that would be appropriate. It would contain both target archery and combat archery information.  The information in such a newsletter would be useful to many archers and could also demonstrate a sense of archery community. 

I hope we have some people in this group that are interested in working on such a project. I can provide some articles for it.  However, I have no background in publishing newsletters. 

Please crosspost this to any local archery groups and give them subscription information for this group. 

Jon

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Recently I was at a local indoor range.  While there I started chatting
with some new archers. One of the ladies showed me her elbow.  It had
bruises that any heavy fighter would be proud to brag about.  These
bruises were "a few days old".  I recommended that she twist the elbow
out of the way like other female archers have to do.  She complained
that she had tried that already and it was to uncomfortable.  I then
suggested that she open her stance in order to put more of an angle in
the shoulder.  This "put to much pressure where she had back surgery".

I'm at a loss as to what to suggest if I ever run across these folks
again.  I know the bruises can't be sustained.  I'm afraid that they
might lead to other serious health issues (such as blood clots) if they
persist.

Any suggestions?
   Samuel

----- Original Message -----

From: Samuel

To: SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 8:06 PM

Subject: [SCA-Archery] I need help with a coaching problem

 

Recently I was at a local indoor range. While there I started chatting
with some new archers. One of the ladies showed me her elbow. It had
bruises that any heavy fighter would be proud to brag about. These
bruises were "a few days old". I recommended that she twist the elbow
out of the way like other female archers have to do. She complained
that she had tried that already and it was to uncomfortable. I then
suggested that she open her stance in order to put more of an angle in
the shoulder. This "put to much pressure where she had back surgery".

I'm at a loss as to what to suggest if I ever run across these folks
again. I know the bruises can't be sustained. I'm afraid that they
might lead to other serious health issues (such as blood clots) if they
persist.

Any suggestions?
Samuel

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I usually have them start with the bow held horizontal then turn the
bow hand towards vertical without rotating the elbow.  In my
experience this works for the majority of elbow-slappers and does not
seem to place undue stress on the joint.  Otherwise, the "full-arm"
bracer helps.

On 1/9/13, Ld.blackmoon <ld.blackmoon@...> wrote:
> greetings
>
> you might try having her line up both her shoulders with her bow hand .
> sorry, I'm not very good at the description : (
> a lot of females and some guys have issues with bending the elbow out of the
> way, it places a lot of extra stress on the arm muscles as well
> by, aligning the shoulders and bow hand , the elbow will reposition from
> horizontal ( elbow facing up and down, widest parts sticking out the sides )
> to vertical ( elbow facing  sides, and widest parts sticking up and down )
> .
> you can also reposition the elbow by rolling the bow shoulder towards the
> bow hand, but it's harder on the shoulder joint in the long run : (
> 2nd possible solution,
> if she is severely hyper extending her elbow , she may need a reinforced "
> long arm guard "  that attaches both above and below the elbow , in order to
> restrict the hyper extension in the bow arm
> hope that helps : )
>
> Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun .
> Arthur
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Samuel
>   To: SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 8:06 PM
>   Subject: [SCA-Archery] I need help with a coaching problem
>
>
>
>   Recently I was at a local indoor range. While there I started chatting
>   with some new archers. One of the ladies showed me her elbow. It had
>   bruises that any heavy fighter would be proud to brag about. These
>   bruises were "a few days old". I recommended that she twist the elbow
>   out of the way like other female archers have to do. She complained
>   that she had tried that already and it was to uncomfortable. I then
>   suggested that she open her stance in order to put more of an angle in
>   the shoulder. This "put to much pressure where she had back surgery".
>
>   I'm at a loss as to what to suggest if I ever run across these folks
>   again. I know the bruises can't be sustained. I'm afraid that they
>   might lead to other serious health issues (such as blood clots) if they
>   persist.
>
>   Any suggestions?
>   Samuel
>
>
>
>   No virus found in this message.
>   Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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>

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greetings
 
you might try having her line up both her shoulders with her bow hand .
sorry, I'm not very good at the description : (
a lot of females and some guys have issues with bending the elbow out of the way, it places a lot of extra stress on the arm muscles as well
by, aligning the shoulders and bow hand , the elbow will reposition from horizontal ( elbow facing up and down, widest parts sticking out the sides ) to vertical ( elbow facing  sides, and widest parts sticking up and down ) .
you can also reposition the elbow by rolling the bow shoulder towards the bow hand, but it's harder on the shoulder joint in the long run : (
2nd possible solution,
if she is severely hyper extending her elbow , she may need a reinforced " long arm guard "  that attaches both above and below the elbow , in order to restrict the hyper extension in the bow arm
hope that helps : )
 
Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun .
Arthur

----- Original Message -----

From: Samuel

To: SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 8:06 PM

Subject: [SCA-Archery] I need help with a coaching problem

 

Recently I was at a local indoor range. While there I started chatting

with some new archers. One of the ladies showed me her elbow. It had

bruises that any heavy fighter would be proud to brag about. These

bruises were "a few days old". I recommended that she twist the elbow

out of the way like other female archers have to do. She complained

that she had tried that already and it was to uncomfortable. I then

suggested that she open her stance in order to put more of an angle in

the shoulder. This "put to much pressure where she had back surgery".

I'm at a loss as to what to suggest if I ever run across these folks

again. I know the bruises can't be sustained. I'm afraid that they

might lead to other serious health issues (such as blood clots) if they

persist.

Any suggestions?

Samuel

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Mostly Humour
thought IT could be a bit of  truth
Have her switch hands
If she can hit her self in the left elbow
while holding the bow in her right
hand she is amazing

Leaps about in delight!
What fun!  I suggest a humorous section of questions or comments to marshals by
those being taught or marshaled or stories about funny things that happen.  Only
the nice ones of course, but there are some very funny things that occur and
make us all laugh or chuckle out there and I'd love to hear some from fields
afar!
Brightly,
Lady Johanna Trewpeny
AnTirian Lady of the Bow

I would like to set up a target in my back yard but the only place I can so so
safely is with the target in front of the kitchen window.  It would be nice to
have some kind of screen - at least 6'x6' or larger - between target and house. 
I thought about Kevlar but after checking online the price is daunting. I am
shooting a 45# longbow so fairly substantial stopping ability is needed.  Any
suggestions?  Thanks!

Tom

 

I've done that sort of bruising to myself when self teaching. Turned out it wasn't my stance and it was only partially about rotating my elbow out but it was primarily about the gripon the bow itself. The grip was smooth and slippery so to maintain control I was flexing my wrist do my palm was forward to support the grip in the meat of my hand. I switched bows to a leather wrapped grip and it was secure enough that I would straighten my wrist.After learning to rotate my shoulder to gt the elbow out and then rotate my forearm back to get the thumb vertical and then not rock my wrist back I was able to reduce the bruising... but it took fixing the grip frist for me to find a solution.

Anyone else feel that the most comfortable bow grip would be a horizontal bar? Turn a long bow into a giant slingshot  and rest the arrow between first and second knuckle? It's how my arm wants to work.

 

Sean Powell / Symon de Poitiers

On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:07 PM, Doug Copley <doug.copley@...> wrote:

 

I would recommend a lower poundage bow. The problem is her form is wrong and due to several issues she does not have the strength and ability to change it. She has to go to a lower poundage bow and build up. I will have people lie on their side on a couch and use the arm that is up to reach down to the floor and pick up a gallon jug of water, after some reps that way switch ends and lay on the other side and do it again. It does not take long to build up enough muscles to start correcting the form. Also, remember it is better to shoot 20 arrows with correct for and then stop rather than continue shooting 30 more arrows and doing it wrong.

Vincenti

On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 9:22 PM, Dave <dances.with.beers@...> wrote:

 

I usually have them start with the bow held horizontal then turn the
bow hand towards vertical without rotating the elbow. In my
experience this works for the majority of elbow-slappers and does not
seem to place undue stress on the joint. Otherwise, the "full-arm"
bracer helps.

On 1/9/13, Ld.blackmoon ld.blackmoon@...> wrote:
> greetings
>
> you might try having her line up both her shoulders with her bow hand .
> sorry, I'm not very good at the description : (
> a lot of females and some guys have issues with bending the elbow out of the
> way, it places a lot of extra stress on the arm muscles as well
> by, aligning the shoulders and bow hand , the elbow will reposition from
> horizontal ( elbow facing up and down, widest parts sticking out the sides )
> to vertical ( elbow facing sides, and widest parts sticking up and down )
> .
> you can also reposition the elbow by rolling the bow shoulder towards the
> bow hand, but it's harder on the shoulder joint in the long run : (
> 2nd possible solution,
> if she is severely hyper extending her elbow , she may need a reinforced "
> long arm guard " that attaches both above and below the elbow , in order to
> restrict the hyper extension in the bow arm
> hope that helps : )
>
> Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun .
> Arthur
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Samuel
> To: SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 8:06 PM
> Subject: [SCA-Archery] I need help with a coaching problem
>
>
>
> Recently I was at a local indoor range. While there I started chatting
> with some new archers. One of the ladies showed me her elbow. It had
> bruises that any heavy fighter would be proud to brag about. These
> bruises were "a few days old". I recommended that she twist the elbow
> out of the way like other female archers have to do. She complained
> that she had tried that already and it was to uncomfortable. I then
> suggested that she open her stance in order to put more of an angle in
> the shoulder. This "put to much pressure where she had back surgery".
>
> I'm at a loss as to what to suggest if I ever run across these folks
> again. I know the bruises can't be sustained. I'm afraid that they
> might lead to other serious health issues (such as blood clots) if they
> persist.
>
> Any suggestions?
> Samuel
>
>
>
> No virus found in this message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 2013.0.2805 / Virus Database: 2637/6000 - Release Date: 12/31/12
> Internal Virus Database is out of date.
>

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I've done that sort of bruising to myself when self teaching. Turned out it wasn't my stance and it was only partially about rotating my elbow out but it was primarily about the gripon the bow itself. The grip was smooth and slippery so to maintain control I was flexing my wrist do my palm was forward to support the grip in the meat of my hand. I switched bows to a leather wrapped grip and it was secure enough that I would straighten my wrist.After learning to rotate my shoulder to gt the elbow out and then rotate my forearm back to get the thumb vertical and then not rock my wrist back I was able to reduce the bruising... but it took fixing the grip frist for me to find a solution.

Anyone else feel that the most comfortable bow grip would be a horizontal bar? Turn a long bow into a giant slingshot  and rest the arrow between first and second knuckle? It's how my arm wants to work.

 

Sean Powell / Symon de Poitiers

On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:07 PM, Doug Copley <doug.copley@...> wrote:

 

I would recommend a lower poundage bow. The problem is her form is wrong and due to several issues she does not have the strength and ability to change it. She has to go to a lower poundage bow and build up. I will have people lie on their side on a couch and use the arm that is up to reach down to the floor and pick up a gallon jug of water, after some reps that way switch ends and lay on the other side and do it again. It does not take long to build up enough muscles to start correcting the form. Also, remember it is better to shoot 20 arrows with correct for and then stop rather than continue shooting 30 more arrows and doing it wrong.

Vincenti

On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 9:22 PM, Dave <dances.with.beers@...> wrote:

 

I usually have them start with the bow held horizontal then turn the
bow hand towards vertical without rotating the elbow. In my
experience this works for the majority of elbow-slappers and does not
seem to place undue stress on the joint. Otherwise, the "full-arm"
bracer helps.

On 1/9/13, Ld.blackmoon ld.blackmoon@...> wrote:
> greetings
>
> you might try having her line up both her shoulders with her bow hand .
> sorry, I'm not very good at the description : (
> a lot of females and some guys have issues with bending the elbow out of the
> way, it places a lot of extra stress on the arm muscles as well
> by, aligning the shoulders and bow hand , the elbow will reposition from
> horizontal ( elbow facing up and down, widest parts sticking out the sides )
> to vertical ( elbow facing sides, and widest parts sticking up and down )
> .
> you can also reposition the elbow by rolling the bow shoulder towards the
> bow hand, but it's harder on the shoulder joint in the long run : (
> 2nd possible solution,
> if she is severely hyper extending her elbow , she may need a reinforced "
> long arm guard " that attaches both above and below the elbow , in order to
> restrict the hyper extension in the bow arm
> hope that helps : )
>
> Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun .
> Arthur
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Samuel
> To: SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 8:06 PM
> Subject: [SCA-Archery] I need help with a coaching problem
>
>
>
> Recently I was at a local indoor range. While there I started chatting
> with some new archers. One of the ladies showed me her elbow. It had
> bruises that any heavy fighter would be proud to brag about. These
> bruises were "a few days old". I recommended that she twist the elbow
> out of the way like other female archers have to do. She complained
> that she had tried that already and it was to uncomfortable. I then
> suggested that she open her stance in order to put more of an angle in
> the shoulder. This "put to much pressure where she had back surgery".
>
> I'm at a loss as to what to suggest if I ever run across these folks
> again. I know the bruises can't be sustained. I'm afraid that they
> might lead to other serious health issues (such as blood clots) if they
> persist.
>
> Any suggestions?
> Samuel
>
>
>
> No virus found in this message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 2013.0.2805 / Virus Database: 2637/6000 - Release Date: 12/31/12
> Internal Virus Database is out of date.
>

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I would like to set up a target in my back yard but the only place I can so so safely is with the target in front of the kitchen window. It would be nice to have some kind of screen - at least 6'x6' or larger - between target and house. I thought about Kevlar but after checking online the price is daunting. I am shooting a 45# longbow so fairly substantial stopping ability is needed. Any suggestions? Thanks!

Tom

 

Gladius (mka James Koch), the owner of Alchem Incorporated, has graciasly offered to donate two travelling prizes for Better War through Archery (February 16-17, 2013).  During the morning's competition, The winner of the Hand Bow division and the winner of the Crossbow division will take home Popinjay prizes and hold them for six months.  After six months, the Popinjays will be returned to Gladius to be used in another competition of his choosing.  In addition, Gladius is providing hats to the two winners, which will belong to them.  There will be other prizes for Youth competition, Team competition, and various prizes away in a drawing during Court.  I have attached pictures of the two Popinjays.  One holds a bow and arrow (Hand Bow division) and the other holds a crossbow (Crossbow division).

 

In addition to the individual competition, archers may participate in four-member teams to bring honor to your local groups.  If you do not have enough archers to make a team to represent your local group, there should be enough archers to make teams at the event. 

 

Also, we will have a friendly competition between fencers and fighters in order to give an opportunity for them to compete on the archery field.  For those who participate in fencing and heavy fighting, you will have to choose which team you want to be part of.  The number of people on these two teams is irrelevent as each team's total score will be divided by the number of team members.  The prize for the winning team will be bragging rights to tell the Knowne World which group makes the better archers.

 

Check out the full archery schedule at http://www.midrealm.org/sternfeld/bwta/.
--

Lord Eadric of Grenefelda

Barony of Sternfeld Archery Captain

Order of the Dragon's Barb, AoA

Order of the Golden Tower, Award of the Nova, Yeoman
 Pandus planto populus mico.

(Archers make people quiver.)

 

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Thanks all for the great ideas!  I will do some research and see what I can work
out.  Yes, Gwilym she knows and approves.  Am I a lucky guy or what?

Hello
I did not read every message
Did any one suggest that (possibly)
a sheet (or two ) of Lexan (or etc )
(tougher than Plexiglas)
could be hung over the window and not
need to be moved

thus allowing light in still

good fortune and safety

is
Johann