There is nothing to stop this bow from being used in the SCA, but I would
recommend against it for you. I believe you are the person who is just
starting out, right? This bow's draw weight is 45 pounds at 28 inches.
That is very heavy for a woman who is just starting in archery. For that
matter it is a pretty heavy draw weight for any woman. more than I would
like to pull, and I have been in archery for years. You should probably
start out with something more in the 25-30 pound range. If it is too heavy
a draw you can hurt your shoulder, and that would ruin the fun part.

Nest
--- mekilno <everildtheclumsy@...> wrote:
> Hey guys, I was jsut wondering if someone could tell me if this:
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
> ViewItem&item=3679118999&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBI%3AIT&rd=1 - would be
> an OK bow to use in the SCA.  I think it is, but I just wanted
> someone to check it over for me.... ;)
>
> Thanks!
>
> Everild
> quite annoyed that she's turned out to be left eye dominant....
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Nest makes a very good point.  You need to figure out what draw weight your
comfortable with and work from there.  As for the bow.  It is tough to judge
the quality of a bow without seeing it in person however, I have a shakespear
wonderbow and I find it to be a fine bow.  stong, smooth and reliable.  They are
older bows that seem to hold up well.  If you're looking for a left-handed,
45# bow, that's not a bad one to try.
Rupert
This bow's draw weight is 45 pounds at 28 inches.
That is very heavy for a woman who is just starting in archery. For that
matter it is a pretty heavy draw weight for any woman. more than I would
like to pull, and I have been in archery for years. You should probably
start out with something more in the 25-30 pound range


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I agree with the rest, it is a heavy bow when you're just starting out.
However, there's also a progression when you start out where you can
train yourself to be able to pull more.  Of course, this is only helpful
if you've got the loaner gear to be able to go up in weight.

I started with a 25' at 28" and through the course of 2 months moved by
5' every few weeks and settled at 45' at 28".  I have been shooting a
45' Martin Hunter for almost 3 years now and I just love it!  It will
give you a workout, especially if you're not used to it!  But I wouldn't
cross it out completely because of the weight; you can't beat that price
either.

Just my 2c as a female archer.

Christina
Barony of Lyondemere, Caid

-----Original Message-----
From: mekilno [mailto:everildtheclumsy@...]
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 11:07 AM
To: SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [SCA-Archery] ermmm.... new bow in the offing....

Hey guys, I was jsut wondering if someone could tell me if this:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewItem&item=3679118999&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBI%3AIT&rd=1 - would be
an OK bow to use in the SCA.  I think it is, but I just wanted
someone to check it over for me.... ;)

Thanks!

Everild
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I notice that this is a 62" bow which is a plus.  Judging from your post
about your height I would guess you have a draw length of 25 to 26 inches
(am I right?)  This would make it the right length for your draw.  If my
guess is right this would make the draw weight about 39 or 40 pounds.
Not as bad as 45 but still pretty hefty for a beginning archer.  I shoot
37 pounds in the SCA and 44 Olympic style.  The 44 is pretty tough after
a full day's shooting and I've been at this for years.  That said, the
Shakespeare is a good bow with an excellent reputation and this example
looks good in the photos.  Beware, however, the seller says they know
nothing about old bows and thus it could be a risky purchase.
Carolus

On Thu, 27 May 2004 14:43:40 EDT drosen105@... writes:
> Nest makes a very good point.  You need to figure out what draw
> weight your
> comfortable with and work from there.  As for the bow.  It is tough
> to judge
> the quality of a bow without seeing it in person however, I have a
> shakespear
> wonderbow and I find it to be a fine bow.  stong, smooth and
> reliable.  They are
> older bows that seem to hold up well.  If you're looking for a
> left-handed,
> 45# bow, that's not a bad one to try.
> Rupert
> This bow's draw weight is 45 pounds at 28 inches.
> That is very heavy for a woman who is just starting in archery. For
> that
> matter it is a pretty heavy draw weight for any woman. more than I
> would
> like to pull, and I have been in archery for years. You should
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Greetings Archers of Artemisia, here is the schedule of archery for
Uprising XVIII!

www.uprisingwar.org


We will have a large shade pavilion available at the range, plus plenty
of water, so bring your chairs. Those wanting to watch and cheer on your
favorite archer, bring your chairs too and support your local archer!!


Wednesday:
Setting up the archery range. Range may be available Wednesday evening
for practice.
Watch for Range Flag.

=======================================================
Thursday Morning:
RANGE #1
Quintain shoot - list opens at 9:00am, shoot at 9:30am:
- Quintain: A rotating target, powered by the strike of an arrow. One
hit gets it spinning, and then you have to keep hitting it.
30 second timed round.
----------------------------------------
RANGE #2
Wand shoot - list opens at 10:00am, shoot at 10:30am:
- Wand: A 2 inch wide piece of wood, that you try to hit from various
distances. Last person to succeed at the farthest distance wins.
3 arrows per distance/end.

=======================================================
Friday Morning:
RANGE #1
Clout Shoot - list opens at 9:00am, shoot at 9:30am:
- Clout: A pole is placed at a distance away from you. Archers must arc
their shot in, and try to hit the clout.
Distances: (similar to standard English Clout distances)
- Men: 180 yards
- Women: 140 yards
- Children 13-17: 120 yards
- Children 12 and under 75 yards.
6 ends, 36 total arrows shot.
----------------------------------------
RANGE #2
1/4 York - list opens at 10:00am, shoot at 10:30am:
- York: 120cm target at each distance of 60, 80 and 100 yards.
1 end of 6 arrows at 60,
2 ends of 6 arrows at 80,
3 ends of 6 arrows at 100.
36 total arrows shot.

=======================================================
RANGE #1-2
Saturday Morning:
Kingdom Archery Champion Tournament
- list opens at 9:00am, shoot at 9:30am,
- Will be comprised of the following:
- Clout shoot: 2 ends of 6 arrows (men's and women's distances only)
- York: one end of 6 arrows each distance.
- Wand: 3 arrows each distance, 20/30/40.
- Quintain: as many as you can shoot in 30sec.
Total arrows shot: Around 50 max.

.  Beware, however, the seller says they know
> nothing about old bows and thus it could be a risky purchase.
> Carolus

If you look at a blowup of the whole bow it look like one of the nocks has
the ears broken off.
NOT a good sign.  I would not risk $40 to England for this bow.

James Cunningham

--- In SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com, "James W. Pratt, Jr."
<cunning@f...> wrote:
> .  Beware, however, the seller says they know
> > nothing about old bows and thus it could be a risky purchase.
> > Carolus
>
> If you look at a blowup of the whole bow it look like one of the
nocks has
> the ears broken off.
> NOT a good sign.  I would not risk $40 to England for this bow.
>
> James Cunningham

Hmm... thanks both of you...see, it always pays to check!!


Everild,
whose over-enthusiasm really, really will get her in trouble one of
these days....

Greetings!

I am seeking building plans for a portable field bow and arrow stand I first
saw when shooting in the Kingdom of Atenveldt about 14 years ago.  I am
attaching a link to a picture of the stand.  If anyone has plans for
building something similar, my bow and I would be eternally grateful for a
copy of them!

http://sundragon.atenveldt.org/images/ElizabethanBenchDisplay.JPG

In Service,

Katherine Killigrew
(Now residing in the dew and rain soaked lands of An Tir!)

This machine is now at The Royal Armouries Museum Of Artillery at
Fort Nelson, nr Portsmouth in the UK. I have photos of a display we
did with the Crossbow in the background if anyone would like an idea
of the size of the thing.

(We are back up there next month so if it's still there and anyone
would like some more detailed shots I can get them)

Daniel

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/purbrookbowmen/purbrook_bowmen.htm


--- In SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com, "mekilno"
<everildtheclumsy@h...> wrote:
> There was a program shown in the UK a couple of months ago, where
> they tried and tested some of his designs - and one of them was
this
> crossbow!

>
> Don't let the fact that it failed put you off......;)
>
>
>
> Having said that, they didn't stick completely to the plans......

Everild,

I'm always shopping around for used equipment.  If you would like to contact me
off the group and give me some more information exactly what you are looking for
in a bow, I would be glad to go shopping for you.  I have gone to many a flea
market and found a deal.  This way you can be ensured you get a good bow and
make sure it is in usable shape for society.  Let me know.

Sheralee

Sheralee A. Panzano
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610-220-0998 (Cell)

On Fri, 28 May 2004 14:23:41 -0000, "mekilno" <everildtheclumsy@...>
wrote :

> --- In SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com, "James W. Pratt, Jr."
> <cunning@f...> wrote:
Beware, however, the seller says they know nothing about old bows and thus it
could be a risky purchase.
Carolus
> >
If you look at a blowup of the whole bow it look like one of the nocks has
the ears broken off.  NOT a good sign.  I would not risk $40 to England for this
bow.

James Cunningham

> Hmm... thanks both of you...see, it always pays to check!!
>
>
> Everild,
> whose over-enthusiasm really, really will get her in trouble one of
> these days....
>

I agree with the consensus. As a beginning archer, you should be
using a bow drawing no more than 30 lbs. If there is loaner gear
available, make use of it until you are really ready for that first
bow purchase. I waited almost a year before buying my first bow. I
had started out with a 25 lb recurve and moved up to a 30 in the
loaner gear. My current bow is a longbow that draws 37-38 lbs at 26-
1/2 inches, my draw length. I am currently in the market for
something a bit 'bigger' I can pull a 45, but it is too much for me
to shoot for very long. I am looking for something that will draw
about 40-42 lbs at my draw length.

Personally, I would not buy bows on ebay...not yet anyway. I don't
know enough about them to know for sure if I was getting anything
worth having. I know archers that do purchase them that way and do
very well, in general. A lot of our loaner gear was bought that way.
I know that there are a few bowyers that have ebay shops that have
good merchandise and I wouldnt have a problem purchasing from them.
One of these is Bitterroot Bows.

For now, I am keeping my eyes open for a bow that someone I know may
want to get rid of. A good bow, but no longer needed, perhaps
outgrown. Have someone you trust that knows bows and archery help you
find the right bow for you. It will make your life a lot easier and
more pleasant in the long run and probably save you money, too.

Good luck!

Linet Grey
Archery Marshall, Barony of the Steppes

--- In SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com, "mekilno" <everildtheclumsy@h...>
wrote:
> Hey guys, I was jsut wondering if someone could tell me if this:
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
> ViewItem&item=3679118999&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBI%3AIT&rd=1 - would
be
> an OK bow to use in the SCA.  I think it is, but I just wanted
> someone to check it over for me.... ;)
>
> Thanks!
>
> Everild
> quite annoyed that she's turned out to be left eye dominant....

My huge thanks to everyone here.  I should have learnt from fencing -
never buy anything on ebay...never mind.

A huge, huge thanks to Andras, who contacted off list with his
website, and who helped me choose - I now have a bow suitable for me,
and for use in the SCA, and cheaply, as well.

I hope to see some of you soon, maybe at War of the Roses, or Summer
tourney, so I can use it properly (until then, I'll have to pop over
to my local archery range which I've just been told about...)

Everild,
Smiling from ear to ear.

This a design created by Wayne of the Heights (then of Dreiburgen, Caid;
now of unknown location) and published in the first issue of The Caidan
Archer (Spring 1991).  I would be happy to copy them for you except that
we do not have permission to reproduce the article and so are prevented
from doing so by copyright law.  If you are coming to Caid I can let you
see my copy or perhaps someone out there has a copy you can see (I won't
suggest borrowing as I know how jealously these are guarded).  Of course,
if anyone can put me in touch with Wayne I can see about getting reprint
permission.  Or you can contact me off list.

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On Fri, 28 May 2004 08:03:10 -0700 "Katherine Killigrew"
<katherinekilligrew@...> writes:
> Greetings!
>
> I am seeking building plans for a portable field bow and arrow stand
> I first
> saw when shooting in the Kingdom of Atenveldt about 14 years ago.  I
> am
> attaching a link to a picture of the stand.  If anyone has plans
> for
> building something similar, my bow and I would be eternally grateful
> for a
> copy of them!
>
> http://sundragon.atenveldt.org/images/ElizabethanBenchDisplay.JPG
>
> In Service,
>
> Katherine Killigrew
> (Now residing in the dew and rain soaked lands of An Tir!)
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OK, I know I'm dredging up an old topic, but I have a question - is a
pocket quiver acceptable in the SCA?  I have an old pocket quiver a
friend gave me... I'll try and find a piccie of one similar...

Found one on E-bay, similar, but mine has an acorn stamped/engraved
(?) on it...

http://i14.ebayimg.com/01/i/01/c2/dd/b7_1_b.JPG

Everild,
doging the arrows...

Sure -- if you've got a pocket.  Those weren't too common in period.
Carolus

On Sat, 29 May 2004 10:48:28 -0000 "mekilno"
<everildtheclumsy@...> writes:
> OK, I know I'm dredging up an old topic, but I have a question - is a
>
> pocket quiver acceptable in the SCA?  I have an old pocket quiver a
>
> friend gave me... I'll try and find a piccie of one similar...
>
> Found one on E-bay, similar, but mine has an acorn stamped/engraved
>
> (?) on it...
>
> http://i14.ebayimg.com/01/i/01/c2/dd/b7_1_b.JPG
>
> Everild,
> doging the arrows...

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--- In SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com, Carolus Eulenhorst
<eulenhorst@j...> wrote:
> Sure -- if you've got a pocket.  Those weren't too common in period.
> Carolus


It works outside the pocket as well, just hanging from a belt...not
that I've tried it with arrows in, since I don't have any yet...

Oh, and he also sent me some string silencers made from beaver fur....

Everild

> Oh, and he also sent me some string silencers made from beaver
fur....
>
> Everild

Ah, the ever popular Beaver Balls.  They work well.  Kinda fun to
tell your local animal rights advocat you've got a set of Beaver
Balls on your bow string.

Guy

> Ah, the ever popular Beaver Balls.  They work well.  Kinda fun to
> tell your local animal rights advocat you've got a set of Beaver
> Balls on your bow string.
>
> Guy

Hehehe!!  I've already made my housemate stroke them...before telling
her what fur it was...hehehe!  Ooh, I'm evil!!! lol

Thank you for the information Lord Carolus.  Unfortunately I shall not be
jouneying to Caid in the near future.  I will try to locate a copy of the
publication of which you speak. In the meantime, James of the Lake is sending me
a snail mail copy of the plans he has.

In Service,

Katherine Killigrew

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolus Eulenhorst <eulenhorst@...>
Sent: May 28, 2004 7:37 PM
To: SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [SCA-Archery] Seeking plans for bow and arrow stand

This a design created by Wayne of the Heights (then of Dreiburgen, Caid;
now of unknown location) and published in the first issue of The Caidan
Archer (Spring 1991).  I would be happy to copy them for you except that
we do not have permission to reproduce the article and so are prevented
from doing so by copyright law.  If you are coming to Caid I can let you
see my copy or perhaps someone out there has a copy you can see (I won't
suggest borrowing as I know how jealously these are guarded).  Of course,
if anyone can put me in touch with Wayne I can see about getting reprint
permission.  Or you can contact me off list.

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On Fri, 28 May 2004 08:03:10 -0700 "Katherine Killigrew"
<katherinekilligrew@...> writes:
> Greetings!
>
> I am seeking building plans for a portable field bow and arrow stand
> I first
> saw when shooting in the Kingdom of Atenveldt about 14 years ago.  I
> am
> attaching a link to a picture of the stand.  If anyone has plans
> for
> building something similar, my bow and I would be eternally grateful
> for a
> copy of them!
>
> http://sundragon.atenveldt.org/images/ElizabethanBenchDisplay.JPG
>
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>
> Katherine Killigrew
> (Now residing in the dew and rain soaked lands of An Tir!)
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A discussion of what can be done to encourage the BOD to look at the
lack of peerage recognition for target and combat archery, siege,
rapier and thrown weapons is starting up on the sca 4 peerage list.  A
definite plan is being discussed, if you are interested in joining the
discussion you can join by sending a blank email to
sca-4peerage-subscribe@onelist.com
or by going to the web at
http://www.onelist.com/community/sca-4peerage

Jon
Sir Jon Fitz-Rauf, West, Mists, Esfenn
An Archer must be: Keen of eye, steady of hand, fleet of foot and
cunning of mind.

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Does anyone know how many, if any, SCA events have some form of horse
archery?

thank you

Jon

Sir Jon Fitz-Rauf, West, Mists, Esfenn
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cunning of mind.

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At 2:06 PM -0700 5/30/04, John edgerton wrote:
>Does anyone know how many, if any, SCA events have some form of horse
>archery?

Some of our equestrian events here in Northshield have been known to
have some.  I've seen it at some demos - not a lot, but they have set

Probably the best contact would be Viscountess Kassandra Tenebrosa,
since she has been Equestrian MIC for some of the events I saw.
(Please let me know if you need to get contact information for her.)

Jack
who dreams of doing horseback archery someeday
but first has to learn to ride a horse



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Greetings
      It occasionally pops up in events across the Midrealm. Not often,
but it has happened. There is a developing interest in the subject, and
I am actively encouraging folks to begin dabbling in it, because I like
and support the idea, and want to see more here.
      I believe the next event in the Mid that will approach the subject
is Havoc in Hastings (Southern Michigan early September), at which a
chariot-and-archer demo is supposed to be arranged. Not much more info
than that at present, but the event website is...
http://www.threewalls.org/events/havoc/index.html

Nigel, Midrealm AG

> Does anyone know how many, if any, SCA events have some form of horse
> archery?
>
> thank you
>
> Jon
>
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There will possibly be horse archery at Ansteorra Argent Anniversary They do
some in Ansteorra.
plachoya
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Ravens Fort Ansteorra


   Does anyone know how many, if any, SCA events have some form of horse
   archery?

   thank you

   Jon



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I made an error on the address.  It should be

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sca-4peerage/

Sorry

Jon





--- In SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com, John edgerton <sirjon1@p...> wrote:
> A discussion of what can be done to encourage the BOD to look at the
> lack of peerage recognition for target and combat archery, siege,
> rapier and thrown weapons is starting up on the sca 4 peerage list.  A
> definite plan is being discussed, if you are interested in joining the
> discussion you can join by sending a blank email to
> sca-4peerage-subscribe@onelist.com
> or by going to the web at
> http://www.onelist.com/community/sca-4peerage
>
> Jon
> Sir Jon Fitz-Rauf, West, Mists, Esfenn
> An Archer must be: Keen of eye, steady of hand, fleet of foot and
> cunning of mind.
>
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anyone have a line on where to get a hardcase for a 72" longbow?
I am currently useing a section of 3" pvc pipe with some foam for
padding, been looking for a little while now and the longest i can
find is about 65-66" =/

At that length you may have to stay with PVC.
plachoya
humble archer
Ravens Fort Ansteorra


   anyone have a line on where to get a hardcase for a 72" longbow?
   I am currently useing a section of 3" pvc pipe with some foam for
   padding, been looking for a little while now and the longest i can
   find is about 65-66" =/




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I use a rod and reel case that I bought at my local Academy sporting
goods store.  They will extend out well beyond the length of any bow.

I use 4.25" diameter cases and can fit several longbows in them or even
a recurve and a longbow if the recurve is not too radically recurved.
They have several different diameters and ones that telescope out.
There are several different styles.

Go to www.basspro.com  and search for  "rod case".  I use the * Plano®
Deluxe Hard Rod Cases* .

www.cabelas.com   also has a good selection to look at.

Find a place a buy local.  Because of their size they will be costly to
ship.

Regards,

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HL Eadric Anstapa
Ansteorra
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Harry Bilings wrote:

>At that length you may have to stay with PVC.
>plachoya
>humble archer
>Ravens Fort Ansteorra
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>  anyone have a line on where to get a hardcase for a 72" longbow?
>  I am currently useing a section of 3" pvc pipe with some foam for
>  padding, been looking for a little while now and the longest i can
>  find is about 65-66" =/
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Message: 1
>    Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 14:06:17 -0700
>    From: John edgerton <sirjon1@...>
> Subject: horse archery
>
> Does anyone know how many, if any, SCA events have some form of horse
> archery?
>
> thank you
>
> Jon


Sir Jon,

I am in the process of getting our Kingdom Eq. marshal warranted for
target archery, a requirement of mounted archery. I suspect marshals in
our local Barony will be next.

There should be one maybe two events in Kingdom this year, where mounted
archery may take place. I say may, because it has not been confirmed as yet.


Lord Godwin fitzGilbert de Striguil
Kingdom Archer General
Kingdom of Artemisia.

Thank you for the information.

Jon

On Monday, May 31, 2004, at 06:58 PM, Godwin fitzGilbert de Striguil
wrote:
>
> Sir Jon,
>
> I am in the process of getting our Kingdom Eq. marshal warranted for
> target archery, a requirement of mounted archery. I suspect marshals in
> our local Barony will be next.
>
> There should be one maybe two events in Kingdom this year, where
> mounted
> archery may take place. I say may, because it has not been confirmed
> as yet.
>
>
> Lord Godwin fitzGilbert de Striguil
> Kingdom Archer General
> Kingdom of Artemisia.