Talk archery up every chance you get-dance practice, demos, meetings,
fighting practice and local events.  Have your herald annouce the times
and place of your shoots at local events.   Show up at places with your
archery gear and talk about archery.  Write a newsletter article on
archery for your group and barrony.  If your group has a web site, make
sure archery information (where and when for practices are there).  Print
flyers and bring them with you.....These are a few ideas that might
help......William Ross of Skye

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As near as I can tell, before I joined our local practice group, archery was
something the fencers
did while waiting for enough fencers to make a good melee to show up. This has
the result that
most of our fencers "dabble" in archery, except for us rabid archers who
"dabble" in fencing. In
order to solidify the relationship, we're trying the "tourney prizes" tack. For
instance, at our
next fencing event on January 3 <insert shameless plug> A benefit for the
Plattsburgh, NY
Salvation Army where we hold winter fencing practice </shameless plug>, there
will be the usual
T-shirts, gear, bucklers, handmade-by-moi-parry-cloak, and a fabulous set of
matched arrows (also
handmade by moi), as well as a set consisting of a brocade longbow sock, a pair
of string keepers,
a spare longbow string, and a bow-hand protector, all handmade by moi. The idea
being that fencers
who possess archery gear will be that much more likely to use it and thus become
regular archers.
Besides, I just like to make stuff.

Oddly enough, a bow is the easiest thing to acquire out here. Every garage sale
seems to have a
spiffy recurve they sold just before I got there.

If the archers stick around for feast at events, one very public prize you could
award might be a
handful of arrows to the archer who lost or broke the most arrows that day. And
a good gag prize
guaranteed to get people to remember your archery events might be the public
awarding of something
silly but useful and highly visible like a longbow sock made to resemble Kermit
the Frog, or
string keepers made to look like tribbles with eyes.

Another way I drum up interest in archery is by (for me) quietly (and I can hear
those of you who
know me laughing) Making Stuff where people can see it at events. I plunk my
unmistakable self
down  with a pile of supplies and explain what I'm doing to anyone who wanders
too close.

Cesira Blackwork della Ougley
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a.k.a Bloody Bess Read
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My advice is to run away...run far away. I placed an order with them and haven't
heard from them in ages despite my repeated attempts to contact them. In my
opinion, look elsewhere.

Seonaid MacPhee

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I've been lurking for a while trying to get a grasp on
the "reasonably priced" longbow concept. I'm looking for a bow for
a friend. She is 6 feet tall, very strong, and a lefty, but an
intermediate level archer and doesn't have a d-shape/recurve
preference so long as there is an arrow shelf. I've checked out
woodbows.com, rudderows.com, baronbows.com, saxonarchery, and some
other sites. The longbows and recurves at Baron Bows have really
caught my attention but I don't know enough to adequately evaluate
them and haven't read much first hand experience aside from "it took
a long time to get my bow" and "the Baron Bows have less hand shock
then the woodbows.com." I would be extremely grateful for any
guidance the discussion group can provide.

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At 06:52 AM 12/7/2003 -0800, you wrote:
>My advice is to run away...run far away. I placed an order with them and
>haven't heard from them in ages despite my repeated attempts to contact
>them. In my opinion, look elsewhere.
>
>Seonaid MacPhee
>
>cwhite2812 <cwhite2812@...> wrote:
>I've been lurking for a while trying to get a grasp on
>the "reasonably priced" longbow concept. I'm looking for a bow for
>a friend. She is 6 feet tall, very strong, and a lefty, but an
>intermediate level archer and doesn't have a d-shape/recurve
>preference so long as there is an arrow shelf. I've checked out
>woodbows.com, rudderows.com, baronbows.com, saxonarchery, and some
>other sites. The longbows and recurves at Baron Bows have really
>caught my attention but I don't know enough to adequately evaluate
>them and haven't read much first hand experience aside from "it took
>a long time to get my bow" and "the Baron Bows have less hand shock
>then the woodbows.com." I would be extremely grateful for any
>guidance the discussion group can provide.
>
>Many thanks,
>Chris
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At  6:52 AM 12/7/03 -0800, Sherry Bishop wrote:
>My advice is to run away...run far away. I placed an order with them and
>haven't heard from them in ages despite my repeated attempts to contact them.
>In my opinion, look elsewhere.
>
>Seonaid MacPhee

That's really a shame.  I received a very nice bow from them a year or two
ago; shoots nice and for a reasonable price with reasonable service.  They
were very communicative with me at that time.

                                                 James
jotl@...

I know this individual. She has tried to get in touch with them
repeatedly, both by email and phone. She ordered a bow over a year ago and
they cashed the check at the time. Still she hasn't heard anything from
them a year later. Needless to say she is not very happy with the customer
service of this company.

Nest
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> At  6:52 AM 12/7/03 -0800, Sherry Bishop wrote:
> >My advice is to run away...run far away. I placed an order with them
> and
> >haven't heard from them in ages despite my repeated attempts to contact
> them.
> >In my opinion, look elsewhere.
> >
> >Seonaid MacPhee
>
> That's really a shame.  I received a very nice bow from them a year or
> two
> ago; shoots nice and for a reasonable price with reasonable service.
> They
> were very communicative with me at that time.
>
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The bows on the website look relatively well-made for the price.
It's too bad the customer service is so terrible.  I think I'll
inquire if they have anything in stock I would consider purchasing
and go from there.

Thanks for the help,
Chris

Ive noticed in the SCA pages that there is a "archers" badge....
anyone know what these look like??

Lewin de Partone

What King

Here is a links for Officers and look through it for various kingdom's Badges
http://www.goldenstag.net/MiscSCA/OfficerBadges.htm

Badges and awards in the Middle kingdom for Archers:
http://www.chameleon.net/scholari/sca/combat/rules.html

Simon Hondy

>
> I've noticed in the SCA pages that there is a "archers" badge....
> anyone know what these look like??
>
> Lewin de Partone

Keep in mind that there are sumptuary laws to take into consideration with some
of these.  Some are to be worn only by Kingdom Officers and are not populous
badges.  Others, such as those of the Archers of the East, are only to be worn
by those of designated rank (IIRC).  I know in Caid that we do not yet have a
badge for any archer who is a member of the populous, only for the Kingdom
Master of Archers.

Christina
Lyondemere, Caid

scholari@... wrote:
What King

Here is a links for Officers and look through it for various kingdom's Badges
http://www.goldenstag.net/MiscSCA/OfficerBadges.htm

Badges and awards in the Middle kingdom for Archers:
http://www.chameleon.net/scholari/sca/combat/rules.html

Simon Hondy

>
> I've noticed in the SCA pages that there is a "archers" badge....
> anyone know what these look like??
>
> Lewin de Partone


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well I need to correct  this there are badges for archers in caid (now
whether it is registered with the CoH is another story) but you will see
members wearing them.
Damales (long time archer  in Caid


I know in Caid that we do not yet have a badge for any archer who is a
member of the populous, only for the Kingdom Master of Archers.
>
> Christina
> Lyondemere, Caid

Actually, these are not sumptuary laws but rather heraldic regulations.
Sumptuary laws pertain to who may wear what materials and styles while
heraldic regulations control who may display what imagers or symbols.
Carolus


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writes:
> Keep in mind that there are sumptuary laws to take into consideration
> with some of these.  Some are to be worn only by Kingdom Officers
> and are not populous badges.  Others, such as those of the Archers
> of the East, are only to be worn by those of designated rank (IIRC).
>  I know in Caid that we do not yet have a badge for any archer who
> is a member of the populous, only for the Kingdom Master of
> Archers.
>
> Christina
> Lyondemere, Caid

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> Ive noticed in the SCA pages that there is a "archers" badge....
> anyone know what these look like??
>
> Lewin de Partone

The east kingdoms badges are at:

http://www.kellswood.com/badges.html

Nest
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> I know in Caid that we do not yet have a badge for any
> archer who is a member of the populous, only for the
> Kingdom Master of Archers.

Actual there is a badge for the archers of Caid to wear.  Let see
here. Caid archers handbook, page 22, under the Academy of Archers:

  "2. Promoting the Image of Archery in Caid

       a. All Archers in Caid are encouraged to display the Badge of
the Academy of Archers to signify their membership and to provide a
visual reminder to the Kingdom of participation of archers at non-
archery events."

It is my understanding that the badge is currently going through the
review process with the heralds, though I have no idea what it looks
like.

Carolus, as the Master of Archers for Caid, may have more
information.

Nad

Yes folks, it's that time again... The MidRealm Archer-General is
once more sponsoring the Winter Challenge. I would like to see more
scores from the East this year. It is a very simple shoot and is set
up so as to be able to shoot at an indoor range. Follow the link
below for more information. If interested and we can find a site to
do this I will be available by appointment to marshal this.

http://web.raex.com/~obsidian/wint.html#scores

Ld Ragnar MacHardy, GMB

We've talked at length...there's been a few designs floated around, but that
"Badge of the Academy" has been there since the last rewrite of the handbook
since 1999 IIRC, and it's only now in the design process...so for now, it's just
the mention, but heraldically, nothing in the books yet!  (Maybe it's been
submitted, but I haven't heard, although I did see a few of the ideas that
Carolus was working on a few months back)

Christina.

roguenad2000 <nad@...> wrote:
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> I know in Caid that we do not yet have a badge for any
> archer who is a member of the populous, only for the
> Kingdom Master of Archers.

Actual there is a badge for the archers of Caid to wear. Let see
here. Caid archers handbook, page 22, under the Academy of Archers:

"2. Promoting the Image of Archery in Caid

a. All Archers in Caid are encouraged to display the Badge of
the Academy of Archers to signify their membership and to provide a
visual reminder to the Kingdom of participation of archers at non-
archery events."

It is my understanding that the badge is currently going through the
review process with the heralds, though I have no idea what it looks
like.

Carolus, as the Master of Archers for Caid, may have more
information.

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Well, I have moved here (Knoxville) and send out e-mails and hope
messages.  I shoot blankets in my hallway and distress neighbors
with plans to set up a 'Royal Round' practice.  Is there no one in
this kingdom that ever practices, or discusses, or anything?  Lot's
of talk about Gulf Wars -- why should I even care??  Yeah, I am
combat certified, guess you don't need any help.

Kinjal

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> Well, I have moved here (Knoxville) and send out e-mails and hope
> messages.  I shoot blankets in my hallway and distress neighbors
> with plans to set up a 'Royal Round' practice.  Is there no one in
> this kingdom that ever practices, or discusses, or anything?
Lot's
> of talk about Gulf Wars -- why should I even care??  Yeah, I am
> combat certified, guess you don't need any help.


That sounds all too familiar.  Around here in Starkhafn the big talk
is Estrella War.  Though getting people out to practice here is just
as difficult.  When you ask people about archery, they sound very
excited. When you try to actualy do something, they tend to flake.

I am hoping that things change in the new future. We finaly have a
warented Range Marshal, so we can schedual an "official" practice.
So with any luck that will help get people out to the range more
often.

I have offered to do a little class on making flemish strings, or
fletching, but so far no one has show any interest localy. But I am
keeping my spirits up and trying to find a way to suck more people
in to the adiction that is archery.

Nad

I knew the feeling. When I lived in Merdies, I was the
only archer in the area (Valdosta, GA) I had some
interest from the fighters so I had set up a range so
they could shoot afterwards with my spare gear.
Unfortuantely I moved back to the East before I could
really get it going on its own and also did not get
much help at the time from the powers that be in that
Kingdom. So just keep up the hard work and I am sure
you will get it going. In regards to Nad in Starkhafn,
I may be moving to your area soon as my niece just
moved out there and jobs here are getting far and few
between.


Ld Ragnar MacHardy, GMB
--- roguenad2000 <nad@...> wrote:
> --- In SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com, "Kinjal of
> Moravia"
> <gusarimagic@r...> wrote:
> > Well, I have moved here (Knoxville) and send out
> e-mails and hope
> > messages.  I shoot blankets in my hallway and
> distress neighbors
> > with plans to set up a 'Royal Round' practice.  Is
> there no one in
> > this kingdom that ever practices, or discusses, or
> anything?
> Lot's
> > of talk about Gulf Wars -- why should I even
> care??  Yeah, I am
> > combat certified, guess you don't need any help.
>
>
> That sounds all too familiar.  Around here in
> Starkhafn the big talk
> is Estrella War.  Though getting people out to
> practice here is just
> as difficult.  When you ask people about archery,
> they sound very
> excited. When you try to actualy do something, they
> tend to flake.
>
> I am hoping that things change in the new future. We
> finaly have a
> warented Range Marshal, so we can schedual an
> "official" practice.
> So with any luck that will help get people out to
> the range more
> often.
>
> I have offered to do a little class on making
> flemish strings, or
> fletching, but so far no one has show any interest
> localy. But I am
> keeping my spirits up and trying to find a way to
> suck more people
> in to the adiction that is archery.
>
> Nad
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I came out to the summer academia in Starkhafn a few years ago and tought a
flemish string class there.  Almost had more poeple than I could handle.  You
might try offering your classes then.


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-- "roguenad2000" <nad@...> wrote:
--- In SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com, "Kinjal of Moravia"
<gusarimagic@r...> wrote:
> Well, I have moved here (Knoxville) and send out e-mails and hope
> messages.  I shoot blankets in my hallway and distress neighbors
> with plans to set up a 'Royal Round' practice.  Is there no one in
> this kingdom that ever practices, or discusses, or anything?
Lot's
> of talk about Gulf Wars -- why should I even care??  Yeah, I am
> combat certified, guess you don't need any help.


That sounds all too familiar.  Around here in Starkhafn the big talk
is Estrella War.  Though getting people out to practice here is just
as difficult.  When you ask people about archery, they sound very
excited. When you try to actualy do something, they tend to flake.

I am hoping that things change in the new future. We finaly have a
warented Range Marshal, so we can schedual an "official" practice.
So with any luck that will help get people out to the range more
often.

I have offered to do a little class on making flemish strings, or
fletching, but so far no one has show any interest localy. But I am
keeping my spirits up and trying to find a way to suck more people
in to the adiction that is archery.

Nad



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Subject: Re: [SCA-Archery] archery badges?


>What King
>
>Here is a links for Officers and look through it for various kingdom's
Badges
>http://www.goldenstag.net/MiscSCA/OfficerBadges.htm
>
>Badges and awards in the Middle kingdom for Archers:
>http://www.chameleon.net/scholari/sca/combat/rules.html
>
>Simon Hondy
>
>>
>> I've noticed in the SCA pages that there is a "archers" badge....
>> anyone know what these look like??
>>
>> Lewin de Partone

Greetings fellow archers,

     I am curious if any groups out there in the known world have ever hosted
a weekend archery symposium. If so how did it work? what was offered? is it
something that happens anually?

YIS,
Malabar Membro Spaccata

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>         Greetings fellow archers,
>
>     I am curious if any groups out there in the known world have
ever hosted
> a weekend archery symposium. If so how did it work? what was
offered? is it
> something that happens anually?
>
> YIS,
> Malabar Membro Spaccata

Ansteorra has a regular (we try for yearly) event called the "Academy
of the Bow".  A day full of archery related classes and training.  For
the last several years we have also held our spring/summer Royal
Huntsman tournament at the event.  Attendence of course depends on
time, location, can organization but generall it is fairly well receieved.

Regards,

HL Eadric Anstapa

Caid has an Archery track in its semi-annual Collegia.  We have slots for
up to 7 classes over 2 days.  If the site has facilities available we
offer shooting clinics and have a variety of classes in event
administration, equipment making, basic getting started and coaching
info, and social aspects including history, legends, place of the archer
in society, etc.  Works well.
Carolus

On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 20:51:36 -0700 ooakuph <ooakuph@...> writes:
>         Greetings fellow archers,
>
>     I am curious if any groups out there in the known world have
> ever hosted
> a weekend archery symposium. If so how did it work? what was
> offered? is it
> something that happens anually?
>
> YIS,
> Malabar Membro Spaccata

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Greetings.

My home Barony (Aquaterra, AnTir) used to host an Archery Symposium once a
year.  It was a single day teaching event, with individual classes that covered
the history of Western European archery, how to's on bows, arrows, strings,
the physics of archery and the like.  The last time it was held (about 7 years
ago), all the Masterbowman in attendance were asked to take groups of
lesser-experienced archers and work with them on shooting technique.  At the
beginning
of the day a single Royal Round was shot to establish a baseline.  At the end
of the day, another was shot.  If memory serves, every single score improved,
some quite dramatically.  To this day I'll run into folks at events who tell
me what a wonderful experience this was for them.

I am currently working on resurrecting Archery Symposium as an event.  I
plan, however, to expand it to two days, with the first day being about classes
and the second day about shooting.  Wish me luck.

HL Andras Truemark


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I haven't heard of a weekend long thing, but here in Pentamere we run an
archer's college that lasts most of a Saturday.  It usually consists of
shooting, a regional archery meeting, MIT training and some classes.  It
can be as much or as little of these things as you want.  Shooting is the
biggest draw, especially in the winter months, but classes are also a big
plus.  Hope this helps.......William Ross of Skye

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I am told that the original meaning of the word Symposium in Greek is
a "drinking party."  Perhaps a beer and BS session after the formal
classes?  Archers love to tell tales.  Just a suggestion...
   -Allan Bluehood-

--- In SCA-Archery@yahoogroups.com, atruemark@a... wrote:
> Greetings.
>
> I am currently working on resurrecting Archery Symposium as an
event.  I
> plan, however, to expand it to two days, with the first day being
about classes
> and the second day about shooting.  Wish me luck.
>
> HL Andras Truemark
>

In a message dated 12/16/03 9:50:40 PM Pacific Standard Time,
abluehood@... writes:
I am told that the original meaning of the word Symposium in Greek is
a "drinking party."  Perhaps a beer and BS session after the formal
classes?  Archers love to tell tales.  Just a suggestion...
   -Allan Bluehood-
I like the way this good gentle thinks!

Andras


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Archery in History..what books would you suggets I read?  I have
read just
a  few.  1.  Arrows against Steel and the History of the Long Bow.
What else would you suggest as avid Archers.



Achbar