Okay, some are into Borges, some are into choosing a country, some
want something they have never read before.  What do we do?  Someone
decide what we are going to read or should and then we can start
having some serious discussions.
Personally, I don't like Borges. He's pretentious and boring.  How
about Galleano or Marquez or choosing a country and we decide to read
an author that we can all talk a

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Does anyone have a map of Latin America and a dart board?
Aleida

mail.dynamite.com.au wrote:

> From: "mail.dynamite.com.au" <ssm@...>
>
> Hi,
>
> My name's Samantha. I too love the limited S/American stuff I've read, most
> of Allende, also some Garcia Marquez. I like the idea of picking a country,
> how about somewhere/someone obscure?
>
> Sam
>
>

What about Cortazar? I really liked his stories about "cronopios y famas" (I
wander how was that translated into English). And they are short so we could
reread them and start discussing very soon.
Asia
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     Data: 2 grudnia 1999 03:16
     Temat: Re: [SAmericaWriters] group reading


     Where is Borges from?
     Jason Wojciechowski wrote:

           Borges would be GREAT as a first group reading.... or perhaps we can
jump right in and go for Hundred Years of Solitude? Jason
             Hi!  My name is Mario, I am a grad student at the University of
Toronto
             (latinamerican lit.) and would be really interested in a group
reading.
             Personally I would nominate short stories by Borges (my favourite).
             Anything from Ficciones to El libro de arena or any other collection
of
             short stories would be great.  This is my presonal suggestion but Im
open to
             other readings...
             Mario

             PS: I am sorry but Im not sure of the titles in English, they should
be
             something like Fictions and The Book of Sand.


             ...y como si no hubiera mas en el mundo,
             por el firmamento paso una gaviota...
                                                -(SR)



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Hi,

My name's Samantha. I too love the limited S/American stuff I've read, most
of Allende, also some Garcia Marquez. I like the idea of picking a country,
how about somewhere/someone obscure?

Sam

In a message dated 12/1/99 6:16:38 PM Pacific Standard Time,
aleida@... writes:

<< Where is Borges from? >>


Argentina, no?

Buenos Aires, I think

Tanya

Where is Borges from?

Jason Wojciechowski wrote:

>   Borges would be GREAT as a first group reading.... or perhaps we can
> jump right in and go for Hundred Years of Solitude? Jason
>
>      Hi!  My name is Mario, I am a grad student at the University
>      of Toronto
>      (latinamerican lit.) and would be really interested in a
>      group reading.
>      Personally I would nominate short stories by Borges (my
>      favourite).
>      Anything from Ficciones to El libro de arena or any other
>      collection of
>      short stories would be great.  This is my presonal
>      suggestion but Im open to
>      other readings...
>
>      Mario
>
>      PS: I am sorry but Im not sure of the titles in English,
>      they should be
>      something like Fictions and The Book of Sand.
>
>
>      ...y como si no hubiera mas en el mundo,
>      por el firmamento paso una gaviota...
>                                         -(SR)
>
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>
>                                [Image]
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>
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>

Borges would be GREAT as a first group reading.... or perhaps we can jump right
in and go for Hundred Years of Solitude?

Jason

   Hi!  My name is Mario, I am a grad student at the University of Toronto
   (latinamerican lit.) and would be really interested in a group reading.
   Personally I would nominate short stories by Borges (my favourite).
   Anything from Ficciones to El libro de arena or any other collection of
   short stories would be great.  This is my presonal suggestion but Im open to
   other readings...

   Mario

   PS: I am sorry but Im not sure of the titles in English, they should be
   something like Fictions and The Book of Sand.


   ...y como si no hubiera mas en el mundo,
   por el firmamento paso una gaviota...
                                      -(SR)



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I must echo everyone else and say my knowledge is limited.  I would like to
read something new as well.  I've read most of Allende, although not
Daughter of Fortune.  And to make things difficult I've already read Love In
The Time Of Cholera.
I like the idea of picking a country.  If we pick a country we can then all
propose a few candidates to vote on.
Or whatever!?
I just want to read what everyone else does and then discuss it.

>From: Calistinna@...
>Reply-To: SAmericaWriters@onelist.com
>To: SAmericaWriters@onelist.com
>Subject: Re: [SAmericaWriters] Digest Number 13
>Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 17:40:51 EST
>
>In a message dated 12/1/99 11:23:57 AM Pacific Standard Time,
>aleida@... writes:
>
><< I'd like to read something new, a new author I haven't experienced.  But
>my knowledge is limited so I don't know who to nominate. THe upside is I
>probably won't have read any of the other nominees.  Should we start by
>picking a country? Author?
>  Aleida >>
>
>
>Mine is also limited... umm.. Allende- Daughter of Fortune, the House of
>the
>Spirits
>Osvaldo Soriano- Shadows
>Gabriel Garcia Marquez- Love in the TIme of Cholera.  The short story "THe
>very old man with enormous wings"
>
>Anyone have any suggestions for me?
>
>Tanya
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Hi!  My name is Mario, I am a grad student at the University of Toronto
(latinamerican lit.) and would be really interested in a group reading.
Personally I would nominate short stories by Borges (my favourite).
Anything from Ficciones to El libro de arena or any other collection of
short stories would be great.  This is my presonal suggestion but Im open to
other readings...

Mario

PS: I am sorry but Im not sure of the titles in English, they should be
something like Fictions and The Book of Sand.


...y como si no hubiera mas en el mundo,
por el firmamento paso una gaviota...
                                    -(SR)

In a message dated 12/1/99 11:23:57 AM Pacific Standard Time,
aleida@... writes:

<< I'd like to read something new, a new author I haven't experienced.  But
my knowledge is limited so I don't know who to nominate. THe upside is I
probably won't have read any of the other nominees.  Should we start by
picking a country? Author?
  Aleida >>


Mine is also limited... umm.. Allende- Daughter of Fortune, the House of the
Spirits
Osvaldo Soriano- Shadows
Gabriel Garcia Marquez- Love in the TIme of Cholera.  The short story "THe
very old man with enormous wings"

Anyone have any suggestions for me?

Tanya

I'd like to read something new, a new author I haven't experienced.  But my
knowledge is limited so I don't know who to nominate. THe upside is I probably
won't have read any of the other nominees.  Should we start by picking a
country? Author?
Aleida

I just fininshed Osvaldo Soriano's Shadows.  If I could read spanish, I
would.  I am sure the book would make more sense

Yours
Tanya

HOLA AMIGOS !  I logged onto the email for the first time in a week and was
pleasantly surprised to find some messages from the South American literature
group.  Cool!
Yes, a group read would be interesting, hoping we can all agree on a title.  My
job consumes my life so reading time is very valuable to me. If I don't like the
material, I toss it.
I am currently reading Jorge Amado's SHOW DOWN.  So far, it's good.  It has been
a long time since I read Amado.  Fifteen years ago as a university student, I
loved his books. I read TENT OF MIRACLES and DONA FLOR & HER TWO HUSBANDS for a
course called "Culture of the Oppressed".  I found the stories very lively and
touching.  I laughed out loud at some of the bawdy antics of the characters but
I was also moved to tears for the injustice they experienced.
I will keep you posted about my impressions of SHOW DOWN. It is like getting
acquainted with an old friend again.
If anyone wants to make group read suggestions, I will cast my vote.  Let's
breath some life into this group!!
Hasta la proxima post,

Mark

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Should we all submit some choices then vote?
A

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> I would be very interested in a group read.
> Let's get some life flowing on this list
>
> >From: aleida@...
> >Reply-To: SAmericaWriters@onelist.com
> >To: SAmericaWriters@onelist.com
> >Subject: Re: [SAmericaWriters] Digest Number 10
> >Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 10:32:01 -0500
> >
> >too bad I was really looking forward to the discussion.
> >
> >How many people would be interested in a group read?
> >A
> >
> >SAmericaWriters@onelist.com wrote:
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> > > In a message dated 99-11-27 09:52:52 EST, you write:
> > >
> > > << I was just wondering if this list was still alive.
> > >  Is it usually this slow?
> > >  Thanks,
> > >  Aleida
> > >   >>
> > >
> > > No one realy posts...
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I would be very interested in a group read.
Let's get some life flowing on this list

>From: aleida@...
>Reply-To: SAmericaWriters@onelist.com
>To: SAmericaWriters@onelist.com
>Subject: Re: [SAmericaWriters] Digest Number 10
>Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 10:32:01 -0500
>
>too bad I was really looking forward to the discussion.
>
>How many people would be interested in a group read?
>A
>
>SAmericaWriters@onelist.com wrote:
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> >
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> >    Date: 27 Nov 1999 14:53:03 -0000
> >    From: egg@...
> > Subject: live list?
> >
> > I was just wondering if this list was still alive.
> > Is it usually this slow?
> > Thanks,
> > Aleida
> >
> >
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> >
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> >    Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 14:44:27 EST
> >    From: Calistinna@...
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> >
> > << I was just wondering if this list was still alive.
> >  Is it usually this slow?
> >  Thanks,
> >  Aleida
> >   >>
> >
> > No one realy posts...
> > Tanya
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too bad I was really looking forward to the discussion.

How many people would be interested in a group read?
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SAmericaWriters@onelist.com wrote:

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>
>
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>
> Message: 1
>    Date: 27 Nov 1999 14:53:03 -0000
>    From: egg@...
> Subject: live list?
>
> I was just wondering if this list was still alive.
> Is it usually this slow?
> Thanks,
> Aleida
>
>
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>
> Message: 2
>    Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 14:44:27 EST
>    From: Calistinna@...
> Subject: Re: live list?
>
> In a message dated 99-11-27 09:52:52 EST, you write:
>
> << I was just wondering if this list was still alive.
>  Is it usually this slow?
>  Thanks,
>  Aleida
>   >>
>
> No one realy posts...
> Tanya
>
>
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In a message dated 99-11-27 09:52:52 EST, you write:

<< I was just wondering if this list was still alive.
  Is it usually this slow?
  Thanks,
  Aleida
   >>


No one realy posts...
Tanya

I was just wondering if this list was still alive.
Is it usually this slow?
Thanks,
Aleida

I just wanted to take a second to introduce myself since I'm new
to the list. I am a thirty year old student and live in PA. I am
enrolled in a class on contemporary Latin American literature by
women and although I have read LatAm lit before, I never went into
any kind of literary/academic depth (I just read it for pleasure as
I am a bibliophile).

Anyway I've just read Castellanos, Bombal, Lispector and of course
Allende for this wonderful course. Before this course I read LatAm
authors such as Garcia-Marquez, Zoe Valdes and Esquivel (Like Water
for Chocolate, which I didn't really like all that much-how about
you?), etc.

Looking forward to discussing these authors and finding out about new
ones from you.

Yours,
Aleida

Hi, my name is Mark, I am 37, I live in Toronto, Ontario, Canada, and I am
interested in participating in this discussion group.  I am a big fan of South
American literature and writers and hope to learn more about this culture.
The last South American book I read was Gabriel Garcia Marquez's NEWS OF THE
KIDNAPPING.  It was very different from his other books but I found it
interesting insight to Colombia.  I will endeavor to read more Latin Lit as I
participate in this group.

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Some of you may be interested in Sean Kernan's new work, "The Secret
Books," a photographic homage to Borges and books in general. I have
rarely been this impressed with a new release, and I have placed a
glowing review here:

http://www.libyrinth.com/borges/review_secret-books.html

Please feel free to read about this book, and drop me a line with any
comments you might wish to make.

Best,

--Quail
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Great Quail, Keeper of the Libyrinth:
http://www.libyrinth.com

I have always imagined that Paradise will be a kind of library.
       --J.L. Borges

I was lucky enough to have recently attended a wonderful lecture
delivered by Fuentes on the topic of Borges. I did a small write-up,
which is online at:

http://www.libyrinth.com/borges/borges_100.html

Any comments would be most welcome.

Best,

--Quail
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Great Quail, Keeper of the Libyrinth:
http://www.libyrinth.com

"His fervour for the written word was an interweaving of solemn
respect and gossipy irreverence. . . "
       --Gabriel García Márquez

I have no idea why OneList cut my last email in half! But here's the
second Fuentes lecture:

The second will be given in tandem with Umberto Eco, and is billed as
a "Celebration of Italo Calvino." That takes place on Friday, Oct 22,
and details may be found at:

http://www.libyrinth.com/eco/eco_features.html

Carlos Fuentes will be in New York City next week, delivering two
lectures. The first will be on Oct. 18, Monday night, and its topic
is the Borges Centennial. Details are at:
http://www.libyrinth.com/borges/borges.features.html

Hello,

Allow me to introduce myself. My name is Allen Ruch, though online I
prefer to go by my nickname, the Quail.

I am editor of the Libyrinth, a Web site dedicated to exploring
postmodern literature. The Libyrinth is host to a pair of sites of
possible interest to this group -- Macondo, a Gabriel Garcia Marquez
site, and the Garden of Forking Paths, a site for Borges. In the
future, we also plan to develop sites for Fuentes, Cortazar,
Saramago, and maybe Llosa.

I thought I would join this list as both a SA Lit enthusiast, and
also to alert its members that Macondo has just initiated a new
Garcia Marquez mailing list. I invite you to check out:

http://www.libyrinth.com/gabo/gabo_lists.html

Where you can find the URL to sign up for the Macondo Post mailing list.

Thanks, and I look forward to the discussions on this List!

--Quail
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Great Quail, Keeper of the Libyrinth:
http://www.libyrinth.com

"His fervour for the written word was an interweaving of solemn
respect and gossipy irreverence. . . "
       --Gabriel García Márquez

... so, is Neruda the greatest love poet ever?

I want to do with you what spring
does to cherry trees ...

yours,
Keith

In a message dated 6/18/99 11:37:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
gnossos@... writes:

<< I'm just wondering: which Clash song is that where they mention Lorca? >>


Spanish Bombs!

I'm just wondering: which Clash song is that where they mention Lorca?

And it's funny I was just thinking about writers I have looked into after
hearing
about them in my favorite music (Nabokov/The Police, Alan Watts/Meat Beat
Manifesto, John Ashberry/Pavement), and I realized that while he's not a So Amer
Writer, Alain Robbe-Grillet wrote a story about banana plantation owners in
around
So Amer and Stereolab has a song titled after one of the first sentences in one
of
the chapters (The brush descends the length).

Also, MC Solaar has name-dropped Umberto Eco, Jacques Lacan, and other
respectable
thinkers.

I just wish more bands would sing about Gabriel Garcia-Marquez.

--gnossos


SAmericaWriters@onelist.com wrote:

>       1. Re: Welcome to SAmericaWriters@onelist.com
>            From: Calistinna@...
>
>
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>
> Message: 1
>    Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 09:38:54 EST
>    From: Calistinna@...
> Subject: Re: Welcome to SAmericaWriters@onelist.com
>
> Hi my name is Tanya and I live in Greenville, SC. I am 17 years old an I go to
> the Fine Arts Center for creeative writing.
>   I recently got into Allende, and I want to know if Eva Luna is set in Chile.
> I love the book so far.  I am doing my second semester report on her.  I think
> she is amazing.  I have noticed that south american women writers weave
> mysticism, magic, life and other things into their poems/stories that many
> Americans leave out.
> I am just getting into Neruda, and I have liked Lorca for a while.  I got
> turned onto him bc he was in a Ginsberg poem and a Clash song.
> I hope to learn a lot, discuss a lot, and get reccomendations.
> If any of you would like to reccomend fiction writers- PLEASE do.  Or poets,
> certain anthologies etc etc
>
> It's nice to say hello!
> Tanya
>
>
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Hi my name is Tanya and I live in Greenville, SC. I am 17 years old an I go to
the Fine Arts Center for creeative writing.
   I recently got into Allende, and I want to know if Eva Luna is set in Chile.
I love the book so far.  I am doing my second semester report on her.  I think
she is amazing.  I have noticed that south american women writers weave
mysticism, magic, life and other things into their poems/stories that many
Americans leave out.
I am just getting into Neruda, and I have liked Lorca for a while.  I got
turned onto him bc he was in a Ginsberg poem and a Clash song.
I hope to learn a lot, discuss a lot, and get reccomendations.
If any of you would like to reccomend fiction writers- PLEASE do.  Or poets,
certain anthologies etc etc

It's nice to say hello!
Tanya

Hi. My name is Jennifer.. I am new to the list.  I am wondering if
anyone knows of any authors who write about South American History
(ealier the date the better) in a ficitonal manner.  I am very
interested in South American History.. But not too into history books.
I like it to feel like I am reading a very good novel.
   One of my fav. authors is Garcia Marquez. I also enjoy Allende. But
I was hoping to find some less popular authors.. I don't mind having
to search for something.. if it promises to be good.  :)

   I am very interested in something factual about Simon Bolivar.   If
anyone has any leads.. please let me know.. via the newsletter or my
personal email..
Eyes_of_a_Blue_Dog@... or W0manChild@...
(The "0" in W0man is a zero.. ) Thank you Jennifer




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