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Re: Attention Modenristas (commercial message)   Message List  
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Re: Attention Modernistas

> You explained how to get what you want not what I want. <snip> There's a
big difference between not wanting to build kits and not being able to build
kits, <snip>
>....dave

Hi....dave: You make a good point for sure. I assumed (in error it would
appear) that a kit would be satisfactory for a Modernista who seriously wanted
something new and modern. Apparently, I was wrong with that assumption.

> Correct me if I'm wrong but I seem to recall a moderately prominent S scaler
occasionally publicly begging for folks to assemble his stash of kits for him?

I would characterize my efforts a bit differently. Let's say I offered swapping
opportunities to those who wanted some no-longer-produced scarce item in
exchange for building some kits. They got something unavailable in the open
market and rather rare. I got some kits assembled. A fair and mutually
agreeable swap for both parties. Not at all like a beggar on the street corner
looking for a handout. By the way, my unbuilt kit stash is now down to four
kits.

> Someone made a good point about building modern cars for the flyer crowd and
letting them provide the volume necessary for production,

I agree that Flyer-crowd involvement is a good strategy if RTR is the only thing
you will consider. If, however, you wanted a particular modern model and
wanted it in the next year or two, then a custom kit is much more likely to
actually produce results. Waiting around for someone else to make what you want
RTR might take a v--e--r--y long time. I did assume that building a kit was
preferable to waiting ten or more years for something strongly desired. My
error.....sorry.

I guess both approaches are valid -- RTR for those who do not like to build kits
and custom manufacturer for those who view kits as an enjoyable pastime and want
to get on with it instead of waiting......and waiting......and......

Cheers...Ed L.




Tue Jul 14, 2009 7:03 pm

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... From: ed_loizeaux ... said ... - - - - - - - - - - - Modernista Gents.......Here is your chance for something new and modern. ... We have been aware for a...
Tom Hawley
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Jul 13, 2009
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... Isn't there already a lot of 1:64 trucks and trailers made? IIRC there's a pretty good selection on ebay but in the cars and trucks category, not the S...
ctxmf74
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Jul 13, 2009
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My complaint is that there arenıt enough 1930ıs~1950ıs tractors/trailers available. I see bunches of modern TTıs in brick and mortar stores and online. Roy...
Roy Inman
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Jul 13, 2009
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I agree - and utility trucks and buses too. Jeff Madden To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com From: rinphoto@... Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:22:38 -0500 Subject:...
Jeffrey Madden
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... Barrand Pazan 10770 Brookview Dr. Zeeland, Mich. 1 616 748 9345 Kits for 40's + 50's models, Mack, Brockway KW, GMC Nice metal kits Stan...
trainsjeep88
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Jul 13, 2009
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... Maybe that's where the demand is? Now if we can get these modern truckers interested in modern S scale trains we'll have something....dave...
ctxmf74
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Jul 13, 2009
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... Howdy Tom...(and other Modernistas)... My earlier message about "grabbing the gold ring" refers to the fact that some manufacturers will make anything you...
ed_loizeaux
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Jul 13, 2009
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Dear Ed, Ken started to lobby me in 1977 at the San Jose convention (you were the chairman, so I guess you had a part too!). It only took me two businesses...
Don Thompson
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Jul 14, 2009
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Maybe Ed meant this, not sure, so just to be clear... True, all the brass projects I've done were limited run to a specific quantity, but if anyone thinks...
raisinone
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Jul 14, 2009
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... Jim... My thoughts are the manufacturer in Korea had an order for a specific model and a specific quantity. He made exactly what you wanted. You did not...
ed_loizeaux
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Jul 14, 2009
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... Ed, I'm curious as to your definition of a "modernista". The PS-1 50' boxcars were built from 1954-1960 according to this Ed Hawkin's table from the Steam...
Billy Click
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Jul 14, 2009
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... Is there a significant difference between this proposed model and the already numerous PRS 50 foot boxcars?...dave...
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... Hi Billy... A "modernista" is someone who complains there is not enough modern stuff being made in S scale. My suggestion to modernistas is that they...
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The on-line poll being conducted by the Model Railroad Hobbyist magazine has broken down the era preferred to model into decades in the following way: Pre-1900...
Roy Hoffman
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Jul 14, 2009
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Ed, get serious these people don't stick togather enough to get anything done. They depend on others with hopes someone makes what they want. Thanks Bert To:...
Bert Cutler
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Jul 14, 2009
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... Y'know Bert, you have a large kernal of truth there. Even after explaining how to obtain exactly what you want, one fellow still thinks it is better to do...
ed_loizeaux
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Jul 14, 2009
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... Even after explaining how to obtain exactly what you want, one fellow still thinks it is better to do nothing and wait until a hobby shop importer decides...
ctxmf74
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... Hi....dave: You make a good point for sure. I assumed (in error it would appear) that a kit would be satisfactory for a Modernista who seriously wanted...
ed_loizeaux
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Jul 14, 2009
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... I did assume that building a kit was preferable to waiting ten or more years for something strongly desired. My error.....sorry. ... Hi Ed, You made a...
ctxmf74
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Hi Dave; PS-1s have distinctive Pullman Standard manufactured ends and roof, as well as welded sides. The roof panel sections look more like bow ties than...
Pieter Roos
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... Pieter - I would love to see both, good choices! I built one of the WC(?) 50' stick wood kits years ago and have always wished for more. At DPV we drag...
raisinone
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Jul 15, 2009
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There is a membership of 99 persons listed in the SSTOT group. It seems to me that one of the long time members of this group with knowledge of how things work...
Edward Davis
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Jul 14, 2009
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... Hi Ed...Always glad to hear from another Ed -- even if we already know each other. My only comment is to mention that the folks who do not want to build a...
ed_loizeaux
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Jul 15, 2009
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Trading and custom building is common place here in the Houston area. A couple of out-of-work NMRA master modelers are actually under contract to build...
Bob Werre
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Jul 15, 2009
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... Hi Bob, Did you point out to him the obvious advantage of switching to S scale before he gets any further along? ....dave...
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Of course, nobody would DARE mention scratch-building. ... From: ed_loizeaux To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 12:03 PM Subject:...
John Picur
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I will. A few years ago, there was an article on scratchbuilding centrebeam cars by the gent who used to live on the West Coast around Seattle. (Ernie Horr?)....
Alex Binkley
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Jul 15, 2009
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... Tom, Got a couple of questions for you. 1) Why the lack of interest, particular in transition-era intermodal? 2) If a manufacturer were not to hop and skip...
Brian Chapman
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