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Miracle Castings Inc.
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Jan 24, 1999 9:18 pm
Hi All! The relationships between industrial operations and railways have always fascinated me, so I'm looking forward to the content of this list. My name is...
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lawrence jackman
ljack70117@xxxxxxxxx....
Jan 24, 1999 9:38 pm
how do I find the casting list? I looked but could not find it Larry...
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Mike_Maurigi@xxx.xxxx
Jan 25, 1999 2:13 pm
Hello: I am new to the list and would like to ask for guidance on modeling a small refinery. I'd like to know what type of rolling stock goes in and out of a...
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Peter Bowers
pbeservx@xxxxxx.xxxx
Jan 25, 1999 11:44 pm
... Mike, Depending on the era you would see different inbound traffic to refineries. Flat cars with machinery, fractionating towers, flat cars and gondolas of...
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George Willard
willardga@xxxx.xxxx
Jan 25, 1999 8:14 pm
Yes, and also wood pallets to put under the goods that are shipped in boxcars....
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Peter Bowers
pbeservx@xxxxxx.xxxx
Jan 26, 1999 1:16 am
This originally was posted on Layout Design SIG' list. From: Don Florwick <florwick@...> In the early 90's Dan Holbrook did an excellent article in...
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Peter Bowers
pbeservx@xxxxxx.xxxx
Jan 26, 1999 1:21 am
... We had a lot of smaller mills around our area served by rail and the main supply elevator was in Owen Sound. Grain doors were brought back in cars being...
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Mark William Hemphill
mhemph1@xxx.xxxx
Jan 26, 1999 1:05 am
... I can add something, though I caution you that my response is based on my admittedly limited knowledge of petroleum refining, marketing, and transportation...
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lawrence jackman
ljack70117@xxxxxxxxx....
Jan 26, 1999 1:21 am
All the wood grain doors I ever saw did not have to "be built". They were nothing more than flat boards 9 2X12s nailed one above each until the door way was ...
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Peter Bowers
pbeservx@xxxxxx.xxxx
Jan 26, 1999 5:36 am
Canadian National and Canadian Pacific had modulized grain doors built out of double thickness boards. Three modules filled a doorway. The double thickness...
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Bruce R. Brantner, Sr.
brantner@xxxxxxx.xxxx
Jan 26, 1999 3:50 am
... Martin Loftin in his article on "Grain Doors For Box Cars" in Railmodel Journal, November 1990, explains how the doors were made. A paper liner was used...
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Clasen Family
clasen@xxxxxxx.xxxx
Jan 26, 1999 2:03 am
I have a numerous collection of Steel Coil Cars. For my waybill system I need to load these cars somewhere. My route is the Wisconsin Central in Wisconsin,...
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Mark William Hemphill
mhemph1@xxx.xxxx
Jan 26, 1999 2:07 am
From my admittedly naive perspective, the various posts on this subject are tending to conflate all railroads, all locations, and all times, when it is clear...
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Peter Bowers
pbeservx@xxxxxx.xxxx
Jan 26, 1999 7:02 am
... I would think it was about the early 60's when the reinforced cardboard grain doors replaced the wooden grain doors on CNR and CPR. ... Apparently there...
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Peter Bowers
pbeservx@xxxxxx.xxxx
Jan 26, 1999 7:43 am
Well we have been going for just over 24 hours and we now have 101 subscribers. Thank you fou you fabulous interest in the group. I hope we can provide all...
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SD9E@xxx.xxx
Jan 26, 1999 3:29 am
Many, many grain doors were only used once as they were, ah, lost at the unloading point. I remember seeing stock pens on employee's farms made out of the...
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Peter Bowers
pbeservx@xxxxxx.xxxx
Jan 26, 1999 8:15 am
... I doubt if grain door built that way were recycled either. When the cardboard doors were introduced, a board was put at the bottom the middle(I think??)...
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Hudson Leighton
hudsonl@xxxxxxxx.xxxx
Jan 26, 1999 4:17 am
... Paper doors also found "other" uses, they were fairly water proof so they made good patches for roofs and other such stuff. Also very good for throwing on...
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Peter Bowers
pbeservx@xxxxxx.xxxx
Jan 26, 1999 9:32 am
The Ry-ops-industrialSIG Bookmarks has been updated to give subscribers access to the operations SIG and the Railway Industries SIG. While the list is not...
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Jim Hediger
jhediger@...
Jan 27, 1999 11:21 am
During the 1960s, the Wabash had a lot of boxcars that were outfitted with cardboard grain doors reinforced with horizontal steel strapping. These doors were...
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Mike_Maurigi@xxx.xxxx
Jan 26, 1999 1:37 pm
Thanks to Peter Bowers and Mark Hemphill for the explanation of refinery traffic. FYI, the era that I'm modeling is recent. 1980's to present. If knowing...
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jhediger@xxxxx.xxxxxx...
jhediger@xxxxx.xxxxxx...
Jan 26, 1999 1:37 pm
... First off, WC hauls a fair amount of these empty coil steel cars north enroute to the Algoma Steel plant (on the Algoma Central) at Saulte Ste, Marie, Ont....
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Miracle Castings Inc.
miracle-castings@xx.x...
Jan 26, 1999 3:50 pm
... This is still a good reason to stand back from a moving train! I've seen strapping from lumber cars flapping in the breeze on several occasions. If you...
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Mark William Hemphill
mhemph1@xxx.xxxx
Jan 26, 1999 4:01 pm
... Manufacturers of tinplate, appliances, and office furniture, as well as automotibiles, use cold-rolled steel, which may or may not be coiled, because they...
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jhediger@xxxxx.xxxxxx...
jhediger@xxxxx.xxxxxx...
Jan 26, 1999 4:01 pm
I heartily agree with all of Mark Hemphill's comments about shipping coil steel. It's a fascinating business with an amazing variety of processes and...
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Dennis Rockwell
dennis@xxx.xxxx
Jan 26, 1999 6:13 pm
... Thanks, Jim! Does anybody know offhand when coil steel cars were implemented? I believe that coil steel was shipped in gons before then; was there any...
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lawrence jackman
ljack70117@xxxxxxxxx....
Jan 26, 1999 6:16 pm
Have you ever seen what happens when a car comes off the track? The best place to be watching a train moving over 10 mph is at least a quarter mille away. ...
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jhediger@xxxxx.xxxxxx...
jhediger@xxxxx.xxxxxx...
Jan 26, 1999 6:16 pm
... _____________________________________ Here's a copy of some information I recently put together: Until the mid-1950s, most coil steel was shipped in open...