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Recently, a friend shared a link with me via Facebook on signal progressions
that was written by a locomotive engineer. Although it's geared toward the
Northeast Operating Rules Advisory Committee (NORAC) signal rules used in the
northeastern US, its underlying lessons can be applied to other rulebooks such
as GCOR and layout design and operation.
 
If you think about it, it is important to keep in mind when not only designing
your layout, but also operating it, which is why I've crossposted to both the
LDSIG and the OpSIG Yahoo Groups, in addition to TrainLife.com and
Trainboard.com.
 
The link is at http://www.deltareum.com/signal_progressions.htm.
 
Dieter Zakas
Limited Clear, NJ

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Recently, a friend shared a link with me via Facebook on signal progressions that was written by a locomotive engineer. Although it's geared toward the...
Dieter Zakas
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Feb 14, 2012
4:03 pm

... I always get nervous when people start making up signal and operating system terms (slower downers, absolute stop, hard meet, etc). A lot of the confusion...
David
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Feb 15, 2012
2:44 pm

David: Loosen up and get a life! I use the rules everyday as a locomotive engineer and we have made up names for most of the signal indications. We don't...
Dave Bayless
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Feb 15, 2012
6:44 pm

... I'm pretty loose and already have a life, so I'm good there. Thanks for providing an example that exactly proves the point I was making. You call signals,...
David
dehusman Offline Send Email
Feb 16, 2012
1:30 am

Dave H's signal calls according to the book do mean that everyone understands them, but aren't Dave B's calls the most prototypical way of modeling what...
Don Mitchell
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Feb 16, 2012
4:54 am

Signal progressions really depend on two things, what speed are the trains operating on a clear signal and what spped do you want them to be at the most...
David
dehusman Offline Send Email
Feb 16, 2012
1:01 pm

Please note that in the following I'm in the 50's-60's using a 1956 book of rules. Doesn't the desired length of signal blocks play a role in this. If your...
Mal
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Feb 17, 2012
6:20 pm

Hello all, First - I'm not a professional railroader, and have only twice in my life even stepped into the cab of a locomotive. But - I think Dieter deserves a...
chucklee27 Offline Send Email Feb 16, 2012
4:23 pm

... While I know I will get a ton of ca-ca for this response, the devil in me makes me HAVE to respond. There is no such thing as "absolute stop". The is a...
David
dehusman Offline Send Email
Feb 16, 2012
5:04 pm

... All red can also be "Stop and Proceed" rather than "Stop" depending on the signal configuration. Chris vanderHeide Sarnia, ON...
cv_acr Offline Send Email Feb 16, 2012
8:46 pm

Or a red signal can be a proceed at restricted speed without stopping if it has a G plate. Just goes to show that there can be many meanings for a particular...
Dennis Drury
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Feb 16, 2012
8:51 pm

... Actually modern CP and CN rules also allow for a yellow "R" plate on an intermediate signal that turns red into "Restricting". A bit similar but not...
cv_acr Offline Send Email Feb 16, 2012
9:02 pm

... Almost forgot one more. ;-) In the old Canadian UCOR there was a "Station Protection Signal" - when occompanied by a "SPS" plate, the signal meant "Stop...
cv_acr Offline Send Email Feb 16, 2012
9:05 pm

Hello Dave, all, See? I shouldda stopped with "exhausted the sum total of my railroad signal knowledge"! 8-) Regards Chuck Lee...
chucklee27 Offline Send Email Feb 17, 2012
3:37 pm

... I apologize for picking on you, but it just fit in so well with the whole "non-rule book" names for signals thing. 8-) A lot of people (including real...
David
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Feb 17, 2012
5:14 pm

Chuck, While I wish I could claim credit for the website to which I provided its link, in reality it's not my creation. It was put together by someone else,...
Dieter Zakas
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Feb 17, 2012
3:01 pm

Had I been an inspector riding in the cab, I might have taken an exception to the jargon that differed from the aspects as outlined in the rule book. My...
Jeffrey
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Feb 17, 2012
3:16 am

Hello Dieter, Sadly, I get a not found error when using this link. Regards Chuck Lee...
chucklee27 Offline Send Email Feb 15, 2012
3:27 pm

Chuck, Delete the period at the end of the link. Steve Studley Bloomington, IN  47404 ... From: "chucklee27" <chucklee27@...> To:...
sastudley@...
sastudley Offline Send Email
Feb 15, 2012
3:41 pm

Hello Steve, all, Right you are. I should have seen that! BTW - If you go to http://www.deltareum.com/ you will find yourself at the root of a _lot_ of...
chucklee27 Offline Send Email Feb 16, 2012
5:42 pm

Can I post those in my Special instructions Dave B.? (LOL~!!) BTW Dave H. Do you ever check your mail associated with your yahoo acct.? i sent you a...
Jon C
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Feb 15, 2012
6:52 pm

Hi Jon: Yes you may post those in your special instructions. I would be honored.  And I will check for that email when I get home.  BTW we special names for...
Davebayl
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Feb 16, 2012
12:56 am

Dave, Note the email not being answered was directed at Dave H. (Husman) see below Jon C. SP Inyo Sub. Beaumont Ind. Term. Acid, Trona, Copper, Tungsten,...
Jon C
jcure1 Offline Send Email
Feb 16, 2012
1:05 am

... Sorry, busy last couple of weeks. A: Surplus or to or from storage. Dave H....
David
dehusman Offline Send Email
Feb 16, 2012
2:20 pm

David H: Not loose enough. Boreing! Dabe B. Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S™ II Skyrocket™, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone. ... Subject: [Ops-Ind] Re: Wayside...
Davebayl
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Feb 16, 2012
1:39 am

... Maybe. If you are looking for a colorful story to read, definitely. If you are trying to figure out what color LED's to buy to install in your signals,...
David
dehusman Offline Send Email
Feb 16, 2012
1:48 pm

Sorry Dieter, but the link is not working. Jeff Leaman...
Jeffrey
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Feb 16, 2012
4:17 am

Sorry Dieter, but the link is not working. ... Remove period. Dieter put a period at the end. :-( http://www.deltareum.com/signal_progressions.htm That...
Roger Traviss
rogertra Offline Send Email
Feb 16, 2012
4:49 am

... "flashers". ... Welcome to the Internet. On topic, somebody years back told me about when he went from (I think) CNW to WC. Turns out the hand signal for...
Michael Mornard
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Feb 16, 2012
1:38 pm
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