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#33 From: "John" <jkaler48@...>
Date: Sun Jan 4, 2009 8:00 pm
Subject: New products available & admin notes
jkaler48
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SOTW now carries the Keltica line of Shield bosses
as well as the Lego V scutum blank
Aramentaria (UK) now has the DSC made XX legion pattern scutum and the
two DSC auxillia shield patterns
Deeppeka MAY possibly make some updates to their XIIII legion pattern
scutum.

Posts may be now moderated due to spammers invading Yahoo groups.
Anyone having shield product suggestions or improvements is welcome to
post them here and I will make sure that they are passed on to the
manufacturers.
John

#34 From: "John" <jkaler48@...>
Date: Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:40 pm
Subject: Anyone know why Roman Army Talk website is down?
jkaler48
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#35 From: Lee Holeva <holeva6433@...>
Date: Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:48 pm
Subject: Re: Anyone know why Roman Army Talk website is down?
neuralm
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I have no idea.  Maybe the hosting bill did not get paid?

Lee

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#36 From: rustyatrpg@...
Date: Mon Jan 12, 2009 7:02 pm
Subject: Re: Anyone know why Roman Army Talk website is down?
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roman army yahoo group will have details
 

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Email: info@...  or rustyatrpg@... www.Skype.com:
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In a message dated 1/12/2009 6:41:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jkaler48@... writes:

ANyone





#37 From: "Matt" <mlanteigne@...>
Date: Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:08 am
Subject: Re: Anyone know why Roman Army Talk website is down?
tiberius_lan...
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I don't know either...I tried emailing jasper through his
romanarmy.com account, but I haven't gotten a reply yet. Does anyone
have his other email address?

Given the message it almost seems like a financial issue, though I
can't see how RAT would be behind in paying...

#38 From: David Wills <dwills777@...>
Date: Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:44 am
Subject: Re: Anyone know why Roman Army Talk website is down?
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I probably put in one too many dumb jokes.  Blame me, it's probably my fault.
DemTex

Saepe veritas est dura.
---M. Demetrius Abicio

--- On Mon, 1/12/09, rustyatrpg@... <rustyatrpg@...> wrote:

From: rustyatrpg@... <rustyatrpg@...>
Subject: Re: [Romanshield] Anyone know why Roman Army Talk website is down?
To: Romanshield@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, January 12, 2009, 6:02 PM

roman army yahoo group will have details
 

Soul of the Warrior LLC
104 Hunters Wood Drive, Summerville, SC 29485 USA
Order Line: (843) 475-0095   Message Line: (843) 437-5587  Fax: (843) 873-6601
Email: info@soulofthewarri or.com  or rustyatrpg@aol. com www.Skype.com:
Soulofthewarriorsho p or Soulofthewarrior

Our Legion:   www.LEGVI.com  
Our Event:   www.CastraRomana. com

 
The Sword is the Soul of the Warrior

 
In a message dated 1/12/2009 6:41:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jkaler48@yahoo. com writes:
ANyone






#39 From: "David" <dwills777@...>
Date: Thu Jan 15, 2009 2:11 am
Subject: Building a Scutum
dwills777
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Anybody interested in a step by step on making a scutum using modern,
easily available materials?  (regular plywood, Tite Bond carpenter's
glue, normal wood fillers, etc.)

I've started just such a series, with pictures and text.  Lemme know.
This seems a logical place to put one, doesn't it?

M. Demetrius

#40 From: Kaler john <jkaler48@...>
Date: Thu Jan 15, 2009 2:17 am
Subject: Re: Building a Scutum
jkaler48
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YES that would be a welcome addition to the photo section!
 
John Kaler
MSG, USA
Retired
Member Legio V (Tenn, USA)
http://web.utk.edu/~cohprima/
Moderator of these Yahoo groups
Primarily for storage of photos,files&links :
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Romanshield/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Pugio/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Romangear/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RomanArtilley/



From: David <dwills777@...>
To: Romanshield@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 8:11:41 PM
Subject: [Romanshield] Building a Scutum

Anybody interested in a step by step on making a scutum using modern,
easily available materials? (regular plywood, Tite Bond carpenter's
glue, normal wood fillers, etc.)

I've started just such a series, with pictures and text. Lemme know.
This seems a logical place to put one, doesn't it?

M. Demetrius



#41 From: David Wills <dwills777@...>
Date: Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:32 am
Subject: Re: Building a Scutum
dwills777
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OK, I'll start putting time up in a folder called "Modern Scutum Making".  How's that?

I'm making a Republic/Principate oval, curved one, about 32" x 47", no spine, round steel boss.  Might add a spine later, if it seems like a good idea.  But the spine will stop at the flange of the boss, as some of them did.  It seems like that was just an afterthought, or a hat tip to the past "Barleycorn" and "Batwing" bosses.

M. Demetrius

Saepe veritas est dura.
---M. Demetrius Abicio

--- On Wed, 1/14/09, Kaler john <jkaler48@...> wrote:

From: Kaler john <jkaler48@...>
Subject: Re: [Romanshield] Building a Scutum
To: Romanshield@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2009, 8:17 PM

YES that would be a welcome addition to the photo section!
 
John Kaler
MSG, USA
Retired
Member Legio V (Tenn, USA)
http://web.utk. edu/~cohprima/
Moderator of these Yahoo groups
Primarily for storage of photos,files&links :
http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/Romanshiel d/
http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/Pugio/
http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/Romangear/
http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/RomanArtil ley/



From: David <dwills777@yahoo. com>
To: Romanshield@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 8:11:41 PM
Subject: [Romanshield] Building a Scutum

Anybody interested in a step by step on making a scutum using modern,
easily available materials? (regular plywood, Tite Bond carpenter's
glue, normal wood fillers, etc.)

I've started just such a series, with pictures and text. Lemme know.
This seems a logical place to put one, doesn't it?

M. Demetrius




#42 From: Kaler john <jkaler48@...>
Date: Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:54 am
Subject: Re: Building a Scutum
jkaler48
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That would be a good one for AD 9 at Lafe I think and an excellent addition to the photo section.
 
John Kaler
MSG, USA
Retired
Member Legio V (Tenn, USA)
http://web.utk.edu/~cohprima/
Moderator of these Yahoo groups
Primarily for storage of photos,files&links :
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Romanshield/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Pugio/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Romangear/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RomanArtilley/



From: David Wills <dwills777@...>
To: Romanshield@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 9:32:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Romanshield] Building a Scutum

OK, I'll start putting time up in a folder called "Modern Scutum Making".  How's that?

I'm making a Republic/Principate oval, curved one, about 32" x 47", no spine, round steel boss.  Might add a spine later, if it seems like a good idea.  But the spine will stop at the flange of the boss, as some of them did.  It seems like that was just an afterthought, or a hat tip to the past "Barleycorn" and "Batwing" bosses.

M. Demetrius

Saepe veritas est dura.
---M. Demetrius Abicio

--- On Wed, 1/14/09, Kaler john <jkaler48@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Kaler john <jkaler48@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [Romanshield] Building a Scutum
To: Romanshield@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2009, 8:17 PM

YES that would be a welcome addition to the photo section!
 
John Kaler
MSG, USA
Retired
Member Legio V (Tenn, USA)
http://web.utk. edu/~cohprima/
Moderator of these Yahoo groups
Primarily for storage of photos,files&links :
http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/Romanshiel d/
http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/Pugio/
http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/Romangear/
http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/RomanArtil ley/



From: David <dwills777@yahoo. com>
To: Romanshield@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 8:11:41 PM
Subject: [Romanshield] Building a Scutum

Anybody interested in a step by step on making a scutum using modern,
easily available materials? (regular plywood, Tite Bond carpenter's
glue, normal wood fillers, etc.)

I've started just such a series, with pictures and text. Lemme know.
This seems a logical place to put one, doesn't it?

M. Demetrius





#43 From: David Wills <dwills777@...>
Date: Thu Jan 15, 2009 4:46 am
Subject: Re: Building a Scutum
dwills777
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It probably would be.  I can't go this year, though.  Maybe 2011.
M. Demetrius

Saepe veritas est dura.
---M. Demetrius Abicio

--- On Wed, 1/14/09, Kaler john <jkaler48@...> wrote:

From: Kaler john <jkaler48@...>
Subject: Re: [Romanshield] Building a Scutum
To: Romanshield@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2009, 9:54 PM

That would be a good one for AD 9 at Lafe I think and an excellent addition to the photo section.
 
John Kaler
MSG, USA
Retired
Member Legio V (Tenn, USA)
http://web.utk. edu/~cohprima/
Moderator of these Yahoo groups
Primarily for storage of photos,files&links :
http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/Romanshiel d/
http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/Pugio/
http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/Romangear/
http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/RomanArtil ley/



From: David Wills <dwills777@yahoo. com>
To: Romanshield@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 9:32:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Romanshield] Building a Scutum

OK, I'll start putting time up in a folder called "Modern Scutum Making".  How's that?

I'm making a Republic/Principate oval, curved one, about 32" x 47", no spine, round steel boss.  Might add a spine later, if it seems like a good idea.  But the spine will stop at the flange of the boss, as some of them did.  It seems like that was just an afterthought, or a hat tip to the past "Barleycorn" and "Batwing" bosses.

M. Demetrius

Saepe veritas est dura.
---M. Demetrius Abicio

--- On Wed, 1/14/09, Kaler john <jkaler48@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Kaler john <jkaler48@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [Romanshield] Building a Scutum
To: Romanshield@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2009, 8:17 PM

YES that would be a welcome addition to the photo section!
 
John Kaler
MSG, USA
Retired
Member Legio V (Tenn, USA)
http://web.utk. edu/~cohprima/
Moderator of these Yahoo groups
Primarily for storage of photos,files&links :
http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/Romanshiel d/
http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/Pugio/
http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/Romangear/
http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/RomanArtil ley/



From: David <dwills777@yahoo. com>
To: Romanshield@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 8:11:41 PM
Subject: [Romanshield] Building a Scutum

Anybody interested in a step by step on making a scutum using modern,
easily available materials? (regular plywood, Tite Bond carpenter's
glue, normal wood fillers, etc.)

I've started just such a series, with pictures and text. Lemme know.
This seems a logical place to put one, doesn't it?

M. Demetrius






#44 From: "Mr Mark" <ancient1s@...>
Date: Thu Jan 15, 2009 2:04 pm
Subject: RE: Building a Scutum
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That would be very useful. Please send me the details or direct me to a website.

 

Regards

Crassvs (AKA Mark Kelly)
 


From: Romanshield@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Romanshield@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David
Sent: Thursday, 15 January 2009 1:12 PM
To: Romanshield@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Romanshield] Building a Scutum

 

Anybody interested in a step by step on making a scutum using modern,
easily available materials? (regular plywood, Tite Bond carpenter's
glue, normal wood fillers, etc.)

I've started just such a series, with pictures and text. Lemme know.
This seems a logical place to put one, doesn't it?

M. Demetrius


#45 From: David Wills <dwills777@...>
Date: Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:18 pm
Subject: RE: Building a Scutum
dwills777
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On this group, in the folder called "Modern Scutum Making" are photos with captions, Right now it concerns an oval Republican scutum, but the principles and steps apply to any.  I'm starting a regular rectangular scutum in a couple of days, and will splice in the steps I use to bend the plywood then.

Questions?  email me and I'll try to answer.

M. Dem

Saepe veritas est dura.
---M. Demetrius Abicio

--- On Thu, 1/15/09, Mr Mark <ancient1s@...> wrote:

From: Mr Mark <ancient1s@...>
Subject: RE: [Romanshield] Building a Scutum
To: Romanshield@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 8:04 AM

That would be very useful. Please send me the details or direct me to a website.

 

Regards

Crassvs (AKA Mark Kelly)
 


From: Romanshield@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:Romanshield @yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of David
Sent: Thursday, 15 January 2009 1:12 PM
To: Romanshield@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [Romanshield] Building a Scutum

 

Anybody interested in a step by step on making a scutum using modern,
easily available materials? (regular plywood, Tite Bond carpenter's
glue, normal wood fillers, etc.)

I've started just such a series, with pictures and text. Lemme know.
This seems a logical place to put one, doesn't it?

M. Demetrius



#46 From: "David" <dwills777@...>
Date: Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:41 pm
Subject: Re: Building a Scutum
dwills777
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A couple more pictures added.
D

--- In Romanshield@yahoogroups.com, David Wills <dwills777@...> wrote:
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> On this group, in the folder called "Modern Scutum Making" are
photos with captions, Right now it concerns an oval Republican scutum,
but the principles and steps apply to any.  I'm starting a regular
rectangular scutum in a couple of days, and will splice in the steps I
use to bend the plywood then.
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> Questions?  email me and I'll try to answer.
>
> M. Dem
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> Saepe veritas est dura.
>
>         ---M. Demetrius Abicio
>
> --- On Thu, 1/15/09, Mr Mark <ancient1s@...> wrote:
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> From: Mr Mark <ancient1s@...>
> Subject: RE: [Romanshield] Building a Scutum
> To: Romanshield@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 8:04 AM
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> Romanshield@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:Romanshield @yahoogroups. com]
On Behalf Of David
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#47 From: "David" <dwills777@...>
Date: Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:21 pm
Subject: Repub shield photo added
dwills777
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I got the design painted on the Republic shield I'm making.

Only the edging and attaching the boss remain, plus building a handle
of the appropriate height from the shield to make proper balance.
Putting the curved metal on top and bottom has proven to be much more
difficult than I'd envisioned.  The problem is the metal has to curve
along two axes, seen from the front, and seen from above.  I started
with metal that was much too thick, and I can't get it done that way.
  So thinner metal has to be cut.  I think I'll use steel, since I can
heat and bend it more easily than copper alloys.  Can't put the hot
metal next to the wood, though.

Anybody have any good ideas as to how to go about the shaping?  I can
attach it easily enough.

#48 From: holeva6433@...
Date: Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:04 pm
Subject: Re: Repub shield photo added
neuralm
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Salve

 

Florentius describes the tooling needed to make curved metal scutum edging:

 

http://www.florentius.com/scutumedging.htm

 

T. Licinius Neuraleanus


----- Original Message -----
From: "David" <dwills777@...>
To: Romanshield@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 1:21:26 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [Romanshield] Repub shield photo added

I got the design painted on the Republic shield I'm making.  

Only the edging and attaching the boss remain, plus building a handle
of the appropriate height from the shield to make proper balance.
Putting the curved metal on top and bottom has proven to be much more
difficult than I'd envisioned.  The problem is the metal has to curve
along two axes, seen from the front, and seen from above.  I started
with metal that was much too thick, and I can't get it done that way.
 So thinner metal has to be cut.  I think I'll use steel, since I can
heat and bend it more easily than copper alloys.  Can't put the hot
metal next to the wood, though.

Anybody have any good ideas as to how to go about the shaping?  I can
attach it easily enough.


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#49 From: David Wills <dwills777@...>
Date: Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:57 pm
Subject: Re: Repub shield photo added
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Thanks, I've read that page and it's very helpful, but that is designed for curving in ONE direction (like a flat-topped scutum, for example).  But when the curved surface also curves in an oval, everything is much more complicated and difficult.  I'm trying again with thinner metal, and will see what happens then.  How did the Ancients do it? 

No idea.

D



Saepe veritas est dura.
---M. Demetrius Abicio

--- On Thu, 1/29/09, holeva6433@... <holeva6433@...> wrote:

From: holeva6433@... <holeva6433@...>
Subject: Re: [Romanshield] Repub shield photo added
To: Romanshield@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 1:04 PM

Salve

 

Florentius describes the tooling needed to make curved metal scutum edging:

 

http://www.florenti us.com/scutumedg ing.htm

 

T. Licinius Neuraleanus


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To: Romanshield@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 1:21:26 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [Romanshield] Repub shield photo added

I got the design painted on the Republic shield I'm making.  

Only the edging and attaching the boss remain, plus building a handle
of the appropriate height from the shield to make proper balance.
Putting the curved metal on top and bottom has proven to be much more
difficult than I'd envisioned.  The problem is the metal has to curve
along two axes, seen from the front, and seen from above.  I started
with metal that was much too thick, and I can't get it done that way.
 So thinner metal has to be cut.  I think I'll use steel, since I can
heat and bend it more easily than copper alloys.  Can't put the hot
metal next to the wood, though.

Anybody have any good ideas as to how to go about the shaping?  I can
attach it easily enough.


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#50 From: "David" <dwills777@...>
Date: Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:09 pm
Subject: Parma boss made
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I dished out a boss for the parma in Republic Shield folder.  Copper
alloy, made from a circular copper plate from a second hand store.  I
didn't know how much the metal would take as far as bending outward,
so I didn't press it very far.  Odds are, I could have made the boss
dish deeper, but it didn't need it to be, so I stopped.  I guess
that's better than finding out I hit it one too many times, and made a
tear in the metal.

Sure is a heckuva lot easier to work with this metal than steel!

#51 From: "John" <jkaler48@...>
Date: Sun Feb 1, 2009 12:52 am
Subject: UFO parma boss
jkaler48
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Please toss into the air for some blue sky background and post the
photo!  20 years from now it will appear on a UFO website as the real
thing!

#52 From: David Wills <dwills777@...>
Date: Sun Feb 1, 2009 1:57 am
Subject: Re: UFO parma boss
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Believe me, I was tempted...and put the camera slightly out of focus, too.
 
Actually, my present thought is to trim off some of the flat flange, down to the first ring, flatten it, and use some stamping tools to add a little decorative design around the edge.  I've been told that the flange is too wide for a normal boss, and I tend to agree.  It came like that before I dished it out, so I left it.  But off it goes.  That will give me some metal I can practice the stamping/incising on without dealing with the final product.  Practice is good.  I have some different tools that might work, bumps, dents, dots, lines, all are known to have been used. 
 
A scene all around the edge of legions slaughtering a phalanx of barbarians, and cavalry running down some fleeing infantry would be good, with all the figures done in repousse.  But I don't have the first idea how to do that, so it ain't gonna happen.  Don't get your hopes up.  : )
 
Heh.
 
D

Saepe veritas est dura.
---M. Demetrius Abicio

--- On Sat, 1/31/09, John <jkaler48@...> wrote:

From: John <jkaler48@...>
Subject: [Romanshield] UFO parma boss
To: Romanshield@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, January 31, 2009, 6:52 PM

Please toss into the air for some blue sky background and post the
photo! 20 years from now it will appear on a UFO website as the real
thing!



#53 From: richard robinson <helmetwise@...>
Date: Sun Feb 1, 2009 9:23 am
Subject: Re: UFO parma boss
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the best advice i ever got was that it is only a matter of pushing up the overall shape so that you can punch it back down into the shapes that u want....if u follow my drift...
that and finding the legio xx tips page...if only we had net when i were young.....

--- On Sat, 31/1/09, David Wills <dwills777@...> wrote:

From: David Wills <dwills777@...>
Subject: Re: [Romanshield] UFO parma boss
To: Romanshield@yahoogroups.com
Received: Saturday, 31 January, 2009, 5:57 PM

Believe me, I was tempted...and put the camera slightly out of focus, too.
 
Actually, my present thought is to trim off some of the flat flange, down to the first ring, flatten it, and use some stamping tools to add a little decorative design around the edge.  I've been told that the flange is too wide for a normal boss, and I tend to agree.  It came like that before I dished it out, so I left it.  But off it goes.  That will give me some metal I can practice the stamping/incising on without dealing with the final product.  Practice is good.  I have some different tools that might work, bumps, dents, dots, lines, all are known to have been used. 
 
A scene all around the edge of legions slaughtering a phalanx of barbarians, and cavalry running down some fleeing infantry would be good, with all the figures done in repousse.  But I don't have the first idea how to do that, so it ain't gonna happen.  Don't get your hopes up.  : )
 
Heh.
 
D

Saepe veritas est dura.
---M. Demetrius Abicio

--- On Sat, 1/31/09, John <jkaler48@...> wrote:

From: John <jkaler48@...>
Subject: [Romanshield] UFO parma boss
To: Romanshield@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, January 31, 2009, 6:52 PM

Please toss into the air for some blue sky background and post the
photo! 20 years from now it will appear on a UFO website as the real
thing!




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#54 From: "jkaler48" <jkaler48@...>
Date: Fri Sep 18, 2009 8:41 pm
Subject: Notice to Zgroup members
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Posting this message so their is "activity" and Group is not delested by
Yahoo groups
John

#55 From: "john" <jkaler48@...>
Date: Wed Dec 9, 2009 2:34 am
Subject: Roman Training and How to site
jkaler48
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All are invited to sign up

to Ludus Militis now online. at www.ludusmilitis.org

It is to be a list of photo essays and documents to assist reenactors, living
historians, and other interested parties in the "how-to" of the hobby, mostly
Roman.

The first (of many to come) document that has been posted is TACTICA, a
well-researched and footnoted Roman drill manual. Come and see what you think.

#56 From: "grabenkater" <doktor_zaius@...>
Date: Thu Dec 17, 2009 1:51 pm
Subject: WTS 1st Century "Celt" Kit /Roman Aux. Kit
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Wool plaid tunic with fringed lower hem. Tunic is constructed from 100% wool in
nice earth tone colors. Size 42/44 chest.

Trousers based on Thorsberg style in 100% olive green wool. These do not have
the feet as the Thorsberg style 36-38 waist.

I will also include some wool leg wraps based on ones from Danish Bog finds.

Generic Celt Iron Age spear head with decorative notches cut in edge and triple
holes in blade. This was loosely based on several Contenental styles from the
Iron Age.

British Battersea style shield constructed from 1/2 inch plywood and covered in
heavy canvas and then painted with pale cream colored paint. The front bears the
image of a "Celtic" boar in red paint and small checkered decoration. The center
is a hand hammered boss from 16 gauge steel and hand made nails used to attach
the boss to the shield.

The only thing missing from this basic kit is a pair of shoes and a simple
leather belt. Would be perfect for someone interested in ancient re-enacting or
Living History.

275 USD plus shipping costs for the shield. I will take some photos this
weekend. If you are interested, please contact me directly at BrenMk1@...

#57 From: "john" <jkaler48@...>
Date: Thu Jan 7, 2010 10:56 pm
Subject: Lead in Roman reproduction cookware warning
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Reposted from RAT

Re: AH3982S Roman Situla (Tinned)

New postby Marcus Mummius » Tue 22 Dec 2009, 5:09

     caiustarquitius wrote:I recently received a letter by one of the major
German deepeeka dealers that the lead content of the tinning in these vessels is
so high that they are by the German health department not deemed appropriate for
cooking or even storing food in them, since the maximum lead allowance is
exceeded by more than 200 %
     Same for the patera and other tinned vessels, it seems. So, here“s this
information for you all, in case you intend to use any of these for cooking
etc., better leave it.



Yikes, that isn't nice. Thanks for the head's up. We'll have to start looking
for another source then.

We have been actively using these in the past... :cry:

Jef Pinceel
a.k.a.
Marcvs Mvmmivs Falco

#58 From: Lee Holeva <holeva6433@...>
Date: Thu Jan 7, 2010 11:33 pm
Subject: Re: Lead in Roman reproduction cookware warning
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Too late for us as well, as we have cooked food in these for a couple of
years now.  What is Germany's  lead standard compared to that of the USA?

Lee

john wrote:
> Reposted from RAT
>
> Re: AH3982S Roman Situla (Tinned)
>
> New postby Marcus Mummius » Tue 22 Dec 2009, 5:09
>
>     caiustarquitius wrote:I recently received a letter by one of the major
German deepeeka dealers that the lead content of the tinning in these vessels is
so high that they are by the German health department not deemed appropriate for
cooking or even storing food in them, since the maximum lead allowance is
exceeded by more than 200 %
>     Same for the patera and other tinned vessels, it seems. So, here“s this
information for you all, in case you intend to use any of these for cooking
etc., better leave it.
>
>
>
> Yikes, that isn't nice. Thanks for the head's up. We'll have to start looking
for another source then.
>
> We have been actively using these in the past... :cry:
>
> Jef Pinceel
> a.k.a.
> Marcvs Mvmmivs Falco
>
>
>
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>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>
>
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#59 From: Kaler john <jkaler48@...>
Date: Fri Jan 8, 2010 3:41 am
Subject: Re: Lead in Roman reproduction cookware warning
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Here is a link to consumer reports on available lead testing kits that you could use to test your cookware:
http://blogs.consumerreports.org/safety/2007/10/testing-the-lea.html
There are probably differences in lead content due to Deppeeka subcontracting and some items being from other manufactuers.
I would suggest each item be tested before using whatever the supposed source.
 
John Kaler
MSG, USA
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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RomanArtilley/



From: Lee Holeva <holeva6433@...>
To: Romanshield@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, January 7, 2010 5:33:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Romanshield] Lead in Roman reproduction cookware warning

 

Too late for us as well, as we have cooked food in these for a couple of
years now. What is Germany's lead standard compared to that of the USA?

Lee

john wrote:
> Reposted from RAT
>
> Re: AH3982S Roman Situla (Tinned)
>
> New postby Marcus Mummius Ā» Tue 22 Dec 2009, 5:09
>
> caiustarquitius wrote:I recently received a letter by one of the major German deepeeka dealers that the lead content of the tinning in these vessels is so high that they are by the German health department not deemed appropriate for cooking or even storing food in them, since the maximum lead allowance is exceeded by more than 200 %
> Same for the patera and other tinned vessels, it seems. So, here“s this information for you all, in case you intend to use any of these for cooking etc., better leave it.
>
>
>
> Yikes, that isn't nice. Thanks for the head's up. We'll have to start looking for another source then.
>
> We have been actively using these in the past... :cry:
>
> Jef Pinceel
> a.k.a.
> Marcvs Mvmmivs Falco
>
>
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>
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#60 From: "Dean" <satans_lackey@...>
Date: Fri Jan 8, 2010 4:54 pm
Subject: Re: Lead in Roman reproduction cookware warning
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All I have to say is... Really?!  You guys trusted cookware from India?  No one
should be eating off anything that comes from India ever.  Just look at the
Depeeka equipment, really there is hardly any Quality control (that the
reenactors aren't doing for deepeeka). Why did anyone think they would be doing
any better at cookware?  There is a world wide trend towards cheap(not to be
confused with inexpensive) and if you buy cheap expect to pay for it eventually.

It's like the sign in a blacksmith friends shop which reads "you want it bad? 
You'll get it bad.  Want it worse?  you'll get it worse."  Words to live by.

Dean

#61 From: "D. M. VARIANvS" <varianus@...>
Date: Sat Jan 9, 2010 5:05 am
Subject: Re: Re: Lead in Roman reproduction cookware warning
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except for the fact that Indian stuff is still WILDLY BETTER than the original stuff was. Our expectations are way too high--modern people want fuckin' Excalibur, not what they had then. And if it ain't from India, where? Like I'm gonna pay someone $330. for a brass pan.
Marsh

Dean wrote:
 

All I have to say is... Really?! You guys trusted cookware from India? No one should be eating off anything that comes from India ever. Just look at the Depeeka equipment, really there is hardly any Quality control (that the reenactors aren't doing for deepeeka). Why did anyone think they would be doing any better at cookware? There is a world wide trend towards cheap(not to be confused with inexpensive) and if you buy cheap expect to pay for it eventually.

It's like the sign in a blacksmith friends shop which reads "you want it bad? You'll get it bad. Want it worse? you'll get it worse." Words to live by.

Dean


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#62 From: "Adam MacDonald" <optio.scithi.ix@...>
Date: Sat Jan 9, 2010 5:22 am
Subject: Re: Re: Lead in Roman reproduction cookware warning
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...and until they really start to understand that reenactors actually WANT TO USE this stuff, and not put it on display in the den, they won't make them foodsafe from the get-go.
 
'Toxic levels of lead' doesn't sound 'wildly better' as far as use...
 
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Subject: Re: [Romanshield] Re: Lead in Roman reproduction cookware warning

except for the fact that Indian stuff is still WILDLY BETTER than the original stuff was. Our expectations are way too high--modern people want fuckin' Excalibur, not what they had then. And if it ain't from India, where? Like I'm gonna pay someone $330. for a brass pan.
Marsh

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