I thought it hilarious!  Although I do admire the cinematography,
given that it was filmed in 1925.

--- In Roman_History_Books@yahoogroups.com, Richard Dorsey
<drdadv@...> wrote:
>
> Great!
> --- Hahn Irene <irenesbooks@...> wrote:
>
> > Kudos David Meadows.  You simple *have* to watch
> > this!
> >
> >
> http://www.atrium-media.com/rogueclassicism/Posts/00007917.html
> >
> > Irene
> >
> > Roman History Reading Group
> > Roman History Books and More (Blog)
> > Cohost, Ancient Classical History Forum
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > removed]
> >
> >
>

irenesbooks@... sent you a link to the following content:

the correspondence of marcus cornelius fronto as e-text
http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/roman_history_books_and_m/2008/05/the-corre\
sponde.html

The sender also included this note:

FYI

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Here is information about our June chats on Ovid: http://
romanhistorybooksandmore.freeservers.com/booklist2.htm.

As you see, there are plenty of translations to choose from, both in
print and online. As we say in Germany: "Wer die Wahl hat, hat die
Qual."  (Oh, the agony of choice!)

And  visit our blog: http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/

Irene

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Cohost, Ancient Classical History Forum







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(I wish Yahoo would do something about this!)

Another try:

Here is information about our June chats on Ovid:

http://romanhistorybooksandmore.freeservers.com/booklist2.htm.

As you see, there are plenty of translations to choose from, both in
print and online. As we say in Germany: "Wer die Wahl hat, hat die
Qual."  (Oh, the agony of choice!)

And  visit our blog: http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/


Irene

Roman History Reading Group
Roman History Books and More (Blog)
Cohost, Ancient Classical History Forum







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

And one more try!

Here is information about our June chats on Ovid: http://
romanhistorybooksandmore.freeservers.com/booklist2.htm

As you see, there are plenty of translations to choose from, both in
print and online. As we say in Germany: "Wer die Wahl hat, hat die
Qual."  (Oh, the agony of choice!)

And  visit our blog: http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/


Irene

Roman History Reading Group
Roman History Books and More (Blog)
Cohost, Ancient Classical History Forum







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irenesbooks@... sent you a link to the following content:

a quick note: book by karl galinsky on ovid's metamorphoses
http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/roman_history_books_and_m/2008/05/k-galinsk\
y-on-o.html

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e-char.html

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Hello All!

We had accessibility problems with out chat on AIM tonight -- they
seem to increase with each consecutive chat.

So we are exploring alternative chat options.

Stay tuned . . .

Irene

Roman History Reading Group
Roman History Books and More (Blog)
Cohost, Ancient Classical History Forum







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Salvete omnes!

Those few of us who turned up on June 4 were repeatedly booted off the
system by AIM.  Considering the ongoing problems with AIM chat, here
are a couple alternatives to look into:

1. Google Talk system
Home page
http://www.google.com/talk/

Starting a Group in Google Talk
http://www.google.com/support/talkgadget/bin/answer.py?answer=70698
NOTE:  link can be embedded in website with one line of code

Google Talk features
http://www.google.com/support/talkgadget/bin/answer.py?answer=57680&src=top5&lev\
=

2. Yahoo Instant Messenger
Home page (includes links for international users, by country)
http://messenger.yahoo.com/

NOTE:  Yahoo IM is supported by advertising, much more obtrusive than
on Google.

NOTE 2:  MSN messenger / MSN systems may be as insecure as Outlook
Express, which is famous for "shipping with ports open" which
reportedly makes it highly hackable and hijackable.

I'd like to suggest we do a trial with Google Talk on a non-chatroom
evening, maybe Yahoo Instant Messenger also, then get a consensus and
then decide if we want to stay with AIM.

My personal preference would be for Google -- several years'
experience with their e-mail system tells me it's reliable,
unobtrusive, and I LOVE Google's policy of "no visual ads."

Valete bene
Garummm

Salvete Omnes

Irene, your (internal) message re Google says
"I set up a chat room"

Do you mean "I have set up" (ie it's done and
you will send us a link) or

"I will set up"  depending on consensus?

"Set" being one of those ambiguous English verbs that
has no distinct past tense declension . . .

Valet bene
Garummm

Meaning, "I will set up a trial chat room"

Irene

Roman History Reading Group
Roman History Books and More (Blog)
Cohost, Ancient Classical History Forum





On Jun 5, 2008, at 1:36 AM, C. Aurelia Falco Silvana wrote:

> Salvete Omnes
>
> Irene, your (internal) message re Google says
> "I set up a chat room"
>
> Do you mean "I have set up" (ie it's done and
> you will send us a link) or
>
> "I will set up" depending on consensus?
>
> "Set" being one of those ambiguous English verbs that
> has no distinct past tense declension . . .
>
> Valet bene
> Garummm
>
>
>



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I set up a Google ID – so I’m ready for a trial chat room.  I can join the
chat next Wednesday.





Beverly & Ian Jennings

bjennings3@...



From: Roman_History_Books@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Roman_History_Books@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Hahn Irene
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 9:12 AM
To: Roman_History_Books@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Roman_History_Books] Chat room



Meaning, "I will set up a trial chat room"

Irene

Roman History Reading Group
Roman History Books and More (Blog)
Cohost, Ancient Classical History Forum

On Jun 5, 2008, at 1:36 AM, C. Aurelia Falco Silvana wrote:

> Salvete Omnes
>
> Irene, your (internal) message re Google says
> "I set up a chat room"
>
> Do you mean "I have set up" (ie it's done and
> you will send us a link) or
>
> "I will set up" depending on consensus?
>
> "Set" being one of those ambiguous English verbs that
> has no distinct past tense declension . . .
>
> Valet bene
> Garummm
>
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Dear listmembers,

The "e-papers" section of the website Moneta
<http://www.cultura-net.com/moneta>http://www.cultura-net.com/moneta is
updated.

The Revue numismatique (1958-2003) is available on internet. Go to the
"e-papers" section and use the link in "Generalites". The texts of the
Revue numismatique are in various languages.

Two new volumes of the "Collection Moneta" are announced in the
"nouveautes" section.
- The inventory of Roman silver coin hoards in Romania (Gordian III/
Aurelianus) in French (272 pages)
- An inventory of the publications of the main Roman hoards (IIIrd c.
BC/Vth c. AD) (142 pages)
These books will be published in August.

Moneta has published 8 books since January 08. A new group of books will be
announced in autumn.

Do not forget to leave your email address on the Moneta website
("newsletter") and to bookmark the site.

Georges Depeyrot

Yes, I've a mac too. It's a black MacBook.

Clare

Salvete omnes!

There are many alternatives for chat setups, according to another
group I belong to.  These centre around "Internet Relay Chats".
Here's a link.

http://novaroma.org/nr/IRC_%28Nova_Roma%29

I have tried, but cannot make it work. My browser keeps saying "not
connected to any program".   I did download a "client" called
"Pidgin" which has the advantage of managing all your various Chat
systems from one screen, and allowing you to modify many features of
them (including nicknames, and, apparently history).  However, that's
as far as I have got.

You might want to contact the Nova Roma webmaster on this.  He is very
computer-adept, which is probably why I can't follow this.  I am very
tired of struggling with computer systems:  within the past year, a
hard-drive wipe, then a new tower, and persistent problems with the
Windows  installations.  I keep losing capability with each change.

I regret I cannot be an authoritative anchor on the chatroom problem.
  I struggle with no knowledge of what I am doing or why it works.  It
struck me from the beginning that the Roman Books website was very
complicated, given its many layers of access spread over various
systems (Yahoo, Aim, Blogs, typepad, etc. etc.)  Perhaps it has
reached a threshold where things are "short-cicruiting" because there
are so many interconnections.  Maybe it needs to be simplified.

Valete bene
Garummm

Thank you for your comments, Garummm!

We've discovered that AIM has become very volatile lately, so we
definitely need another chat facility.

The blog http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/ I cannot/would not
change, it has one of the best software and support services around
and has a number of news organizations as customers, always a good
indicator.  However, anyone can subscribe to it via e-mail -- scroll
down the to bottom of the left-hand column -- in order to be kept up
to date as to what Bingley and I are putting up (watch his current
series on mythology).  Or put it on iGoogle, or use the RSS feed (see
the book mark button almost on top of the right-hand column) for
whatever place you want it to be in, up to and including Facebook. I
myself have my favorite blogs on my iGoogle page so I that I can see
what my Classics blogger friends are doing.

The website stands alone but can be reached from the blog.

As to the e-mail list on Yahoo, I'm not sure what the alternative
could be. We need a place for notifications, posts, and responses by
subscribers such as yourself.  And will the bulk of the current
subscribers switch or simply go away?

Suggestions are welcome from all !

Irene

Roman History Reading Group
Roman History Books and More (Blog)
Cohost, Ancient Classical History Forum





On Jun 8, 2008, at 3:44 AM, C. Aurelia Falco Silvana wrote:

> Salvete omnes!
>
> There are many alternatives for chat setups, according to another
> group I belong to. These centre around "Internet Relay Chats".
> Here's a link.
>
> http://novaroma.org/nr/IRC_%28Nova_Roma%29
>
> I have tried, but cannot make it work. My browser keeps saying "not
> connected to any program". I did download a "client" called
> "Pidgin" which has the advantage of managing all your various Chat
> systems from one screen, and allowing you to modify many features of
> them (including nicknames, and, apparently history). However, that's
> as far as I have got.
>
> You might want to contact the Nova Roma webmaster on this. He is very
> computer-adept, which is probably why I can't follow this. I am very
> tired of struggling with computer systems: within the past year, a
> hard-drive wipe, then a new tower, and persistent problems with the
> Windows installations. I keep losing capability with each change.
>
> I regret I cannot be an authoritative anchor on the chatroom problem.
> I struggle with no knowledge of what I am doing or why it works. It
> struck me from the beginning that the Roman Books website was very
> complicated, given its many layers of access spread over various
> systems (Yahoo, Aim, Blogs, typepad, etc. etc.) Perhaps it has
> reached a threshold where things are "short-cicruiting" because there
> are so many interconnections. Maybe it needs to be simplified.
>
> Valete bene
> Garummm
>
>
>



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

An update to the post below:

I did a spot of maintenance on the blog: I changed the column order
for faster loading of the blog posts proper, so the columns referred
to below in connection with subscriptions are now next to each other,
to the right of the blog posts.

Irene

Roman History Reading Group
Roman History Books and More (Blog)
Cohost, Ancient Classical History Forum





Begin forwarded message:

> From: Hahn Irene <irenesbooks@...>
> Date: June 8, 2008 3:21:05 PM EDT
> To: Roman_History_Books@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Roman_History_Books] Internet Relay Chats -- more on
> freeware
>
> Thank you for your comments, Garummm!
>
> We've discovered that AIM has become very volatile lately, so we
> definitely need another chat facility.
>
> The blog http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/ I cannot/would not
> change, it has one of the best software and support services around
> and has a number of news organizations as customers, always a good
> indicator.  However, anyone can subscribe to it via e-mail --
> scroll down the to bottom of the left-hand column -- in order to be
> kept up to date as to what Bingley and I are putting up (watch his
> current series on mythology).  Or put it on iGoogle, or use the RSS
> feed (see the book mark button almost on top of the right-hand
> column) for whatever place you want it to be in, up to and
> including Facebook. I myself have my favorite blogs on my iGoogle
> page so I that I can see what my Classics blogger friends are doing.
>
> The website stands alone but can be reached from the blog.
>
> As to the e-mail list on Yahoo, I'm not sure what the alternative
> could be. We need a place for notifications, posts, and responses
> by subscribers such as yourself.  And will the bulk of the current
> subscribers switch or simply go away?
>
> Suggestions are welcome from all !
>
> Irene
>
> Roman History Reading Group
> Roman History Books and More (Blog)
> Cohost, Ancient Classical History Forum
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 8, 2008, at 3:44 AM, C. Aurelia Falco Silvana wrote:
>
>> Salvete omnes!
>>
>> There are many alternatives for chat setups, according to another
>> group I belong to. These centre around "Internet Relay Chats".
>> Here's a link.
>>
>> http://novaroma.org/nr/IRC_%28Nova_Roma%29
>>
>> I have tried, but cannot make it work. My browser keeps saying "not
>> connected to any program". I did download a "client" called
>> "Pidgin" which has the advantage of managing all your various Chat
>> systems from one screen, and allowing you to modify many features of
>> them (including nicknames, and, apparently history). However, that's
>> as far as I have got.
>>
>> You might want to contact the Nova Roma webmaster on this. He is very
>> computer-adept, which is probably why I can't follow this. I am very
>> tired of struggling with computer systems: within the past year, a
>> hard-drive wipe, then a new tower, and persistent problems with the
>> Windows installations. I keep losing capability with each change.
>>
>> I regret I cannot be an authoritative anchor on the chatroom problem.
>> I struggle with no knowledge of what I am doing or why it works. It
>> struck me from the beginning that the Roman Books website was very
>> complicated, given its many layers of access spread over various
>> systems (Yahoo, Aim, Blogs, typepad, etc. etc.) Perhaps it has
>> reached a threshold where things are "short-cicruiting" because there
>> are so many interconnections. Maybe it needs to be simplified.
>>
>> Valete bene
>> Garummm
>>
>>
>>
>



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I love the blog and check it nearly every day.  I really enjoy the classical
blogger links Irene has listed.

Couldn’t we continue to use the Yahoo email list and use another chat site?
And as to Irene’s question about our type of computer, I do NOT have a Mac.



Heloise(Beverly)



Beverly & Ian Jennings

bjennings3@...



From: Roman_History_Books@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Roman_History_Books@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Hahn Irene
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 2:21 PM
To: Roman_History_Books@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Roman_History_Books] Internet Relay Chats -- more on freeware



Thank you for your comments, Garummm!

We've discovered that AIM has become very volatile lately, so we
definitely need another chat facility.

The blog http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/ I cannot/would not
change, it has one of the best software and support services around
and has a number of news organizations as customers, always a good
indicator. However, anyone can subscribe to it via e-mail -- scroll
down the to bottom of the left-hand column -- in order to be kept up
to date as to what Bingley and I are putting up (watch his current
series on mythology). Or put it on iGoogle, or use the RSS feed (see
the book mark button almost on top of the right-hand column) for
whatever place you want it to be in, up to and including Facebook. I
myself have my favorite blogs on my iGoogle page so I that I can see
what my Classics blogger friends are doing.

The website stands alone but can be reached from the blog.

As to the e-mail list on Yahoo, I'm not sure what the alternative
could be. We need a place for notifications, posts, and responses by
subscribers such as yourself. And will the bulk of the current
subscribers switch or simply go away?

Suggestions are welcome from all !

Irene

Roman History Reading Group
Roman History Books and More (Blog)
Cohost, Ancient Classical History Forum

On Jun 8, 2008, at 3:44 AM, C. Aurelia Falco Silvana wrote:

> Salvete omnes!
>
> There are many alternatives for chat setups, according to another
> group I belong to. These centre around "Internet Relay Chats".
> Here's a link.
>
> http://novaroma.org/nr/IRC_%28Nova_Roma%29
>
> I have tried, but cannot make it work. My browser keeps saying "not
> connected to any program". I did download a "client" called
> "Pidgin" which has the advantage of managing all your various Chat
> systems from one screen, and allowing you to modify many features of
> them (including nicknames, and, apparently history). However, that's
> as far as I have got.
>
> You might want to contact the Nova Roma webmaster on this. He is very
> computer-adept, which is probably why I can't follow this. I am very
> tired of struggling with computer systems: within the past year, a
> hard-drive wipe, then a new tower, and persistent problems with the
> Windows installations. I keep losing capability with each change.
>
> I regret I cannot be an authoritative anchor on the chatroom problem.
> I struggle with no knowledge of what I am doing or why it works. It
> struck me from the beginning that the Roman Books website was very
> complicated, given its many layers of access spread over various
> systems (Yahoo, Aim, Blogs, typepad, etc. etc.) Perhaps it has
> reached a threshold where things are "short-cicruiting" because there
> are so many interconnections. Maybe it needs to be simplified.
>
> Valete bene
> Garummm
>
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Salvete omnes!

I'm wondering if the Yahoo Group site itself couldn't work for chat
purposes?

If our esteemed owner/moderator changed all our ratings to
"unmoderated", we should be able to post directly, and fairly fast.
I belong to a number of Yahoo Groups, and those for which I am
unmoderated post almost instantly.

The big advantage is that each post would have an archive number, and
all would be reviewable.  The one hassle I see is that we would have
to skip back and forth from the message posting page, to the list of
accepted messages.

Just a thought.  Simpler is better.

valete bene
Garummm

PS I do like the blog content -- I just find the technical setup to be
very complex for the relatively low volume of use. As they learned at
the Denver airport, where the new super-computer baggage system
consistently lost bags for two years after opening -- the more complex
a system is, the more unstable it is.

My last message was posted instantly.
Can we try this site for chat?

Valete bene
Garummm

I also love the blog and have a white mac!  Being a Britisher I dont
often manage to schedule my work so I can attend the discussions,
however, through the group I have found so many more interesting
books to read and do try and keep up with the list and found an e-
learning course!  Whilst I realise that this post is of no help with
chat room debate, I just wanted to say a big thank you to Irene and
the group for livening up my day and increasing my Roman library on a
far too regular basis!
regards

Samantha

--- In Roman_History_Books@yahoogroups.com, "Beverly & Ian Jennings"
<bjennings3@...> wrote:
>
> I love the blog and check it nearly every day.  I really enjoy the
classical blogger links Irene has listed.
>
> Couldn’t we continue to use the Yahoo email list and use another
chat site? And as to Irene’s question about our type of computer, I
do NOT have a Mac.
>
>
>
> Heloise(Beverly)
>
>
>
> Beverly & Ian Jennings
>
> bjennings3@...
>
>
>
> From: Roman_History_Books@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Roman_History_Books@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Hahn Irene
> Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 2:21 PM
> To: Roman_History_Books@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Roman_History_Books] Internet Relay Chats -- more on
freeware
>
>
>
> Thank you for your comments, Garummm!
>
> We've discovered that AIM has become very volatile lately, so we
> definitely need another chat facility.
>
> The blog http://romanhistorybooks.typepad.com/ I cannot/would not
> change, it has one of the best software and support services around
> and has a number of news organizations as customers, always a good
> indicator. However, anyone can subscribe to it via e-mail -- scroll
> down the to bottom of the left-hand column -- in order to be kept
up
> to date as to what Bingley and I are putting up (watch his current
> series on mythology). Or put it on iGoogle, or use the RSS feed
(see
> the book mark button almost on top of the right-hand column) for
> whatever place you want it to be in, up to and including Facebook.
I
> myself have my favorite blogs on my iGoogle page so I that I can
see
> what my Classics blogger friends are doing.
>
> The website stands alone but can be reached from the blog.
>
> As to the e-mail list on Yahoo, I'm not sure what the alternative
> could be. We need a place for notifications, posts, and responses
by
> subscribers such as yourself. And will the bulk of the current
> subscribers switch or simply go away?
>
> Suggestions are welcome from all !
>
> Irene
>
> Roman History Reading Group
> Roman History Books and More (Blog)
> Cohost, Ancient Classical History Forum
>
> On Jun 8, 2008, at 3:44 AM, C. Aurelia Falco Silvana wrote:
>
> > Salvete omnes!
> >
> > There are many alternatives for chat setups, according to another
> > group I belong to. These centre around "Internet Relay Chats".
> > Here's a link.
> >
> > http://novaroma.org/nr/IRC_%28Nova_Roma%29
> >
> > I have tried, but cannot make it work. My browser keeps
saying "not
> > connected to any program". I did download a "client" called
> > "Pidgin" which has the advantage of managing all your various Chat
> > systems from one screen, and allowing you to modify many features
of
> > them (including nicknames, and, apparently history). However,
that's
> > as far as I have got.
> >
> > You might want to contact the Nova Roma webmaster on this. He is
very
> > computer-adept, which is probably why I can't follow this. I am
very
> > tired of struggling with computer systems: within the past year, a
> > hard-drive wipe, then a new tower, and persistent problems with
the
> > Windows installations. I keep losing capability with each change.
> >
> > I regret I cannot be an authoritative anchor on the chatroom
problem.
> > I struggle with no knowledge of what I am doing or why it works.
It
> > struck me from the beginning that the Roman Books website was very
> > complicated, given its many layers of access spread over various
> > systems (Yahoo, Aim, Blogs, typepad, etc. etc.) Perhaps it has
> > reached a threshold where things are "short-cicruiting" because
there
> > are so many interconnections. Maybe it needs to be simplified.
> >
> > Valete bene
> > Garummm
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>