Quite a few company commanders have told me they're coming but haven't submitted
registrations yet, so I thought I'd post a list and let their members bug them.
The budget is incredibly tight this year (it was touch and go as to whether or
not the event would even happen), so units that aren't registered in advance
cannot be paid (as in the past, in MSMH $).

See http://www.ironworkshill.org/ for more information and to register. Here's
who we have so far:

Crown Forces:
Loyal American Regiment *
Queen's Rangers *
4th New Jersey Volunteers *
Royal Artillery *
Pennsylvania Loyalists *

Continental Forces:
3rd Pennsylvania Light Infantry *
5th Pennsylvania Regiment *
11th Pennsylvania Regiment *
NJ Militia, Heard's Brigade *
24th Connecticut Militia Regiment *

Sutlers and Merchants:
Ned Hector *
Mercy Ingraham - Open Hearth Cooking *
Rancocas Merchant *
Florance Drum Company *
Eileen Anderson *
Home Style Company - David and Kari Phillips *
At the Sign of the White Rose *

I'm told MSMH has been having problems with their FAX machine since moving to a
new office, so if you haven't already sent your POI, either mail it or bring it
to the Officer's Meeting that morning.

your servant,
ian johns
Loyal American Regiment

I've found the exact citation for the article discussing this print:

'A New Appraisal of an Old Print'. Stephen Gilbert and Stephen Rayner. The
Valley Forge Journal Vol. 3 No. 2 (December 1986) p. 92-103.

Essential reading for anyone interested in this print.
Don N. Hagist
Information on British soldiers: http://redcoat76.blogspot.com/

>
> --- In Revlist@yahoogroups.com, "Paul" <pdickfoss@> wrote:
> >
> > Dear List,
> >
> > The following picture has all the drawbacks of the satire of the time but it
illustrates several soldiers in America in 1778!
> >
http://lwlimages.library.yale.edu/walpoleweb/oneITEM.asp?pid=lwlpr04323&iid=lwlp\
r04323 I really find the variety of hats to be interesting. Look at that
greatcoat, belly box, the canteen on the light infantry soldier, the shoulders
of the short regimental (it must be a specific unit)? It looks like there is a
man on the fortifications firing a canon.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Paul Dickfoss
> > http://www.wmboothdraper.com/
> >
> Historian and reenactor Steve Gilbert published a detailed study of this print
in 1980s or 1990s; unfortunately I can't find the exact citation right now, but
it was in something like the Valley Forge Historical Review. The following is a
summary of his interpretation, from my own memory of the article:
>
> The print is an attempt to show to the British public the futility of trying
to win the war in America by achieving battlefield victories. The figures in the
foreground are, from right to left:
>
> Three disheveled captured American soldiers, being held by...
> A cocky British light infantryman under the command of...
> General Sir William Howe, graciously presenting his victory to...
> King George III, represented by his Hanoverian influence and wandering eye.
>
> Meanwhile, in the background, America looms as an extensive land still
securely held by Americans.
> While on the ground is a wounded black slave-turned-soldier who suffers more
than anyone.
>
> Gilbert posits that this print is based on sketches done by the same British
officer who provided the background for the famous goache paintings of Paoli and
Germantown. A set of four sketches by the same officer, recently sold at auction
but unfortunately not published (although bootleg digital images are widely
circulated) has extensive similarities to the Mathew Darley print and to the
Germantown and Paoli pictures.
>
> There may be other ways to interpret this print, but Gilbert's analysis is
pretty convincing.
> Don N. Hagist
> Studies of British soldiers: http://redcoat76.blogspot.com/
>

Hey Nancy,



Thanks for looking into this.  This is exactly what I’m looking for.  Do you
have the ability (and time) to scan those pages and send them to me?



Best, Greg



From: Revlist@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Revlist@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Nancy Stewart
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 4:52 PM
To: Revlist@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Revlist] Nathanael Greene





Greg,

I have done a little more looking this afternoon in Vol 5 of the NG papers.  In
the notes to a letter from NG to Samuel Huntington, Pres. of Congress while NG
is in Philadelphia on April 3, 1780, there is reference to "a member of
Congress" who spoke heatedly in the General's defense during discussions about
his management of the QM dept.  This is apparently reported by Philip Schuyler
in a letter to G. Washington, 5 April, (Burnett, Letters, 5:  107-8).  It
appears Schuyler reported to GW that the unnamed defender said NG was the
properest person  to command the army in case of an accident to GW and that GW
thought so too.    So you probably want to look for that letter from Philip
Schuyler to Washington.  As far as I am aware, there has never been anything
found where Washington, himself, wrote that these were his wishes.  I have seen
another letter where "jealousies" are reported to NG because of the close nature
of his relationship to
G.W.    I think I recall that it was from Joseph Reed, but without finding it
again to double check, I'm just not sure that is who the letter was from.

Nancy

Nancy Stewart
Campbell's Rifles and
Bookstore @ Guilford Courthouse NMP

________________________________
From: Greg Brooking <greg.brooking@... <mailto:greg.brooking%40gmail.com>
>
To: Revlist@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Revlist%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, November 28, 2009 9:45:03 AM
Subject: [Revlist] Nathanael Greene


Friends,

I'm trying to find information in the *Papers of General Nathanael Greene*.
I need the letter and footnotes concerning George Washington and the
possibility of Greene as his successor. I don't know the exact page
number(s) of the letter or all of the footnotes, but I do know that at least
part of the footnote is in volume 5, page 594. I, quite literally, have
every other volume at my desk and there is not an available copy (according
to WorldCat) within 100 miles of my home (this volume is currently checked
out at the 3 libraries which own it).

I would be very indebted if anyone has this volume and the ability, and
inclination, to scan an forward.

Best,

--
Robert G. Brooking
Adjunct Professor, Kennesaw State University
Ph.D. Student, Georgia State University
128 Fitchburg Drive
Woodstock, GA 30189
478-501-0362
http://ksuweb. kennesaw. edu/~rbrooki1/

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Duke,
Your rifle was made by James S. Davis and Jared Morgan Hurst, who were
gunsmith/gunmakers in Paris, Edgar County, Illinos, from about 1873 through late
1877. I have two rifles by them in my own collection, both are stamped "DAVIS &
HURST PARIS ILLS." I have lot's more information if you are interested.

Curt

--- In Revlist@yahoogroups.com, "dukermm" <dukermm@...> wrote:
>
> Does anybody from The Illinois area have any information on a Davis & Hurst
gun builders from Paris, Illinois.
> I have an original caplock rifle, very heavy barrel and about .45 cal.
> I would like to find information on.
>
> Thanks,
> Duke
>

--- In Revlist@yahoogroups.com, "highlandwolf64" <highlandwolf64@...> wrote:
>
> My 3rd great grandfather,William Turner Gaulden(Gauldin) nephew of John
Gaulden,was in different battles of the Revolutionary War. His story has
fascinated me since a small child,at first I thought they were telling me a
"story." Then as an adult thanks to the computer,I found out the story was true.
>
> But I didn't know his other exploits....

Mickey,

You might want to visit a National Archives Research Center and take a look at
his pension application (Archives collection M804). I took a quick peek and it
is 70+ pages long. I think the closest centers to southern Illinois are in
Chicago and Kansas City.

Mike Barbieri
Whitcomb's Corps

Greg,

I have done a little more looking this afternoon in Vol 5 of the NG papers.  In
the notes to a letter from NG to Samuel Huntington, Pres. of Congress while NG
is in Philadelphia on April 3, 1780, there is reference to "a member of
Congress" who spoke heatedly in the General's defense during discussions about
his management of the QM dept.  This is apparently reported by Philip Schuyler
in a letter to G. Washington, 5 April, (Burnett, Letters, 5:  107-8).  It
appears Schuyler reported to GW that the unnamed defender said NG was the
properest person  to command the army in case of an accident to GW and that GW
thought so too.    So you probably want to look for that letter from Philip
Schuyler to Washington.  As far as I am aware, there has never been anything
found where Washington, himself, wrote that these were his wishes.  I have seen
another letter where "jealousies" are reported to NG because of the close nature
of his relationship to
  G.W.    I think I recall that it was from Joseph Reed, but without finding
it again to double check, I'm just not sure that is who the letter was from.

Nancy


Nancy Stewart
Campbell's Rifles and
Bookstore @ Guilford Courthouse NMP




________________________________
From: Greg Brooking <greg.brooking@...>
To: Revlist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, November 28, 2009 9:45:03 AM
Subject: [Revlist] Nathanael Greene

 
Friends,

I'm trying to find information in the *Papers of General Nathanael Greene*.
I need the letter and footnotes concerning George Washington and the
possibility of Greene as his successor. I don't know the exact page
number(s) of the letter or all of the footnotes, but I do know that at least
part of the footnote is in volume 5, page 594. I, quite literally, have
every other volume at my desk and there is not an available copy (according
to WorldCat) within 100 miles of my home (this volume is currently checked
out at the 3 libraries which own it).

I would be very indebted if anyone has this volume and the ability, and
inclination, to scan an forward.

Best,

--
Robert G. Brooking
Adjunct Professor, Kennesaw State University
Ph.D. Student, Georgia State University
128 Fitchburg Drive
Woodstock, GA 30189
478-501-0362
http://ksuweb. kennesaw. edu/~rbrooki1/

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Actually, it looks like his account of action just prior to the battle of
Guilford Courthouse is questionable - no doubt from the passage of time between
the action and the pension application.  I don't know about Henton Springs, but
since he mentions it just after passing the Dan River back into North Carolina
and before action at Alamance, it doesn't seem likely that it would be Eutaw
Springs.  My guess is that he means Wetzell's Mill (or Weitzell's) where it
is stated Whiteside's Mill on Reddy Creek (Reedy Fork Creek).  The mention of
Wetzell's mill and Alamance in conjunction with crossing the Dan River back
into N.C. sounds like the campaign in the couple of weeks just prior to
Guilford Courthouse.  If that is the case, Daniel Morgan was not with the
army.  By that point, he had been relieved of duty so that he could recover at
home from several very painful conditions.  I begin to wonder if perhaps this
pensioner has
  "remembered" different actions out of context to when they may actually have
occured.
 Nancy Stewart
Campbell's Rifles and
Bookstore @ Guilford Courthouse NMP




________________________________
From: donhagist <dhagist@...>
To: Revlist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, November 28, 2009 11:57:15 AM
Subject: [Revlist] Re: William Turner Gaulden-Pittsylvania County,Va.

 
There is a clearer summary of this man's service on another web site, which
quotes from his own pension application. From the text below, you'll see that
the 'skirmish' in which he was wounded was the battle of Guilford Courthouse, a
pretty well-documented action.
'Henton Springs' is probably supposed to read 'Eutaw Springs', another
well-known action. Colonel Washington's light horse was on the American side;
when Gaulden writes that he "fell in" this unit, he probably means that his
company of rifle men met up with and joined them - they certainly didn't fight
each other.
The information below is from:
http://familytreema ker.genealogy. com/users/ g/a/u/Catherine- L-Gauldin/
GENE4-0006. html
Don N. Hagist
Information on British soldiers: http://redcoat76. blogspot. com/

On this 15th day of April 1833 personally appeared before the Court of
Pittsylvania County now sitting William T. Gauldin a resident of the said county
of Pittsylvania in the state aforesaid, aged eighty years, he being first duly
sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order
to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June the 7th 1832. That
having been in the Service of the United States as a volunteer soldier in the
year 1778 or 77 and marched from the County of Bedford in the state of Virginia
in a campaign of militia which was commanded by Capt. James Adams, Scout, John__
and ensign Hitsin (?) direct to Port Lannis (?) near New river and staid there
about two weeks, then marched to Port chisolm and from there to the Lead Mines
where we were stationed while our term of service expired under the command of
Capt. Lynch. I was discharged at that place after serving a tour of three
months. My discharge is lost or
  mislaid and cannot be found. I do not know any person living that was in
service with me at that time.
"In the month of April 1780, I again enlisted in the Army of the United States
with Col. William at Coles Ferry on the Staunton river in the county of
Charlotte in the state of Virginia for twelve months. I was attached to Capt.
Dickson's company of riflemen and marched with them to Halifax county where we
fell in Col. Leigh and Col. Washington's Light Horse. From there we marched
across the Dan river and entered the state of North Carolina, joined Col.
Morgan, was with him in the Battle of Henton Springs, was at the taking and
killing of about 150 Tories at a crossroads, from there we marched to a place
called Allimance where we had a skirmish with the British and killed nineteen or
twenty of them. From there we marched to Whitesides Mill on the Reddy Fork and
had a severe skirmish with the British under the command of Lord Cornwllis is
the said county of Guilford and had a very severe battle with them which was
conducted by General Green, Stevens,
  Lawson, etc.
In that battle, I was shot through the head, the ball came out at the end of my
nose, which rendered me unable to perform my duty whatever. I remained at
Guilford Courthouse about two weeks. I was then taken to the county of Charlotte
in the state of Virginia and put under the care of Doctor Cunningham where I
remained until sometime after the time of my enlistment had expired and I was
never able to perform military service afterwards. I received no discharge but
was permitted to go hme by Doctor Cunningham, the service rendered on ___
approved by David Irby who was a soldier with me at the Battle of Guildford.
About seventeen years after the War ended I was place on the pension roll of
Virginia by an Act of the Virginia Legislature at ___ per year which I have
received semi-annually ever since.
I was born in the county of King William in the state of Virginia in the year
1752. My age was recorded in a book which was in the possession of my mother
some years ago and I do not know what became of it. I lived in the county of
Bedford in the same state of Virginia when I enterd the service of the
Revolution. I lived in the said county of Bedford eight years after the war
ended. Then moved to the county of Pittsylvania and have lived in that county
ever since. I hereby relinquish every claim whatever to a pension or annuity
except the foresaid and declare that my name is not on the pension roll of the
agency of any state only that of the agency of the state of Virginia--Sworn to
and subscribed the day and year aforesaid-- William T. (his X mark) Gaulding

--- In Revlist@yahoogroups .com, "highlandwolf64" <highlandwolf64@ ...> wrote:
>
> My 3rd great grandfather, William Turner Gaulden(Gauldin) nephew of John
Gaulden,was in different battles of the Revolutionary War. His story has
fascinated me since a small child,at first I thought they were telling me a
"story." Then as an adult thanks to the computer,I found out the story was true.
>
> But I didn't know his other exploits.
>
> Volunteered 1776 or '77 in
> Bedford under Capt. James Adams to Fort Lewis near New River, then to
> Ft.Chiswell, then to lead mines under Col. Lynch. Tour, three months. In 1777
or 78 volunteered 12 months with Gideon Booker and rendezvoused at New London.
Apr.-May 1780 volunteered with Col. Williams at Coles Ferry on Staunton in
Charlotte Co.; was attached to Capt. Dixon's Co
> of riflemen and marched to Halifax Co. where we fell in with Col.Washington' s
Lighthorse at Battle of Henton Springs. Took or killed about 150 Tories at
crossroads or race track; from there to Allimance where had a skirmish with the
British and killed 19 or 20, severe skirmish with the British under Lord
Cornwallis and had a very severe battle. Was
> shot in the head, the ball coming out at the end of the nose. That is the
story I was told as a child. He actually sneezed in the Army hospital and it
came out his nose. This story has been passed on to many generations. I took
this short synapses of his military history from rootsweb. Killing about 150 was
quite a good number I reckon.
>
> I am into writing and have considered writing historical fiction about him as
a detective or something,cause his life was so fascinating.
>
> Does anyone know any more about these battles I have mentioned?
>
> Good Day
> Mickey in Southern Illinois
>







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I do not think this is one of those "Belgian Bombs" that you had that so many
places now are banning (I owned one myself) that used a simple plumbers pipe
with a press-fitted breechplug. This here appears to have a heavier breech
(maybe) and it looks to me to be some sort of late flintlock era, late
Napoleonic or even later, just before armies converted to percussion. Perhaps it
is some sort of Liege contract 1830's or so. I would not recommend shooting it.

Dave H
3NH

--------------------------------



--- In Revlist@yahoogroups.com, avalonforge <avalonforge@...> wrote:
>
> See http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=148128805#PIC
> <http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=148128805#PIC>
>
> First, let me give you some background; while Belgium was a colonial
> power in Africa in the 19th and 20th centuries, they had allowed the
> locals to possess and use, obsolete flintlock firearms for hunting. And
> since Belgium (especially Liege) had been making firearms for hundreds
> of years, it gave the arms makers a chance to rid themselves of lots of
> old parts still in inventory. They apparently cobbled together lots of
> muskets, many of which were of poorer quality. I believe the gun
> illustrated is one of these.
>
> In fact, during the American Revolution Bicentennial, the first musket I
> bought was a Belgian made musket, advertised as having some antique
> parts. Indeed it appeared that the bands, trigger guard and butt plate
> were well made old stock. The newly made wood stock was as nice as any I
> have seen, made in the French 1777 pattern. The lock was another story.
> It was somewhat crudely made and took a lot of work to get it to spark.
> The most disappointing feature was the new barrel, which was just a
> straight tube with no taper whatsoever.
>
> --
> John White
> Avalon Forge
> Baltimore
> "Replicas for 18th Century Living History"
> http://www.avalonforge.com
>

Recently, the Manassas City Council voted to pay $100,000 to a group called
Virginia Civil War Events, Inc. to produce a 150th anniversary reenactment of
the First Battle of Manassas in 2011 and the council is also requesting upwards
of $250,000 from the Commonwealth of Virginia for the same purpose.

This got a write up in a local paper at:

http://www2.starexponent.com/cse/news/state_regional/article/manassas_set_to_fun\
d_civil_war_events/46928/

At least one Civil War blogger has written about this to express his concerns:

http://cwmemory.com/2009/11/20/250000-for-a-reenactment/

It is an interesting discussion given the small budgets that our time period has
to work with.

Cheers,
Todd Post
2d Virginia Regiment
www.secondvirginia.org
www.facebook.com/SecondVirginia
www.twitter.com/SecondVirginia

Greg,

Our copy of Vol. 5, p. 594 doesn't show anything having to do with NG and GW's
successor.  Do you have any part of the letter you're looking for that
indicates the approximate date it was written, and/or do you know to whom/from
whom the letter was written?
 Nancy Stewart
Campbell's Rifles and
Bookstore @ Guilford Courthouse NMP




________________________________
From: Greg Brooking <greg.brooking@...>
To: Revlist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, November 28, 2009 9:45:03 AM
Subject: [Revlist] Nathanael Greene

 
Friends,

I'm trying to find information in the *Papers of General Nathanael Greene*.
I need the letter and footnotes concerning George Washington and the
possibility of Greene as his successor. I don't know the exact page
number(s) of the letter or all of the footnotes, but I do know that at least
part of the footnote is in volume 5, page 594. I, quite literally, have
every other volume at my desk and there is not an available copy (according
to WorldCat) within 100 miles of my home (this volume is currently checked
out at the 3 libraries which own it).

I would be very indebted if anyone has this volume and the ability, and
inclination, to scan an forward.

Best,

--
Robert G. Brooking
Adjunct Professor, Kennesaw State University
Ph.D. Student, Georgia State University
128 Fitchburg Drive
Woodstock, GA 30189
478-501-0362
http://ksuweb. kennesaw. edu/~rbrooki1/

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See http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=148128805#PIC
<http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=148128805#PIC>

First, let me give you some background; while Belgium was a colonial
power in Africa in the 19th and 20th centuries, they had allowed the
locals to possess and use, obsolete flintlock firearms for hunting. And
since Belgium (especially Liege) had been making firearms for hundreds
of years, it gave the arms makers a chance to rid themselves of lots of
old parts still in inventory. They apparently cobbled together lots of
muskets, many of which were of poorer quality. I believe the gun
illustrated is one of these.

In fact, during the American Revolution Bicentennial, the first musket I
bought was a Belgian made musket, advertised as having some antique
parts. Indeed it appeared that the bands, trigger guard and butt plate
were well made old stock. The newly made wood stock was as nice as any I
have seen, made in the French 1777 pattern. The lock was another story.
It was somewhat crudely made and took a lot of work to get it to spark.
The most disappointing feature was the new barrel, which was just a
straight tube with no taper whatsoever.

--
John White
Avalon Forge
Baltimore
"Replicas for 18th Century Living History"
http://www.avalonforge.com

This thing looks just plain wrong -the cock seems out of proportion to the
rest of the lock, the side plate is a hack, and yes, that sight is absurd.
It bears no relation to the repurposed component pieces seem in Military
Arms in America and elsewhere.

Without knowing anything about the gunsmith behind this (hello, Dr.
Frankenstein), why would you go anywhere near it?

Greg Ketcham
2nd Albany

On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 11:02 AM, chris DIPASQUALE <depot7254@...>wrote:

>
>
> In the Fort Ti museum there is a musket labeled "American Musket" I believe
> that has English, French and Dutch parts. So it def would be plausible.
>
> Chris
>
>


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In the Fort Ti museum there is a musket labeled "American Musket" I believe that
has English, French and Dutch parts. So it def would be plausible.
 
Chris

--- On Mon, 11/30/09, Dr. Larry A. Maxwell <Patriot1775@...> wrote:


From: Dr. Larry A. Maxwell <Patriot1775@...>
Subject: Re: [Revlist] Re: "Musket for Reenactors" ... ID Sought
To: Revlist@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 10:23 AM


 



Question, if the musket John has posted the pic of is made up of a mix
of parts from reproduction muskets from the era, the Frankenbess, would
that make it a more valid piece for some colonial re-enactors than a
pure model? I have been told that many muskets were pieced together.
Just looking for thoughts on that.
Thank You
Larry Maxwell, 4th NY










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Well that depends.  The bayonet lug/sight is right out, as is the rear sight. 
It looks a bit short for barrel length, but I don't trust the photos.  The lock
looks OK.  So it might suffice if you worked on it a bit, BUT I would REALLY
WORRY about that barrel as the thing could've been cobbled together as a wall
hanger only, with a staked not screw-in breech plug.  Judging from some of the
wood-to-metal fit it looks like some sort of kit from the bicentenial.  If you
could get it on approval for enough days to have a gunsmith get the barrel
checked, for under $300 it might be good as a loaner or Continental piece.

YOHS

Dave Woolsey


-----Original Message-----
From: Revlist@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Dr. Larry A. Maxwell
Sent: Mon 11/30/2009 10:23 AM
To: Revlist@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Revlist] Re: "Musket for Reenactors" ... ID Sought

Question, if the musket John has posted the pic of is made up of a mix
of parts from reproduction  muskets from the era, the Frankenbess, would
that make it a more valid piece for some colonial re-enactors than a
pure model?  I have been told that many muskets were pieced together.
Just looking for thoughts on that.
Thank You
Larry Maxwell, 4th NY



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Tom,
  I have fitted without trouble, a Pedersoli mainspring to a Jap Bess, and I
think you should try a Pedersoli Charly spring.  The only problem was the tip of
the spring where it hit the tumbler was about a 1/16th of an inch too long, and
a bit of hand filing was all that was needed to complete the installation.  I'd
suggest you get a friend's Italian Charleville and have them remove the
mainspring and see if it will come very close to fitting your lock before you
order a spring, to save you the time and the shipping.  Unfortunately, some of
the internals of the 70's locks really changed a lot in that decade.

IF NOT then PM me and I will see what I can do.

YOHS

Dave Woolsey
jamminwoolsey@...

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From: Revlist@yahoogroups.com on behalf of bufalodncr@...
Sent: Sun 11/29/2009 9:14 AM
To: Revlist@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Revlist] "Musket for Reenactors" ... ID Sought


Gentlmen,

Since you guys know so much about guns, may I ask a question. I have a Japaneese
Navy Arms Charleville built in the 70's.
At our last garrison this fall, my seer spring broke. Where can I get one or get
one made?
I have already contacted Navy Arms and they said there are no such part
available.

Thanks for ANY help.

Tom



-----Original Message-----
From: John Ogden <johnjogden@...>
To: Revlist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, Nov 29, 2009 12:32 am
Subject: Re: [Revlist] "Musket for Reenactors" ... ID Sought


Dave,
      Your description of the origin of the parts seems pretty accurate.
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 10:29 PM, Woolsey, David <
avid.Woolsey@...> wrote:
>


  John,

  It's a "Frankenbess" I think..., somebody slapped a bunch of mismatched
  parts, to include the sights. The lock looks French or US, as does the
  rammer, but the butt plate looks German, while the sights look 19th century.


  Anybody else know as I am making a SWAG about it??

  YOHS

  Dave Woolsey


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  From: Revlist@yahoogroups.com <Revlist%40yahoogroups.com> on behalf of
  avalonforge
  Sent: Sat 11/28/2009 9:25 PM
  To: Revlist@yahoogroups.com <Revlist%40yahoogroups.com>
  Subject: [Revlist] "Musket for Reenactors" ... ID Sought

  See http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=148128805#PIC

  I have an idea what this may be, but I would like to have some inputs
  from you knowledgeable firearms folks out there.

  --
  John White
  Avalon Forge
  Baltimore
  "Replicas for 18th Century Living History"
  http://www.avalonforge.com

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Question, if the musket John has posted the pic of is made up of a mix
of parts from reproduction  muskets from the era, the Frankenbess, would
that make it a more valid piece for some colonial re-enactors than a
pure model?  I have been told that many muskets were pieced together.
Just looking for thoughts on that.
Thank You
Larry Maxwell, 4th NY

Bob,
 
As the saying goes, "I am a Soldier; I was a Soldier; I will always be a
Soldier". 
 
Thanks, and the same to you and yours.

Glenn

--- On Thu, 11/26/09, bolton1812 <bolton1812@...> wrote:


From: bolton1812 <bolton1812@...>
Subject: [Revlist] Re: Input on Rev. War Essay Question
To: Revlist@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 26, 2009, 11:48 AM


 



Glenn,
Very well. I agree.
Cheers,
Bob
And I would like to add, that I was unaware that you were former Military. I
would like to thank you for your service.
Have a great Thanksgiving!
B.











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John,
Looks (to use a technical term) "Frankendutch" or jabinglebongled out of Dutch
parts.
Jim Mullins

--- In Revlist@yahoogroups.com, avalonforge <avalonforge@...> wrote:
>
> See http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=148128805#PIC
>
> I have an idea what this may be, but I would like to have some inputs
> from you knowledgeable firearms folks out there.
>
> --
> John White
> Avalon Forge
> Baltimore
> "Replicas for 18th Century Living History"
> http://www.avalonforge.com
>

Tom,

I second the Patriot Musket Works recommendation.  Glenn Brosius can do the job.

Joe Seymour
Baltimore, MD

--- In Revlist@yahoogroups.com, REDCOAT43D@... wrote:
>
> Tom:
>
> Contact Glenn Brosius at Patriot Musket Works. He specializes in musket
> repairs including replacing lock parts such as sears. He replaced the sear on
> my  son's Loyalist Arms brown bess  with a Pedersoli sear. His  website is
> _www.patriotmusketworks.com_ (http://www.patriotmusketworks.com)
>
> Jerry  Hurwitz
> President, Princeton Battlefield Society
> 609-947-6574  (c)
> 609-243-6190 (w)
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Greetings,

Do we have an account of the event represented here and an indication of what
units were there?

JF

Tom:

Contact Glenn Brosius at Patriot Musket Works. He specializes in musket
repairs including replacing lock parts such as sears. He replaced the sear on
my  son's Loyalist Arms brown bess  with a Pedersoli sear. His  website is
_www.patriotmusketworks.com_ (http://www.patriotmusketworks.com)

Jerry  Hurwitz
President, Princeton Battlefield Society
609-947-6574  (c)
609-243-6190 (w)


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Tom,

Sear springs are about the hardest to find replacements for and the easiest
spring to make.  Follow the instructions in the late Kit Ravenshear's book
"Simplified V Springs" and you'll be amazed at how easy it is.  The book is
available from Track of the Wolf - http://tinyurl.com/yc96wfh

Regards,

Joseph

--- In Revlist@yahoogroups.com, bufalodncr@... wrote:
>
>
> Gentlmen,
>
> Since you guys know so much about guns, may I ask a question. I have a
Japaneese Navy Arms Charleville built in the 70's.
> At our last garrison this fall, my seer spring broke. Where can I get one or
get one made?
> I have already contacted Navy Arms and they said there are no such part
available.
>
> Thanks for ANY help.
>
> Tom

Gentlmen,

Since you guys know so much about guns, may I ask a question. I have a Japaneese
Navy Arms Charleville built in the 70's.
At our last garrison this fall, my seer spring broke. Where can I get one or get
one made?
I have already contacted Navy Arms and they said there are no such part
available.

Thanks for ANY help.

Tom



-----Original Message-----
From: John Ogden <johnjogden@...>
To: Revlist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, Nov 29, 2009 12:32 am
Subject: Re: [Revlist] "Musket for Reenactors" ... ID Sought


Dave,
      Your description of the origin of the parts seems pretty accurate.
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 10:29 PM, Woolsey, David <
avid.Woolsey@...> wrote:
>


  John,

  It's a "Frankenbess" I think..., somebody slapped a bunch of mismatched
  parts, to include the sights. The lock looks French or US, as does the
  rammer, but the butt plate looks German, while the sights look 19th century.


  Anybody else know as I am making a SWAG about it??

  YOHS

  Dave Woolsey


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Revlist@yahoogroups.com <Revlist%40yahoogroups.com> on behalf of
  avalonforge
  Sent: Sat 11/28/2009 9:25 PM
  To: Revlist@yahoogroups.com <Revlist%40yahoogroups.com>
  Subject: [Revlist] "Musket for Reenactors" ... ID Sought

  See http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=148128805#PIC

  I have an idea what this may be, but I would like to have some inputs
  from you knowledgeable firearms folks out there.

  --
  John White
  Avalon Forge
  Baltimore
  "Replicas for 18th Century Living History"
  http://www.avalonforge.com

  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




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The one fellow with the helmet says death or liberty and the horn says liberty
or death that may be a clue as to be a continental George efinger




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Dave,

      Your description of the origin of the parts seems pretty accurate.

On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 10:29 PM, Woolsey, David <
David.Woolsey@...> wrote:

>
>
>
> John,
>
> It's a "Frankenbess" I think..., somebody slapped a bunch of mismatched
> parts, to include the sights. The lock looks French or US, as does the
> rammer, but the butt plate looks German, while the sights look 19th century.
>
>
> Anybody else know as I am making a SWAG about it??
>
> YOHS
>
> Dave Woolsey
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> avalonforge
> Sent: Sat 11/28/2009 9:25 PM
> To: Revlist@yahoogroups.com <Revlist%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Revlist] "Musket for Reenactors" ... ID Sought
>
> See http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=148128805#PIC
>
> I have an idea what this may be, but I would like to have some inputs
> from you knowledgeable firearms folks out there.
>
> --
> John White
> Avalon Forge
> Baltimore
> "Replicas for 18th Century Living History"
> http://www.avalonforge.com
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>



--
John J. Ogden


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John,

It's a "Frankenbess" I think..., somebody slapped a bunch of mismatched parts,
to include the sights.  The lock looks French or US, as does the rammer, but the
butt plate looks German, while the sights look 19th century.

Anybody else know as I am making a SWAG about it??

YOHS

Dave Woolsey

-----Original Message-----
From: Revlist@yahoogroups.com on behalf of avalonforge
Sent: Sat 11/28/2009 9:25 PM
To: Revlist@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Revlist] "Musket for Reenactors" ... ID Sought

See http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=148128805#PIC

I have an idea what this may be, but I would like to have some inputs
from you knowledgeable firearms folks out there.

--
John White
Avalon Forge
Baltimore
"Replicas for 18th Century Living History"
http://www.avalonforge.com




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From what I understand, the owner fell on some bad times, made bad choices and
was using new deposits to fill old orders, etc. IIRC, it ended up with a bunch
of folks taking him to court.

Mario
www.oquagavolunteers.com

--- On Sat, 11/28/09, avalonforge <avalonforge@...> wrote:

From: avalonforge <avalonforge@...>
Subject: [Revlist] Narragansett Arms
To: Revlist@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, November 28, 2009, 9:12 PM







 









       Narragansett Arms made up several hundred copies of Patrick Ferguson's

breech loading rifle a few years ago. Apparently they made other flint

arms as well.



However, I cannot find if the firm is still in business. Can anyone fill

me in on this?



--

John White

Avalon Forge

Baltimore

"Replicas for 18th Century Living History"

http://www.avalonfo rge.com

























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See http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=148128805#PIC

I have an idea what this may be, but I would like to have some inputs
from you knowledgeable firearms folks out there.

--
John White
Avalon Forge
Baltimore
"Replicas for 18th Century Living History"
http://www.avalonforge.com

Narragansett Arms made up several hundred copies of Patrick Ferguson's
breech loading rifle a few years ago. Apparently they made other flint
arms as well.

However, I cannot find if the firm is still in business. Can anyone fill
me in on this?

--
John White
Avalon Forge
Baltimore
"Replicas for 18th Century Living History"
http://www.avalonforge.com

Thank you so much
Mickey in Illinois



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From: donhagist <dhagist@...>
Subject: [Revlist] Re: William Turner Gaulden-Pittsylvania County,Va.
To: Revlist@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, November 28, 2009, 4:57 PM


 



There is a clearer summary of this man's service on another web site, which
quotes from his own pension application. From the text below, you'll see that
the 'skirmish' in which he was wounded was the battle of Guilford Courthouse, a
pretty well-documented action.
'Henton Springs' is probably supposed to read 'Eutaw Springs', another
well-known action. Colonel Washington's light horse was on the American side;
when Gaulden writes that he "fell in" this unit, he probably means that his
company of rifle men met up with and joined them - they certainly didn't fight
each other.
The information below is from:
http://familytreema ker.genealogy. com/users/ g/a/u/Catherine- L-Gauldin/
GENE4-0006. html
Don N. Hagist
Information on British soldiers: http://redcoat76. blogspot. com/

On this 15th day of April 1833 personally appeared before the Court of
Pittsylvania County now sitting William T. Gauldin a resident of the said county
of Pittsylvania in the state aforesaid, aged eighty years, he being first duly
sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order
to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June the 7th 1832. That
having been in the Service of the United States as a volunteer soldier in the
year 1778 or 77 and marched from the County of Bedford in the state of Virginia
in a campaign of militia which was commanded by Capt. James Adams, Scout, John__
and ensign Hitsin (?) direct to Port Lannis (?) near New river and staid there
about two weeks, then marched to Port chisolm and from there to the Lead Mines
where we were stationed while our term of service expired under the command of
Capt. Lynch. I was discharged at that place after serving a tour of three
months. My discharge is lost or
  mislaid and cannot be found. I do not know any person living that was in
service with me at that time.
"In the month of April 1780, I again enlisted in the Army of the United States
with Col. William at Coles Ferry on the Staunton river in the county of
Charlotte in the state of Virginia for twelve months. I was attached to Capt.
Dickson's company of riflemen and marched with them to Halifax county where we
fell in Col. Leigh and Col. Washington's Light Horse. From there we marched
across the Dan river and entered the state of North Carolina, joined Col.
Morgan, was with him in the Battle of Henton Springs, was at the taking and
killing of about 150 Tories at a crossroads, from there we marched to a place
called Allimance where we had a skirmish with the British and killed nineteen or
twenty of them. From there we marched to Whitesides Mill on the Reddy Fork and
had a severe skirmish with the British under the command of Lord Cornwllis is
the said county of Guilford and had a very severe battle with them which was
conducted by General Green, Stevens,
  Lawson, etc.
In that battle, I was shot through the head, the ball came out at the end of my
nose, which rendered me unable to perform my duty whatever. I remained at
Guilford Courthouse about two weeks. I was then taken to the county of Charlotte
in the state of Virginia and put under the care of Doctor Cunningham where I
remained until sometime after the time of my enlistment had expired and I was
never able to perform military service afterwards. I received no discharge but
was permitted to go hme by Doctor Cunningham, the service rendered on ___
approved by David Irby who was a soldier with me at the Battle of Guildford.
About seventeen years after the War ended I was place on the pension roll of
Virginia by an Act of the Virginia Legislature at ___ per year which I have
received semi-annually ever since.
I was born in the county of King William in the state of Virginia in the year
1752. My age was recorded in a book which was in the possession of my mother
some years ago and I do not know what became of it. I lived in the county of
Bedford in the same state of Virginia when I enterd the service of the
Revolution. I lived in the said county of Bedford eight years after the war
ended. Then moved to the county of Pittsylvania and have lived in that county
ever since. I hereby relinquish every claim whatever to a pension or annuity
except the foresaid and declare that my name is not on the pension roll of the
agency of any state only that of the agency of the state of Virginia--Sworn to
and subscribed the day and year aforesaid-- William T. (his X mark) Gaulding

--- In Revlist@yahoogroups .com, "highlandwolf64" <highlandwolf64@ ...> wrote:
>
> My 3rd great grandfather, William Turner Gaulden(Gauldin) nephew of John
Gaulden,was in different battles of the Revolutionary War. His story has
fascinated me since a small child,at first I thought they were telling me a
"story." Then as an adult thanks to the computer,I found out the story was true.
>
> But I didn't know his other exploits.
>
> Volunteered 1776 or '77 in
> Bedford under Capt. James Adams to Fort Lewis near New River, then to
> Ft.Chiswell, then to lead mines under Col. Lynch. Tour, three months. In 1777
or 78 volunteered 12 months with Gideon Booker and rendezvoused at New London.
Apr.-May 1780 volunteered with Col. Williams at Coles Ferry on Staunton in
Charlotte Co.; was attached to Capt. Dixon's Co
> of riflemen and marched to Halifax Co. where we fell in with Col.Washington' s
Lighthorse at Battle of Henton Springs. Took or killed about 150 Tories at
crossroads or race track; from there to Allimance where had a skirmish with the
British and killed 19 or 20, severe skirmish with the British under Lord
Cornwallis and had a very severe battle. Was
> shot in the head, the ball coming out at the end of the nose. That is the
story I was told as a child. He actually sneezed in the Army hospital and it
came out his nose. This story has been passed on to many generations. I took
this short synapses of his military history from rootsweb. Killing about 150 was
quite a good number I reckon.
>
> I am into writing and have considered writing historical fiction about him as
a detective or something,cause his life was so fascinating.
>
> Does anyone know any more about these battles I have mentioned?
>
> Good Day
> Mickey in Southern Illinois
>











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