Salvete Antoni Grylle et alii ... The Imperial authorities had introduced ... This is what I have been suspecting. I can hardly wait to read the full article,...
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Nicolaus Moravius
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Feb 1, 2000 9:22 pm
Salvete! I have to point out that there is plenty of evidence that the private, family household cult of the traditional Religio Romana outlasted the Imperial...
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Nicolaus Moravius
n_moravius@...
Feb 1, 2000 9:24 pm
Salvete iterum... I forgot to mention that the Imperial Cult, like Catholic Christianity, is in fact a form of Orientalism. Pace deorum, Vado. ... ...
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RMerullo
rmerullo@...
Feb 1, 2000 11:18 pm
Salvete Nicolaue Moravi et alii OK, I believe you. But one of the first questions for me in looking at religio romana, is why did it die out? Why was it...
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Lucius
vergil@...
Feb 2, 2000 12:44 am
Salvete, A couple of years ago (96') I found an online article entitled "The Demise of Paganism" by James J. O'Donnell I had been unable to find it again until...
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Antonio Grilo
amg@...
Feb 2, 2000 10:57 am
Salve Vado, Merulle et all Firstly I want ti say that I agree with Merullo in the majority of aspects. I also want to reinforce that Greek and Roman Gods are...
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Lucius
vergil@...
Feb 2, 2000 3:47 pm
... aspects. ... that ... Salvete, Omnes I disagree, Mars is not Aries or vice versa. What did the Greeks call Quirinus? Vesta? What did the Greeks call their...
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Antonio Grilo
amg@...
Feb 2, 2000 4:13 pm
Salve Luci et al ... You have chosen native Italian Gods. What about the main Trinity of Roman Religion: Iuppiter, Iuno, Minerva? Iuppiter was called Dios,...
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Antonio Grilo
amg@...
Feb 2, 2000 4:43 pm
Salvete ... Sorry, wanted to say Ionian, not Phrygian. I add that one can only read Vergilius' Aenead to see how Romans regarded their Trojan origin. Valete ...
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Lucius
vergil@...
Feb 2, 2000 5:34 pm
Salvete, We obviously disagree. I only wish to point out that while Roma was influnced by nearly all those with whom she came in contact with, she had from the...
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Antonio Grilo
amg@...
Feb 2, 2000 5:54 pm
Salvete Luci et al ... We obvously do not =), at least not as much as you think. ... Right. So, Greeks also influenced Her. At least, Greek presence in...
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Lucius
vergil@...
Feb 2, 2000 7:11 pm
Salvete ... On the point I'm making we do. ... southern ... Southern Italy is not ROME! It was part of the Roman Empire as it grew. Rome absorbed many deities...
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Nicolaus Moravius
n_moravius@...
Feb 2, 2000 7:28 pm
Salvete! ... - It may interest you to know that Apollo and Artemis are considered to be later Asian imports to the Greek pantheon, as neither appears in the ...
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Antonio Grilo
amg@...
Feb 2, 2000 7:29 pm
Salvete Luci et al ... Rome ... No, no, no. I don't mean that. Southern italian states have influenced Rome long before Rome conquered them. Dionysus, Demeter,...
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Antonio Grilo
amg@...
Feb 2, 2000 7:38 pm
Salve Moravi Vado et al Interesting that about Apollo and Artemis. In fact both Ianus and Diana are definetely native Roman. The Greek pantheon has no...
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RMerullo
rmerullo@...
Feb 2, 2000 9:39 pm
Salvete Luci Equiti et alii ... Yes, I agree. Yahweh is Allah is Jehovah. This assertion, if it is relevant at all, supports Graecus' assertion that Ares is...
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Lucius
vergil@...
Feb 2, 2000 10:22 pm
Salvete, ... still ... Rome ... This is funny! Gee, maybe the Romans had *some* influence on southern Italy, ya think? (I can digress with the best of them) I...
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Nicolaus Moravius
n_moravius@...
Feb 2, 2000 10:33 pm
... Respondeo: And I go into Catholic churches to do the same. That doesn't make me a syncretist, just a pragmatist (id est, a temple is a temple). Pace...
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Nicolaus Moravius
n_moravius@...
Feb 2, 2000 10:48 pm
Salutem! Agreed, Grylle Graece. Athena and Minerva have to be the same if the legend of Aeneas' rescue of the Palladium from Troy to Alba Longa, and eventually...
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JSA
varromurena@...
Feb 2, 2000 10:52 pm
... Its quite well established the influence that the Samnites and Apulians and Magna Graecians had on Rome and the Central Italian states from at least the...
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Flamina Iunonis
ivno@...
Feb 2, 2000 11:22 pm
Salvete, To who it may concern. http://famromo.wiccan.net/templum Pax vobiscum, Amethystia Iunia Crystallina Materna Flaminia Iunois AIM=MeakerFamily ...
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Gaius Marius Merullus
rmerullo@...
Feb 3, 2000 2:41 am
Salvete Luci Licini et alii Not to dispute your assertion about Minerva, but can you provide a specific reference there? I have read vol. 1 and am on vol. 2...
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Lucius
vergil@...
Feb 3, 2000 5:09 am
Salvete, The whole point of this agument is that (and I may have misunderstood) Graecus says the the Roman Gods are the Greek Gods. I say they are not the ...
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Antonio Grilo
amg@...
Feb 3, 2000 11:28 am
Salvete Luci et al Luci, why are you so affraid of influence and import? Influence does not mean a rejection of roots. It just means an adoption and...
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Nicolaus Moravius
n_moravius@...
Feb 3, 2000 1:39 pm
Salve, Merulle et alii... ... - didn't die out, Merulle, any more than a cuckoo's siblings in the nest do. 'Killed' is the word. The Religio Romana was...
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Lucius
vergil@...
Feb 3, 2000 6:08 pm
Salvete, ... Fear has nothing to do with it. All I'm saying is that the Romans had their own religion before they were 'influenced' by the Greeks. I could ask...
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JSA
varromurena@...
Feb 3, 2000 7:02 pm
... I believe it is in Vol. 2, which I no longer have at hand, having returned it to the library. I remember it because, for me, this was striking new...
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JSA
varromurena@...
Feb 3, 2000 7:28 pm
... The question is at what period did the influence run, and in which way. Clearly, after the 2d Punic war, the influence was running from Rome to the rest of...
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Antonio Grilo
amg@...
Feb 4, 2000 10:38 am
Salvete Luci et al ... I do not deny that. Nevertheless, in the late Republican era, that influence had already taken its toll. ... That's because Rome was so...
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Antonio Grilo
amg@...
Feb 4, 2000 10:49 am
Salvete ... I meant after romanisation. But that native God name I cannot remember was the Celtiberian name of Celtiberian image of Iuppiter =). Valete ...
