Im going to see the Shaolin Monks tonight in Brisbane ... cant wait! Thought I would send the link along as I know a few of you are into martial arts .. its an...
well it was AWESOME !!! I thoroughly enjoyed it and deeply appreciated the skills and energy that were put on display. It started off quietly and progressed...
What can I say to get Dan on a roll. He never speaks unless it is immediately pertaining to Realization. How anyone could ever find anything to say about...
Hi Jill Jewell -- Nice to hear from you. Realization is a word, a toy, that people like to throw around and play with, sometimes enthusiastically, sometimes...
... Well how about transformation?Is there a wish to be transformed? If not a wish or desire to be enlightened which is simply 3rd state self reflective self...
Transformation turns something into something else. Realization doesn't change something into something else. All somethings drop because they never have been....
Transformation turns something into something else. yep! Realization doesn't change something into something else. Eventually it might. All somethings drop...
Dear Alan, ... Haha, I like the phrase "extreme high octane non-dual" etc. :) It seems impossible because we imagine such an event as the familiar "I"...
... "I" am not transformed. "I" never have been - nor any "I" -- nor any position for belief. ... Nope. You're talking about time, not that which doesn't...
Getting high on intellectualism? Dennis ... __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up...
... Did something about the conversation rub you the wrong way? Rob ... From: "Dennis Trainor" <dent16353@...> To: <Realization@yahoogroups.com> Sent:...
Dear Rob, I'm really trying not to get sucked into this. It is a topic I am partial to but I've already done a lot of this kind of intellectualism and I don't...
Dear Dennis, Well, I'll just say that Dan's remarks didn't strike me that way. He was saying that realization isn't a matter of changing yourself. You're...
Seems to me that Dan's message basically boils down to something like: realization is dropping everything. Dropping everything includes dropping thought. Is...
Hi Judi, ... I think we'd have to define "thought" pretty carefully before we get very far with this conversation. By the way, what happens when you go to...
Dear Rob, Your question is a trap. It can't be answered without intellectualizing. We'd just go round and round in circles. Lets see if I can break the...
Yeah we try to end suffering and that's the idea..There are 2 ways to go about this . 1) unaware 2) slightly aware -- Dan Are you saying...being aware of...
... You're assuming someone is trying to get somewhere and have some kind of experience. You're assuming something isn't right with being in an airplane and...
... Hi Rob -- I like what you're saying above -- stands on its own -- doesn't have to be taken as an "explanation" of what I said. Explanations aren't worth...
... No, Dennis -- but perhaps that's because you're intellectualizing about it :-) The only reason "nothing" is offered, is because people tend to mistake...
... Well, Alan actually said the words you gave above. Yes, "this" is not an experience, and not something else which is other than an experience. The seer,...
Dear Dan, This post is going in a good direction. Dennis ... __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful....
Dear Dan, This post is not going in a good direction. Dennis ... __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful....
Having problems with message search?
Fill out this form to ensure your group is one of the first to be migrated to the new message search system.
