Reply to Venzke & Gilmour about Social Utility Gilmour & Venzke have again expressed the opinion that Social Utility is merely yet another voting system...
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James Gilmour
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Dec 3, 2005 6:47 pm
... Smith tries an old debating trick of attributing to me many things I have never said. And he fails to address the main that was made. I don't get hung up...
... I have never said. And he fails to address the main ... certainly have no concern about monotonicity in public ... --if so, so that we have no debate,...
... No. James Gilmour was talking purely about the power of votes cast by voters. No-one was making the absurd suggestion that non-voters should have as strong...
... What is being asserted, essentially, is that voters votes should all have the same weight. Voters may now generally give their votes a weight of one, it...
... --Are you seriously contending that voters will not "understand" the strategic fact that the range-voting system causes numerically larger votes to have...
... Those that are interested in strategy and think about it, probably will. ... Not many. Some might object that voting strategy and the mechanics of how the...
http://math.temple.edu/~wds/crv/PuzzlePage.html currently contains 11 interesting puzzles related to voting. Puzzles range from easy to difficult and in fact...
December 8, 2005 New York Times Editorial Democrats Peer Ahead Searching for their lost mojo, Democratic Party leaders are preparing to fiddle with the ...
And CRV seems too small too late to have any effect on it - failure looming ... The Dems are meeting today (sat dec 10) at 10am Eastern Time, and their meeting...
Hi, Warren encouraged me to join this group, even though I am more than a bit skeptical about Range voting. I am hoping that others here would like to address...
... --WDS: This is a valid criticism, however it is less simple than you make it appear and it cuts both ways. [First of all, I thought you were the one...
I'd like to step back a bit and disagree entirely. What casues partisanship is single member electorates. A second contributing cause is the fact that single...
... I agree. But you didn't mention condorcet, nor approval. In both cases, I don't think it is true. I did my best to explain why parties form under...
... Let me clarify. I think that given a choice between voting strategically, and voting sincerely, some people will do one and some another. It is hard to...
On the CRV home page http://math.temple.edu/~wds/crv if you click "audio/visual files" you will reach http://math.temple.edu/~wds/crv/SoundFiles.html and Jan...
As a newbie, I hope you will forgive me if I discuss things that have been discussed in the past. I am devastated to read of Michael Ossipoff's retirement. I...
Of course if we are going to choose an electoral method we need to have some criteria. We hope that we can find criteria that are non-contradictory. Here are...
Let me reply to several messages at once. First of all, I am not sure what the definition of "partisanship" is that you all have in mind. If you mean...
Impossibility theorems such as Arrow's are reviewed by me in paper #79 at http://math.temple.edu/~wds/homepage/works.html Arrow's theorem has got a lot more...
... Well, if you think it useful to define your activities as "failure," by all means, go ahead. I think your original expectations may have been overblown....
... --well, your two criteria are a bit vague, i.e not susceptible to mathematical proof... although aside from that I like them... I think AV is simpler than...
... My personal view on this is that what actually matters is: the best voting system delivers winners which yield the highest average utility for society....
... Warren has a sometimes irritating habit of not addressing certain issues. However, he is working for a good cause, and his thinking brings in elements that...
... A point worth noting. Actually, what causes partisanship is *elections* of representatives. If there were no alternative, we might write it off as...
Can you provide some URLs where we can find out about qualcomm voting system? Floyd Norris recently wrote an interesting NY Times piece about corporate...
... You've asserted this, you have not shown it. In order to show it, you are going to need to state your assumptions as part of the demonstration. As I've...
Hi Carolyn I prefer Approval to Range on the simplicity factor, but not to Condorcet methods. At first you might think it Approval is simpler, and you are...
Let me add my own definition of simplicity: 1) voters can easily understand how to use the ballots 2) voters, given internal preferences as to feelings toward...
