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324 warren_d_smith31
warren_d_smi... Offline Send Email
Sep 1, 2005
1:45 pm
We need to recruit many new members (I would like to get over 1000) and get endorsements of range voting from all the main US third parties and a lot of...
325 Abd ulRahman Lomax
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Sep 1, 2005
6:49 pm
... No. Do not use automated mail techniques to send mail to substantial numbers of people without their consent. Each mail should be sent as a single piece,...
326 warren_d_smith31
warren_d_smi... Offline Send Email
Sep 1, 2005
8:53 pm
... --I do not know what this means. I can send a lot of mails as single mails. Does it mean "every email sent out should be perceptibly different in content"?...
327 Abd ulRahman Lomax
abdlomax Offline Send Email
Sep 2, 2005
5:05 am
... Yes. It means that every mail *that is sent at the same time* should be different. Using email to send a bunch of form letters is asking to have your ISP...
328 Jan Kok
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Sep 2, 2005
7:40 am
... I agree with Abd. ... Yes, I agree. ... Yes. Whatever method we decide to propose, we should be able to sell it to some of our fellow voting reformers....
329 Rob LeGrand
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Sep 2, 2005
4:58 pm
... I am a close personal friend of Michael Badnarik; I worked as his campaign assistant and driver for the first part of his presidential campaign. He...
330 warren_d_smith31
warren_d_smi... Offline Send Email
Sep 2, 2005
7:22 pm
... Well good. WHAT I WANT FROM BADNARIK: 1. I want Badnarik to sign the CRV endorsement page, which he (and anybody - do it yourself please!) can either do...
331 Jan Kok
jankok5 Offline Send Email
Sep 2, 2005
7:35 pm
... What do you mean by "present this evidence to the election methods community"? ... The truth is, the noun "vote" is very general. It doesn't mean a whole...
332 Abd ulRahman Lomax
abdlomax Offline Send Email
Sep 2, 2005
7:44 pm
... This assumes that only one race is on a ballot, which I have *never* seen in the U.S. except for runoff elections. Normal practice here for hand-counting...
333 Abd ulRahman Lomax
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Sep 2, 2005
8:00 pm
... The process I have in mind is designed to maximize consensus. It does not guarantee it. Making "everyone* happy with a decision is difficult. But,...
334 warren_d_smith31
warren_d_smi... Offline Send Email
Sep 2, 2005
9:55 pm
http://www.lse.ac.uk/collections/VPP/VPPpdf_Wshop2/jflkvdscaen.pdf Approval Voting : An Experiment during the French 2002 Presidential Election Jean-Francois...
335 Abd ulRahman Lomax
abdlomax Offline Send Email
Sep 2, 2005
11:28 pm
... I mean here or on the Election Methods list. The latter is wider. There is a wider forum still, but less open to controversy, per se, but it can be used to...
336 warren_d_smith31
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Sep 3, 2005
9:22 am
I am now adding a web page to address this "nonlinearity bogeyman" at http://math.temple.edu/~wds/crv/NonlinBogey.html (Thanks for Lomax for bringing this to...
337 warren_d_smith31
warren_d_smi... Offline Send Email
Sep 3, 2005
2:48 pm
See if this makes your blood boil: http://math.temple.edu/~wds/crv/NewOrleansBudget.html...
338 Abd ulRahman Lomax
abdlomax Offline Send Email
Sep 4, 2005
6:38 am
... Thanks for the credit. However, the response there does not really address the crucial issue. First of all, no claim was made that range "votes" were...
339 warren_d_smith31
warren_d_smi... Offline Send Email
Sep 4, 2005
9:57 pm
I have written a short essay on that and it is now part of the CRV web site as http://math.temple.edu/~wds/crv/Complexity.html...
340 warren_d_smith31
warren_d_smi... Offline Send Email
Sep 5, 2005
4:41 pm
... --I do not yet comprehend Lomax's latest round of objections, but a quick reply is that this claim is false - blanks in approval are blanks and nos are nos...
341 Abd ulRahman Lomax
abdlomax Offline Send Email
Sep 5, 2005
9:57 pm
... First of all, the comments about blanks were parenthetical. The central issue is how Range "Votes" are compared with Approval Votes. The question about...
342 wds@...
warren_d_smi... Offline Send Email
Sep 6, 2005
1:20 am
yes, the approval voting we used was 3-values (0, 1, blank) and would indeed require a different ballot than the pluarlity-checkbox type ballot Lomax has in...
343 Abd ulRahman Lomax
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Sep 6, 2005
2:56 am
I'm going to start introducing motions for consideration. As a discussion list, we could go on forever without finding full agreement. But CRV was founded to...
344 Abd ulRahman Lomax
abdlomax Offline Send Email
Sep 6, 2005
3:18 am
I move that this list, functioning as an advisory group, elect a chair to facilitate decision-making process. For the purpose of making a decision on this...
345 Jan Kok
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Sep 6, 2005
3:32 am
I second the motion stated below. - Jan...
346 Abd ulRahman Lomax
abdlomax Offline Send Email
Sep 6, 2005
3:59 am
... For a number of study purposes, that's fine. But it's not Approval as understood by most. I'd suggest that if any voter expressed an approval opinion for...
347 Jan Kok
jankok5 Offline Send Email
Sep 6, 2005
4:15 am
... Abd, Debian.org I believe has some fairly elaborate rules for on-line decision making related to program development and project management (electing...
348 Abd ulRahman Lomax
abdlomax Offline Send Email
Sep 6, 2005
4:38 am
... I request that no arguments be presented in favor of the motion until and unless an argument is presented against it. If there are no arguments against the...
349 Jan Kok
jankok5 Offline Send Email
Sep 6, 2005
5:12 am
... Since I seconded the motion in my previous message, I guess I could have begun discussion within that message as well. I have some questions: Can we begin...
350 Anthony Duff
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Sep 6, 2005
7:01 am
It's hard to know what most people understand, and apparently your understanding is supported by the wiki, but it is my understanding/memory that approval was...
351 wds@...
warren_d_smi... Offline Send Email
Sep 6, 2005
2:10 pm
well, Lomax is again revealing how little he read the paper abotu the range & approval poll. I can hardly go into the details here, but most of what he just...
352 wds@...
warren_d_smi... Offline Send Email
Sep 6, 2005
2:14 pm
we can "practice what we preach" by using range voting for CRV decisions, because yahoo has a "polls" feature which can be set to use either plurality or...
353 warren_d_smith31
warren_d_smi... Offline Send Email
Sep 6, 2005
2:35 pm
Any RV email list member should be able to set up a "poll". This post discusses how to do that. You click "polls" on the RV email list front page ...
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