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2938
If you only clone a candidate ONCE (and not twice or more) then Simmons is Cloneproof. ... And Benham remarks (and I agree): So Simmons meets Clone-Loser, but...
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actually, Simmons is NOT a Condorcet method at all, in the sense that it is entirely possible for a unique Condorcet winner W to exist, but Simmons does not...
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... Does this not hint at a solution? From voter behavior with clones, one could conclude, presumably, that they *are* clones and treat them specially, perhaps...
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... The holy grail seems to be a method that duplicates what full deliberative process would do in a direct democracy (functioning optimally; direct democracy...
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At 10:36 PM 12/31/2006, CLAY S wrote: [this was not a message from Clay, but apparently a message *to* Clay from Lea Barker.) ... Lea erred, I think. Clay had...
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... But as I've pointed out many times, "majoritarianism" is arbitrary. What's so special about 50% ? Why not say 51.453% ? How about 62.4% ? ... Yes, a 50%...
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... Yes, Clay has "asserted" this many times. He says "pointed out," as if it is a thing which can be seen by anyone. *Any* standard has some level of...
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Jan 3, 2007
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2945
... I gather that that was suggested just to help guard against fraudulent ballot tampering. Chris Benham...
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2946
Well now, this is interesting.: http://www.groupdecision.com/ElectoralSystems.asp?range [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
CLAY S
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... This is the same logic as supporting approval as range-2 first. It is often very hard to explain voting methods to people. I think people need to a)...
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... This is exactly what I'm arguing. Indeed, I am arguing that we should start with basic, plain-vanilla Approval, though possibly with the No option added....
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2949
... Yes. It is an effective method of doing this, that leaves it up to the voter to add that protection. It is also possible to use the No votes. Where there...
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... I think we effectively already do this. I always explain range voting to people without going on about abstention. That's something I talk about once...
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... Clay should notice that it was written "best intro." Not best Range method. The reason for starting with something less than what is ideal is that the...
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http://rangevoting.org/IEVS/IEVS.c This is a 2130-line C program by Warren D. Smith. It computes Bayesian Regret values of whatver single-winner voting systems...
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... VSR ? ... I think that is a fight not worth fighting, if you can convince someone to implement "average approval", then you can likely already get them to...
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... I think that this is something like "Voter Satisfaction Ratio." Clay might be correct, if we accept the results of Warren's simulations, but I don't see...
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NY Times 4 January 2007 U.S. Bars Lab From Testing Electronic Voting By CHRISTOPHER DREW A laboratory that has tested most of the nation's electronic voting ...
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http://www.siam.org/siamnews/10-00/consensus.htm Saari is memorably quoted as calling plurality "the only voting system that can elect somebody 2/3 ofthe...
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U.S. Bars Lab From Testing Electronic Voting By CHRISTOPHER ...
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From the piece, it occurred to me to comment on something, Warren has also written about this elsewhere. ... Warren has stated that Arrow's theorem does not...
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Jan 5, 2007
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2959
With 1258 people having participated in my online 2008 Presidential poll, using range voting, I present the current results, especially to illustrate how...
CLAY S
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... From: J Kefalas <jkefalashd52@...> Date: Jan 4, 2007 8:01 PM Subject: Re: Adam Brandon: We can do better than IRV To: CLAY S...
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http://rangevoting.org/2008.html PRETTY COLORS!!!...
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Check out the second external link -- although I don't know how long this will stay up. ...
CLAY S
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2963
This is funny: Colin Powell : 2.75 John Edwards : 2.75 Rudy Giuliani : 2.5 Howard Dean : 2.5 Hillary Clinton :...
CLAY S
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... I'm probably going to point this out whenever it is mentioned, but Range Polls create a different kind of number than vote percentages in an election...
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Thanks for the URL - There were recent references to the problem. While what is said below about Borda is true for many methods. BUT, WHAT is it. What I read...
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... poll, ... illustrate ... voting. ... No we don't. Range voting doesn't use an approval cutoff. Range voting produces better results for third party...
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... Let me point out that this, to those who study election methods, could function almost like a brick wall. It could in some ways be more frustrating than no...
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