PPP's first post election national poll (13-15 Nov 2012) finds that 49% of republicans agree with the latter choice of QUESTION: Do you think that Barack Obama...
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Michael Ellis
michaelf.ellis
Dec 5, 2012 2:17 am
Ummm, Warren, I think it's called a push poll and a pretty blatant one at that since ACORN, a name scarcely mentioned in this election cycle, was the subject...
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WarrenS
warren_d_smi...
Dec 5, 2012 2:51 am
Freedomworks is a fake-grassroots political "tea party" conservative "reform" group set up by the ultrarich Koch brothers and also attracts megabuck donations...
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WarrenS
warren_d_smi...
Dec 5, 2012 3:00 am
... --I gave the exact verbatim wording of the poll question. I also gave the entire poll (all questions, exact wording and exact results) by hyperlink. What...
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WarrenS
warren_d_smi...
Dec 5, 2012 3:00 am
... --I gave the exact verbatim wording of the poll question. I also gave the entire poll (all questions, exact wording and exact results) by hyperlink. What...
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WarrenS
warren_d_smi...
Dec 5, 2012 3:09 am
...except I gave the wrong hyperlink. Here is the correct hyperlink to the poll (the one I gave was instead to the previous election's poll!) ...
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Debbie Shapiro
starxedluv
Dec 5, 2012 4:02 am
A "push poll" only means that the information was fed to the poll recipient, rather than open ended. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Push_poll Not sure why you're...
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Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
abdlomax
Dec 5, 2012 4:17 am
That poll was announced in 2009, and the Acorn questions were about 2008. Warren, Check it out. Sent from my iPhone...
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jimrtex4192
Dec 5, 2012 6:15 pm
... It was an inanely worded question: "Do you think that Barack Obama legitimately won the Presidential election this year, or do you think that ACORN stole...
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Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
abdlomax
Dec 5, 2012 6:34 pm
... This poll and the analysis is really weird. The related poll questions were: http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_National_1204.pdf ... ...
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Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
abdlomax
Dec 5, 2012 7:06 pm
... Well, the poll did feed information (naming Acorn as a suspect). However, I see little or no sign that the poll was a "push poll" as ... Rather, it looks...
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Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
abdlomax
Dec 5, 2012 7:07 pm
... I check my mail in batches for spam filtering purposes, and my response crossed Warren's correction....
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Dale Sheldon-Hess
mudlock_relic
Dec 5, 2012 7:10 pm
... The poll question was used in 2009, yes, but it was also used last week. Warren linked to the 2009 poll (simple mistake, as it was the first link provided...
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Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
abdlomax
Dec 6, 2012 2:58 pm
... A point I made. On the phone, as well, a respondent might not hear an unfamiliar name clearly. "Acorn? What? Ahearn? Who? Well, it was illegitimate, so...
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Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
abdlomax
Dec 6, 2012 3:33 pm
... Warren, this is embarrassing. The poll obviously asked leading questions, suckering respondents into giving nutso responses. Or joke responses, is another...
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Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
abdlomax
Dec 6, 2012 5:46 pm
... Well, "inane" implies that they didn't know what they were doing. It's quite likely that they did, that they were aiming for more publicity about the...
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WarrenS
warren_d_smi...
Dec 6, 2012 8:05 pm
On Thursday morning GOP Senate minority leader Mitch McConnell had made a motion for the vote on legislation that would let the president extend the country's...
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WarrenS
warren_d_smi...
Dec 6, 2012 8:12 pm
Questions like "Do you support or oppose the Panetta-Burns plan? Support........................................................... 8% Oppose...
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Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
abdlomax
Dec 7, 2012 4:02 am
... Or they are simply human. People not highly interested in politics, suckered into answering a question, not asked if they actually know anything about it,...
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Michael Ellis
michaelf.ellis
Dec 7, 2012 3:09 pm
Abd, In fairness to Warren, the second quote ... responded ... was mine. I wrote it, in part, to try (obviously unsuccessfully) to soften the criticism I...
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Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
abdlomax
Dec 7, 2012 5:04 pm
... Well, obviously, I lost that context, though it was plain in Warren's original post (the quote >s showed that). I'm not sure it mattered, because you were...
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Dale Sheldon-Hess
mudlock_relic
Dec 7, 2012 7:16 pm
... Page 1: "This poll was not paid for or authorized by any campaign or political organization." This is PPP's own poll. ... PPP's average error was better...
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jimrtex4192
Dec 8, 2012 6:36 pm
... PPP is explicitly labeled as Democratic leaning on Real Clear Politics, because their polls tend to be more Democratic, and the Democratic leanings of its...
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Dale Sheldon-Hess
mudlock_relic
Dec 8, 2012 9:24 pm
... major clients are Daily Kos and D campaigns, but their numbers are generally quite good. ... Yes. -- Dale [Non-text portions of this message have been...
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WarrenS
warren_d_smi...
Dec 15, 2012 6:08 am
In the wake of the latest mass murder by gun, this time mainly of children in an elementary school in Newtown CT yesterday -- apparently 20 children plus 6 or...
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Steve Hayashi
sthayashi
Dec 15, 2012 10:46 am
Hi, Long time listener, first time caller. The classic example used to argue against Gun Free Zones in schools is the Pearl High School Shootings...
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Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
abdlomax
Dec 15, 2012 5:16 pm
... Believe them both. When debates get polarized like this, the sides are each presenting what they think is convincing evidence. Controversial issues are...
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WarrenS
warren_d_smi...
Dec 15, 2012 7:36 pm
... --I did read that book, but a long time ago. John Lott had some interesting things to say. However, it later was found that he had fabricated entire fake...
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Florian Lengyel
f_lengyel
Dec 15, 2012 7:55 pm
... control will work overnight. It may take 30 years, it may need no-questions-asked gun surrender incentives and a host of other measures, but it will leave...
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WarrenS
warren_d_smi...
Dec 15, 2012 10:17 pm
... --Indeed, from my vague recollection of Lott's book "More guns less crime" and my recent read of Hemenway's paper, their two "opposed" views are not...
