Warren Smith posted (24 Aug 2010) a link to page discussing a simple IRV election: 18: A>B>C 24: B>C>A 15: C>A>B ... That verdict might be justified on...
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jackkelshallrudd@...
jackrudd
Sep 2, 2010 7:34 pm
... this ... to ... No - you've picked two different values for Y. Using any values for X, Y and Z satisfying Warren's constraints: A scores 18X + 15Y + 24Z B...
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cbenhamau
Sep 2, 2010 7:46 pm
What does the phrase "not all equal" refer to then? Chris Benham...
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Dale Sheldon-Hess
mudlock_relic
Sep 2, 2010 7:59 pm
To the values of X, Y, and Z (because then the election would be a three-way tie.) You use the SAME value of X, Y, and Z for every voter, but the values you...
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jackkelshallrudd@...
jackrudd
Sep 2, 2010 8:00 pm
... Not all equal to each other. (If X = Y = Z, there's no way to meaningfully determine a winner.) -- Jack Rudd...
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Juho
juho4880
Sep 2, 2010 8:14 pm
The "not all equal" problem was already covered (in both mailing lists). I wonder also what do words "easy call" mean. Score does not force all voters to use...
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jimrtex4192
Sep 3, 2010 10:49 pm
Utah lets political parties select replacements to fill legislative vacancies. Technically, they nominate candidates who the governor then appoints to fill...
http://nationalconversationforengland.wordpress.com/2010/03/29/pv-an-electoral-wildcard/#comment-862 he (roughly speaking) proposes adding a new rule to range...
The best part of this post is this table: Criterion FPTP AV AppV Does every vote count? 3 2 3 Is the system proportional? 1 2 2 Does the system foster...
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Jameson Quinn
homunq
Sep 5, 2010 2:35 am
By my reckoning, adding Range and no-runoff MCA (simple two-rank Bucklin) to this table of criteria: (small text explains any differences from Approval) ...
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Joyce McCloy
ncverifiable...
Sep 5, 2010 4:09 am
I know of the case in Ann Arbor Michigan, where Albert H Wheeler (D) became the city's first African American mayor, serving from 1975 to 1978. Wheeler won by...
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WarrenS
warren_d_smi...
Sep 5, 2010 11:50 am
... --we already have such a table, see http://rangevoting.org/CompChart.html However, I like what that guy is doing too, we could add his table too... the ...
... Well, clearly he is in England, as opposed to Scotland, Wales, or Northern Ireland. And it looks as if the only way to reach him is to post on one of his...
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Jameson Quinn
homunq
Sep 5, 2010 1:56 pm
Actually, it's more of a Bucklin/Range hybrid. It has several gratuitous complexities which, IMO, make it strictly worse than either Bucklin or Range; but on...
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jimrtex4192
Sep 5, 2010 1:59 pm
There have been blacks elected to the board of supervisors in SF, and the city council in Minneapolis, but I don't think either was because of IRV. IIRC, there...
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Bruce Gilson
brg1942
Sep 5, 2010 2:27 pm
... Can you go into the details as to what these "gratuitous complexities which ... make it strictly worse than either Bucklin or Range" are in your opinion? ...
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Chris Telesca
cjtelesca
Sep 5, 2010 2:38 pm
So far I haven't seen any information to support the claim that IRV has helped African American candidates. I attended a legislative committee or subcommittee...
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Jameson Quinn
homunq
Sep 5, 2010 3:39 pm
Here's my latest Bucklin variant, which, pending the results of the naming poll <http://betterpolls.com/do/1189>, I'm calling RMCA (because of the catchy...
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Jameson Quinn
homunq
Sep 5, 2010 3:54 pm
... 1. As described, his system allows a voter to give their favorite candidate(s) a below-maximum rank, yet still have such a favorite counted in the first,...
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Jameson Quinn
homunq
Sep 5, 2010 4:21 pm
... Oops, that's not quite true as stated. Consider the prototypical cycle, with no acyclic or anticyclic ballots. Candidates A, B, and C, numbers of each vote...
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Jameson Quinn
homunq
Sep 5, 2010 5:11 pm
... Again I looked more deeply at an unproven claim I'd made; and again, RMCA came out even better than I thought. Somebody pinch me; I had given up on finding...
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WarrenS
warren_d_smi...
Sep 5, 2010 10:44 pm
... --yeah, I've noticed that kind of pattern a lot. At some public forum, politician says "i'll be happy to provide" or holds up papers and says "these...
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Joyce McCloy
ncverifiable...
Sep 6, 2010 2:39 pm
Kathy Dopp pointed out to me that while NC asks voters to rank 3 choices, but will the third choice ever be counted? Funny if they ranked 3 for no reason at...
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Chris Telesca
cjtelesca
Sep 6, 2010 4:04 pm
That's the reason why I keep reminding Rep. Bryant about Earls' promise in 2008. When we try to kill IRV in 2011 (as I know will happen after this train...
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WarrenS
warren_d_smi...
Sep 6, 2010 5:16 pm
I don't have any evidence, but... it seems logical that IRV would actually help MAJorities. The intent with IRV (vs plain plurality voting) was to try to help...
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douggreene@...
douglassgreene
Sep 7, 2010 2:19 am
The smartest woman in the world doesn't get voting systems. http://www.parade.com/askmarilyn/2010/09/Sundays-Column-09-05-10.html ... This message was sent by...
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brokenladdercalendar
brokenladder...
Sep 7, 2010 7:17 am
I've read lots of her posts in the past that made me think she was an idiot. No big surprise here....
