Joe seems to be interested in achieving two targets (and these targets only) - ability to vote sincerely - ability to vote for a third party The only methods...
... That's what I thought. In my opinion, this is one of the great PR problems RV advocates need to resolve to get RV beyond a theory. I was about to explain...
A while back we were talking about what is politically possible? Please assume a bunch of RV supporters got their act together to form a 501(c)3 and came to...
Here is a lemma about Condorcet which, I believe captures an important feature. Let X and Y, be adjacently ranked candidates. Let V be ANY candidate (including...
... This set-up was for Joe's needs and somewhat biased (since Range problems were addressed but not those of IRV). But on the other hand Joe's problems were...
Aren't all these challenges the same for the promoters of all new methods? If so, then the difference between different methods could lie in their different...
The comparison is not very balanced since the chosen example is problematic to IRV but relatively easy to AV and SV. ... Why do you assume that the sincere...
... --Actually, you do not need adjacency of X,Y; all you need is the weaker demand that X,Y both are ranked above, or both below, Z by every voter. (But the...
... Of course. ... Of course. I realize marketability may not matter to philosophers but it is vital to activists. Got any ideas for Group 3 or Group 4 sub...
... Classification "die hard" doesn't leave much space for variation. Maybe some aim at building a good society based on all the opinions in the society while...
... I don't see any big Condorcet problems here. For computers this is no problem. (Plurality is not even k (per vote). IRV is not computationally more complex...
Dear Stephen Unger, ... In so far as a Condorcet ballot cannot contain more information than a range voting ballot, counting a Condorcet ballot cannot take...
... --nonsense. The "amount of information" has nothing whatever necessarily to do with the computational runtime complexity. For example, the "amount of...
The offered temptation is irresistible, though I suspect both authors would reject this quality of work if done by others. ... Apparently thinking of quantity...
... ....... I didn't state the lemma properly. My intent was to say that changing the relationship between two adjacent candidates on any one ballot, does not...
... ........ Before mapping out a strategy for ENACTING election reform, I would like to make sure we are advocating the best reform. So let's keep the ...
... The example is based on input from Gilson (or was it Rudd). It seems like a strange rejoinder to say that the example is unfair because it makes IRV, but...
... The example is good and fair but using only this example when comparing the methods would not be a balanced approach. A balanced approach would be e.g. to...
... How about the following algorithm. 1) collect votes in a table with one pointer for each vote 2) the pointer points out the most preferred non-eliminated...
... supporters ... there ... That seems reasonable, Doc. To answer your question, IRV's majority, as I understand it, means a 50%+1 majority of the ballots...
... Don't be so sure of this. I look at people like myself. I probably would be characterized as a "die-hard Republican" by most people's lights. But anything...
... They were. This was a real example, only simplified by leaving out some of the other candidates. ... Correct. ... And you've shown one of the problems with...
... Loooking at what you wrote, I think it certainly made IRV look bad, but I think it also made AV look pretty bad -- ok, not quite AS bad as IRV, because it...
... While Clay and I differ on a lot of things, I certainly agree with the forst part of the last paragraph; the problem I have with IRV's nonmonotonicity is...
... process that could easily have turned out differently! Bruce, I'm curious how you (and anyone else) feel about strategic voting, per se. Is it a curse?...
... I agree completely. Also, some individuals who are prominent in IRV circles (and who asked not to be named) have expressed similar sentiments to me in...
... Speaking for myself *only* and with no pretense of reflecting anyone else's feelings: 1. I would prefer that I could always vote sincerely. This is one...
