Mark, I appreciated your response back to mine. You have given me something to think through. I will get back to you with some further thoughts on what you...
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Danny Faulkner
faulkner@...
Feb 1, 2002 12:54 pm
Gromit, how can truth be absolute you ask? The proposition that truth is not absolute is an absurdity. Be definition truth is truth. Many people equivicate...
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Mark Whorton
mark.whorton@...
Feb 1, 2002 2:09 pm
Hi Allen, First, thanks for your gracious spirit and I am enjoying your "iron" sharpening "my iron." You were probably correct (I think it was you that said...
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kurt_streutker
Feb 1, 2002 2:29 pm
VR: Since God can and does create with functional and mature (i.e. Functional maturity). How can OEC's take the idea that God created the heavens and the earth...
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kurt_streutker
Feb 1, 2002 2:44 pm
GROMIT asks, "How can truth be absolute? How can we resolve this matter?" (Doesn't the question itself presuppose that there is objective, absolute truth?) ...
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Don Markle
dmarkle120
Feb 1, 2002 3:38 pm
Gromit...even if you say there is no absolute truth...it is a truth statement. I would simply ask is it true for everyone that there is no absolute truth to...
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Kyle Witten
apologetics_...
Feb 1, 2002 4:53 pm
Kurt, thank you for catching my error. When I was rereading my original post a few minutes ago something didn't seem quite right about it. As I reread it a...
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Danny Faulkner
faulkner@...
Feb 1, 2002 5:12 pm
VR, isn't being called the leading YEC expert in astronomy sort of like drawing the community chest card in a monopoly game that says "You have won second...
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gromit54609
Feb 1, 2002 5:26 pm
... That my argument is that there is not such thing as absolute truth. ... So it's a purely theoretical concept? ... So how do we determine which...
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Don Markle
dmarkle120
Feb 1, 2002 5:33 pm
Gromit, And you are absolutely sure about that right? Don gromit54609 <gromit54609@...> wrote: --- In RTB_Discussion_Group@y..., "kurt_streutker" ... ...
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vr_junkie
Feb 1, 2002 6:19 pm
... But you at least admit somethings (if not most things) were created instantaneously by God (Psalms 33:9 For he spake, and it was done; he commanded, and...
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Mark Whorton
mark.whorton@...
Feb 1, 2002 6:33 pm
These rebuttals to appearance of age based on Adam being created adult are moot -- There was no one around to "observe" Adam and thus be deceived! It is...
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Mark Whorton
mark.whorton@...
Feb 1, 2002 6:41 pm
I did not mean that God didn't miraculously create plants -- what I meant is that not everything was necessarily created mature. The wording of Gen 2:8-9...
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Don Markle
dmarkle120
Feb 1, 2002 7:21 pm
Kurt I think the point VR is making is that the YEC creation miracle with the appearence of age argument seems like Jesus is leading us astray or make the...
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kurt_streutker
Feb 1, 2002 7:25 pm
Folks, MARK sez: "These rebuttals to appearance of age based on Adam being created are moot -- There was no one around to "observe" Adam and thus be...
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Mark Whorton
mark.whorton@...
Feb 1, 2002 7:41 pm
Kurt, look at what you said. You ask if God is speaking and if God is trustworthy. Show me where God says anything about creating a world that only appears...
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kurt_streutker
Feb 1, 2002 7:43 pm
Folks, Gromit is *absolutely* sure of himself here as he sez, "That my argument is that there is not such thing as absolute truth." Truth: It is not a matter...
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kurt_streutker
Feb 1, 2002 7:50 pm
I was not saying that God created the world looking or *only appears to be old.* I assert that God created with funtional maturity. I was dealing with a...
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vr_junkie
Feb 1, 2002 8:44 pm
... wrote: Danny, I used the term "leading YEC expert in astronomy" not to be demeaning - but an acknowledgement of your position in the YEC community....
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vr_junkie
Feb 1, 2002 9:21 pm
Group, Have you heard that the bristlecone pines are the oldest living organisms on earth? Have you heard of the creosote bush? Some are thought to be 11,000...
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archomai
Feb 1, 2002 10:30 pm
Praise the Lord! AiG is now openned the Creation information it has in Greek! See - http://www.answersingenesis.org/greek/ Coming from a Greek background,...
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archomai
Feb 1, 2002 10:41 pm
It isn't "Old looking, young Adam" but it should be a fully mature and functional, "young Adam". Anyway, Adam must have been able to speak. He must have had a...
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Richard Deem
saved_by_gra...
Feb 1, 2002 10:43 pm
Now, VR. You know that the date was determined by that flawed C-14 method. In fact, it is off so much that we know that the C-14 dates for all those ...
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kurt_streutker
Feb 2, 2002 3:24 am
Richard Deem: writes to, VR: "Now, VR. You know that the date was determined by that flawed C-14 method. In fact, it is off so much that we know that the C-14...
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kurt_streutker
Feb 2, 2002 3:32 am
Mark Whorton writes to Allen Dunckley: "This just doesn't make sense. I fail to see how your view or my view is "straight forward basis" while those in error...
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kurt_streutker
Feb 2, 2002 3:43 am
Gromit has now revealed that he believes that it's absolutely sure that there are no absolute truths. But then he's said: "Oh the smell of ad hominems in the...
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Dr Allen J Dunckley
drallen31
Feb 2, 2002 11:44 am
Greetings Kurt, You wrote, "I presume that AD is using "interpret" in the colloquial sense rather than the technical sense as above. So when AD is saying that...
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pimvanmeurs
pimvanmeurs@...
Feb 2, 2002 7:17 pm
... Isn't that begging the question? ... That's circular. How do we recognized the 'truth'? ... Seems perfectly logical to show that there is no absolute...
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gromit54609
Feb 2, 2002 7:29 pm
... How can one determine what the absolute truth is if the truth depends on one's interpretation of what is said or written? One can theorize that there is...
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gromit54609
Feb 2, 2002 7:35 pm
... I have said that I do not think that the concept has any meaning. We determine truth subjectively. ... There is nothing absolutely wrong but it has been...
