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#649 From: CrawfordSL@...
Date: Mon Jan 18, 2010 3:49 pm
Subject: Re: UC Score-O, US Team Fund Raiser CrawfordSL@...
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By the way, what is the date of this meet?

In a message dated 1/17/2010 9:57:21 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, bbrookemann@... writes:

Sounds fine -- maybe on the condition that the map gets updated by Leif in the process, so that RMOC gets something out of the deal, too. (There are already several huge new buildings completed or in progress since I updated the map two years ago...)

I'll send Leif the OCAD file when I'm home on Tuesday.

-- Sent from my Palm Prē

Bob Ellis wrote:

Dear RMOC policy people:

Leif Anderson is setting this event for us and would like it to be a fund raiser for the Sr. USOF Team. I agree, that we should donate the net receipts (after expenses). Comments solicited.

To get specific: There will not be e-punching so fees will be $8 (members), $12 (non-members). Memberships taken in at the meet will not be counted. Subtract the cost of map printing. The rest will be donated to the Sr USOF Team.

Bob;

#650 From: "Bob Ellis" <Bob_Ellis@...>
Date: Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:36 am
Subject: RE: UC Score-O, US Team Fund Raiser Bob_Ellis@...
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April 3

Bob

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Subject: Re: [RMOC-policy] UC Score-O, US Team Fund Raiser

By the way, what is the date of this meet?

In a message dated 1/17/2010 9:57:21 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, bbrookemann@... writes:

Sounds fine -- maybe on the condition that the map gets updated by Leif in the process, so that RMOC gets something out of the deal, too. (There are already several huge new buildings completed or in progress since I updated the map two years ago...)

I'll send Leif the OCAD file when I'm home on Tuesday.

-- Sent from my Palm Prē

Bob Ellis wrote:

Dear RMOC policy people:

Leif Anderson is setting this event for us and would like it to be a fund raiser for the Sr. USOF Team. I agree, that we should donate the net receipts (after expenses). Comments solicited.

To get specific: There will not be e-punching so fees will be $8 (members), $12 (non-members). Memberships taken in at the meet will not be counted. Subtract the cost of map printing. The rest will be donated to the Sr USOF Team.

Bob;

#651 From: Sherry <slitasi@...>
Date: Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:34 pm
Subject: Fw: Orienteering Club at USAFA slitasi
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fyi

Sherry Litasi

303-324-2305
www.bodyworkdynamics.com

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From: "Puleo, Anthony J Capt USAF USAFA USAFA/CWTM" <Anthony.Puleo@...>
To: Charles Ferguson <usofrnr@...>; "Mikeminium@..." <Mikeminium@...>; "turbyr300@..." <turbyr300@...>; Sherry <slitasi@...>; Clare Durand <claredurand@...>; "usofpresident@..." <usofpresident@...>
Sent: Mon, August 16, 2010 1:57:35 PM
Subject: RE: Orienteering Club at USAFA

All,

I just wanted to give you an update. We held our Blue Rush Club Day at the Academy on Saturday. I set up a table for Orienteering, consisting of the display provided by Sherry Litasi, a laptop running the O.mov video in repeat mode, a list of the last 10 champions and a picture of the USMA championship team (to ruffle feathers). I had the pamphlets and a sign-up sheet for those that were interested.

Club day in general was a success. We also had 16 Cadets interested enough in Orienteering to sign their names. The Director of Training Support (also in charge of Cadet Clubs) agreed that this was enough interest, coupled with your offers to support a club on USAFA, to put the feelers out and try to get a Club OIC.

I can guarantee nothing, but the ball is rolling towards starting an O-club here. We need an OIC, then all the paperwork, then a package will meet a review board, etc. One thing that was mentioned was having too many clubs already, but we’ll bridge that hurdle if/when it comes.

In the meantime, I will advertise for an OIC willing to put in the work to start a club and see where it goes from there. I will keep you posted as things progress.

If you have any questions or concerns, please don’t hesitate to contact me.

Thanks,

Capt Puleo

ANTHONY J. PULEO, Capt, USAF

Deputy Director, Support Division

USAFA/CWTM

2354 Fairchild Drive, suite 1J140

USAF Academy, CO 80840-6268

DSN: 333-6806

COMM: (719) 333-6806

CELL: (210) 383-0535

FAX: 333-2726

anthony.puleo@...

From: Charles Ferguson [mailto:usofrnr@...]
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 3:06 PM
To: Mikeminium@...
Cc: Puleo, Anthony J Capt USAF USAFA USAFA/CWTM; turbyr300@...
Subject: Re: Orienteering Club at USAFA

Mike,

Thank you for your offer. Can't wait to hear from Capt Puleo about how the day went.

Chuck

On Aug 15, 2010, at 7:42 AM, Mikeminium@... wrote:

Hi Capt Puleo,

I hope you got some interest in getting a team started at USAFA. In the future, feel free to contact me for additional information. I was out of the country for a couple weeks with lousy email access and just got your message today. But for the future, I can offer Orienteering USA's display board (a 3 panel tabletop display with a selection of photos, maps and info which can be tailored to a particular audience), and I can provide copies of our "Orienteeing: Sport of a Lifetime" brochure which provides a good introduction for beginners.

Let me know of your progress and how else I can help.

Mike Minium

New Club Support

Orienteering USA

In a message dated 8/10/2010 10:27:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, usofrnr@... writes:

Capt Puleo,

   Just got you email as I'm heading for the rack. I will be sure you have something for Saturday--as you can guess, I wish I had a bit more time, but let me get mobilized tomorrow. Might also be able to pull something off the internet...

   Have you ever orienteered?

   Thank you for your interest!

Col F

On Aug 10, 2010, at 4:12 PM, Puleo, Anthony J Capt USAF USAFA USAFA/CWTM wrote:

Sir,

Ms Clare Durand wrote a letter to Gen Gould in mid July regarding an Orienteering Team at the Air Force Academy (attached). I work in the Commandant’s Support Division. One of our charters is Cadet Clubs. I’ve been asked to gauge cadet interest in a competitive Orienteering Club.

Blue Rush (our club day) is this Saturday and I will be setting up a table for Orienteering. I’d like to have a basic presentation w/pictures to display on the table along with a pad for interested cadets to sign.

I tried to contact Ms Durand via phone and email, but was unsuccessful. If you could provide info about Orienteering and maybe some pictures that might interest cadets, I’d really appreciate it.

If you have any questions/concerns, please don’t hesitate to contact me.

Thank you,
Capt Puleo

ANTHONY J. PULEO, Capt, USAF

Deputy Director, Support Division

USAFA/CWTM

2354 Fairchild Drive, suite 1J140

USAF Academy, CO 80840-6268

DSN: 333-6806

COMM: (719) 333-6806

CELL: (210) 383-0535

FAX: 333-2726

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#652 From: "Bob Ellis" <Bob_Ellis@...>
Date: Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:33 pm
Subject: Annual meeting change of date. Now, Sat Nov 20. Bob_Ellis@...
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Due to conflicts with REI Denver our annual meeting date will be Nov 20 (not Nov 14th as on our current schedule). It will be at 12:00 with lunch provided, and attenders encouraged to bring some treats too.

Brian: Can you check to see what we ordered from Bennet's BBQ last year and let me know? Thanks

Bob

#653 From: "Bob Ellis" <Bob_Ellis@...>
Date: Mon Aug 30, 2010 4:02 pm
Subject: Skype Meeting Sept 7, 7:00PM Bob_Ellis@...
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We have a bunch of stuff to discuss:

Fall schedule

Permenent Courses

Air Force Academy club/team

2011 Rogaine

Review of A-Meet

Ideas from Leif Anderson for A-Meets

2011 Calendar

Let me know of other topics.

Bob

Please send me your Skype Name so I can add you to the list if you plan to attend.

#654 From: Bob <Bob_Ellis@...>
Date: Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:33 am
Subject: A couple of purchase suggestions: Bob_Ellis@...
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1.  I think we need another 20 epunches  @$38*20  $720.  Maybe not what
do you all think.

2.  We need more whistles to sell (and or maybe give to deserving
individuals too.)
      Possibilities:
          a)  100 for $50
          b)  250 for $100
          c)  250 custom designed with our club name (maybe logo)  $184
(including design cost).

Thanks for you input and preference.

Bob

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#655 From: "B. Brooke Mann" <bbrookemann@...>
Date: Sun Apr 24, 2011 4:57 am
Subject: Re: A couple of purchase suggestions: bbrookemann71
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We had ~150 starts today at Fox Run and ~114 starts at BCLP a few weeks ago. I know we briefly ran out of finger sticks at BCLP; not sure how it went today, since I wasn't working at the Registration table.

I suspect our attendance numbers will drop a bit when the CSOL series is over. But, it's still probably a good idea to buy extra finger sticks anyway since I assume we'll have the CSOL series again next year.

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To: rmoc-policy@yahoogroups.com

Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 21:33:25 -0600

Subject: [RMOC-policy] A couple of purchase suggestions:

1. I think we need another 20 epunches @$38*20 $720. Maybe not what
do you all think.

2. We need more whistles to sell (and or maybe give to deserving
individuals too.)
Possibilities:
a) 100 for $50
b) 250 for $100
c) 250 custom designed with our club name (maybe logo) $184
(including design cost).

Thanks for you input and preference.

Bob

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#656 From: ktbrennan200@...
Date: Sun Apr 24, 2011 5:11 am
Subject: Re: A couple of purchase suggestions: ktbrennan200@...
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Hi Bob and All,
Yes, let's purchase some more e sticks.
Do we have any left to sell? If so, let's e mail that they are for sale. Perhaps to the registrant for the next meet, or mention in the meet info that they are available.

re whistles: let's purchase whatever number we can sell/give in a reasonable time. We don't want to have a bunch to store.
I do like the idea of our logo on them, along with web address.

Kathleen

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Sent: Sat, Apr 23, 2011 10:57 pm
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#657 From: Bob <Bob_Ellis@...>
Date: Thu May 12, 2011 4:31 am
Subject: Do we want a banner? Bob_Ellis@...
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There is a sale at Staples for outdoor banners. I can get a 2 ft. x 6 ft. banner looking like this for $90.00.
It is vinyl with grommets.

Should we consider it?

Bob

#658 From: "B. Brooke Mann" <bbrookemann@...>
Date: Thu May 12, 2011 4:50 am
Subject: Re: Do we want a banner? bbrookemann71
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Hi Bob,

How long is the sale on for? I think we can work on enhancing the design if we have some time. Do you have a specific use in mind for it?

A "feather flag" would be more eye-catching if we're trying to attract passers-by (or registered runners) out at our meets -- but also probably a bit more expensive. Brian Coleman and I were actually talking about this at Fox Run -- he knows where to get them. Even though they look big, they disassemble into a fairly compact package with carrying case.

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From: "Bob" <Bob_Ellis@...>

To: rmoc-policy@yahoogroups.com

Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 22:31:01 -0600

Subject: [RMOC-policy] Do we want a banner?

There is a sale at Staples for outdoor banners. I can get a 2 ft. x 6 ft. banner looking like this for $90.00.
It is vinyl with grommets.

Should we consider it?

Bob

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#659 From: Sherry <slitasi@...>
Date: Thu May 12, 2011 5:06 am
Subject: Re: Do we want a banner? slitasi
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I like the idea of a banner for the registration tent (and would love it to say "registration". But I also like the idea of the flag - it could say "starts" and maybe one for "finish/download"... anyway, now that we have so many people, it's great to clearly define the purpose of the line :) :)

Oh, and maybe a banner for CSOL (or whatever the TLA is :).

my 2 cents...

Sherry Litasi

303-324-2305
www.bodyworkdynamics.com

From: B. Brooke Mann <bbrookemann@...>
To: RMOC Policy List <rmoc-policy@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: Brian Coleman <bcoleman@...>
Sent: Wed, May 11, 2011 10:50:57 PM
Subject: Re: [RMOC-policy] Do we want a banner?

Hi Bob,

How long is the sale on for? I think we can work on enhancing the design if we have some time. Do you have a specific use in mind for it?

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From: "Bob" <Bob_Ellis@...>

To: rmoc-policy@yahoogroups.com

Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 22:31:01 -0600

Subject: [RMOC-policy] Do we want a banner?

There is a sale at Staples for outdoor banners. I can get a 2 ft. x 6 ft. banner looking like this for $90.00.
It is vinyl with grommets.

Should we consider it?

Bob

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#660 From: "B. Brooke Mann" <bbrookemann@...>
Date: Thu May 12, 2011 5:20 am
Subject: Re: Do we want a banner? bbrookemann71
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I think the feather-flags are in the range of $300-$400, so I was assuming we'd only get one and that it would say something all-purpose like "Rocky Mountain Orienteering Club" (with our logo). We already have a laminated sign that says "registration" -- it's nothing particularly fancy, but I think our blue QuikShade tent usually makes the registration location pretty obvious.

This is a tangent, but -- getting newbies from the Finish control to the download van seems to be an issue sometimes. We should try to position the Finish control and the van as close together as possible. People seem oblivious to the sign that says "download in van", so having a chute that funnels people directly from the Finish control to the van is ideal. Chute can be made with survey tape on either side or those banner/ pennant things we have sometimes.

Another tangent -- someone (Nelson? Leif?) had a good idea last weekend: we should have a "greeter" who tells people what to do when they arrive, and that person needs to be positioned near the registration table. "Sign the waiver." "Find your label and stick it on a start card, then fill in your phone number and license plate." "Go stand in that line to pay." "The Beginner Instruction person is over there." "Yes, you probably want to do the Yellow course, not the Red course." "You didn't pre-register? Then you won't have a label; fill out the start card by hand." ETC. Neal Barlow had this role at Fox Run; we should try to have someone in this role at every meet.

Sorry to hijack your email thread, Bob. ;-)

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From: "Sherry" <slitasi@...>

To: "B. Brooke Mann" <bbrookemann@...>, "RMOC Policy List" <rmoc-policy@yahoogroups.com>

Cc: "Brian Coleman" <bcoleman@...>

Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 22:06:54 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: Re: [RMOC-policy] Do we want a banner?

Sherry Litasi

303-324-2305
www.bodyworkdynamics.com

From: B. Brooke Mann <bbrookemann@...>
To: RMOC Policy List <rmoc-policy@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: Brian Coleman <bcoleman@...>
Sent: Wed, May 11, 2011 10:50:57 PM
Subject: Re: [RMOC-policy] Do we want a banner?

Hi Bob,

How long is the sale on for? I think we can work on enhancing the design if we have some time. Do you have a specific use in mind for it?

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From: "Bob" <Bob_Ellis@...>

To: rmoc-policy@yahoogroups.com

Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 22:31:01 -0600

Subject: [RMOC-policy] Do we want a banner?

There is a sale at Staples for outdoor banners. I can get a 2 ft. x 6 ft. banner looking like this for $90.00.
It is vinyl with grommets.

Should we consider it?

Bob

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#661 From: "B. Brooke Mann" <bbrookemann@...>
Date: Thu May 12, 2011 5:27 am
Subject: Re: Do we want a banner? bbrookemann71
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That's correct Kathleen: it has a spike you stick into the ground, and then a pole that slides onto the spike. (There are some models that just have a footed base that stands on the ground; we do NOT want that kind.) The pole comes apart into several sections so it can be transported easily.

Ground spike:

Disassembled pole w/ carrying case (banner rolls up into bag, too):

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Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 01:08:22 -0400 (EDT)

Subject: Re: [RMOC-policy] Do we want a banner?

A feather banner would be eye catching. Would it be easier to place, because it doesn't need something to hang on?

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Cc: Brian Coleman <bcoleman@...>
Sent: Wed, May 11, 2011 10:50 pm
Subject: Re: [RMOC-policy] Do we want a banner?

Hi Bob,

How long is the sale on for? I think we can work on enhancing the design if we have some time. Do you have a specific use in mind for it?

----- Original message -----

From: "Bob" <Bob_Ellis@...>

To: rmoc-policy@yahoogroups.com

Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 22:31:01 -0600

Subject: [RMOC-policy] Do we want a banner?

There is a sale at Staples for outdoor banners. I can get a 2 ft. x 6 ft. banner looking like this for $90.00.
It is vinyl with grommets.

Should we consider it?

Bob

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#662 From: Bob <Bob_Ellis@...>
Date: Thu May 12, 2011 2:20 pm
Subject: Re: Do we want a banner? Bob_Ellis@...
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1. One important usage is at the National Outdoors Day. Sherry can correct me if I am wrong, but I remember they didn't allow any ground punctures, not even the stakes for our Easy-Up. (If that is true, the feather couldn't be used without the ground stand.

2. The Staples price is for a one color custom print. For a four color 2' x 6' it is $133. And until Jun 8 I can get 50% off. (hmm maybe 67.50 for a full custom makes cents!)

my 2cents

Bob

On 5/11/2011 11:20 PM, B. Brooke Mann wrote:

I think the feather-flags are in the range of $300-$400, so I was assuming we'd only get one and that it would say something all-purpose like "Rocky Mountain Orienteering Club" (with our logo). We already have a laminated sign that says "registration" -- it's nothing particularly fancy, but I think our blue QuikShade tent usually makes the registration location pretty obvious.

This is a tangent, but -- getting newbies from the Finish control to the download van seems to be an issue sometimes. We should try to position the Finish control and the van as close together as possible. People seem oblivious to the sign that says "download in van", so having a chute that funnels people directly from the Finish control to the van is ideal. Chute can be made with survey tape on either side or those banner/ pennant things we have sometimes.

Another tangent -- someone (Nelson? Leif?) had a good idea last weekend: we should have a "greeter" who tells people what to do when they arrive, and that person needs to be positioned near the registration table. "Sign the waiver." "Find your label and stick it on a start card, then fill in your phone number and license plate." "Go stand in that line to pay." "The Beginner Instruction person is over there." "Yes, you probably want to do the Yellow course, not the Red course." "You didn't pre-register? Then you won't have a label; fill out the start card by hand." ETC. Neal Barlow had this role at Fox Run; we should try to have someone in this role at every meet.

Sorry to hijack your email thread, Bob. ;-)

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From: "Sherry" <slitasi@...>

To: "B. Brooke Mann" <bbrookemann@...>, "RMOC Policy List" <rmoc-policy@yahoogroups.com>

Cc: "Brian Coleman" <bcoleman@...>

Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 22:06:54 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: Re: [RMOC-policy] Do we want a banner?

I like the idea of a banner for the registration tent (and would love it to say "registration". But I also like the idea of the flag - it could say "starts" and maybe one for "finish/download"... anyway, now that we have so many people, it's great to clearly define the purpose of the line :) :)

Oh, and maybe a banner for CSOL (or whatever the TLA is :).

my 2 cents...

Sherry Litasi

303-324-2305
www.bodyworkdynamics.com

From: B. Brooke Mann <bbrookemann@...>
To: RMOC Policy List <rmoc-policy@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: Brian Coleman <bcoleman@...>
Sent: Wed, May 11, 2011 10:50:57 PM
Subject: Re: [RMOC-policy] Do we want a banner?

Hi Bob,

How long is the sale on for? I think we can work on enhancing the design if we have some time. Do you have a specific use in mind for it?

A "feather flag" would be more eye-catching if we're trying to attract passers-by (or registered runners) out at our meets -- but also probably a bit more expensive. Brian Coleman and I were actually talking about this at Fox Run -- he knows where to get them. Even though they look big, they disassemble into a fairly compact package with carrying case.

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From: "Bob" <Bob_Ellis@...>

To: rmoc-policy@yahoogroups.com

Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 22:31:01 -0600

Subject: [RMOC-policy] Do we want a banner?

There is a sale at Staples for outdoor banners. I can get a 2 ft. x 6 ft. banner looking like this for $90.00.
It is vinyl with grommets.

Should we consider it?

Bob

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#663 From: Sherry <slitasi@...>
Date: Thu May 12, 2011 4:32 pm
Subject: Re: Do we want a banner? slitasi
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yup no stakes...they are concerned about the sprinkler system - though it works well :)

Sherry Litasi

303-324-2305
www.bodyworkdynamics.com

From: Bob <Bob_Ellis@...>
To: B. Brooke Mann <bbrookemann@...>
Cc: RMOC Policy List <rmoc-policy@yahoogroups.com>; Brian Coleman <bcoleman@...>
Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 8:20:02 AM
Subject: Re: [RMOC-policy] Do we want a banner?

I think the feather-flags are in the range of $300-$400, so I was assuming we'd only get one and that it would say something all-purpose like "Rocky Mountain Orienteering Club" (with our logo). We already have a laminated sign that says "registration" -- it's nothing particularly fancy, but I think our blue QuikShade tent usually makes the registration location pretty obvious.

This is a tangent, but -- getting newbies from the Finish control to the download van seems to be an issue sometimes. We should try to position the Finish control and the van as close together as possible. People seem oblivious to the sign that says "download in van", so having a chute that funnels people directly from the Finish control to the van is ideal. Chute can be made with survey tape on either side or those banner/ pennant things we have sometimes.

Another tangent -- someone (Nelson? Leif?) had a good idea last weekend: we should have a "greeter" who tells people what to do when they arrive, and that person needs to be positioned near the registration table. "Sign the waiver." "Find your label and stick it on a start card, then fill in your phone number and license plate." "Go stand in that line to pay." "The Beginner Instruction person is over there." "Yes, you probably want to do the Yellow course, not the Red course." "You didn't pre-register? Then you won't have a label; fill out the start card by hand." ETC. Neal Barlow had this role at Fox Run; we should try to have someone in this role at every meet.

Sorry to hijack your email thread, Bob. ;-)

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From: "Sherry" <slitasi@...>

To: "B. Brooke Mann" <bbrookemann@...>, "RMOC Policy List" <rmoc-policy@yahoogroups.com>

Cc: "Brian Coleman" <bcoleman@...>

Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 22:06:54 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: Re: [RMOC-policy] Do we want a banner?

I like the idea of a banner for the registration tent (and would love it to say "registration". But I also like the idea of the flag - it could say "starts" and maybe one for "finish/download"... anyway, now that we have so many people, it's great to clearly define the purpose of the line :) :)

Oh, and maybe a banner for CSOL (or whatever the TLA is :).

my 2 cents...

Sherry Litasi

303-324-2305
www.bodyworkdynamics.com

From: B. Brooke Mann <bbrookemann@...>
To: RMOC Policy List <rmoc-policy@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: Brian Coleman <bcoleman@...>
Sent: Wed, May 11, 2011 10:50:57 PM
Subject: Re: [RMOC-policy] Do we want a banner?

Hi Bob,

How long is the sale on for? I think we can work on enhancing the design if we have some time. Do you have a specific use in mind for it?

A "feather flag" would be more eye-catching if we're trying to attract passers-by (or registered runners) out at our meets -- but also probably a bit more expensive. Brian Coleman and I were actually talking about this at Fox Run -- he knows where to get them. Even though they look big, they disassemble into a fairly compact package with carrying case.

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From: "Bob" <Bob_Ellis@...>

To: rmoc-policy@yahoogroups.com

Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 22:31:01 -0600

Subject: [RMOC-policy] Do we want a banner?

There is a sale at Staples for outdoor banners. I can get a 2 ft. x 6 ft. banner looking like this for $90.00.
It is vinyl with grommets.

Should we consider it?

Bob

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#664 From: "B. Brooke Mann" <bbrookemann@...>
Date: Thu May 12, 2011 4:38 pm
Subject: Re: Do we want a banner? bbrookemann71
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That's good to know, but I really wouldn't base our banner/flag decision on a one-off event like National Outdoors Day. At 99% of our other events (meets), putting stakes in the ground is not an issue and the feather-flag would be better than a banner. With the kind of wind we get around here, I really wouldn't bother buying one with the footed base rather than the spike.

If you're bringing this up as a question of what we should use instead at National Outdoors Day, then I'd suggest that a long, narrow sign sized to fit across the front, upper fabric part of the QuikShade tent -- without hanging down to block people as they enter the tent -- might be ideal. The long, narrow sign could be something low-cost that's just printed and lamintaed for that one-time use, rather than a more expensive vinyl banner. Just an idea...

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From: "Sherry" <slitasi@...>

To: "Bob" <Bob_Ellis@...>, "B. Brooke Mann" <bbrookemann@...>

Cc: "RMOC Policy List" <rmoc-policy@yahoogroups.com>, "Brian Coleman" <bcoleman@...>

Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 09:32:15 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: Re: [RMOC-policy] Do we want a banner?

yup no stakes...they are concerned about the sprinkler system - though it works well :)

Sherry Litasi

303-324-2305
www.bodyworkdynamics.com

From: Bob <Bob_Ellis@...>
To: B. Brooke Mann <bbrookemann@...>
Cc: RMOC Policy List <rmoc-policy@yahoogroups.com>; Brian Coleman <bcoleman@...>
Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 8:20:02 AM
Subject: Re: [RMOC-policy] Do we want a banner?

I think the feather-flags are in the range of $300-$400, so I was assuming we'd only get one and that it would say something all-purpose like "Rocky Mountain Orienteering Club" (with our logo). We already have a laminated sign that says "registration" -- it's nothing particularly fancy, but I think our blue QuikShade tent usually makes the registration location pretty obvious.

This is a tangent, but -- getting newbies from the Finish control to the download van seems to be an issue sometimes. We should try to position the Finish control and the van as close together as possible. People seem oblivious to the sign that says "download in van", so having a chute that funnels people directly from the Finish control to the van is ideal. Chute can be made with survey tape on either side or those banner/ pennant things we have sometimes.

Another tangent -- someone (Nelson? Leif?) had a good idea last weekend: we should have a "greeter" who tells people what to do when they arrive, and that person needs to be positioned near the registration table. "Sign the waiver." "Find your label and stick it on a start card, then fill in your phone number and license plate." "Go stand in that line to pay." "The Beginner Instruction person is over there." "Yes, you probably want to do the Yellow course, not the Red course." "You didn't pre-register? Then you won't have a label; fill out the start card by hand." ETC. Neal Barlow had this role at Fox Run; we should try to have someone in this role at every meet.

Sorry to hijack your email thread, Bob. ;-)

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To: "B. Brooke Mann" <bbrookemann@...>, "RMOC Policy List" <rmoc-policy@yahoogroups.com>

Cc: "Brian Coleman" <bcoleman@...>

Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 22:06:54 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: Re: [RMOC-policy] Do we want a banner?

I like the idea of a banner for the registration tent (and would love it to say "registration". But I also like the idea of the flag - it could say "starts" and maybe one for "finish/download"... anyway, now that we have so many people, it's great to clearly define the purpose of the line :) :)

Oh, and maybe a banner for CSOL (or whatever the TLA is :).

my 2 cents...

Sherry Litasi

303-324-2305
www.bodyworkdynamics.com

From: B. Brooke Mann <bbrookemann@...>
To: RMOC Policy List <rmoc-policy@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: Brian Coleman <bcoleman@...>
Sent: Wed, May 11, 2011 10:50:57 PM
Subject: Re: [RMOC-policy] Do we want a banner?

Hi Bob,

How long is the sale on for? I think we can work on enhancing the design if we have some time. Do you have a specific use in mind for it?

A "feather flag" would be more eye-catching if we're trying to attract passers-by (or registered runners) out at our meets -- but also probably a bit more expensive. Brian Coleman and I were actually talking about this at Fox Run -- he knows where to get them. Even though they look big, they disassemble into a fairly compact package with carrying case.

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From: "Bob" <Bob_Ellis@...>

To: rmoc-policy@yahoogroups.com

Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 22:31:01 -0600

Subject: [RMOC-policy] Do we want a banner?

There is a sale at Staples for outdoor banners. I can get a 2 ft. x 6 ft. banner looking like this for $90.00.
It is vinyl with grommets.

Should we consider it?

Bob

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#665 From: "B. Brooke Mann" <bbrookemann@...>
Date: Thu May 12, 2011 4:41 pm
Subject: Re: Do we want a banner? bbrookemann71
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If we're hanging the banner at the BACK of the tent (facing the front), then $67.50 seems worth it. But, if it's 2' high, hanging it on the front of the tent won't work. Does Staples have specific guidelines about the file format and design specs for these banners?

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From: "Bob" <Bob_Ellis@...>

To: "B. Brooke Mann" <bbrookemann@...>

Cc: "RMOC Policy List" <rmoc-policy@yahoogroups.com>, "Brian Coleman" <bcoleman@...>

Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 08:20:02 -0600

Subject: Re: [RMOC-policy] Do we want a banner?

I think the feather-flags are in the range of $300-$400, so I was assuming we'd only get one and that it would say something all-purpose like "Rocky Mountain Orienteering Club" (with our logo). We already have a laminated sign that says "registration" -- it's nothing particularly fancy, but I think our blue QuikShade tent usually makes the registration location pretty obvious.

This is a tangent, but -- getting newbies from the Finish control to the download van seems to be an issue sometimes. We should try to position the Finish control and the van as close together as possible. People seem oblivious to the sign that says "download in van", so having a chute that funnels people directly from the Finish control to the van is ideal. Chute can be made with survey tape on either side or those banner/ pennant things we have sometimes.

Another tangent -- someone (Nelson? Leif?) had a good idea last weekend: we should have a "greeter" who tells people what to do when they arrive, and that person needs to be positioned near the registration table. "Sign the waiver." "Find your label and stick it on a start card, then fill in your phone number and license plate." "Go stand in that line to pay." "The Beginner Instruction person is over there." "Yes, you probably want to do the Yellow course, not the Red course." "You didn't pre-register? Then you won't have a label; fill out the start card by hand." ETC. Neal Barlow had this role at Fox Run; we should try to have someone in this role at every meet.

Sorry to hijack your email thread, Bob. ;-)

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Cc: "Brian Coleman" <bcoleman@...>

Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 22:06:54 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: Re: [RMOC-policy] Do we want a banner?

I like the idea of a banner for the registration tent (and would love it to say "registration". But I also like the idea of the flag - it could say "starts" and maybe one for "finish/download"... anyway, now that we have so many people, it's great to clearly define the purpose of the line :) :)

Oh, and maybe a banner for CSOL (or whatever the TLA is :).

my 2 cents...

Sherry Litasi

303-324-2305
www.bodyworkdynamics.com

From: B. Brooke Mann <bbrookemann@...>
To: RMOC Policy List <rmoc-policy@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: Brian Coleman <bcoleman@...>
Sent: Wed, May 11, 2011 10:50:57 PM
Subject: Re: [RMOC-policy] Do we want a banner?

Hi Bob,

How long is the sale on for? I think we can work on enhancing the design if we have some time. Do you have a specific use in mind for it?

A "feather flag" would be more eye-catching if we're trying to attract passers-by (or registered runners) out at our meets -- but also probably a bit more expensive. Brian Coleman and I were actually talking about this at Fox Run -- he knows where to get them. Even though they look big, they disassemble into a fairly compact package with carrying case.

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From: "Bob" <Bob_Ellis@...>

To: rmoc-policy@yahoogroups.com

Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 22:31:01 -0600

Subject: [RMOC-policy] Do we want a banner?

There is a sale at Staples for outdoor banners. I can get a 2 ft. x 6 ft. banner looking like this for $90.00.
It is vinyl with grommets.

Should we consider it?

Bob

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Date: Thu May 12, 2011 10:08 pm
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What type of artwork files produces the best results?

Vector graphics files such as Encapsulate PostScript (EPS) files or Adobe PDF formats produce the best results. However, any of our supported formats (e.g., TIFF, GIF, JPEG, PNG, PDF, and EPS) will produce excellent results in the proper resolution.
We recommend at least a 600 dpi resolution for bitmapped formats

#667 From: J-J Cote <jjcotelists@...>
Date: Fri May 13, 2011 2:23 am
Subject: Re: Do we want a banner? jjcote
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Very easy to do the artwork in 0CAD and create a vector file. The club logo is already in 0CAD anyway.

On 5/12/2011 6:08 PM, Bob wrote:

What type of artwork files produces the best results?

Vector graphics files such as Encapsulate PostScript (EPS) files or Adobe PDF formats produce the best results. However, any of our supported formats (e.g., TIFF, GIF, JPEG, PNG, PDF, and EPS) will produce excellent results in the proper resolution.

We recommend at least a 600 dpi resolution for bitmapped formats

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Date: Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:17 am
Subject: Fw: [USOFclubnet] Club registration software slitasi
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fyi

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Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2011 9:18 PM
Subject: [USOFclubnet] Club registration software

I think one of the single best things OUSA could do for member clubs is to buy or develop a good, easy to use, computer registration system for local events. OUSA wants to improve the number of starts, and I think one of the best ways would be able to track people who have already come out to an event, and send them reminders about upcoming events. Maybe some US clubs already have it, but BAOC is still stuck in the paper registration form morass, where people have to fill out the same info every time. There is no easy way to keep track of who comes to our events. We ask questions like “How did you hear about the event”, but we do not have an easy way to keep any statistical data.

Rather than re-inventing the wheel, it would be nice if OUSA could provide, as one of the perks of being a member club, a good software package that would allow us to keep a data base of people who attend, where they live, their e-mails, safety information, finger stick number, etc. It should be able to provide an easy transfer to online E punching software. Now we have a two-step process.. Fill out the paper work, pay the fee, and then go to EP area, and re-enter all of the data the person has just given.

We have talked about computerizing the registration and integrating it with EP for years, but the task just seems too monumental to do, even with all of the techies in our club.

Evan

#669 From: Bob <Bob_Ellis@...>
Date: Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:44 pm
Subject: 2012 A-Meet... Bob_Ellis@...
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I've been thinking, and that usually gets me into trouble.  So I need to
know what you all think.

RMOC should host an A-meet next year (2012).  Steve Willman is starting
to work on the Camp Alexander/Sledgehammer maps and that is wonderful.
But I don't want him to be pressured as we were last year with Rainbow
Falls in getting it done quicker than he has time.   So we should plan
on using it in 2013 or 2014

I talked with Mikell Platt this morning about doing a joint RMOC/LROC
(mostly RMOC helpers) A-Meet in the summer of 2012.  He thinks that is a
good idea, and since sanctions are supposed to be in a year ahead we
need to start planning (at least enough to commit to it and send in a
sanction request.

What do you-all on the policy list think?

If we do, course setters would be able to start their planning (and
field work) this summer, Mikell could start the permitting soon, and we
could even start planning other aspects nice and early.

I'm thinking I could be meet director but would gladly take a secondary
mentoring position behind someone else.

Questions to discuss:
3-days or 5 days or ??
When (probably early August (schools in the west start mid August or
late July (mosquitoes are bad earlier)?
Who will course set (Mikell will do one day)?
Any Championships sanctioning?
Any Night or Relays?


RSVP

Bob

#670 From: Neal <thaum@...>
Date: Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:58 pm
Subject: Re: 2012 A-Meet... thaum
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An aside. I have been running all over Blue Mountain setting Scapegoat after the fire mitigation work. The map is still good, but it does need updating, with logging trails, clearings, etc, plus rock features that are now more visible.

Camp Alexander/Sledgehammer, I would rather take our time and get some great maps.

Wyoming '12, I will volunteer to set one day and vet another, assuming it is at least 5 days.

Neal

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From: Bob <Bob_Ellis@...>
Subject: [RMOC-policy] 2012 A-Meet...
To: "RMOC Policy List" <rmoc-policy@yahoogroups.com>, "Steve Willman" <gallery@...>, "Mikell" <mikell@...>
Date: Tuesday, June 21, 2011, 9:44 AM

I've been thinking, and that usually gets me into trouble. So I need to
know what you all think.

RMOC should host an A-meet next year (2012). Steve Willman is starting
to work on the Camp Alexander/Sledgehammer maps and that is wonderful.
But I don't want him to be pressured as we were last year with Rainbow
Falls in getting it done quicker than he has time. So we should plan
on using it in 2013 or 2014

I talked with Mikell Platt this morning about doing a joint RMOC/LROC
(mostly RMOC helpers) A-Meet in the summer of 2012. He thinks that is a
good idea, and since sanctions are supposed to be in a year ahead we
need to start planning (at least enough to commit to it and send in a
sanction request.

What do you-all on the policy list think?

If we do, course setters would be able to start their planning (and
field work) this summer, Mikell could start the permitting soon, and we
could even start planning other aspects nice and early.

I'm thinking I could be meet director but would gladly take a secondary
mentoring position behind someone else.

Questions to discuss:
3-days or 5 days or ??
When (probably early August (schools in the west start mid August or
late July (mosquitoes are bad earlier)?
Who will course set (Mikell will do one day)?
Any Championships sanctioning?
Any Night or Relays?

RSVP

Bob

#671 From: "B. Brooke Mann" <bbrookemann@...>
Date: Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:25 pm
Subject: Re: 2012 A-Meet... bbrookemann71
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Hi Bob,

I really like that idea for the following reasons:

* Better for Mapper & Course Setters. For several of RMOC's recent A-meets, it seems like there has been a TON of last-minute pressure on the mapper. That can't possibly be good from a quality perspective or a personal stress perspective. I think we'd all be happier -- both as planners and as attendees -- if our A-meets were scheduled a healthy distance out from actual map completion. It seems like other clubs allow as much as a full year between map completion and their A-meet, to give plenty of time for course planning and other details without inducing ulcers. ;-)

* Easier to Get Permits. My impression is that Mikell has to jump through a lot fewer hoops to get his USFS permits than we do with Colorado USFS & BLM offices...

* Great Area. Mikell has so many high-quality maps ready to use (including some newly mapped areas, I think?), and it's a universally popular area. Lodging in Laramie is affordable. There are a number of restaurants and activities in Laramie for out-of-towners (movie theater, weekend farmer's market, a few small museums, etc.).

Other Points:

* Drive Time : I was going to say that a possible problem might be the long drive-time for Colorado-based course setters and vetters who have to make multiple trips. BUT, it's really not any longer from Boulder/Denver to Happy Jack (2:20) than to the Lake George area (2:00), according to Google...

* Timing: In reference to this year's Laramie Daze meet, I've heard people say that time of year is difficult for teachers and families who have school-age kids. So, I'd suggest you poll people in different parts of the country to get an idea of what dates might work best for the most people.

* Night and Relay : YES and YES!

* Sanctioning: Might as well if it's an A-meet anyway...? (Other than the initial application process, is there much more work required for a sanctioned event vs. a standard A-meet event?)

Regards,

Brooke

On Jun 21, 2011 9:45, Bob <Bob_Ellis@...> wrote:

I've been thinking, and that usually gets me into trouble. So I need to
know what you all think.

RMOC should host an A-meet next year (2012). Steve Willman is starting
to work on the Camp Alexander/Sledgehammer maps and that is wonderful.
But I don't want him to be pressured as we were last year with Rainbow
Falls in getting it done quicker than he has time. So we should plan
on using it in 2013 or 2014

I talked with Mikell Platt this morning about doing a joint RMOC/LROC
(mostly RMOC helpers) A-Meet in the summer of 2012. He thinks that is a
good idea, and since sanctions are supposed to be in a year ahead we
need to start planning (at least enough to commit to it and send in a
sanction request.

What do you-all on the policy list think?

If we do, course setters would be able to start their planning (and
field work) this summer, Mikell could start the permitting soon, and we
could even start planning other aspects nice and early.

I'm thinking I could be meet director but would gladly take a secondary
mentoring position behind someone else.

Questions to discuss:
3-days or 5 days or ??
When (probably early August (schools in the west start mid August or
late July (mosquitoes are bad earlier)?
Who will course set (Mikell will do one day)?
Any Championships sanctioning?
Any Night or Relays?

RSVP

Bob

#672 From: "B. Brooke Mann" <bbrookemann@...>
Date: Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:32 pm
Subject: Re: 2012 A-Meet... bbrookemann71
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I'm re-sending Mikell's input since he's not subscribed to the rmoc-policy list. See details below.

----- Original message -----

From: "Mikell" <mikell@...>

Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 10:32:08 -0600

Subject: Re: [RMOC-policy] 2012 A-Meet...

Hi everyone,

One of the things I mentioned to Bob is that if we do something, we should try to arrange the event to make it as attractive as possible to (hopefully) draw a good turnout. Last year's attendance at the RMOC multi-day had some drawbacks in scheduling and it definitely cut into attendance (biggest problem was coming at the tail end of so many other events in both the US and Canada, which did deliver a few extra runners to Colorado, but overall deeply cut into the prospective numbers that might have been possible, as by the time Colorado rolled around, it was just too much for most runners.)

So, in line with other comments already made, I think a 5 day "A" (5 days of sanctioned races) event falling somewhere in early August would work well. I took a quick look at the calendar at AttackPoint, and could find no obvious conflicts for either 1-5 August (ends on Sunday) or the following week, 8-12 August. Weatherwise and vegetationwise, the second week is probably a little bit better, and I think that still misses the vast majority of school beginnings (though I could be wrong about that.) Luckily, WOC and JWOC are both a few weeks earlier, and while that's not huge in terms of potentially lost attendance, it's nice for it to be possible for at least some of our best US orienteers to attend any event we should put on--and especially if any championship events are contemplated.

In line with Neal's offer, I would also be willing to set one "A" day. I'd also be willing to set one or two "pre" or "warmup" events to get the week kicked off--meaning we could have 6 or 7 days of orienteering to offer; more bang for the travel dollar makes the thing more compelling, at least for some.

Arranging for permitting should be no problem as our relationship with the Forest Service remains very good, and I would also be glad to take care of the necessary permitting.

Any of the existing maps could be used. I still have good quantities of paperstock of some of the maps, and overprinting courses on existing maps is an option. Otherwise, desktop printing will probably make the most sense as usually seems the case these days. So far, I think all of the maps could be used as is, but it's becoming more and more possible that a windstorm event could markedly affect some of the more densely forested areas due to beetle kill trees. If course setters get involved early enough (this fall would be great), then I could make some light updates if/as requested to the maps to improve control locations, etc. But no last minute stuff at my end. Another thing worth mentioning is that while we have a bunch of distinct maps up here in Laramie that have been used as such, the mapped area is now totally contiguous, and there's no reason why areas couldn't be re-configured to meet the wishes of a particular course setter, if desired.

I do have some new mapping that most visitors from away will have never seen that course setters could choose from as they wished, including additions to Pelican Bay, Remarkable Flats, Happy Jack, and Plutonic Pleasures. I'm working what is left of the Lights of Cheyenne map right now, and may be able to finish off what is left this summer/fall, and if I can get it done, that is likely the area I would choose for any eventual "A" day I did.

Sanctioning would have to be carried out by RMOC (as far as I know, the rules these days are that only "full" clubs can apply for sanctioning; LROC is only an associate club) and in any event it makes most sense that sanctioning would be done by Bob or whomever else should serve as meet director.

With 2 clubs involved, we would need to figure out how the money should be split. I would suggest keeping it simple, and that a nominal fee of a dollar or so (essentially for the maps) per runner for each "A" day to LROC would be fine, plus anything from whatever warmup events I arranged entirely on my own, with everything else to RMOC. Basically that should mean RMOC getting the biggest share of the money by far.

I wouldn't waste any time on deciding to go forward or not. A quick decision to either get the ball rolling or not will be best, especially since sanctioning would need to be applied for fairly expeditiously, and also since dates are pretty much first come, first served--first mover advantage!

A final thought: a quick look at the unofficial planning calendar for sanctioned races http://www.event-finder.org/o-planning/maincal.shtml shows no bids currently (though it doesn't 100% for certain mean something might not be in the works) for the US 2 Day Classic Champs. That's the event that is just about guaranteed to draw a good crowd. There's really no good reason IMHO to put on a US Relay Champs if you can't be pretty sure of attracting a good crowd as it just fails to be much of a competition. So, if there is sentiment to put on the US Relay Champs, then I would *strongly* encourage doing everything within reason to ensure drawing the best possible crowd. I'd be happy to do the course setting and necessary planning for a US Relay Championship for my "A" day if we could be reasonably sure of getting enough of a crowd to make the thing work. Not at all to blame anyone or anything, but last year's attendance at Lake George just wasn't good enough.

Cheers,

Mikell

An addendum: I'm pretty sure the whole sanctioning process flows easier for requests submitted at least a year in advance (that's the way it used to be when I was on the committee.) And it's still the case the championship events must receive sanctioning and then be awarded by the USOF BOD. Given the timeframe we're looking at--a potential event August a year from now--and the fact that the USOF BOD will meet several times at the upcoming Convention the first week of this upcoming August, there is some additional incentive to move quickly or not at all.

--Mikell

From: B. Brooke Mann

Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 2:25 PM

To: Bob ; RMOC Policy List ; Steve Willman ; Mikell

Subject: Re: [RMOC-policy] 2012 A-Meet...

Hi Bob,

I really like that idea for the following reasons:

* Better for Mapper & Course Setters. For several of RMOC's recent A-meets, it seems like there has been a TON of last-minute pressure on the mapper. That can't possibly be good from a quality perspective or a personal stress perspective. I think we'd all be happier -- both as planners and as attendees -- if our A-meets were scheduled a healthy distance out from actual map completion. It seems like other clubs allow as much as a full year between map completion and their A-meet, to give plenty of time for course planning and other details without inducing ulcers. ;-)

* Easier to Get Permits. My impression is that Mikell has to jump through a lot fewer hoops to get his USFS permits than we do with Colorado USFS & BLM offices...

Other Points:

* Night and Relay : YES and YES!

* Sanctioning: Might as well if it's an A-meet anyway...? (Other than the initial application process, is there much more work required for a sanctioned event vs. a standard A-meet event?)

Regards,

Brooke

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#673 From: Bob <Bob_Ellis@...>
Date: Thu Jul 7, 2011 11:42 pm
Subject: Fwd: Rogaine 2012 Bob_Ellis@...
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I have heard from Steve Willman re 2012. The Rogaine is on for July 21-22, 2012. I have asked him what we need to do next with it. I have also asked him for comments re:

What is your opinion on 2012, whether we should:

A. Have only the Rogaine

B. Have Rogaine and Laramie Daze A-Meet also.

C. Have Rogaine and Camp-A/Sledgehammer also.

What do you all on the Policy list think?

Thanks
Bob

-------- Original Message --------

Subject:	Rogaine
Date:	Thu, 7 Jul 2011 09:42:22 -0600
From:	Steve Willman <gallery@...>
To:	Bob Ellis <Bob_Ellis@...>

Bob:

I have about 2 minutes...

Rogaine is on for July 21 and 22, 2012. I need to reapply (long story) but the FS will have no objection. Question remains about the campground in high season but we aer working on alternatives (parking etc.)

I have cleared up time to work on the map. Nothing yet except a quick visit to get oriented. I am putting together 2 weeks to jusy stay there and do it.

Did you have your knee (s) replaced?

Steve

#674 From: John Crowther <johnlewiscrowther@...>
Date: Fri Jul 8, 2011 2:38 pm
Subject: Re: Fwd: Rogaine 2012 johnlewiscro...
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How much involvement (i.e. volunteer work) would RMOC have with a Rogain? I don't really know all that much about them having only done one.

What would RMOC get out of it? (new maps?? - I remember the one I did was on poor quality USGS maps).

John

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Bob <Bob_Ellis@...> wrote:

�

I have heard from Steve Willman re 2012.� The Rogaine is on for July 21-22, 2012.� I have asked him what we need to do next with it.� I have also asked him for comments re:

What is your opinion on 2012,� whether we should:

A.� Have only the Rogaine

B.� Have Rogaine and Laramie Daze A-Meet also.

C.� Have Rogaine and Camp-A/Sledgehammer also.

What do you all on the Policy list think?

Thanks
Bob

-------- Original Message --------

Subject: Rogaine

Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 09:42:22 -0600

From: Steve Willman <gallery@...>

To: Bob Ellis <Bob_Ellis@...>

Bob:

�

I have about 2 minutes...

�

Rogaine is on for July 21 and 22, 2012.� I need to reapply (long story) but the FS will have no objection.� Question remains about the campground in high season but we aer working on alternatives (parking etc.)

�

I have cleared up time to work on the map.� Nothing yet except a quick visit to get oriented.� I am putting together 2 weeks to jusy stay there and do it.

�

Did you have your knee (s) replaced?

�

Steve

#675 From: Bob <Bob_Ellis@...>
Date: Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:40 pm
Subject: Anybody going to the AGM in NY in Aug? Bob_Ellis@...
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I need someone to be our clubs voter at the Annul General Meeting of
OUSA (nee USOF)

Bob

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#676 From: Sherry <slitasi@...>
Date: Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:17 pm
Subject: Fw: [USA_Trail-O] Digest Number 102 slitasi
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See below about an Grant opportunity - we might want to pull something together regarding our school league. We could use the money to make maps (thinking about areas where schools could train), equipment (thumb compasses as awards), etc.

What do you think?

Sherry Litasi

303-324-2305
www.bodyworkdynamics.com

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1a.: Re: Fwd: [FWD: REMINDER: Team USA Grant applications due July 27 -- From: Catherine Yekenevicz
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1a.: Re: Fwd: [FWD: REMINDER: Team USA Grant applications due July 27 --

Posted by: "Catherine Yekenevicz" cycpa@... cycpa@...

Sun Jul 17, 2011 5:43 pm (PDT)

Just wanted to opine that Paralympic Class Trail-O is not at all the same as USOC Paralympics.

____________ _________ _________ _______
Catherine Ann Yekenevicz CPA
2330 Chestnut St #35
West Bend, WI 53095-2989
262.335.3304 land 262.707.5134 mobile cycpa@... cycpa13578@gmail. com
BGR website: http://userpages. chorus.net/ kevin
ASWA Chapter 41 http://www.aswamilw aukee.org

--- On Fri, 7/15/11, Glen Cafferty <glen.cafferty@ comcast.net> wrote:

From: Glen Cafferty <glen.cafferty@ comcast.net>
Subject: [USA_Trail-O] Fwd: [FWD: REMINDER: Team USA Grant applications due July 27 -- two weeks away!] [2 Attachments]
To: "Trail O news group" <usa_trail-o@ yahoogroups. com>
Cc: "Glen Schorr" <gjs@orienteeringusa .org>
Date: Friday, July 15, 2011, 1:26 AM

[Attachment( s) from Glen Cafferty included below]

Is anyone interested in this funding opportunity? Short notice for this year. Would anyone be interested in a similar project for next year?

Glen

Linda, Rick, Guy and Glen

> From: Vanessa Virbitsky <Vanessa.Virbitsky@ usoc.org>
> Date: July 13, 2011 2:35:47 PM PDT
> To: Vanessa Virbitsky <Vanessa.Virbitsky@ usoc.org>
> Subject: REMINDER: Team USA Grant applications due July 27 -- two weeks away!
>

> REMINDER: Only two weeks remain to enter your organization’s program to win a Team USA Grant! The final day for entries is July 27. If you’ve already created an account, don’t forget to press “submit” at the end of the application.
>

> What is it?
>
> As part of this summer’s “Join Team USA” campaign, the USOC is distributing six Team USA Grants of $12,000 each to programs that 1) support competitive excellence, 2) spread Olympism, or 3) grow sport participation.
>
>
> While the funds for Team USA Grants were originally set aside for marketing, the USOC is instead using this money to directly promote Olympism through the great programs of U.S. Olympic family members. We hope Team USA Grants will help you drive awareness and potential funding for a program within your organization, while at the same time supporting the Olympic values and encouraging people to visit Facebook to learn about your organization’s programs.
>
> How does it work?
>
> From June 20-July 27, 2011, members of the U.S. Olympic and Paralympic Family (see the full list of eligible organizations here) are invited to apply for the grants by filling out an online application, including a two minute video describing the program.
>
> Following an internal selection process, 15 finalists and their video submissions will be posted to Facebook from Sept. 2-18, 2011, and finalists will be encouraged to send information to their supporters to generate Facebook votes for their program’s video.
>
> Fan voting will determine the six winners who will each receive a Team USA Grant of $12,000, issued in two installments of $6,000. The six winners will be announced on or around Sept. 22, 2011 and the first payment will be allotted on or around Oct. 5, 2011.
>
> Please visit the Team USA Grants page on TeamUSA.org for more information, and if you have additional questions, please e-mail TeamUSAgrants@ usoc.org.
>
> We look forward to seeing your submission.
>
> What’s the timeline?
>
> June 20-July 27: Applications accepted at www.TeamUSA. org/TeamUSAgrant s
>
> Sept. 2-18: Voting for the finalists at www.facebook. com/USOlympicTea m
> Sept. 22: Approximate date the winners will be notified and announced
>
> Oct. 5: Approximate date the winners will receive the first half of their prize award
>
> Thanks for your involvement, and we look forward to seeing your entry!
>
>
> Vanessa Virbitsky
>
>
> Communications Coordinator
>
> United States Olympic Committee
>
> 1 Olympic Plaza
>
> Colorado Springs, CO 80909
>
>
> 719-866-4241 [office]
>
> 719-866-4677 [fax]
>
> 719-237-3588 [cell]
>
>
> vanessa.virbitsky@ usoc.org
>
> www.TeamUSA. org
>
> http://pressbox. teamusa.org
>
>
>
>

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1b.: Re: Fwd: [FWD: REMINDER: Team USA Grant applications due July 27 --

Posted by: "Glen Cafferty" glen.cafferty@... glen.cafferty

Sun Jul 17, 2011 7:05 pm (PDT)

But the Orienteering USA Trail O Team would still qualify for the grant.

----- Original Message -----

Just wanted to opine that Paralympic Class Trail-O is not at all the same as USOC Paralympics.

____________ _________ _________ _______
Catherine Ann Yekenevicz CPA
2330 Chestnut St #35
West Bend, WI 53095-2989
262.335.3304 land 262.707.5134 mobile cycpa@... cycpa13578@gmail. com
BGR website: http://userpages. chorus.net/ kevin
ASWA Chapter 41 http://www.aswamilw aukee.org

--- On Fri, 7/15/11, Glen Cafferty <glen.cafferty@ comcast.net> wrote:

From: Glen Cafferty <glen.cafferty@ comcast.net>
Subject: [USA_Trail-O] Fwd: [FWD: REMINDER: Team USA Grant applications due July 27 -- two weeks away!] [2 Attachments]
To: "Trail O news group" <usa_trail-o@ yahoogroups. com>
Cc: "Glen Schorr" <gjs@orienteeringusa .org>
Date: Friday, July 15, 2011, 1:26 AM

Is anyone interested in this funding opportunity? Short notice for this year. Would anyone be interested in a similar project for next year?

Glen

Linda, Rick, Guy and Glen

> From: Vanessa Virbitsky < Vanessa.Virbitsky@ usoc.org >
> Date: July 13, 2011 2:35:47 PM PDT
> To: Vanessa Virbitsky < Vanessa.Virbitsky@ usoc.org >
> Subject: REMINDER: Team USA Grant applications due July 27 -- two weeks away!
>

> REMINDER: Only two weeks remain to enter your organization’s program to win a Team USA Grant! The final day for entries is July 27. If you’ve already created an account, don’t forget to press “submit” at the end of the application.
>

> What is it?
>
> As part of this summer’s “Join Team USA” campaign, the USOC is distributing six Team USA Grants of $12,000 each to programs that 1) support competitive excellence, 2) spread Olympism, or 3) grow sport participation.
>
>
> While the funds for Team USA Grants were originally set aside for marketing, the USOC is instead using this money to directly promote Olympism through the great programs of U.S. Olympic family members. We hope Team USA Grants will help you drive awareness and potential funding for a program within your organization, while at the same time supporting the Olympic values and encouraging people to visit Facebook to learn about your organization’s programs.
>
> How does it work?
>
> From June 20-July 27, 2011, members of the U.S. Olympic and Paralympic Family (see the full list of eligible organizations here) are invited to apply for the grants by filling out an online application, including a two minute video describing the program.
>
> Following an internal selection process, 15 finalists and their video submissions will be posted to Facebook from Sept. 2-18, 2011, and finalists will be encouraged to send information to their supporters to generate Facebook votes for their program’s video.
>
> Fan voting will determine the six winners who will each receive a Team USA Grant of $12,000, issued in two installments of $6,000. The six winners will be announced on or around Sept. 22, 2011 and the first payment will be allotted on or around Oct. 5, 2011.
>
> Please visit the Team USA Grants page on TeamUSA.org for more information, and if you have additional questions, please e-mail TeamUSAgrants@ usoc.org.
>
> We look forward to seeing your submission.
>
> What’s the timeline?
>
> June 20-July 27: Applications accepted at www.TeamUSA. org/TeamUSAgrant s
>
> Sept. 2-18: Voting for the finalists at www.facebook. com/USOlympicTea m
> Sept. 22: Approximate date the winners will be notified and announced
>
> Oct. 5: Approximate date the winners will receive the first half of their prize award
>
> Thanks for your involvement, and we look forward to seeing your entry!
>
>
> Vanessa Virbitsky
>
>
> Communications Coordinator
>
> United States Olympic Committee
>
> 1 Olympic Plaza
>
> Colorado Springs, CO 80909
>
>
> 719-866-4241 [office]
>
> 719-866-4677 [fax]
>
> 719-237-3588 [cell]
>
>
> vanessa.virbitsky@ usoc.org
>
> www.TeamUSA. org
>
> http://pressbox. teamusa.org
>
>
>
>

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#677 From: "B. Brooke Mann" <bbrookemann@...>
Date: Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:19 pm
Subject: Re: Fw: [USA_Trail-O] Digest Number 102 bbrookemann71
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Sounds like a great idea if someone has time to put together a proposal. Nothing to lose, right?

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Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 11:17:36 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: [RMOC-policy] Fw: [USA_Trail-O] Digest Number 102

What do you think?

Sherry Litasi

303-324-2305
www.bodyworkdynamics.com

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1a.: Re: Fwd: [FWD: REMINDER: Team USA Grant applications due July 27 -- From: Catherine Yekenevicz
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1a.: Re: Fwd: [FWD: REMINDER: Team USA Grant applications due July 27 --

Posted by: "Catherine Yekenevicz" cycpa@... cycpa@...

Sun Jul 17, 2011 5:43 pm (PDT)

Just wanted to opine that Paralympic Class Trail-O is not at all the same as USOC Paralympics.

____________ _________ _________ _______
Catherine Ann Yekenevicz CPA
2330 Chestnut St #35
West Bend, WI 53095-2989
262.335.3304 land 262.707.5134 mobile cycpa@... cycpa13578@gmail. com
BGR website: http://userpages. chorus.net/ kevin
ASWA Chapter 41 http://www.aswamilw aukee.org

--- On Fri, 7/15/11, Glen Cafferty <glen.cafferty@ comcast.net> wrote:

From: Glen Cafferty <glen.cafferty@ comcast.net>
Subject: [USA_Trail-O] Fwd: [FWD: REMINDER: Team USA Grant applications due July 27 -- two weeks away!] [2 Attachments]
To: "Trail O news group" <usa_trail-o@ yahoogroups. com>
Cc: "Glen Schorr" <gjs@orienteeringusa .org>
Date: Friday, July 15, 2011, 1:26 AM

[Attachment( s) from Glen Cafferty included below]

Is anyone interested in this funding opportunity? Short notice for this year. Would anyone be interested in a similar project for next year?

Glen

Linda, Rick, Guy and Glen

> From: Vanessa Virbitsky <Vanessa.Virbitsky@ usoc.org>
> Date: July 13, 2011 2:35:47 PM PDT
> To: Vanessa Virbitsky <Vanessa.Virbitsky@ usoc.org>
> Subject: REMINDER: Team USA Grant applications due July 27 -- two weeks away!
>

> REMINDER: Only two weeks remain to enter your organization’s program to win a Team USA Grant! The final day for entries is July 27. If you’ve already created an account, don’t forget to press “submit” at the end of the application.
>

> What is it?
>
> As part of this summer’s “Join Team USA” campaign, the USOC is distributing six Team USA Grants of $12,000 each to programs that 1) support competitive excellence, 2) spread Olympism, or 3) grow sport participation.
>
>
> While the funds for Team USA Grants were originally set aside for marketing, the USOC is instead using this money to directly promote Olympism through the great programs of U.S. Olympic family members. We hope Team USA Grants will help you drive awareness and potential funding for a program within your organization, while at the same time supporting the Olympic values and encouraging people to visit Facebook to learn about your organization’s programs.
>
> How does it work?
>
> From June 20-July 27, 2011, members of the U.S. Olympic and Paralympic Family (see the full list of eligible organizations here) are invited to apply for the grants by filling out an online application, including a two minute video describing the program.
>
> Following an internal selection process, 15 finalists and their video submissions will be posted to Facebook from Sept. 2-18, 2011, and finalists will be encouraged to send information to their supporters to generate Facebook votes for their program’s video.
>
> Fan voting will determine the six winners who will each receive a Team USA Grant of $12,000, issued in two installments of $6,000. The six winners will be announced on or around Sept. 22, 2011 and the first payment will be allotted on or around Oct. 5, 2011.
>
> Please visit the Team USA Grants page on TeamUSA.org for more information, and if you have additional questions, please e-mail TeamUSAgrants@ usoc.org.
>
> We look forward to seeing your submission.
>
> What’s the timeline?
>
> June 20-July 27: Applications accepted at www.TeamUSA. org/TeamUSAgrant s
>
> Sept. 2-18: Voting for the finalists at www.facebook. com/USOlympicTea m
> Sept. 22: Approximate date the winners will be notified and announced
>
> Oct. 5: Approximate date the winners will receive the first half of their prize award
>
> Thanks for your involvement, and we look forward to seeing your entry!
>
>
> Vanessa Virbitsky
>
>
> Communications Coordinator
>
> United States Olympic Committee
>
> 1 Olympic Plaza
>
> Colorado Springs, CO 80909
>
>
> 719-866-4241 [office]
>
> 719-866-4677 [fax]
>
> 719-237-3588 [cell]
>
>
> vanessa.virbitsky@ usoc.org
>
> www.TeamUSA. org
>
> http://pressbox. teamusa.org
>
>
>
>

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1b.: Re: Fwd: [FWD: REMINDER: Team USA Grant applications due July 27 --

Posted by: "Glen Cafferty" glen.cafferty@... glen.cafferty

Sun Jul 17, 2011 7:05 pm (PDT)

But the Orienteering USA Trail O Team would still qualify for the grant.

----- Original Message -----

Just wanted to opine that Paralympic Class Trail-O is not at all the same as USOC Paralympics.

____________ _________ _________ _______
Catherine Ann Yekenevicz CPA
2330 Chestnut St #35
West Bend, WI 53095-2989
262.335.3304 land 262.707.5134 mobile cycpa@... cycpa13578@gmail. com
BGR website: http://userpages. chorus.net/ kevin
ASWA Chapter 41 http://www.aswamilw aukee.org

--- On Fri, 7/15/11, Glen Cafferty <glen.cafferty@ comcast.net> wrote:

From: Glen Cafferty <glen.cafferty@ comcast.net>
Subject: [USA_Trail-O] Fwd: [FWD: REMINDER: Team USA Grant applications due July 27 -- two weeks away!] [2 Attachments]
To: "Trail O news group" <usa_trail-o@ yahoogroups. com>
Cc: "Glen Schorr" <gjs@orienteeringusa .org>
Date: Friday, July 15, 2011, 1:26 AM

Is anyone interested in this funding opportunity? Short notice for this year. Would anyone be interested in a similar project for next year?

Glen

Linda, Rick, Guy and Glen

> From: Vanessa Virbitsky < Vanessa.Virbitsky@ usoc.org >
> Date: July 13, 2011 2:35:47 PM PDT
> To: Vanessa Virbitsky < Vanessa.Virbitsky@ usoc.org >
> Subject: REMINDER: Team USA Grant applications due July 27 -- two weeks away!
>

> REMINDER: Only two weeks remain to enter your organization’s program to win a Team USA Grant! The final day for entries is July 27. If you’ve already created an account, don’t forget to press “submit” at the end of the application.
>

> What is it?
>
> As part of this summer’s “Join Team USA” campaign, the USOC is distributing six Team USA Grants of $12,000 each to programs that 1) support competitive excellence, 2) spread Olympism, or 3) grow sport participation.
>
>
> While the funds for Team USA Grants were originally set aside for marketing, the USOC is instead using this money to directly promote Olympism through the great programs of U.S. Olympic family members. We hope Team USA Grants will help you drive awareness and potential funding for a program within your organization, while at the same time supporting the Olympic values and encouraging people to visit Facebook to learn about your organization’s programs.
>
> How does it work?
>
> From June 20-July 27, 2011, members of the U.S. Olympic and Paralympic Family (see the full list of eligible organizations here) are invited to apply for the grants by filling out an online application, including a two minute video describing the program.
>
> Following an internal selection process, 15 finalists and their video submissions will be posted to Facebook from Sept. 2-18, 2011, and finalists will be encouraged to send information to their supporters to generate Facebook votes for their program’s video.
>
> Fan voting will determine the six winners who will each receive a Team USA Grant of $12,000, issued in two installments of $6,000. The six winners will be announced on or around Sept. 22, 2011 and the first payment will be allotted on or around Oct. 5, 2011.
>
> Please visit the Team USA Grants page on TeamUSA.org for more information, and if you have additional questions, please e-mail TeamUSAgrants@ usoc.org.
>
> We look forward to seeing your submission.
>
> What’s the timeline?
>
> June 20-July 27: Applications accepted at www.TeamUSA. org/TeamUSAgrant s
>
> Sept. 2-18: Voting for the finalists at www.facebook. com/USOlympicTea m
> Sept. 22: Approximate date the winners will be notified and announced
>
> Oct. 5: Approximate date the winners will receive the first half of their prize award
>
> Thanks for your involvement, and we look forward to seeing your entry!
>
>
> Vanessa Virbitsky
>
>
> Communications Coordinator
>
> United States Olympic Committee
>
> 1 Olympic Plaza
>
> Colorado Springs, CO 80909
>
>
> 719-866-4241 [office]
>
> 719-866-4677 [fax]
>
> 719-237-3588 [cell]
>
>
> vanessa.virbitsky@ usoc.org
>
> www.TeamUSA. org
>
> http://pressbox. teamusa.org
>
>
>
>

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