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Reply Message #929 of 1551 |
Re: Update on Unemployment Insurance.

You should appeal the decision on your unemployment and make sure that you
submit documentation that shows that IBM froze the pension plan as of Dec 31,
2007 and has not contributed to your pension during the base period.

Even if you provided this information with your initial application, it wouldn't
be the first time someone in the unemployment office overlooked pertinent
documentation or made an incorrect decision.

Other IBMers in NY who are in the same situation as you are collecting
unemployment. So you should be able to receive UI as well.

--- In RAed2009@yahoogroups.com, anonymouse1935 <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> Turns out, in NY, that the pension does factor into the UI amount.
>
> Initially, I had gotten information that said:
>
> 'Our records indicate that you meet the earnings requirement to qualify for
Unemployment Insurance Benefits.'
>
> However, the latest letter says:
>
> 'Basic Base Period: Your Basic Base Period is: Jan. 01, 2008 through Dec.
31, 2008' (what happened to April 2009???????)
>
> 'High Quarter Wages -- Less Pension Reduction -- Less Worker's Compensation
Reduction' equals:
>
> bupkus
>
> zero
>
> nada
>
> zilch
>
>
> I guess that is that. I guess the five quarters stuff is bullshit in NY.
>
> Thank you IBM. I was FIRED (on April 27) but you and Sam tell me I 'RETIRED'
(on April 30). I didn't RETIRE, I was FIRED and threatened to train my
underskilled replacement (job didn't go away, note THAT NY State) under the
sword of severance/no severance, and yet NY State has me classified as RETIRED.
>
> Hey Sam, will you have the same problems when you retire and make $20K a day?
>
> No, I bet you won't.
>
> Any ideas?
>





Sat Jun 6, 2009 9:58 pm

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Turns out, in NY, that the pension does factor into the UI amount. Initially, I had gotten information that said: 'Our records indicate that you meet the...
anonymouse1935 Offline Jun 6, 2009
6:53 pm

You should appeal the decision on your unemployment and make sure that you submit documentation that shows that IBM froze the pension plan as of Dec 31, 2007...
madinpok Offline Jun 6, 2009
9:58 pm

... Well, color me controlled, I didn't explode. After a 20-minute wait, I was put in touch with the woman who made the determination on my benefit, and she...
anonymouse1935 Offline Jun 8, 2009
3:48 pm

... Oh, one last thought, before I kowtow to the idiot who denied me a benefit. IF you apply for benefits online (and boy is my face red if I missed it),...
anonymouse1935 Offline Jun 9, 2009
11:52 am

... Well, what do you know. After another painful phone call, my benefit was 'redetermined' and approved. Thank you to everyone here for the encouragement....
anonymouse1935 Offline Jun 26, 2009
5:42 pm

I just started working with Right Management. I think it's going to be very useful, so if you haven't started with them, go for it; I just scraped by vis-a-vis...
Kristen James Eberlein
kristeneberlein Offline Send Email
Jun 29, 2009
6:56 pm

... I agree with Madinpok - you definitely should appeal the letter. I'm receiving unemployment payments unreduced by the pension payments. I've heard of...
bill2k2k Offline Jun 6, 2009
10:56 pm

... Thank you madinpok and bill2k2k, I shall. bill, where is this? I cannot get into Fidelity right now, where is this on their site? ... I dread calling them,...
anonymouse1935 Offline Jun 7, 2009
11:48 am

There is a PDF on the NetBenefits website titled "About Your Benefits IBM Personal Pension Plan - Prior Plan". It has all statements about the plan being...
cybertramp66 Offline Send Email Jun 7, 2009
4:01 pm

... Thanks. Is this it? The IBM Personal Pension Plan (the "Plan") has been amended to cease all benefit accruals effective December 31, 2007. As a result of...
anonymouse1935 Offline Jun 7, 2009
4:44 pm

Yes, that's the paragraph. The claims examiner will no doubt contact IBM to confirm....
cybertramp66 Offline Send Email Jun 8, 2009
11:15 am

Hi, When I applied for unemployment awhile back they deducted my pension from the amount I'd get - leaving nothing. I remembered seeing the attached posts, so...
Jan Coates
jan_coates Offline Send Email
Sep 2, 2009
5:49 pm

Hi Jan, I would not trust the ESC to act in good faith on your behalf. It is to IBM's advantage to NOT have you collect UI. When I challenged the UI...
cybertramp66 Offline Send Email Sep 3, 2009
12:07 pm

Jan, Sign up for the Yahoo Group "IBMPension". It has lots of information about laid off IBMers who appealed to receive both unemployment and their IBM...
donald_patton Offline Send Email Sep 3, 2009
12:39 pm

... Also the employeeissues board. As noted, it is to IBM's advantage to NOT have you collect UI. It IS possible to win the UI fight, even if it's only a tiny...
anonymouse1935 Offline Sep 3, 2009
1:01 pm

This is bullcrap   You ARE eliglble for UI in NY. Contact UP  insist on speaking to a supervisor   YOU ARE ENTITLED !!!!!!   Check out the Alliance...
pal409@...
pal409 Offline Send Email
Jul 1, 2009
2:59 am

... Thanks, pal409. I did follow up in message #974. I was given a redetermination and have gotten the UI. I guess their first order of business in NY is to...
anonymouse1935 Offline Jul 1, 2009
9:49 am

... However, for those of us who were laid off in February (and who are eligible for retirement), my understanding is that we are *not* eligible for...
pershng2 Offline Send Email Jul 1, 2009
6:03 pm

Personally, I would contest it. It doesn't hurt to do so. At a minimum, any deduction for pension should be prorated based on the number of months IBM...
cybertramp66 Offline Send Email Jul 1, 2009
11:03 pm

... pershng2, I was RA'd in February and if you applied in March for unemployment the pension would probably be more than the $405+25 UI (due to the <5...
bill2k2k Offline Jul 2, 2009
4:03 am

Hello. First post here. Selected for RA in March, left IBM on 4/27/09. 32 Years of service, in the IBM Personal Pension - Prior Plan Filed UI claim with New...
nyjints5 Offline Send Email Jul 2, 2009
9:25 pm

... If you collect your pension, would you no longer get the retraining assistance and the second year of UI benefits? If not, then those who are getting UI...
anonymouse1935 Offline Jul 2, 2009
9:38 pm

Anonymouse: Thanks for asking an excellent question!! I must admit that it didnt occur to me to ask DoL if collecting a pension might have any bearing on...
nyjints5 Offline Send Email Jul 3, 2009
12:40 am

... I wish you all kinds of luck, nyjints5. Remember, IBM set up this firing under as oily and nebulous a set of terms as possible. RA'ed, laid off, job...
anonymouse1935 Offline Jul 3, 2009
9:52 am

Anonymouse1935, thank you for the kind words. I started this board so that we can exchange information and tips to help each other out. I know (from prior...
phrl2009 Offline Send Email Jul 3, 2009
12:21 pm

phrl2009, Yes, this forum has been extremely valuable to understanding the maze IBM has set up to deter us from getting our benefits. Thanks for setting it up....
cybertramp66 Offline Send Email Jul 4, 2009
11:45 am

... I doubt it, cybertramp66, although I can't speak to your post being edited. There aren't many places where firees can talk about the screwing they got, so...
anonymouse1935 Offline Jul 5, 2009
11:08 am

Anonymouse: You're welcome. Sorry to hear you were not informed of any DoL seminars. Because I'm not sure where you're located I dont know if there were any...
nyjints5 Offline Send Email Jul 3, 2009
3:32 pm

NY unemployment sets the base period as the 5 most recently completed quarters preceding the date you apply for UI. Although that would have made you...
madinpok Offline Jul 2, 2009
4:36 pm
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