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Re: USAToday: Elton John: Where Prop 8 went wrong (+ comment)
Question: Can people in civil partnerships visit their partner in the hospital and have the same right to information as married couples?
Answer: Yes, by going to your expensive lawyer and paying him/her to draw up papers - however, a quickie marriage in Vegas (or elsewhere) grants you that right plus over 1,100 benefits under the Constitution in a country where you pay state and US taxes - just pay the Elvis preacher a small fee. Also, that "quickie" marriage will be recognized in all 50 states under the "full faith and credit act" under the Constitution instantly. Current same-sex marriages are not afforded those rights and none cannot file jointly on there income taxes - which they pay.
Tom Dempsey
--- In QueerSouthernCalifornia@yahoogroups.com, Kathy L <klab1972@...> wrote:
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> not to sound ignorant, but can people in civil partnerships visit their partner in the hospital and have the same right to information as married couples?
> > --- On Wed, 11/12/08, Tom Dempsey <tomdemp@...> wrote:
> From: Tom Dempsey <tomdemp@...>
> Subject: [QueerSouthernCalifornia] USAToday: Elton John: Where Prop 8 went wrong (+ comment)
> To: "QueerAlabama" <QueerAlabama@yahoogroups.com>, "QueerAtlanta" <QueerAtlanta@yahoogroups.com>, "QueerFlorida" <QueerFlorida@yahoogroups.com>, "QueerGeorgia" <queergeorgia@yahoogroups.com>, "QueerGulfCoast" <QueerGulfCoast@yahoogroups.com>, "QueerLouisiana" <QueerLouisiana@yahoogroups.com>, "QueerMississippi" <QueerMississippi@yahoogroups.com>, "QueerNewYork" <QueerNewYork@yahoogroups.com>, "QueerSouthernCalifornia" <QueerSouthernCalifornia@yahoogroups.com>, "QueerSouthFlorida" <QueerSouthFlorida@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 6:34 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, Elton! Not helping! Separate but equal doesn't work for me.
> > Tom Dempsey
> Elton John: Where Prop 8 went wrong
> > > > NEW YORK — Sir Elton John, accompanied by his longtime partner David Furnish, had some choice words about California's Proposition 8, the ban on same-sex marriage that passed on Nov. 4.
> In December 2005, John and Furnish tied the knot in a civil partnership ceremony in Windsor, England. But, clarified the singer, "We're not married. Let's get that right. We have a civil partnership. What is wrong with Proposition 8 is that they went for marriage. Marriage is going to put a lot of people off, the word marriage."
> ...
> "I don't want to be married. I'm very happy with a civil partnership. If gay people want to get married, or get together, they should have a civil partnership," said John. "The word marriage, I think, puts a lot of people off. You get the same equal rights that we do when we have a civil partnership. Heterosexual people get married. We can have civil partnerships."
> > more...
> http://www.usatoday .com/life/ people/2008- 11-12-elton- john_N.htm
>
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 8:34 PM, Tom Dempsey <tomdemp@...> wrote:
Thanks, Elton! Not helping! Separate but equal doesn't work for me.
Tom Dempsey
Elton John: Where Prop 8 went wrong
NEW YORK — Sir Elton John, accompanied by his longtime partner David Furnish, had some choice words about California's Proposition 8, the ban on same-sex marriage that passed on Nov. 4.
In December 2005, John and Furnish tied the knot in a civil partnership ceremony in Windsor, England. But, clarified the singer, "We're not married. Let's get that right. We have a civil partnership. What is wrong with Proposition 8 is that they went for marriage. Marriage is going to put a lot of people off, the word marriage."
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"I don't want to be married. I'm very happy with a civil partnership. If gay people want to get married, or get together, they should have a civil partnership," said John. "The word marriage, I think, puts a lot of people off. You get the same equal rights that we do when we have a civil partnership. Heterosexual people get married. We can have civil partnerships."
more...
http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/2008-11-12-elton-john_N.htm
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